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#301 couchsurfer

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Posted 12 November 2013 - 04:34 PM

Maybe I'm outa touch, but can we really believe that LOYAL/Speedyboat has reached 49kts?  I suggest not.

 

Here's the claim here:  http://www.perpetual.com.au/LOYAL.aspx

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.......the claims make sense when you read their whole blurb! :)

 

.....................looks like quite a line-up for this round

 

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 "As we prepare for our first training sessions as a team in the next few days, it would be remiss of me not to think carefully about the things that made our team so great when we won in 2011. Ultimately, it was the teamwork that resulted in a narrow margin win to one of the world’s greatest racing teams, Wild Oats. Respectful of our competitors, but fervently determined to emulate that same level of success, we will be working very hard on all aspects that make Perpetual LOYAL Racing team so unique and so spirited.,,with our trash-talk experts working overtime!!! Game on for 2013 and beyond!"

 



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Posted 12 November 2013 - 08:34 PM

 

Oooh look, they said it again about coverage of the start:

 

The start of the Rolex Sydney Hobart Yacht Race will be broadcast live on the Seven Network throughout Australia, webcast live to a global audience on Yahoo!7 and the Australia Network throughout the Asia Pacific Region.

http://www.rolexsydn...-sydney-hobart/

 

I wonder if they mean it this time?

They've said something about streaming the start for two years now, but all I could ever find was a short raw video and a bunch of repetitive 7 clips, not live.  You too?

I watched live start on yahoo!7 two years ago here in europe.

 

Had to proxy last year to see it but otherwise its been on the Y7 page live for a couple years now. 



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Posted 13 November 2013 - 07:21 AM

Anyone seen the C60 'Ichi-ban' yet? Was suppose to have arrived on Monday?



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Posted 13 November 2013 - 12:02 PM

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Posted 13 November 2013 - 12:46 PM

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How fucking sexy is that?

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Posted 13 November 2013 - 02:14 PM

pretty fucking sexy.



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Posted 13 November 2013 - 03:05 PM

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Posted 13 November 2013 - 07:52 PM

Don't forget the new Beau Geste, a completely purpose built Botin 80 ocean racer campaigned by Karl Kwok and skippered by Gavinn Brady. Actually think they will beat Wild Thing and Lahana. The new Ichi Bahn Carkeek 60 worth watching as well.


Lahana still not entered so will be Beau Geste v Wild thing and zefiro.

Be interesting to see Giacomo v Ichi Ban and Beau Geste v Giacomo if it blows

 

Lahana is not going at all!!



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Posted 13 November 2013 - 08:02 PM

there is also a wing mast, similar in size to an orma's, hanging from the wall above oats. its been there for months now and is plain white.

 

That is off team australia



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Posted 13 November 2013 - 09:01 PM

Very short keel on the Carkeek...

 

Lahana on the market, http://www.farryacht...hite-100-lahana



#311 angles

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Posted 13 November 2013 - 09:16 PM

Varuna has arrived in Sydney.

http://varunaracing.com/



#312 Alysum

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Posted 14 November 2013 - 01:31 AM

Lahana on the market, http://www.farryacht...hite-100-lahana

 

That's one of the most detailed inventory listings I've ever seen :o  Big price drop from $1m a few months ago... Shame it's not racing this year.



#313 Leka

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Posted 14 November 2013 - 02:04 AM

Lahana on the market, http://www.farryacht...hite-100-lahana

 

That's one of the most detailed inventory listings I've ever seen :o  Big price drop from $1m a few months ago... Shame it's not racing this year.

I would just like to buy the container and tools, but couldn't even afford that atm................



#314 DtM

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Posted 14 November 2013 - 02:32 AM

It is the ongoing running costs that kill you not the original purchase price



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Posted 14 November 2013 - 03:37 AM

In for my first sydney-hobart and first visit down under!

Archambault 40 'One for the Road'

The Anarchy will run strong, I'll chat with the Ed and try to bring some schwag to hand out and hopefully some on-board commentary during the race.

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Posted 14 November 2013 - 04:21 AM

Someone told me that the Sydney to Hobart has the best mainstream media coverage of any race in the world... is this true?  :lol:

 

If Formula 1 was covered the same way that Channel 7 covers the Sydney to Hobart, then live coverage would end after the first lap and the commentators would be completely befuddled by pit stops because they would be unable to comprehend that the car in front might not actually be winning the race.

 

The start is well covered from a spectacle point of view, but coverage of the actual sailing aspects of the race or of anything but line honours is pretty pathetic.  Even the web tracker is designed to drive people away screaming!



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Posted 14 November 2013 - 06:28 AM

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mmm? is that a cultural thing ?

 

aussies are good at making a spectacle of themselves



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Posted 14 November 2013 - 06:44 AM

In for my first sydney-hobart and first visit down under!

Archambault 40 'One for the Road'

The Anarchy will run strong, I'll chat with the Ed and try to bring some schwag to hand out and hopefully some on-board commentary during the race.

 

Better start boosting your alcohol intake.

In keeping with the boats name, KGB and the boys don't mind a few quiet ones.



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Posted 15 November 2013 - 09:23 AM

Hey guys, where do u think the best place to watch the solas big boat challenge would be?
Thanks
Rob

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Posted 15 November 2013 - 01:56 PM

Middle head , Bradleys,  Nielson Park ?



#321 umpire

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Posted 15 November 2013 - 03:17 PM

If you look at the courses on the CYCA site Macquarie point looks good

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Posted 17 November 2013 - 02:40 AM

Has anyone heard what happen to WO?



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Posted 17 November 2013 - 03:09 AM

Has anyone heard what happen to WO?

maybe



#324 Merrill Levi

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Posted 17 November 2013 - 07:40 AM

WOXI went for a sail on Friday before the heavens collapsed into Sydney, all crew at the W/Pier before sundown, Mothy said there was a few dramas but nothing major.



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Posted 17 November 2013 - 07:45 AM

Has anyone heard what happen to WO?

maybe

tell!



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Posted 17 November 2013 - 09:27 AM

That was the first sail with the new rig wasn't it?



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Posted 17 November 2013 - 02:41 PM

You mean the foil main?



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Posted 17 November 2013 - 09:34 PM

Hey guys, where do u think the best place to watch the solas big boat challenge would be?
Thanks
Rob

I will be on the Start Boat for the Southern Line. You get a good view from there.



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Posted 17 November 2013 - 09:50 PM

WOXI has been out before with this rig I think, but only briefly.

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Posted 17 November 2013 - 11:55 PM

Best place to view the Big Boat race is on one of the boats, CYCA auction off rides on most of the boats.



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Posted 18 November 2013 - 12:02 AM

What's this year's official name for the race?

 

- The Wild Oats Show Powered By Rolex

- The Rolex Race To Nowhere Featuring Wild Oats

- 19 Guys Pushing on Wild Oats' Buttons Brought to You by Rolex.

- The Second Greatest Sailing Prize Money Can Buy.

- My Rig is Bigger Than Yours.

- Craving for the America's Cup.



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Posted 18 November 2013 - 06:14 AM

If you look at the courses on the CYCA site Macquarie point looks good

 
I think we call that "Mrs Maquaries Chair"
 
its a hell of a chair built by convict labour  poms out of rocks, good for the start/finish



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Posted 18 November 2013 - 08:18 AM

Best line up in years I reckon!

 

 If it is 10-15 knots as predicated.

 

1st   Oats

2nd  Loyal

3rd   Rags ( maybe only two or three hours behind Loyal )

 

Then who? These guys below will have some close racing.

Wild thing

Zefiro

Beau Geste

Ichi Ban

Giacomo

Black Jack

Southern Excellence

Brindabella

VO60
Swan 82

 

+ loads of boats between 40-55 feet, can't wait!



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Posted 18 November 2013 - 08:46 AM

What's this year's official name for the race?
 
- The Wild Oats Show Powered By Rolex
- The Rolex Race To Nowhere Featuring Wild Oats
- 19 Guys Pushing on Wild Oats' Buttons Brought to You by Rolex.
- The Second Greatest Sailing Prize Money Can Buy.
- My Rig is Bigger Than Yours.
- Craving for the America's Cup.

- how to get beaten by a boat 40 foot shorter

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Posted 18 November 2013 - 08:55 AM

You mean the foil main?

more info please….  :huh:



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Posted 18 November 2013 - 09:10 AM

Brindabella?!

 

Last I heard she was running aground on a nudist beach!!



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Posted 18 November 2013 - 10:46 AM

So did Oats lose the rig this morning or did it just compress around the gooseneck? A few unsubstantiated rumours heard today. 



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Posted 18 November 2013 - 11:59 AM

So did Oats lose the rig this morning or did it just compress around the gooseneck? A few unsubstantiated rumours heard today. 

$ouch$



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Posted 18 November 2013 - 12:28 PM

So did Oats lose the rig this morning or did it just compress around the gooseneck? A few unsubstantiated rumours heard today. 


Better now than when chasing Loyal

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Posted 18 November 2013 - 01:14 PM

I certainly wouldn't want to be the person who fucked up Bobs boat for the biggest media opportunity of the year, ouch!

So Wild Thing for L/H :-)

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Posted 18 November 2013 - 03:21 PM

They have other rigs lying around don't they?

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Posted 18 November 2013 - 07:41 PM


So did Oats lose the rig this morning or did it just compress around the gooseneck? A few unsubstantiated rumours heard today. 

Better now than when chasing Loyal

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Posted 18 November 2013 - 09:40 PM

I certainly wouldn't want to be the person who fucked up Bobs boat for the biggest media opportunity of the year, ouch!

So Wild Thing for L/H :-)


No chance.  I was offshore Saturday off Sydney and saw the sunfish just outside the heads already waiting for Wharro



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Posted 18 November 2013 - 10:02 PM

Any more on WOXI's rig?

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Posted 18 November 2013 - 10:44 PM

Let's hope Oats is ok all I want is the show down between Loyal (Speedboat) and Oats, if it doesn't happen this time it never will. Who said Wild Thing, kidding aren't you, they will be doing well to stay ahead of the new Beau Geste. The Oats vs Loyal showdown is starting to reach fever pitch, the early punters all reckon Oats will be too good but Loyal is gaining momentum as the more powerful boat in the right conditions, can't wait to see what the Line Honours Odds are..



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Posted 18 November 2013 - 11:36 PM

WT was a joke bud.



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Posted 18 November 2013 - 11:45 PM

Has anyone heard what happen to WO?

 

 

C'mon SJB, spill!



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Posted 18 November 2013 - 11:57 PM

Sorry Scanas didn't realise you were joking. LOL, the others will fall over and WT will win just to prove us wrong. In all seriousness if it's at all rough WT usually breaks something and retires but for the sake of seeing how they all perform let's hope they all make it a great race.



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Posted 18 November 2013 - 11:57 PM

If you were into professional gambling you'd get some money on Loyal now before Joe punter gets involved and then just before the start put enough down on Oats to cover the original bet. Loyal's odds will only get shorter as we get closer and Oat's odds longer.

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Posted 19 November 2013 - 12:51 AM

was down at Woolich this morning - boat is up on the hard with keel etc attached

 

mast is back in the shed with a tent set-up over the gooseneck region - faint wafts of epoxy in the air



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Posted 19 November 2013 - 12:57 AM

Confirm. I saw Ricko Saturday night, he said they had some "issues" in the gooseneck area. Southern's flew a team in Sunday night to fix it. And no I won't elaborate on the "issues". Until someone else does first!



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Posted 19 November 2013 - 07:07 AM

No official Hobart betting opened yet and with 6 weeks to go Oats will make the necessary repairs I would have thought..  However Chinese whispers have known to tip Punters..! LOL

 

If you were into professional gambling you'd get some money on Loyal now before Joe punter gets involved and then just before the start put enough down on Oats to cover the original bet. Loyal's odds will only get shorter as we get closer and Oat's odds longer.



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Posted 19 November 2013 - 08:29 AM

Gotta say Ricko didn't seem too worried.



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Posted 19 November 2013 - 09:27 AM


So did Oats lose the rig this morning or did it just compress around the gooseneck? A few unsubstantiated rumours heard today.

Better now than when chasing Loyal


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Better when chasing Loyal, than when leading Loyal

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Posted 19 November 2013 - 09:32 AM

WOXI has been out before with this rig I think, but only briefly.

 Yeah for a tune up sail only. That was their first proper full crew session with the new rig.



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Posted 19 November 2013 - 09:38 AM

maybe a good poker face?

If it was underengineered in that area, or pushing he limits, you'd want good data that the rest of spar is not the same.

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Posted 19 November 2013 - 10:15 AM

I hope the bookies are watching this to formulate there odds



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Posted 19 November 2013 - 10:42 AM

Sorry Scanas didn't realise you were joking. LOL, the others will fall over and WT will win just to prove us wrong. In all seriousness if it's at all rough WT usually breaks something and retires but for the sake of seeing how they all perform let's hope they all make it a great race.


X2 forget all the negative stuff, be good to see WT get all their ducks in a row and have a great race

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Posted 19 November 2013 - 11:02 AM

Would be great to see them all have a great race, then we can finally settle who the better boat is.

This would have to be the best super maxi showdown ever. Shame ICAP and the old Alfa couldn't join the show.

Cheers

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Posted 19 November 2013 - 11:56 AM

I don't think its that big a deal guys.

put it this way - the mast is in ONE piece - its not the Wild Thing  two piece mast saga from a couple of years back - I didn't see any duct tape or tubes of 5minute epoxy.

its more likely a bit of fine tuning and modification….

Not sure what they paid for it but its an awesome looking bit of gear



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Posted 19 November 2013 - 12:12 PM

Would be great to see them all have a great race, then we can finally settle who the better boat is.
This would have to be the best super maxi showdown ever. Shame ICAP and the old Alfa couldn't join the show.
Cheers
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Bloody oath! THAT would be a great race and settle the score. Still got 5 100 footers and
3 80 footers on the line, could be some carnage!

Assuming the clipper fleet is on the 2nd Start line? Anyone know?

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Posted 19 November 2013 - 01:25 PM

Have to be close to 2M for a TPT super high modulus rig of that size wouldn't it?



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Posted 19 November 2013 - 06:36 PM


Have to be close to 2M for a TPT super high modulus rig of that size wouldn't it?


You mean what Bob would probably dig out if he stuck his hand down the back seat of his car and had a bit of a root around?

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Posted 19 November 2013 - 07:46 PM

Who are the five 100 footers ?

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Posted 19 November 2013 - 07:51 PM

Zefiro, Oats, Loyal, Rags, Wild thing.
But one of these things is not like the others.

#366 LDH

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Posted 19 November 2013 - 09:34 PM

In for my first sydney-hobart and first visit down under!

Archambault 40 'One for the Road'

The Anarchy will run strong, I'll chat with the Ed and try to bring some schwag to hand out and hopefully some on-board commentary during the race.

 

Better start boosting your alcohol intake.

In keeping with the boats name, KGB and the boys don't mind a few quiet ones.

KGB and the boy - and the girl :D She doesnt mind a few quiet ones either I happen to know.



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Posted 19 November 2013 - 10:23 PM

 

In for my first sydney-hobart and first visit down under!

Archambault 40 'One for the Road'

The Anarchy will run strong, I'll chat with the Ed and try to bring some schwag to hand out and hopefully some on-board commentary during the race.

 

Better start boosting your alcohol intake.

In keeping with the boats name, KGB and the boys don't mind a few quiet ones.

KGB and the boy - and the girl :D She doesnt mind a few quiet ones either I happen to know.

And she can sorta sail.  Where'd she learn that from I wonder?



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Posted 19 November 2013 - 10:32 PM

Zefiro, Oats, Loyal, Rags, Wild thing.
But one of these things is not like the others.

 

Zerifro is a FARR 100 cruiser / racer



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Posted 19 November 2013 - 10:39 PM

Zefiro, Oats, Loyal, Rags, Wild thing.
But one of these things is not like the others.

 

Zerifro is a FARR 100 cruiser / racer

Nope, Wild Thing is the only boat that gets attacked by Sunfish



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Posted 19 November 2013 - 11:55 PM

Dick

 

may be true, but 'large sea creatures' excuses do not only belong to Wild Thing.

 

the year WOxi was trailing Wharro into Bass Strait she was attacked and keel-carried a Shark !

 

That being the reason given for Wild Thing not being behind, this preceded Oats being turboed up considerably before the next years race (well annual WO press releases/publicity) , they were well aware that their year to year Hobart line honours gig was far from a sure thing.  

 

fairs fair    



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Posted 20 November 2013 - 12:06 AM

Zefiro, Oats, Loyal, Rags, Wild thing.
But one of these things is not like the others.

 

Zerifro is a FARR 100 cruiser / racer

.

and Zefiro has two more International chefs in the general ( not nec. race) crew than the others !  



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Posted 21 November 2013 - 12:31 AM

Yes Gybeset I remember that although Wharro claimed it was bullshit and more to do with their water ballast arrangement at the time.



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Posted 21 November 2013 - 12:53 AM

Dick

 

may be true, but 'large sea creatures' excuses do not only belong to Wild Thing.

 

the year WOxi was trailing Wharro into Bass Strait she was attacked and keel-carried a Shark !

 

That being the reason given for Wild Thing not being behind, this preceded Oats being turboed up considerably before the next years race (well annual WO press releases/publicity) , they were well aware that their year to year Hobart line honours gig was far from a sure thing.  

 

fairs fair    

You clearly have American tendencies mon empereur



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Posted 21 November 2013 - 08:11 PM

Oh, and the Loyal web site has an image that implies that the sprit is included in the 100' measurement...

 

perpetual_loyal_infographic.png

 

I assume that is an error?

 

Year built: 2008*



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Posted 23 November 2013 - 10:24 PM

top speed 49 knots?

 

Oh, and the Loyal web site has an image that implies that the sprit is included in the 100' measurement...

 

perpetual_loyal_infographic.png

 

I assume that is an error?

 

Year built: 2008*



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Posted 23 November 2013 - 10:50 PM

Yes and with the mods they have done they expect to hit 50 Knots..! What hope has Wild Oats got..? The statement of 49 Knots has been discussed in the Speedboat thread, nobody believes it, the Volvo 70's hit 40 Knots for a moment but that's it. As for 49 Knots if they believe that they witnessed a GPS malfunction imo.

 

 

top speed 49 knots?

 

Oh, and the Loyal web site has an image that implies that the sprit is included in the 100' measurement...

 

perpetual_loyal_infographic.png

 

I assume that is an error?

Year built: 2008*



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Posted 25 November 2013 - 01:59 AM

 

 

In for my first sydney-hobart and first visit down under!

Archambault 40 'One for the Road'

The Anarchy will run strong, I'll chat with the Ed and try to bring some schwag to hand out and hopefully some on-board commentary during the race.

 

Better start boosting your alcohol intake.

In keeping with the boats name, KGB and the boys don't mind a few quiet ones.

KGB and the boy - and the girl :D She doesnt mind a few quiet ones either I happen to know.

And she can sorta sail.  Where'd she learn that from I wonder?

Suspect she probably gets the odd useful tip here and there! :)



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Posted 26 November 2013 - 12:23 AM

WO rig sorted?

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Posted 26 November 2013 - 12:50 AM

A news article - guess which boat it talks about

http://foxsports.com...l-1226768523354

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Posted 26 November 2013 - 01:23 AM

 

 

 

In for my first sydney-hobart and first visit down under!

Archambault 40 'One for the Road'

The Anarchy will run strong, I'll chat with the Ed and try to bring some schwag to hand out and hopefully some on-board commentary during the race.

 

Better start boosting your alcohol intake.

In keeping with the boats name, KGB and the boys don't mind a few quiet ones.

KGB and the boy - and the girl :D She doesnt mind a few quiet ones either I happen to know.

And she can sorta sail.  Where'd she learn that from I wonder?

Suspect she probably gets the odd useful tip here and there!  :)

Hopefully more than the tip...



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Posted 26 November 2013 - 01:27 AM

WO rig sorted?

It looks more serious that it looks, mast is completely disassembled and placed under a temporary structure inside the shed. Southern Spars HazMats boys working on it full time with heat guns etc...



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Posted 26 November 2013 - 02:28 AM

Semi related, but how do bookies set their odds for an event that they don't normally cover such as S2H?  Do they have a research team that will study recent form and incidents such as WOXI's mast?



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Posted 26 November 2013 - 03:10 AM


WO rig sorted?

It looks more serious that it looks, mast is completely disassembled and placed under a temporary structure inside the shed. Southern Spars HazMats boys working on it full time with heat guns etc...
That doesn't sound too good at all. Realise the still a bit of time but will they have confidence in it?

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Posted 26 November 2013 - 03:29 AM

Semi related, but how do bookies set their odds for an event that they don't normally cover such as S2H?  Do they have a research team that will study recent form and incidents such as WOXI's mast?

Based on results from last year  :D



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Posted 26 November 2013 - 04:28 AM

^
They ask Rob Mundle

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Posted 26 November 2013 - 04:38 AM

As for the odds the betting authorities have their contacts and then they apply a buffer factor on their field analysis. The interesting one will no doubt be Loyal. Oats will start favourite and will be in good shape or they will withdraw if there are issues with the Rig, I don't see that happening. Oats is a well oiled machine and will make the start line, money is no object. Loyal's odds will change with the weather forecasts rightly or wrongly. A big sled ride would really throw the bookies, this Hobart is shaping to be the one that could restore a broader following and some interest for line honours, lets hope it does just that.



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Posted 26 November 2013 - 05:25 AM

As for the odds the betting authorities have their contacts and then they apply a buffer factor on their field analysis. The interesting one will no doubt be Loyal. Oats will start favourite and will be in good shape or they will withdraw if there are issues with the Rig, I don't see that happening. Oats is a well oiled machine and will make the start line, money is no object. Loyal's odds will change with the weather forecasts rightly or wrongly. A big sled ride would really throw the bookies, this Hobart is shaping to be the one that could restore a broader following and some interest for line honours, lets hope it does just that.

I'm sure WOXI can fall back to their previous rig if needs be.



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Posted 26 November 2013 - 05:51 AM

My impression is that the bookies base their odds mostly on the bets, rather than any analysis.  They are in the business of taking bets, not making bets, so they make sure that the losers are going to pay in more than the winners are going to take out.



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Posted 26 November 2013 - 06:42 AM

Yes true too but you have to some understanding of the boats potential to win line honours to establish the odds. But yes in terms of the Hobart you are correct. Line Honours usually starts with Oats as favourite and they work their way back, but weather conditions could have the punters jumping on Loyal. Will be interesting to see how it pans out this time around.

My impression is that the bookies base their odds mostly on the bets, rather than any analysis.  They are in the business of taking bets, not making bets, so they make sure that the losers are going to pay in more than the winners are going to take out.



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Posted 26 November 2013 - 07:15 AM

What's Wild Thing Paying? :-)

Seriously though its starting to look good for Loyal with oats shenanigans with the mast :-(

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Posted 26 November 2013 - 07:55 AM

No odds out yet, I reckon Wild Thing would be $8 upwards, Ragamuffin $5, Oats and Loyal sharing favouritism or to be determined by the punters preferences. Nearly impossible for Wild Thing to win for a few reasons:

 

1. They can't rely on the top 3 boats to break, they usually break something first, history will verify that.

2. They have 3 faster boats ahead of them that they need to beat over the line.

3. Their best chance is rather how Loyal beat Oats, have the top 3 boats bunched up close and parked and they sail around them (They need to be within striking distance to do this)

4. The leading boats are getting faster every year, WT is also now faster but not at the rate the others have progressed and is the oldest boat now in terms of design.

5. My theory and I know Wharro, he'll take a punt on a strategy or course that is different to the others and hope that they are wrong and he is right.

6. I have left Beau Geste out of the equation but if my hunch if correct they'll beat WT over the line.



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Posted 26 November 2013 - 08:44 AM

Top 4

Loyal

WOX1

Rags

Beau Geste

 

That would be worth putting $10 on



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Posted 26 November 2013 - 09:37 AM

No odds out yet, I reckon Wild Thing would be $8 upwards, Ragamuffin $5, Oats and Loyal sharing favouritism or to be determined by the punters preferences. Nearly impossible for Wild Thing to win for a few reasons:

 

1. They can't rely on the top 3 boats to break, they usually break something first, history will verify that.

2. They have 3 faster boats ahead of them that they need to beat over the line.

3. Their best chance is rather how Loyal beat Oats, have the top 3 boats bunched up close and parked and they sail around them (They need to be within striking distance to do this)

4. The leading boats are getting faster every year, WT is also now faster but not at the rate the others have progressed and is the oldest boat now in terms of design.

5. My theory and I know Wharro, he'll take a punt on a strategy or course that is different to the others and hope that they are wrong and he is right.

6. I have left Beau Geste out of the equation but if my hunch if correct they'll beat WT over the line.

saving my bets till the morning of the race..... too early to discount a bradbury



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Posted 26 November 2013 - 01:04 PM

Just Joking about WT line honours mate. :-)

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Posted 26 November 2013 - 03:01 PM

The new Ichi Ban is a nice looking boat 



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Posted 26 November 2013 - 05:05 PM

Can't see any grinding pedestals

 

60ft powerboat? Now I am little bit disappointed :(



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Posted 26 November 2013 - 09:44 PM

The fucking over of australian offshore racing continues then.

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Posted 26 November 2013 - 09:47 PM

On a really sad note I see only three tasmanian entries and two are charters so one private race entry from hobart.
Long term this is not so good.

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Posted 26 November 2013 - 09:55 PM

Hydraulic winches and 18 crew.  Time to start re-reading the Joke thread guys, you're going to be spending a lot of time sitting on the rail doing nothing.



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Posted 26 November 2013 - 10:27 PM

Can someone do the research into bookies?  Particularly those that offer a free first $25 bet or something.  We'd make a good syndicate eh!






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