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#1 Editor

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 03:31 AM

The first question is what is "it"? The second is what is it?

 

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#2 CyberBOB

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 03:33 AM

Australia II

#3 fastyacht

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 03:36 AM

It's a canting keel, and someone finally figured out that you might as well attach the fucking daggerboards to the damn thing.



#4 Vogel515

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 03:37 AM

ALL IN

 

https://www.facebook...12971307&type=1

 

Canting, lifting, rotating, side flaps



#5 Southern Cross

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 03:40 AM

Oh God! I hope it's not some variant of DSS Foils!

#6 Kiwi xtreme

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 03:43 AM

Slow



#7 Glenn

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 03:45 AM

Slow



#8 mustang__1

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 03:57 AM

a UWUMV



#9 kiwichas

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 04:34 AM

a drag



#10 DJL

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 05:22 AM

First answer - Red Bull
Second answer - "All In"

#11 Vee

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 05:24 AM

Slow



#12 jc172528

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 05:43 AM

Early April fools.



#13 Tunnel Rat

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 05:57 AM

ALL IN

 

https://www.facebook...12971307&type=1

 

Canting, lifting, rotating, side flaps

On the face book page they say it is a chanting keel - Gregorian or Gallician Chant?



#14 Philen

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 07:18 AM

A Predator drone fixed to a canting keel?



#15 floating dutchman

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 07:52 AM

It's a canting keel, and someone finally figured out that you might as well attach the fucking daggerboards to the damn thing.

 

It does seem like a simple solution to a complex problem,  I'll be interested to see if it actually works in the real world.



#16 can

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 07:57 AM

something designed by Schikler&Tagliapietra?



#17 Autograph

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 08:17 AM

Why

#18 Teaky

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 08:24 AM

Great idea.  Would take a lot of learning to get it to perform.  Or leaning eh!



#19 form_follows_function

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 08:35 AM

Canting Cabin Bladerider



#20 flojo

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 08:56 AM

All wrong, it's ... it's ... it's ... it's

 

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CLEAN, the submarine drone !

I love Facebook ;-)



#21 greasy al

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 10:28 AM

..,going to be replaced after the first trials?

Treading the fine line between genius and stupidity can be a risky business.

#22 Kevlar Edge

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 10:32 AM

anti-whale torpedo, sonar scans for whales in the boats path, auto launch no more whale worries. 



#23 SCANAS

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 10:44 AM

Sacrificial I hope!

#24 Sol Rosenberg

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 10:44 AM

Who wants to know?   :ph34r:



#25 SCANAS

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 10:46 AM

Sacrificial I hope!

#26 floating dutchman

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 10:47 AM

All wrong, it's ... it's ... it's ... it's

 

attachicon.gifclean.jpg

 

CLEAN, the submarine drone !

I love Facebook ;-)

 

 

Oh, maybe I should have said,  Complex solution to a simple problem.



#27 Puntone

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 10:56 AM

I think it's wrong



#28 dacapo

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 11:05 AM

ALL IN

 

https://www.facebook...12971307&type=1

 

Canting, lifting, rotating, side flaps

On the face book page they say it is a chanting keel - Gregorian or Gallician Chant?

Shaolin



#29 oomummado

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 11:39 AM

 

ALL IN

 

https://www.facebook...12971307&type=1

 

Canting, lifting, rotating, side flaps

On the face book page they say it is a chanting keel - Gregorian or Gallician Chant?

Shaolin

Andy Dovell modified Sydney 36 for Ian Murray's wife.



#30 Ryley

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 12:01 PM

It's a canting keel, and someone finally figured out that you might as well attach the fucking daggerboards to the damn thing.

 

It does seem like a simple solution to a complex problem,  I'll be interested to see if it actually works in the real world.

take a look at the pictures on FB and tell me what's simple about a keel with more moving parts than the steering system on your car. Based on recent AC "results," I'm sure there's nothing here that could possibly fail. catastrophically. at all.



#31 malaclemys

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 12:32 PM

Charlie Foxtrot - over



#32 Murphness

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 12:43 PM

The first question is what is "it"? The second is what is it?

 

 

ALL IN

 

https://www.facebook...12971307&type=1

 

Canting, lifting, rotating, side flaps

 

 

Does he win a Shaw 650?



#33 thebucko

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 12:43 PM

BULB FLAPS.... first invented in the early 70's for heavy displacement racing yachts.The flaps were connected to an early version of a personal computer (this is also why they were "heavy displacement racing yachts")as this personal computer was said to be upwards of 1256kg!.. It's job was to make very fast calculations (up to 1 every other second!) and adjust the "bulb flaps" to he new correct angle of attack.Then assuming you are still reading ...i don't know.



#34 Tack nazi

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 12:55 PM

Scallop dredge



#35 Vogel515

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 01:01 PM

If you're going to send me a shaw 650, please ship it fast so I can use it for PHRF NE's and possibly get rejected by some yacht clubs on the East Coast.



#36 Doug Lord

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 01:04 PM

I think Dovell did a couple of other boats using the wings for lateral resistance when the keel was canted. 10-15 years ago? Brilliant then and brilliant now if it eliminates one or two daggerboards.

 

 

 

ALL IN

 

https://www.facebook...12971307&type=1

 

Canting, lifting, rotating, side flaps

On the face book page they say it is a chanting keel - Gregorian or Gallician Chant?

Shaolin

Andy Dovell modified Sydney 36 for Ian Murray's wife.



#37 trimfast

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 01:07 PM

It is the next DonnyBROKE



#38 Gunny

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 01:16 PM

That's the Ronco all-in-one lobster trap hauler and whale filleting tool.  A must for every boat. But wait there's more, order now and get a free can of Hair-In-A-Can.



#39 Ed-Curacao

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 01:37 PM

it is too much drag downwind



#40 fastyacht

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 01:38 PM

LOL this boat thinks it is a catamaran and sails all downwind legs "hot"...



#41 MSA

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 01:46 PM

Adjustable wings, Counter rotating bulb, Canting Keel with a lifting fin mechanism..

 

What could possibly go wrong.... Seems good on paper, right?

 

Or is it just a joke to Mock all the recent Wild Oats mods/turning it into a swiss army knife?



#42 Trickypig

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 02:24 PM

It's a foiling keelboat.

 

... well if you can get a Laser to foil?



#43 sumpin

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 02:57 PM

AC 35



#44 r.finn

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 03:03 PM

Drag Queen: a monohull that wants to be a multihull, but can't be and is less effective. Drag Queen.  

 

 (apply to all canting keel boats.)



#45 baygrass

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 03:15 PM

prototype of a AC90!



#46 Diarmuid

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 03:30 PM

Kelp combine harvester.



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Posted 21 August 2013 - 03:37 PM

San Diego boat,  they run this around the race course prior to race  to remove kelp above 10' ....  



#48 peterp1

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 03:56 PM

who says its a keel, its a new racing prop!



#49 fidd

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 04:21 PM

A Predator drone fixed to a canting keel?

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#50 Inter 20

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 04:36 PM

It's the new foiling J105.



#51 mudhead76

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 05:07 PM

It is a the newest family of CIA underwater drones. 



#52 J24Soup

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 05:11 PM

It's the new foiling J105.

 

They checked off all the options from J-Boats. 



#53 Vogel515

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 06:54 PM

Any chance of getting an SA burgee as shwag? 



#54 STYACHT

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 10:07 PM

So, yes this keel system comes from ST. No, not DSS (which is patented).  No, not a multi, nor a foiling boat, so all you clever folk writing "slow", everything is relative.  Relative for example to being able to re-right at sea (unassisted).  No, "All In" is not anywhere close to a name that will get you some swag.  Never heard that once!

 

I'd say there is still some unfinished business here...



#55 getwetsailing

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 11:06 PM

It looks like foilage to me!



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Posted 22 August 2013 - 01:36 AM

Any chance of getting an SA burgee as shwag? 

 

Given up on the hope of the Shaw 650?



#57 Mirage67

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Posted 22 August 2013 - 02:45 AM

Hmm!

Kuka Light vs Shaw 12 might be an interesting race



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Posted 22 August 2013 - 07:24 AM

I think Dovell did a couple of other boats using the wings for lateral resistance when the keel was canted. 10-15 years ago? Brilliant then and brilliant now if it eliminates one or two daggerboards.

 

Andy Dovell modified Sydney 36 for Ian Murray's wife.

 

 

it is too much drag downwind

Pretty much says it all



#59 STYACHT

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Posted 22 August 2013 - 08:59 AM

Hmm!

Kuka Light vs Shaw 12 might be an interesting race

More than a bit OT, but yes.  It depends if the Shaw 12 is really the 3.6 tonnes here or the 4.15 tonnes here.  I think it will be a long time before we see these two line up.



#60 basildog

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Posted 22 August 2013 - 10:00 AM

Something that Douggie Lord had a hand in designing



#61 Antonio

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Posted 22 August 2013 - 12:06 PM

A canting keel combined with a canting bulb. They will probably need a flight engineer.

#62 auscat

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Posted 22 August 2013 - 09:42 PM

anti-whale torpedo, sonar scans for whales in the boats path, auto launch no more whale worries.

If it works for sunfish too I'm sure Wharro will have one fitted for Hobart

#63 McGyver

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Posted 22 August 2013 - 09:51 PM

If we remove the wings and the canting mechanism we should end up with a decent keel...



#64 rigguy

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Posted 23 August 2013 - 02:05 AM

Someone is gonna try to 'clean up' on the plastic in central Pacific.
I'm following this guy to Hawai'i.

#65 Kenny Dumas

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Posted 24 August 2013 - 06:29 AM

Should be interesting to see the downwind polars and mode changes from fully canted with both boards cranked for max leeway vs keel raised to minimize drag and the wings corkscrewed for max righting moment. Just get creative about keeping kelp clear. A keel cam?

#66 evenflow

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Posted 24 August 2013 - 12:22 PM

Cool... rather see how the controls work on the boat.  As for Sock Puppet and other Shaw 650s... we'll rate it at TORE...