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Fitting a grinder pedestal into an existing cockpit sole.


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#1 Somtam Cowboy

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 03:17 AM

RP 45 under gunned in the Primary department.

How hard is it to install a pedestal once the boats put together...?

Expensive and messy l'm sure.....

 



#2 pickles

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 07:01 AM

Well that depends on what's under the deck in between the 2 primary's and what winches your running but ill tell you no matter what it's not cheap!

#3 Schnick

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 04:48 PM

Seen it done on a few boats.  The real question is how tidy you want it.  If you want the whole drive assy below the sole level then it will depend a lot on the structure of the boat.  If you don't mind having the drive shafts above deck and just punching through the cockpit sides, I don't think it's that big a deal.  See the 1D48, which always had an above-deck pedestal.  SC52's have had similar install done. 

 

What does your cockpit look like?



#4 Left Hook

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 05:19 PM

Aquila RP45 looks like this in the cockpit:

 

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and this under deck:

 

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 05:31 PM

I think a pedestal where the driveshafts pierce the cockpit walls right where your rope bags are would probably work good.  The driveshafts wouldn't totally ruin the quarterberths that way.  May want to stiffen the floor a bit before you put two gorillas on the pedestal I suppose. 



#6 BalticBandit

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 06:47 PM

Why not just go to a bigger winch and a slightly longer handle? 



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Posted 12 June 2013 - 06:52 PM

BB I'd guess they are looking for some more pace bringing the A-sym around the front.  Although I'm not 100% on how you put an OD into the pedestal if it has the above deck drive.



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Posted 12 June 2013 - 07:13 PM

Pedestal driven hoists are also pretty amazing...



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Posted 13 June 2013 - 02:44 AM

This is how an overdrive is fitted to a pedestal with above deck shafts, overdrive is within the pedestal itself:

 

http://tradeonly.har...pedestal-lr.pdf



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Posted 13 June 2013 - 03:01 AM

Why not just go to a bigger winch and a slightly longer handle? 

 

BB I'd guess they are looking for some more pace bringing the A-sym around the front.  Although I'm not 100% on how you put an OD into the pedestal if it has the above deck drive.

The Bigger winches will probably happen before the Pedestal in the end...

Still a bit of work as they're recessed into the coaming.

Ideally the wish list would add getting rid of the seats as well.

Really uncomfortable grinding in the last few inches.

That's the only issue with this boat.

Otherwise she's a sweet ride.... B)



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Posted 13 June 2013 - 03:12 AM

Very sweet ride. There's a lot of freeboard and headroom in those berths though so it shouldn't really be an issue to put everything under the deck and maintain whatever leftover maneuverability you have in the cockpit. Tell anyone sleeping down there to HTFU and keep their hair away from the linkages. 



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Posted 13 June 2013 - 03:20 AM

How about a pair of powered winches?  Much neater and tidier and more than worth the IRC hit.



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Posted 13 June 2013 - 04:41 AM

Now there's the winner.....

My back's happier already...

I'll call the boss right now thanx..... :D



#14 pickles

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 10:31 AM

A lot cheaper too!

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Posted 14 June 2013 - 03:10 AM

Seriously now..

Not too keen on having to power those winches all race....
The boat was designed originally with a pedestal.

Builders wanted to keep prices down.

Just gotta have fit handle winders....

I'll go back to being galley bitch :unsure:



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Posted 14 June 2013 - 09:51 AM

Those winches are Tiny...

 

At Minimum you should have these...

 

 

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Posted 15 June 2013 - 03:06 PM

Pedestal driven hoists are also pretty amazing...

 

 

Amazing?



#18 Left Hook

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Posted 17 June 2013 - 04:18 AM

Amazing.

 






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