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#1 LDH

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Posted 11 July 2013 - 01:56 AM

Less than 3 weeks out and no thread yet?

 

Skiffe?? Jug on IRC?

 

Looks like a few new(ish)/newly aquired boats towards the bigger end of the fleet.

 

 



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Posted 12 July 2013 - 01:57 AM

Will be good to see the new Black Jack in action, windy conditions like 2012 would suit them.



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Posted 12 July 2013 - 02:36 AM

That's the VO70, right?  Well, the turbo VO70...



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Posted 12 July 2013 - 03:50 AM

Ex-Telefonica from the last go 'round: http://goldcoast.cyc...013/black-jack/

 

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Posted 12 July 2013 - 08:43 AM

I dunno, it could just be sour titties cause I'm not going... but without Loki, and with only 2x TP52's and one Sydney 38... the entry list looks a bit "meh" to me? Hopefully the entry list fills out a bit in the next week.



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Posted 12 July 2013 - 08:58 AM

Your right It is only because your not going!!!!!! :o



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Posted 12 July 2013 - 10:44 PM

Where did the old Black Jack go?

 

And what was involved in the Turbo'ing of the new one, revised keel? and more?



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Posted 13 July 2013 - 07:00 AM

That's the VO70, right?  Well, the turbo VO70...

 

 

Yep, they have made some changes, stripping out heavy unnecessary stuff from the round the world, a few system changes and the re-branding of course.

 

Will be interesting to see improvements over the old boat, the 66 wasn't a slouch, still a canting keel pure race machine. Peter might just hang onto that in case the 70 doesn't work out. He already has Black Jack Too which is a canting keel RP44 for twilight beer can racing...

 

As for the other boats in this race, the TP52s are gone I guess as they are inshore boats now, and Sydney 38s can enter historic racing soon... not many lead in classes to ocean racing.



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Posted 13 July 2013 - 09:07 AM

The black jack too is a rp42 with a lifting keel

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Posted 13 July 2013 - 10:59 AM

Looking good,

 

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Posted 13 July 2013 - 02:03 PM

Black Jack RP was the first non maxi home in last years Hobart. Two spots ahead of the nearest VO70. I guess a newer Juan K VO70 must be a bit if an improvement over the RP and the older Jones VO70???

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Posted 13 July 2013 - 09:22 PM

Your right It is only because your not going!!!!!! :o



Well, with Bad Dolly for sale, Secret Men's and Ragamuffin overseas, Calm gearing up their new boat, no sign of Cougar, SwD, Duende, Equinox or Exile...

Yep, it's all about me!

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Posted 13 July 2013 - 10:27 PM

more '36's than '38's :)



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Posted 15 July 2013 - 07:44 AM

Maybe it's time for some new destinations...



#15 Bill E Goat

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Posted 15 July 2013 - 11:30 AM

At least the Flights are still less than the Cab fare $79



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Posted 16 July 2013 - 08:03 AM

Didn't know Wild Oats was doing the race, had heard she was undertaking some mods for the Hobart.? At least we have 2 x 100"s , 1 x 90 and 2 x V70's in the race. Anyone know if Oats is undergoing the mods or already has prior to the Hobart.?



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Posted 16 July 2013 - 09:17 AM

Didn't know Wild Oats was doing the race, had heard she was undertaking some mods for the Hobart.? At least we have 2 x 100"s , 1 x 90 and 2 x V70's in the race. Anyone know if Oats is undergoing the mods or already has prior to the Hobart.?

Oats is in the shed now, prod off with work being done on the forward centreboard and near the exits of the twin boards from what i could see a couple days ago.



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Posted 16 July 2013 - 10:35 AM

WOXI mods are nearly done from what i hear - she'll race the Syd - GC and Hammo

 

just when you thought Bob had done it all they find another way to step it up a gear or two.

 

horizontal foils my friends !!



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Posted 16 July 2013 - 10:52 AM

WOXI mods are nearly done from what i hear - she'll race the Syd - GC and Hammo

 

just when you thought Bob had done it all they find another way to step it up a gear or two.

 

horizontal foils my friends !!

I thought so, i saw the cutouts for them awhile back, but wasn't sure.



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Posted 16 July 2013 - 11:11 AM

Your right It is only because your not going!!!!!! :o



Well, with Bad Dolly for sale, Secret Men's and Ragamuffin overseas, Calm gearing up their new boat, no sign of Cougar, SwD, Duende, Equinox or Exile...

Yep, it's all about me!

Or me  :wacko:

Who is on for a bet ?



#21 Jason AUS

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Posted 16 July 2013 - 11:25 AM

Didn't know Wild Oats was doing the race, had heard she was undertaking some mods for the Hobart.? At least we have 2 x 100"s , 1 x 90 and 2 x V70's in the race. Anyone know if Oats is undergoing the mods or already has prior to the Hobart.?


You mean 3x 100's and 0x 90's? Oats, Wild Thing and Lahana are all max raters.

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Posted 16 July 2013 - 12:54 PM

WOXI mods are nearly done from what i hear - she'll race the Syd - GC and Hammo

 

just when you thought Bob had done it all they find another way to step it up a gear or two.

 

horizontal foils my friends !!

I thought so, i saw the cutouts for them awhile back, but wasn't sure.

those cut outs might have been for the dagger boards - the horizontal foils are in addition to those.

they will help keep it upright together with the keel - this means less weight in the bulb and more sail area :rolleyes:

she's like a swiss army knife that floats

can't wait to see it in action tho



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Posted 16 July 2013 - 01:29 PM

The problem with swiss army knives is you always end up cutting yourself with the knife while opening the cork screwed.

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Posted 16 July 2013 - 07:27 PM

WOXI mods are nearly done from what i hear - she'll race the Syd - GC and Hammo

 

just when you thought Bob had done it all they find another way to step it up a gear or two.

 

horizontal foils my friends !!

 

 

I trust that the Oats guys have been in full contact with the DSS guys through out this modification

 

Hate to see a law suite getting in the way of foiling!



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Posted 16 July 2013 - 09:57 PM

rule book - is there a rule book.. :unsure:

 

like all the other years it's a bit 'he said she said' but we know somethings going on inside the 'shed'

 

can't wait to see what they come up with once the curtains are drawn - we'll wait and see but foils are the next step for WOXI surely - everything else has been done



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Posted 17 July 2013 - 02:02 AM

 

WOXI mods are nearly done from what i hear - she'll race the Syd - GC and Hammo

 

just when you thought Bob had done it all they find another way to step it up a gear or two.

 

horizontal foils my friends !!

I thought so, i saw the cutouts for them awhile back, but wasn't sure.

those cut outs might have been for the dagger boards - the horizontal foils are in addition to those.

they will help keep it upright together with the keel - this means less weight in the bulb and more sail area :rolleyes:

she's like a swiss army knife that floats

can't wait to see it in action tho

Sounding more and more like Mr Kite as time goes on...

 

Mex



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Posted 17 July 2013 - 03:54 AM

Hi Jason, I thought Lahana was a 90 foot boat..? I had Wild Thing and Oats as 100's and Lahana as a 90', with "FEET" being the operative word.

 

 

Didn't know Wild Oats was doing the race, had heard she was undertaking some mods for the Hobart.? At least we have 2 x 100"s , 1 x 90 and 2 x V70's in the race. Anyone know if Oats is undergoing the mods or already has prior to the Hobart.?


You mean 3x 100's and 0x 90's? Oats, Wild Thing and Lahana are all max raters.


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Posted 17 July 2013 - 10:12 AM

Well, Lahana is listed on the Bakewell White website as being 30 metres / 98 feet... but I figure that when you're dealing in that scale it's a drop in the ocean (bad pun intended). Add a sprit and you're out to 110 foot or so.

 

And all the for sale listings have her as being the full 100 feet long.

 

The old Nicorette/Tokolosh/Audi Super Sailing/Super Sled/Ludde Ingvall's bus is actually 90 feet long.

 

 

Hi Jason, I thought Lahana was a 90 foot boat..? I had Wild Thing and Oats as 100's and Lahana as a 90', with "FEET" being the operative word.

 

 

 

Didn't know Wild Oats was doing the race, had heard she was undertaking some mods for the Hobart.? At least we have 2 x 100"s , 1 x 90 and 2 x V70's in the race. Anyone know if Oats is undergoing the mods or already has prior to the Hobart.?


You mean 3x 100's and 0x 90's? Oats, Wild Thing and Lahana are all max raters.


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Posted 18 July 2013 - 06:00 AM

 

WOXI mods are nearly done from what i hear - she'll race the Syd - GC and Hammo

 

just when you thought Bob had done it all they find another way to step it up a gear or two.

 

horizontal foils my friends !!

I thought so, i saw the cutouts for them awhile back, but wasn't sure.

those cut outs might have been for the dagger boards - the horizontal foils are in addition to those.

they will help keep it upright together with the keel - this means less weight in the bulb and more sail area :rolleyes:

she's like a swiss army knife that floats

can't wait to see it in action tho

So canting keel still or fixed now ?



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Posted 18 July 2013 - 06:40 AM

 

 

WOXI mods are nearly done from what i hear - she'll race the Syd - GC and Hammo

 

just when you thought Bob had done it all they find another way to step it up a gear or two.

 

horizontal foils my friends !!

I thought so, i saw the cutouts for them awhile back, but wasn't sure.

those cut outs might have been for the dagger boards - the horizontal foils are in addition to those.

they will help keep it upright together with the keel - this means less weight in the bulb and more sail area :rolleyes:

she's like a swiss army knife that floats

can't wait to see it in action tho

So canting keel still or fixed now ?

Still canting, just another board that slides out the side



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Posted 22 July 2013 - 10:52 AM

Looks like a shit race - nothing for the start then northerlies for the rest.

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Posted 22 July 2013 - 10:20 PM

Looks like a shit race - nothing for the start then northerlies for the rest.

 

3.5 days on the DK43!

 

Sloooow.

 

I might revise the idea of not taking beer.



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Posted 23 July 2013 - 01:56 AM

Looks like a shit race - nothing for the start then northerlies for the rest.

So you think I might need to take some extra days off from work early next week? Though I figure they can always log onto the tracker and find me?  :P



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Posted 24 July 2013 - 01:39 AM

Anyone know when the division splits will be posted?



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Posted 24 July 2013 - 02:36 AM

Splits are usually given at the briefing, 1800 Thursday.



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Posted 24 July 2013 - 05:12 AM

Thanks!

Splits are usually given at the briefing, 1800 Thursday.



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Posted 24 July 2013 - 10:14 AM

Whats the goss on the rumour of WO pulling out?



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Posted 24 July 2013 - 10:50 AM

They arent on the entry list anymore. They must not be ready with the new mods on. Last sunday they wernt looking all that ready when i saw it.



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Posted 24 July 2013 - 11:37 AM

They arent on the entry list anymore. They must not be ready with the new mods on. Last sunday they wernt looking all that ready when i saw it.

 

Like sitting in the shed, no keel, no mast, no one working on the boat.

 

Don't like the forecast - all those northerlies. Bugger :(



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Posted 25 July 2013 - 11:23 AM

They arent on the entry list anymore. They must not be ready with the new mods on. Last sunday they wernt looking all that ready when i saw it.

 

Like sitting in the shed, no keel, no mast, no one working on the boat.

 

Don't like the forecast - all those northerlies. Bugger :(

Glad I am not going, see you on the water Sat mate :-)



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Posted 26 July 2013 - 02:47 AM

Awwhhh just saw the latest forecast...

 

I missed last years Southport race and now I'm locked in this year there's light winds and northerly's.. Guess it's better than working!



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Posted 26 July 2013 - 02:58 AM

I will be on the MHYC Start Boat as normal with a camera when I have time.



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Posted 26 July 2013 - 03:02 AM

I will be on the MHYC Start Boat as normal with a camera when I have time.

Me too and Philc as a Me too too I guess.



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Posted 26 July 2013 - 03:17 AM

According to Seabreezedotcomdotau - it's looking really light... from their site just now 1315 (FRI) - go figure. 

 

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Posted 26 July 2013 - 03:49 AM

According to Seabreezedotcomdotau - it's looking really light... from their site just now 1315 (FRI) - go figure. 

 

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Its been like this since 7am! They are having one.



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Posted 26 July 2013 - 11:45 PM

Whats the goss on the rumour of WO pulling out?

New mast not ready ??



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Posted 27 July 2013 - 04:06 AM

Saw the weather forecast, and will come up later. ;)  :lol:  :lol:



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Posted 27 July 2013 - 08:39 AM

Photos from today.



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Posted 27 July 2013 - 09:09 AM

Photos from today.

 

Good pics thanks, I really like this race but not that dissapointed I'm not in it this year...

 

Top boats are doing 7-8kts, we would be doing 2-3.... :(



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Posted 27 July 2013 - 09:11 AM

Thanks. I got video too but I'll edit that tomorrow.

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Posted 28 July 2013 - 07:18 AM

Lahana catching Wild Thing, not sure if it's pressure or a problem on board. Seems to be a substantial speed difference.?



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Posted 28 July 2013 - 08:37 AM

LDH is on fire so far. Go girlfriend

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Posted 28 July 2013 - 09:49 AM

Midnight Rambler taken a flyer out to the east... Not her conditions I guess so an all or nothing shot?

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Posted 28 July 2013 - 10:33 AM

Off crowdy head and finally some breeze
Sloooow race so far
Looks like an early flight Wed

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Posted 28 July 2013 - 07:56 PM

Midnight, Rambler taken a flyer out to the east... Not her conditions I guess so an all or nothing shot?

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a remarkable LTO

 

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well thats the end of the div2 OCL2 / MidRamb / Chutzpah battle ! 

 

OCL2 is north of SW Rocks, Chutz is RET at sea



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Posted 28 July 2013 - 08:44 PM

Lahana catching Wild Thing, not sure if it's pressure or a problem on board. Seems to be a substantial speed difference.?

lahana and black jack have caught them i guess there  is a story 



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Posted 29 July 2013 - 02:13 AM

Lahana catching Wild Thing, not sure if it's pressure or a problem on board. Seems to be a substantial speed difference.?

lahana and black jack have caught them i guess there  is a story 

Bloody Sunfish!



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Posted 29 July 2013 - 02:54 AM

Great performance by the Banshee , first 40 footer in standings. Looks like Wild Thing is a little of a slow thing, Midnight Rambler and Chutzpah retired, breakages or pissed off with the lack of wind?

 

Only 15 miles to go, Wild Thing further out to sea not sure if Lahana is really in the lead according to the tracker but it should be over in an hour or 2.



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Posted 29 July 2013 - 06:12 AM


LDH is on fire so far. Go girlfriend


Thanks Lydia! It's a slow one, hoping for that southerly...

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Posted 29 July 2013 - 12:34 PM

That was one long ocean race!

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Posted 29 July 2013 - 02:18 PM

Yeah, well done, but you were only out there for just over 2 days...
What about all the small boats still hanging in there.
And why has 12% of the fleet quit, because of "time constraints", its a fucken offshore race subject to the vageries of
the weather.
It will be interesting to see how many of the fleet end up quitting due to "time constraints".

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Posted 30 July 2013 - 12:03 AM

That was one long ocean race!

Why is WT so slow. Seems to battle to stay in front of 66 footers and now a 70 in its worst conditions and a 2006 vintage fixed keeler with no tricks. Good that its sailing though.



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Posted 30 July 2013 - 12:36 AM

That was one long ocean race!

Why is WT so slow. Seems to battle to stay in front of 66 footers and now a 70 in its worst conditions and a 2006 vintage fixed keeler with no tricks. Good that its sailing though.

Maybe a bit harsh, it is a what 03 model boat vs a near new volvo 70 running on substantially different budgets with a amaetuer crew vs a half pro one

I doubt that Lahana's fixed keel would have been much of a penalty in this race, doubt the canters wouldn't have been in full stability mode for much of it

It put nearly 40miles on them in the first night before they ran out of breeze, the other caught up and then they put 20 on them before it happened again so certainly has some legs on them when in the same breeze. 

i bet their goal was to be first there and they did that, so good on them.



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Posted 30 July 2013 - 04:28 AM

 

That was one long ocean race!

Why is WT so slow. Seems to battle to stay in front of 66 footers and now a 70 in its worst conditions and a 2006 vintage fixed keeler with no tricks. Good that its sailing though.

Maybe a bit harsh, it is a what 03 model boat vs a near new volvo 70 running on substantially different budgets with a amaetuer crew vs a half pro one

I doubt that Lahana's fixed keel would have been much of a penalty in this race, doubt the canters wouldn't have been in full stability mode for much of it

It put nearly 40miles on them in the first night before they ran out of breeze, the other caught up and then they put 20 on them before it happened again so certainly has some legs on them when in the same breeze. 

i bet their goal was to be first there and they did that, so good on them.

I bet their goal was to get the cy to ok their paperwork and they did that



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Posted 30 July 2013 - 05:45 AM

Shorty is havin a good year,transpacs,southports.....good on him.



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Posted 30 July 2013 - 07:03 AM

 

That was one long ocean race!

Why is WT so slow. Seems to battle to stay in front of 66 footers and now a 70 in its worst conditions and a 2006 vintage fixed keeler with no tricks. Good that its sailing though.

Maybe a bit harsh, it is a what 03 model boat vs a near new volvo 70 running on substantially different budgets with a amaetuer crew vs a half pro one

I doubt that Lahana's fixed keel would have been much of a penalty in this race, doubt the canters wouldn't have been in full stability mode for much of it

It put nearly 40miles on them in the first night before they ran out of breeze, the other caught up and then they put 20 on them before it happened again so certainly has some legs on them when in the same breeze. 

i bet their goal was to be first there and they did that, so good on them.

Mmmm dont think so chief. Updated Southern Rig, C6 carbon rigging, 6.8m keel, new hardware, new sails, last half of the hull brand new etc. Not exactly 03 vintage. This was mostly all done late last year.  Canting keels offer less weight for the same RM. Does this not make a boat faster in light air...... What about the last two gladstone race results.....there is a theme running here...... I was just asking the question not trying to bag them as such. I guess when they line up with WO, Rags and Speedboat it will become clearer. Till then it just looks like struggle street to beat the mini maxi's and an out of date conventional 100'er.



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Posted 30 July 2013 - 08:18 AM

A bit of video.



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Posted 30 July 2013 - 02:03 PM

Those of you ragging on WT... looks from that video like they lack a light air runner. Perhaps that had something to do with the closeness.



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Posted 30 July 2013 - 07:33 PM

I'm thinking these guys are going to win

 

https://www.youtube....h?v=Ibx_xgnVuwA



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Posted 30 July 2013 - 10:41 PM

I'm thinking these guys are going to win

 

https://www.youtube....h?v=Ibx_xgnVuwA

Your about 9 years late on that.....funny story behind how that came about....blame some parochial sailors from RMYC in Sydney south.

 

kept bragging amongst those with power boats,and Gunther is a dedicated man of the ocean,,nuff said



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Posted 30 July 2013 - 11:25 PM

I'm thinking these guys are going to win

 

https://www.youtube....h?v=Ibx_xgnVuwA

Your about 9 years late on that.....funny story behind how that came about....blame some parochial sailors from RMYC in Sydney south.

 

kept bragging amongst those with power boats,and Gunther is a dedicated man of the ocean,,nuff said

There is money in Abalone

 

And yes Shorty and Peircey are getting some miles in.



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Posted 31 July 2013 - 01:28 AM

 

I'm thinking these guys are going to win

 

https://www.youtube....h?v=Ibx_xgnVuwA

Your about 9 years late on that.....funny story behind how that came about....blame some parochial sailors from RMYC in Sydney south.

 

kept bragging amongst those with power boats,and Gunther is a dedicated man of the ocean,,nuff said

There is money in Abalone

 

And yes Shorty and Peircey are getting some miles in.

I before E except after p  lmao......good sailing Youall



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Posted 31 July 2013 - 02:44 AM

Mel, thanks for the Photos and Video

 

Did a first on this race, took all the sails done for an hour because of TOTAL lack of breeze off Ballina.  :wacko:

 

At least we arrived in time for the flight home, but not much time for the usual piss up.

 

Oh well, will have to make up for that at Hammo. (Go the All Blacks  :) on the 17th)



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Posted 31 July 2013 - 04:42 AM

No worries at all!  This time I had plenty of opportunity to take photos and video....

 

Glad you made the flight back!  Did you have enough food?  you did start early...



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Posted 31 July 2013 - 08:05 AM

 

 

I'm thinking these guys are going to win

 

https://www.youtube....h?v=Ibx_xgnVuwA

Your about 9 years late on that.....funny story behind how that came about....blame some parochial sailors from RMYC in Sydney south.

 

kept bragging amongst those with power boats,and Gunther is a dedicated man of the ocean,,nuff said

There is money in Abalone

 

And yes Shorty and Peircey are getting some miles in.

I before E except after p  lmao......good sailing Youall

OOOPS

Reminds me of school ...arrr so long ago

BTW..The word 'Youall' comes up with a spellchecky red liney...

That is all, talk soon.



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Posted 05 August 2013 - 02:04 AM

well that sucked



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