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#1 icupusa

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 06:14 AM

Bruno in his own words 

 

http://acworldseries...-own-words.html



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Posted 27 August 2013 - 06:32 AM

Intresting stuff Bruno is always going to side with his challenger.

If and that is a big IF ETNZ take the cup you can see a big round table meeting where Grant will invite all potential teams to meet with Bruno and thrash it out get everything on the table and work this out together.

Team funding caps, Universal parts, Nationality rule, Free bases in Auckland, etc



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Posted 27 August 2013 - 06:57 AM

Intresting stuff Bruno is always going to side with his challenger.

If and that is a big IF ETNZ take the cup you can see a big round table meeting where Grant will invite all potential teams to meet with Bruno and thrash it out get everything on the table and work this out together.

Team funding caps, Universal parts, Nationality rule, Free bases in Auckland, etc

Funding caps would be unworkable because:

 

- Some teams (esp ETNZ) get shit for free.

- Some teams (once again esp ETNZ) have MUCH lower costs due to a number of factors

- Good luck accounting for all the money

 

Much better restricting the number of boats and simplifying the class rule.

Although no longer viable, the IACC was actually pretty good from this point of view.



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Posted 27 August 2013 - 07:17 AM

Agree with boat restriction remember all those IACC boats IIMoro and NZ had in 1992.



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Posted 27 August 2013 - 07:22 AM

Materials restrictions may also help especially the really expensive stuff.



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Posted 27 August 2013 - 01:35 PM

good point jasper
really hard to monitor expenditures

what do you do with the big $$ to team members like RC?
the owners will find a way to pay them from other entities, etc.

i laugh at the $$ cap because it is just natural for everyone to try and outsource the competition
that is what has happended historically....it went escalating from amateu to pros
because if you did not, then you would not be competitive

then there are some that are the exception to the rule and figures things out smarter not more $$$
but $$$ will always rule up there

then, there is TIME
and that you can't buy
ask Oracle and Artemis

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 01:37 PM

i think if ETNZ wins the biggest factor will be the year
that will probably be the key to keep things affordable
so if they take too long to set up another disney world for sailors, then they will increase everyone's budget
this will be a hard decision for sure

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 01:45 PM

what a romantic Bruno is...total class act.
i did notice that he was sidelined at the trophy presentation...i wonder why?
that was his baby? his show?
he ended up joining everyone at the end but he was NOT front and center.

i had heard that the parent company of LV has said no more after this one....but hey, his words...there might be a chance for more LVCups.

you can also see that he is sad about how much acrimony is there....that is a big change.

excellent short interview

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 02:11 PM

you can also see that he is sad about how much acrimony is there....that is a big change.

In the middle of AC33, there was discussion of the "AC community" and I observed the teams seemed more like warring tribes. A certain Krispy Kreme claimed that proved I wasn't a sailor.

That Bruno bloke obviously hasn't a clue either. Acrimony, smackrimony, it's all just said in jest. One big happy family.

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 02:16 PM

Yes, yes, yes.

 

in 2000/2003 he was lamenting because NZ was in the middle of nowhere. In 2007 he was complaining that Bertarelli wouldn't let him run the show as he pleased. In 2010 he was telling everyone how pleased he was not to have to deal with EB anymore because EL and him were on the same wavelength. And now ... he complains about EL because the snoozefest is over.

 

The guy is a complete joke.

 

The Louis Vuitton Cup as such has no existence of its own, there is no point in discussing it's future.



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Posted 27 August 2013 - 03:02 PM

good point edouard....how you forget things eh?
and valencia was a shit whole to all the south hemisphere folks
and guess what?
the majority still live there :-(

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 03:33 PM

Bruno is a weathercock because AC is his life. But Bruno, you are getting old and new LV Management has no interest. Look who was representing LV for the Prize Giving of the new bigger Trophy. The local reps and Christine "San Diego" Bélanger. 

 

I agree with Edouard all the way



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Posted 27 August 2013 - 03:53 PM

"Truebell" ????

 

it's clear that w/Carcelle gone, the LVMH sponsorship of sailing at such a deep level as the LV Cup is not a priority as in Yves' day.



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Posted 27 August 2013 - 05:05 PM

Bruno has been there and done that, so his words carry a certain amount of weight. He has been on the inside of this edition and no doubt his disappointment comes through. Not sure what the total answer is but I'm sure BT will help to be a part of the solution. He has a lifetime invested in it, from sailor to promoter.



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Posted 27 August 2013 - 06:17 PM

I met Bruno over 20 years ago in Paris. Really decent bloke, straightfoward, very helpful to all sailors, and a real gent.







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