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#3001 blackjenner

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Posted 22 July 2014 - 05:17 PM

LOL

 

 

The stupid useless coachroof is vertical and ugly. It is too short to do any good. The sheer is all wrong. The hullshape sucks, the rigging is parts from old boats willy nilly prtobably thje whole thing designed around that old T-boom and jib club. Oh and that cockpiut is actually worse than Doug's toiletbowl cockpits on his perverted indian sex machine.

 

Coffee a little bitter this morning? :rolleyes:

LOL no, just that this is supposed to be the "COOL BOATS"  thread!  Not the piece of floating flotsam thread!  Haha!

 

I look at it this way. Someone built a boat. It has some interesting direction but the design and execution is flawed -- ugly even. That person is sailing their boat, maybe even smiling as they do so.  That's cool, even in an ugly boat.



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Posted 22 July 2014 - 05:30 PM

+1 :-)



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Posted 22 July 2014 - 05:36 PM

There is what appears to be a small rudder just ahead of the aft bracket on the trailer.


It wouldn't surprise me if that's one of two or even three.

Unlimiteds have one by the prop but the one that drags them into sharp turns is on the port sponson. I guess if they ever planned on turning to starboard, that sponson would have one too.

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Posted 22 July 2014 - 05:46 PM

 

 

I dunno, the bow is a little funky...and they hate the thought of staying onboard. I wonder if they wax the deck for extra thrills.
 
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I suspect someone was following the Sliver thread, but wears glasses like Mr. Magoo. Built a smaller replica. It has many of the details right- mostly white with a few wood accents, pointed at each end, classic opening ports. The fact that they are round on the replica and oval on Sliver proves my point . . . . just bad glasses.

Looks like Jay Bedford to me

 

 

It got me thinking about an Atkin design named Economy Jane. Pictures of one under construction: http://atkinboatplans.com/Photos/EconomyJane/index.html 

 

Clearly not the same. The EJ in the pictures is going to have a lot of lovely Atkin shape and detail, but that won't keep it from being a slow boat by any modern standard. Better to go with a Garden Eel.

 

The white boat looks to be built of some panel material and I wouldn't be surprised if it was aluminum. (The rounded stem doesn't look plywood-like.) Is that a dent in the bow, or just a reflection?

 

Hmm, didn't think it was aluminum but it might be. That would explain some of the crudeness of shape. It's not a yawl so I didn't think of comparing it to some of the classic canoe yawls (has Albert Strange already been mentioned in this thread?) The canoe yawl concept is a bit old fashioned. I've seen a couple Eels, only ever seen one sailing. It was tippy and cramped. There was an almost-finished one on Craigslist near us a while back.

 

 

Your minds eye is certainly better than the eye of whomever built that thing.

 

Goes to show just how important subtle variations are to the look of a boat.

 

Thanks, Fasty didn't seem to think so.

 

FB- Doug



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Posted 22 July 2014 - 05:50 PM

I liked Doug's sketch. The original is the boxy thing.



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Posted 22 July 2014 - 05:55 PM

LOL

 

 

The stupid useless coachroof is vertical and ugly. It is too short to do any good. The sheer is all wrong. The hullshape sucks, the rigging is parts from old boats willy nilly prtobably thje whole thing designed around that old T-boom and jib club. Oh and that cockpiut is actually worse than Doug's toiletbowl cockpits on his perverted indian sex machine.

 

Coffee a little bitter this morning? :rolleyes:

LOL no, just that this is supposed to be the "COOL BOATS"  thread!  Not the piece of floating flotsam thread!  Haha!

 

I look at it this way. Someone built a boat. It has some interesting direction but the design and execution is flawed -- ugly even. That person is sailing their boat, maybe even smiling as they do so.  That's cool, even in an ugly boat.

 

 

There are boats like that. The nice thing is that if you on it sailing, or even just sitting in the anchorage, you don't have to look at it!



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Posted 23 July 2014 - 02:51 PM

I'm with Fast on this one. It's not Benford. It's too original.



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Posted 23 July 2014 - 09:35 PM

I'm with Fast on this one. It's not Benford. It's too original.

Ouch!



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Posted 23 July 2014 - 09:42 PM

And now back to our regularly scheduled topic, Cool Boats!

 

Bootsbau-Glade-Sieben-Meter-Yacht-aus-Bu



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Posted 23 July 2014 - 09:45 PM

It's not wood, and it's not elegant, nor is it necessarily beautiful or unique but, it's cool because it's a sailboat, I don't think it's a wreck, and it's cheap.

 

http://seattle.craig...4582994417.html

 

 

 14 ft car top jetwind sailboat - $425 (Mercer island)

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condition: excellentsize / dimensions: 14ft

14ft 1976 Sears jetwind sailboat. 
excellent condition, used 5 times at the most been hanging up in my grandfather's garage.
it has all original parts, sail, rudder, tiller, oars, etc etc.



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Posted 23 July 2014 - 09:51 PM

And now back to our regularly scheduled topic, Cool Boats!

 

Bootsbau-Glade-Sieben-Meter-Yacht-aus-Bu

 

Wow. what is that, besides beautiful?



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Posted 23 July 2014 - 10:10 PM

And now back to our regularly scheduled topic, Cool Boats!

 

Bootsbau-Glade-Sieben-Meter-Yacht-aus-Bu

 

Wow. what is that, besides beautiful?

 

 

Here is a machine translation, as well as two links I found on this boat:

 

Drensteinfurt - boat Builder Mario Glade has built a seven-metre-long and 830-pound sailing yacht in his workshop in Büren. The prototype will be presented today to 30 September on the \"inter\"boat show in Friedrichshafen. Series production is planned. In the spring, the first sailors could test the boat.

Perfectionists, lovers and athletes - for all types of sailing fans is the new TS-23 yacht from the home of the \"shipbuilding\" Mario Glade a catcher. The new piece of jewelry that is issued from 22 to 30 September on the \"inter\"boat show in Friedrichshafen is seven meters long and 830 pounds.

In cooperation with Tobias Stüppardt from the company \"TS-Yacht GbR\", developed and built the first model, which he now presented to the public. \"We hope that we can sell the first copy to the boat show,\" Mario Glade wishes.

http://www.wn.de/Mue...acht-aus-Bueren

http://ts-yacht.de

 

Photo page from the builder

http://ts-yacht.de/t...m/slides/7.html



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Posted 23 July 2014 - 10:13 PM

I'm with Fast on this one. It's not Benford. It's too original.


The hull shape reminds me of one of these things

http://www.benford.u...ex.html?dories/

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Posted 23 July 2014 - 10:14 PM

My parents first boat was similar to this that was purchased out of the Sears Catalog in the 70s called the "Surfwind".  It had a lateen rig like a sunfish, but was snub nosed like a scow.   This is also the boat I learned on as a child.

 

 

Found this online:  229.jpg



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Posted 23 July 2014 - 10:16 PM

It's not wood, and it's not elegant, nor is it necessarily beautiful or unique but, it's cool because it's a sailboat, I don't think it's a wreck, and it's cheap.

 

http://seattle.craig...4582994417.html

 

 

 14 ft car top jetwind sailboat - $425 (Mercer island)

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00V0V_2Z4O39kCZXV_50x50c.jpg00q0q_9joOV1PghU3_50x50c.jpg01010_fadEiV76iJR_50x50c.jpg

condition: excellentsize / dimensions: 14ft

14ft 1976 Sears jetwind sailboat. 
excellent condition, used 5 times at the most been hanging up in my grandfather's garage.
it has all original parts, sail, rudder, tiller, oars, etc etc.

 

I can think of a couple of C words for it.

 

Campy.

 

Collectible.

 

But not really cool.



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Posted 23 July 2014 - 10:43 PM

While we're on double enders. After Sliver, (before sliver) here is the greatest of them all:

 

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Posted 23 July 2014 - 11:06 PM

/\/\/\  Beautiful!

 

…. a Swedish `D' Class below

 

 

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Posted 23 July 2014 - 11:33 PM

While we're on double enders. After Sliver, (before sliver) here is the greatest of them all:

 

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Nah. OK, if you want to sail on a bean pod, I guess.



/\/\/\  Beautiful!

 

…. a Swedish `D' Class below

Nice.



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Posted 24 July 2014 - 12:26 AM

And now back to our regularly scheduled topic, Cool Boats!

 

Bootsbau-Glade-Sieben-Meter-Yacht-aus-Bu

 

Wow - welcome back!



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Posted 24 July 2014 - 12:43 AM


And now back to our regularly scheduled topic, Cool Boats!
 
Bootsbau-Glade-Sieben-Meter-Yacht-aus-Bu

 
Wow. what is that, besides beautiful?
 
 
Here is a machine translation, as well as two links I found on this boat:
 
Drensteinfurt - boat Builder Mario Glade has built a seven-metre-long and 830-pound sailing yacht in his workshop in Büren. The prototype will be presented today to 30 September on the \"inter\"boat show in Friedrichshafen. Series production is planned. In the spring, the first sailors could test the boat.
Perfectionists, lovers and athletes - for all types of sailing fans is the new TS-23 yacht from the home of the \"shipbuilding\" Mario Glade a catcher. The new piece of jewelry that is issued from 22 to 30 September on the \"inter\"boat show in Friedrichshafen is seven meters long and 830 pounds.
In cooperation with Tobias Stüppardt from the company \"TS-Yacht GbR\", developed and built the first model, which he now presented to the public. \"We hope that we can sell the first copy to the boat show,\" Mario Glade wishes.http://www.wn.de/Mue...acht-aus-Buerenhttp://ts-yacht.de
 
Photo page from the builder
http://ts-yacht.de/t...m/slides/7.html

I was wondering why the tall cabin on such a powered up boat, then I got to the pic with a mountain of spinnaker in the hole. Turns out it has to be that tall or they'd have a pile of sail sticking out the top.

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 01:07 AM

While we're on double enders. After Sliver, (before sliver) here is the greatest of them all:

 

1093616_1.jpg

Nah. OK, if you want to sail on a bean pod, I guess.



>/\/\/\  Beautiful!

 

…. a Swedish `D' Class below

Nice.

 

 

Well you do live in the windiest city in the world. Perhaps not so suitable for Wellington's wind and waves. ;)



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Posted 24 July 2014 - 04:34 AM

 

While we're on double enders. After Sliver, (before sliver) here is the greatest of them all:

 

1093616_1.jpg

Nah. OK, if you want to sail on a bean pod, I guess.



>/\/\/\  Beautiful!

 

…. a Swedish `D' Class

below

Nice.

 

Well you do live in the windiest city in the world. Perhaps not so suitable for Wellington's wind and waves. ;)

 

Considering in that pic they're flogging that tiny excuse for a mains'l and there's hardly a whitecap in sight, I think you may be right.  :)



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Posted 24 July 2014 - 08:23 AM

That boat looks like the beginning of a sweet trimaran. Give it some training wheels and a big, square-top rig.



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Posted 24 July 2014 - 08:48 AM

 

 


And now back to our regularly scheduled topic, Cool Boats!
 
Bootsbau-Glade-Sieben-Meter-Yacht-aus-Bu

 
Wow. what is that, besides beautiful?
 
 
Here is a machine translation, as well as two links I found on this boat:
 
Drensteinfurt - boat Builder Mario Glade has built a seven-metre-long and 830-pound sailing yacht in his workshop in Büren. The prototype will be presented today to 30 September on the \"inter\"boat show in Friedrichshafen. Series production is planned. In the spring, the first sailors could test the boat.
Perfectionists, lovers and athletes - for all types of sailing fans is the new TS-23 yacht from the home of the \"shipbuilding\" Mario Glade a catcher. The new piece of jewelry that is issued from 22 to 30 September on the \"inter\"boat show in Friedrichshafen is seven meters long and 830 pounds.
In cooperation with Tobias Stüppardt from the company \"TS-Yacht GbR\", developed and built the first model, which he now presented to the public. \"We hope that we can sell the first copy to the boat show,\" Mario Glade wishes.http://www.wn.de/Mue...acht-aus-Buerenhttp://ts-yacht.de
 
Photo page from the builder
http://ts-yacht.de/t...m/slides/7.html

I was wondering why the tall cabin on such a powered up boat, then I got to the pic with a mountain of spinnaker in the hole. Turns out it has to be that tall or they'd have a pile of sail sticking out the top.

That's cool, but it's lost, this is cruising anarchy.

 

They trap off the damn thing too, see here.

 

http://ts-yacht.de/t...m/slides/5.html

 

Crazy hermans.



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Posted 24 July 2014 - 10:34 AM

If it had a lifting keel it would look like one of the many kiwi backyard built trailer sailers, although they rarely achieve any other than a 'functional' type of beauty. Still, looks like it would be fun, although a lidless anchor locker seems a bit pointless if there is no roller or cleating hardware on the bow



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Posted 24 July 2014 - 11:46 AM

If it had a lifting keel [...]

 

Looking through the datasheet it has one, 0.45 - 1.6 meter draft.

Without VAT, $75k ex boatyard. Trailer not included. Deleting stuff like teak and mahogany, the tarps, Dynema stays, carbon rig, Dracon instead of laminate sails drops the price down to $45k. 



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Posted 24 July 2014 - 11:53 AM

 

 


And now back to our regularly scheduled topic, Cool Boats!
 
Bootsbau-Glade-Sieben-Meter-Yacht-aus-Bu

 
Wow. what is that, besides beautiful?
 
 
Here is a machine translation, as well as two links I found on this boat:
 
Drensteinfurt - boat Builder Mario Glade has built a seven-metre-long and 830-pound sailing yacht in his workshop in Büren. The prototype will be presented today to 30 September on the \"inter\"boat show in Friedrichshafen. Series production is planned. In the spring, the first sailors could test the boat.
Perfectionists, lovers and athletes - for all types of sailing fans is the new TS-23 yacht from the home of the \"shipbuilding\" Mario Glade a catcher. The new piece of jewelry that is issued from 22 to 30 September on the \"inter\"boat show in Friedrichshafen is seven meters long and 830 pounds.
In cooperation with Tobias Stüppardt from the company \"TS-Yacht GbR\", developed and built the first model, which he now presented to the public. \"We hope that we can sell the first copy to the boat show,\" Mario Glade wishes.http://www.wn.de/Mue...acht-aus-Buerenhttp://ts-yacht.de
 
Photo page from the builder
http://ts-yacht.de/t...m/slides/7.html

I was wondering why the tall cabin on such a powered up boat, then I got to the pic with a mountain of spinnaker in the hole. Turns out it has to be that tall or they'd have a pile of sail sticking out the top.

 

Like this pic?

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 04:59 PM

What is that white DE, a giant 110? Never seen that before. I'm intrigued.



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Posted 24 July 2014 - 05:01 PM

What is that white DE, a giant 110? Never seen that before. I'm intrigued.

210 ?



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Posted 24 July 2014 - 05:28 PM

What is that white DE, a giant 110? Never seen that before. I'm intrigued.

210 ?

 

The 210 does not have plumb ends. 

 

Hunt Associates does have a 43' modernization of one of the bigger variants.

 

custom-43-01-photo01.jpg

 

http://www.huntdesig...ustom-43-01.htm



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Posted 24 July 2014 - 05:30 PM

What is that white DE, a giant 110? Never seen that before. I'm intrigued.

 

Google image search found the picture in a defunct Yachtworld listing, which says a lot more about the internet than about the boat.



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Posted 24 July 2014 - 05:49 PM

Here's an international 210.picinternational210101a.jpg



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Posted 24 July 2014 - 06:04 PM

Boy, one of those about 65' long would be quite something. ;)



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Posted 24 July 2014 - 06:28 PM

Boy, one of those about 65' long would be quite something. ;)

 

How about 62'?



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Posted 24 July 2014 - 10:43 PM

That's a 225 Bob.  Actually the precursor to the 110, but identical except just scaled larger.  The 210, while a nice boat, doesn't share the canoe body of the 110, and doesn't share the same speed potential.  The 225 in that picture used to be at the Museum of Yachting in Newport and was for sale years ago.  A friend of mine and I almost bought it... but it never came to pass.  The rig shown is a j24 rig, which I guess is approximately right, but not as designed obviously.  

What is that white DE, a giant 110? Never seen that before. I'm intrigued.



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Posted 31 July 2014 - 10:57 PM

Pretty

 

 

http://seattle.craig...4587470797.html

 

 

 15' wood sailboat

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condition: excellent size / dimensions: 15'

15' Norwegian Faering. Beautiful wood boat, great for rowing or sailing. Two rowing stations.Traditional design dating back to the Vikings. Includes trailer, custom oars, everything needed to sail, as well as a custom built mount for a small motor. Boat is built of yellow cedar, white oak, fir & red cedar. Copper rivets & bronze fasteners.
Great condition. Must see to appreciate. $3400. Obo



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Posted 31 July 2014 - 11:08 PM

Pretty

 

 

http://seattle.craig...4587470797.html

 

 

 15' wood sailboat

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condition: excellent size / dimensions: 15'

15' Norwegian Faering. Beautiful wood boat, great for rowing or sailing. Two rowing stations.Traditional design dating back to the Vikings. Includes trailer, custom oars, everything needed to sail, as well as a custom built mount for a small motor. Boat is built of yellow cedar, white oak, fir & red cedar. Copper rivets & bronze fasteners.
Great condition. Must see to appreciate. $3400. Obo

Beautifully traditional, thole pins and all.



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Posted 01 August 2014 - 12:23 AM

God that is so undervalued.  I built a 15 foot cedar on oak lapstrake sailboat in 1986 and it cost $10,000 and that was barely enough to cover the labor at $10 per hour.  That's the nature of boats though.



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Posted 01 August 2014 - 05:13 AM

That's gorgeous.



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Posted 01 August 2014 - 02:46 PM

Pretty

 

 

http://seattle.craig...4587470797.html

 

 

 15' wood sailboat

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condition: excellent size / dimensions: 15'

15' Norwegian Faering. Beautiful wood boat, great for rowing or sailing. Two rowing stations.Traditional design dating back to the Vikings. Includes trailer, custom oars, everything needed to sail, as well as a custom built mount for a small motor. Boat is built of yellow cedar, white oak, fir & red cedar. Copper rivets & bronze fasteners.
Great condition. Must see to appreciate. $3400. Obo

Beautifully traditional, thole pins and all.

 

That is a beautiful boat! I usually don't like double enders but if I lived close by, or even in that half of the country, I'd swing by and pick up that one. Except that I'd toss the "custom built mount for a small motor" out the window on my way home.

 

FB- Doug



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Posted 04 August 2014 - 12:25 PM

I guess most boats are nautically themed bars, this one just seems more honest about it.

 

It appears a fair amount of cool for $30k entry fee.

 

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#3042 Mr. Ed

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Posted 04 August 2014 - 02:49 PM

Would have been 40K before that hard dodger. Who thought that was a good idea? Doesn't it immediately condemn it to the amateur "who needs a designer" school of boat improvement. Maybe it's designed as a warning flag - "no matter how much crystal there is in the drinks cabinet, there's something profoundly wrong here"



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Posted 05 August 2014 - 10:12 AM

Needs to be switched to "not so Artful Dodger" thread



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Posted 05 August 2014 - 10:17 PM

Cut it off and give it to your local council as a bus shelter.



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Posted 06 August 2014 - 07:47 AM

Awesome Photos. Growing up in the 80s, as a teen I used to Sail on the Rendezvous out of pier 39 when the was owned by Fred Koopman . He also had a matching restaurant to the Rendezvous. Best experience ever for a teenager..  



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Posted 07 August 2014 - 05:08 PM

Julia Park Boat


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Posted 07 August 2014 - 08:44 PM

Yeah. That's cool. So what is it about double-enders?



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Posted 07 August 2014 - 10:05 PM

 

Yeah. That's cool. So what is it about double-enders?

 

They are the best!!



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Posted 07 August 2014 - 10:14 PM

 

 

Yeah. That's cool. So what is it about double-enders?

 

They are the best!!

 

What he said...



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Posted 07 August 2014 - 11:21 PM

 

 

Yeah. That's cool. So what is it about double-enders?

 

They are the best!!

:)



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Posted 08 August 2014 - 06:42 AM

 

 

Yeah. That's cool. So what is it about double-enders?

 

They are the best!!

The best what?



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Posted 10 August 2014 - 04:45 AM

A local fellow who has done some very interesting yacht designs anchored off my house today. He has a very cool dinghy (IMHO).

 

15x4 and fairly lightweight at just 100#. Goes very well with a single 3.3HP Mercury outboard.

 

Cat Dinghy.

 

His mothership is pretty interesting too!

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Posted 10 August 2014 - 05:19 AM

I'm just going to keep my mouth shut this time.



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Posted 10 August 2014 - 05:44 AM

You guys got a double-ender love fest goin' on.



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Posted 10 August 2014 - 06:51 AM

A local fellow who has done some very interesting yacht designs anchored off my house today. He has a very cool dinghy (IMHO).

 

15x4 and fairly lightweight at just 100#. Goes very well with a single 3.3HP Mercury outboard.

 

Cat Dinghy.

 

His mothership is pretty interesting too!

Cool dinghy design. Good stability and easily driven, but little carrying capacity by the looks.



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Posted 10 August 2014 - 09:17 AM

A local fellow who has done some very interesting yacht designs anchored off my house today. He has a very cool dinghy (IMHO).

 

15x4 and fairly lightweight at just 100#. Goes very well with a single 3.3HP Mercury outboard.

 

Cat Dinghy.

 

His mothership is pretty interesting too!

 


Reminds me of the Expandacraft boats.

 

https://www.facebook...s/Expandacraft/

 

This truck has a 12' catamaran in what passes for the "back seat," a 16' trimaran in the bed and a 16' catamaran on top. No trailer needed! Those are coolboats!

 

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Posted 10 August 2014 - 11:57 AM

Speaking of cool double enders, how about the Payne-Mortlock Sailing Canoes?

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Posted 10 August 2014 - 07:04 PM

Perfect! But rule driven and not what you would have for ultimate performance in that type of hull.



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Posted 10 August 2014 - 09:47 PM

You guys got a double-ender love fest goin' on.

 

For a myriad of reasons, one of which is they can lay happily with their aft end to the seas/swell and no one aboard would even notice. I had a 43' x 9' canoe stern boat that sat at the Gannon & Benjamin dock in Martha's Vineyard during a nor'easter and they said they'd never seen a boat behave so well with the seas on her stern. I just spent a night moored in Blakely Harbor on a C&C 38 with a reverse transom and once the current spun the stern to the swell I heard so much slapping I longed for my double ender.



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Posted 10 August 2014 - 10:00 PM

You guys got a double-ender love fest goin' on.

 

For a myriad of reasons, one of which is they can lay happily with their aft end to the seas/swell and no one aboard would even notice. I had a 43' x 9' canoe stern boat that sat at the Gannon & Benjamin dock in Martha's Vineyard during a nor'easter and they said they'd never seen a boat behave so well with the seas on her stern. I just spent a night moored in Blakely Harbor on a C&C 38 with a reverse transom and once the current spun the stern to the swell I heard so much slapping I longed for my double ender.

You were here and you didn't stop over and say "hi"??

 

BTW, That is why I have two buoys, bow and stern to keep her headed into the occasional swells.



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Posted 10 August 2014 - 10:37 PM

 

You guys got a double-ender love fest goin' on.

 

For a myriad of reasons, one of which is they can lay happily with their aft end to the seas/swell and no one aboard would even notice. I had a 43' x 9' canoe stern boat that sat at the Gannon & Benjamin dock in Martha's Vineyard during a nor'easter and they said they'd never seen a boat behave so well with the seas on her stern. I just spent a night moored in Blakely Harbor on a C&C 38 with a reverse transom and once the current spun the stern to the swell I heard so much slapping I longed for my double ender.

You were here and you didn't stop over and say "hi"??

 

BTW, That is why I have two buoys, bow and stern to keep her headed into the occasional swells.

 

I didn't see any lights on last night besides I had to listen to Paul's sea stories. This morning I had to get away quick because my rudder was bumping and there was still 2' of ebb to go. That beach is so steep that my 8' keel was fine it was the damn rudder that went aground.

 

You should tie Francis Lee up stern to the east just for the fun of it!



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Posted 11 August 2014 - 12:13 AM

 

 

You guys got a double-ender love fest goin' on.

 

For a myriad of reasons, one of which is they can lay happily with their aft end to the seas/swell and no one aboard would even notice. I had a 43' x 9' canoe stern boat that sat at the Gannon & Benjamin dock in Martha's Vineyard during a nor'easter and they said they'd never seen a boat behave so well with the seas on her stern. I just spent a night moored in Blakely Harbor on a C&C 38 with a reverse transom and once the current spun the stern to the swell I heard so much slapping I longed for my double ender.

You were here and you didn't stop over and say "hi"??

 

BTW, That is why I have two buoys, bow and stern to keep her headed into the occasional swells.

 

I didn't see any lights on last night besides I had to listen to Paul's sea stories. This morning I had to get away quick because my rudder was bumping and there was still 2' of ebb to go. That beach is so steep that my 8' keel was fine it was the damn rudder that went aground.

 

You should tie Francis Lee up stern to the east just for the fun of it!

Ah, that was you! I saw the quick exit and I figured it was a depth thing. It gets pretty shallow over there.



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Posted 11 August 2014 - 03:29 AM

You guys got a double-ender love fest goin' on.

 

 I just spent a night moored in Blakely Harbor on a C&C 38 with a reverse transom and once the current spun the stern to the swell I heard so much slapping I longed for my double ender.

 

So true.....



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Posted 11 August 2014 - 05:45 AM

A local fellow who has done some very interesting yacht designs anchored off my house today. He has a very cool dinghy (IMHO).
 
15x4 and fairly lightweight at just 100#. Goes very well with a single 3.3HP Mercury outboard.
 
Cat Dinghy.
 
His mothership is pretty interesting too!


I saw that boat couple years ago after Poulsbo had some wood boat thing. Kinda weird and good looking . I think. Maybe just weird.

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Posted 11 August 2014 - 02:25 PM

A local fellow who has done some very interesting yacht designs anchored off my house today. He has a very cool dinghy (IMHO).
 
15x4 and fairly lightweight at just 100#. Goes very well with a single 3.3HP Mercury outboard.
 
Cat Dinghy.
 
His mothership is pretty interesting too!


I saw that boat couple years ago after Poulsbo had some wood boat thing. Kinda weird and good looking . I think. Maybe just weird.

The mothership is definitely different, it is the dinghy I like. But I like power-cats.



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Posted 12 August 2014 - 11:17 PM

Phil Bolger designed a gaff cat-yawl about 19' long called the Chebacco. It was one of his most popular designs and many were built. There were versions for different constructions and with other mods. If you buy the plans package now, you may get as many as five variants. The style of the Chebacco owes a lot to the Cape Cod catboat, but the Chebacco is a light, unballasted boat. It has a good reputation for general handiness, and downwind speed.

 

There is also a 25' version. This is the boat I will have built for myself when someone gives me a winning lottery ticket. However, this version has not been popular. Two or maybe three have been or are being built. A builder, in OZ I think, has posted a couple pictures.

 

Chebacco 26
 
Chebacco 25

 

The builder made a few changes. I think the plans have a full-width (i.e flush deck-type) house as opposed to the more conventional house here. The published plans show a gaff main with a nearly vertical gaff while the pictures show a lug main.

 

I wonder about the profile of the stem. But all in all, it looks damn nice.



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Posted 13 August 2014 - 01:06 AM

That looks like an awful lot of boat for that much sail, but it's cool without being ugly. Not that common for a Bolger. ;)

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Posted 13 August 2014 - 03:33 AM

That looks like an awful lot of boat for that much sail, but it's cool without being ugly. Not that common for a Bolger. ;)

 

Bolger designed proper boats at Post (I think) way back in the day, before he became enamored with plywood's possibilities. Of course Hunt had already scoped out that general idea...

 

bUT i THINK THE bRDWATCHER IS BRILLIANT



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Posted 13 August 2014 - 10:15 AM

That looks like an awful lot of boat for that much sail, but it's cool without being ugly. Not that common for a Bolger. ;)

 

Bolger designed proper boats at Post (I think) way back in the day, before he became enamored with plywood's possibilities. Of course Hunt had already scoped out that general idea...

 

bUT i THINK THE bRDWATCHER IS BRILLIANT

 

I'm a huge Bolger fan and know he could and did draw beautiful boats. I like him more for his ugly ones.



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Posted 13 August 2014 - 02:31 PM

That looks like an awful lot of boat for that much sail, but it's cool without being ugly. Not that common for a Bolger. ;)

 

In his writeup in Boats With An Open Mind, Bolger wrote that the rig of the 25-er was the same as for the original boat, but the drawings show a somewhat bigger, higher peaked main. (PCB liked the Solent rig with vertical yard.) Obviously, an unballasted CB boat is not going to be able carry the same rig as a keel boat, plus it's not the sort of boat to have 5 hunks on the windward rail. I do wonder how the performance will compare to the 18 & 22 foot Marshal cats that rule the roost in Catboat Assn races.  My guess is slower upwind, faster downwind, especially in a breeze. Frustratingly, I don't see any reports of Chebaccos in the CBA race results.



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Posted 20 August 2014 - 05:10 PM

I debated which thread to put this in, but it's too well done to go in the Ugly Boat thread. It's a liveaboard, with transparent floor panels so you can look out the bottom. There is zero chance of the oars reaching the water.

 

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Posted 20 August 2014 - 05:14 PM

I dunno - looks like it made it to Tahiti. ;)

 

Shoulda gone in the Bizarre Boats thread.



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Posted 20 August 2014 - 05:18 PM

I dunno - looks like it made it to Tahiti. ;)

 

Shoulda gone in the Bizarre Boats thread.

 

That was my thought too



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Posted 20 August 2014 - 05:23 PM

Hawaii from the registration sticker on the blue skiff. The oars are a sweet touch. It would make a great "stabbin' cabin" parked over a nice piece of reef!



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Posted 20 August 2014 - 05:25 PM

I dunno - looks like it made it to Tahiti. ;)

 

Shoulda gone in the Bizarre Boats thread.

 

Posted!

 

http://forums.sailin...56925&p=4648254



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Posted 20 August 2014 - 05:30 PM

Hawaii from the registration sticker on the blue skiff. The oars are a sweet touch. It would make a great "stabbin' cabin" parked over a nice piece of reef!

 

Hawaii it is, Kaneohe Bay.



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Posted 20 August 2014 - 05:59 PM

Does it ballast down so that the oars can touch the water?

Hawaii from the registration sticker on the blue skiff. The oars are a sweet touch. It would make a great "stabbin' cabin" parked over a nice piece of reef!



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Posted 20 August 2014 - 06:09 PM

Ha, Ish, I was going to same thing!  I recognize those mountains in the background.  

 

My guess is the thing submerges, so you can see out the side windows underwater.  The the oars might reach the water.  



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Posted 20 August 2014 - 06:22 PM

Ha, Ish, I was going to same thing!  I recognize those mountains in the background.  

 

My guess is the thing submerges, so you can see out the side windows underwater.  The the oars might reach the water.  

 

It never occurred to me that it would be semi-submersible. That scares me just being on top of the water.



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Posted 20 August 2014 - 08:20 PM

I thought it was a sub.



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Posted 20 August 2014 - 10:51 PM

The windows, the way they are recessed and angled, is interesting.



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Posted 21 August 2014 - 03:27 AM

We all live in a yellow somthing-rine
With oars and transparent floors
That sails really poor

Everybody now!

We all live...

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Posted 21 August 2014 - 10:32 AM

I think this is the first time I have actually liked a smile on a bow.






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