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#1 jasenj1

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Posted 04 September 2013 - 12:59 PM

https://www.clipperroundtheworld.com/

 

I'm surprised this hasn't seen more (any?) front page coverage. I guess the AC debacle is more entertaining. I hadn't heard of the Clipper race before, but it looks like a very exciting life goal. I watched the start on YouTube and the founder seems to approach it very much like climbing Mount Everest or some other great adventure. It's a way for "average" people (with enough $$$) to do something very few will get to.

 

Is there a virtual race like there is for the VOR? A game online where you can skipper your own virtual boat?

 

- Jasen.



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Posted 04 September 2013 - 01:17 PM

Since it's a pay to play "adventure" it doesn't get the same attention as the VOR, but then most ocean races don't in the U.S.! Of course the Whitbread was originally amateur adventurers with money too...

 

and see virtualregatta.com, The virtual race is not as well organized as the VOR game (never found good SIs etc).



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Posted 05 September 2013 - 07:53 AM

maybe no coverage because it is hardly a race but a commercial conceit.

 

Rather than let the crews face the real racing challenge of the Alderney Race and the Chenal du Four in light winds they are stopping the first leg midstream and making the crews motor to Brest so that they can keep the sponsors and the port stoppover who paid for the privilege.



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Posted 05 September 2013 - 10:26 AM

maybe no coverage because it is hardly a race but a commercial conceit.

 

The same could be said of the America's Cup.  :unsure:



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Posted 05 September 2013 - 10:33 AM

maybe no coverage because it is hardly a race but a commercial conceit.

 

The same could be said of the America's Cup.  :unsure:

 

I would cetainly be pissed off if I was one of the crews paying $60,000 to "race" around the world and then motoring half of the first leg because it got a little too hard!



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Posted 05 September 2013 - 11:13 AM

Last time they motored across the top of the Philippines with gunboat escort due to pirate threat.
but it is about making sponsor ports on time for max sponsor exposure.
That is why Clipper gets sponsors coming back year after year.
Qingdoa has signed on for the last two and signed for another 3 to come.
Don't see too many Volvo sponsors doing that!!!
In fact has any Volvo sponsor ever backed up?

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Posted 05 September 2013 - 12:35 PM

Lol can we also discus the last Volvo. Aka DHL delivery race? Where half the fleet road half the time on container ships. (Piracy, breakdowns, etc) not to mention selecting ports they couldnt sail too due to piracy... Welcome to commercialized sailing!

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Posted 05 September 2013 - 12:58 PM

maybe no coverage because it is hardly a race but a commercial conceit.

 

Rather than let the crews face the real racing challenge of the Alderney Race and the Chenal du Four in light winds they are stopping the first leg midstream and making the crews motor to Brest so that they can keep the sponsors and the port stoppover who paid for the privilege.

Not exactly true, and you probably know it. The fleet had already been through the Alderney Race.

The issue was not that it was difficult, christ there was nothing 'hard' about the conditions they were in, but that they had little or no breeze for sailing, therefore the course was shortened. Yes, there is a certain amount of having to meet timetables, but put it into perspective. The cost of running boats competitive enough to be fast in really light airs would be prohibitive, and therefore an amateur RTW would not exist.

Our sport has an inherent problem. With too much wind we cancel inshore racing, with too little wind then boats cannot sail.

 

Whatever you think of Clipper, it's pay to play business, training model etc., there is no doubt in my mind that they will introduce more long time sailors to the sport than the AC will. If not for Clipper there would be no ATRacing, no Team Origin (okay, maybe not the best example). In the same way Mike Golding got his sponsorship break due to Global Challenge. We are lucky enough to be in a sport that has a wonderful spectrum. If everything was like Clipper it would be terrible, but if everything was like the AC (or another more successful but totally professional area of the sport (TPs, ESS, Mini Maxis)) it would also be terrible. Adventure is an inherent part of sailing that allows it to cross from pasttime to sport.

 

Before the end of this race the crew will have been through tougher conditions than many people on this site will ever see. So to imply that they ended this leg early because it was too tough is frankly bollocks.



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Posted 05 September 2013 - 01:18 PM

maybe no coverage because it is hardly a race but a commercial conceit.

 

Rather than let the crews face the real racing challenge of the Alderney Race and the Chenal du Four in light winds they are stopping the first leg midstream and making the crews motor to Brest so that they can keep the sponsors and the port stoppover who paid for the privilege.

Not exactly true, and you probably know it. The fleet had already been through the Alderney Race.

The issue was not that it was difficult, christ there was nothing 'hard' about the conditions they were in, but that they had little or no breeze for sailing, therefore the course was shortened. Yes, there is a certain amount of having to meet timetables, but put it into perspective. The cost of running boats competitive enough to be fast in really light airs would be prohibitive, and therefore an amateur RTW would not exist.

Our sport has an inherent problem. With too much wind we cancel inshore racing, with too little wind then boats cannot sail.

 

Whatever you think of Clipper, it's pay to play business, training model etc., there is no doubt in my mind that they will introduce more long time sailors to the sport than the AC will. If not for Clipper there would be no ATRacing, no Team Origin (okay, maybe not the best example). In the same way Mike Golding got his sponsorship break due to Global Challenge. We are lucky enough to be in a sport that has a wonderful spectrum. If everything was like Clipper it would be terrible, but if everything was like the AC (or another more successful but totally professional area of the sport (TPs, ESS, Mini Maxis)) it would also be terrible. Adventure is an inherent part of sailing that allows it to cross from pasttime to sport.

 

Before the end of this race the crew will have been through tougher conditions than many people on this site will ever see. So to imply that they ended this leg early because it was too tough is frankly bollocks.

 

Well put.  We've had a number of former clipper crew turning up on the crew boards for various races.  Quite a few of them had never sailed before the race and are now life long racers because of it.

 

However that 2 boats got penalised for TSS violations off Dover is frankly absurd.  They were obstructions in the SIs and they have pro skippers!



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Posted 05 September 2013 - 04:32 PM

Whatever you think of Clipper, it's pay to play business, training model etc., there is no doubt in my mind that they will introduce more long time sailors to the sport than the AC will. I

 

I was about to make a post making fun of Clipper for calling off the first leg (rather than arrive in port 24 hours late), but then I saw the picture of the Clipper crews on the first page of the Clipper website.  It is extremely impressive to see 250+ novice sailors, suited up in foulies, ready to head offshore. The race is extremely good for the sport, even if it is not exactly my cup of tea.



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Posted 05 September 2013 - 05:37 PM

However that 2 boats got penalised for TSS violations off Dover is frankly absurd.  They were obstructions in the SIs and they have pro skippers!

 

I have to agree with you on that one. Marc Guillemot and Grant Dalton have both been caught by them before, but that they were in the SIs does make it worse.



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Posted 05 September 2013 - 10:40 PM

Potter, as usual a thoughtful post that captures the essence.

Clipper is not everyone's cup of tea but it is part of the spectrum and those who participate will have done something many of us only dream/think about.

Go the Clipper crews.

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Posted 06 September 2013 - 06:37 AM

In fact has any Volvo sponsor ever backed up?

Ericsson
Puma
Merit Cup
Telefonica

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Posted 10 September 2013 - 02:36 PM

http://yb.tl/clipper2013-leg2

 

The fleet has split. One half staying to the east of the rhumb line, the other diving south towards Spain. Team Garmin seems to be splitting the difference at the moment.

 

- Jasen.



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Posted 11 September 2013 - 09:41 AM

Last time they motored across the top of the Philippines with gunboat escort due to pirate threat.
but it is about making sponsor ports on time for max sponsor exposure.
That is why Clipper gets sponsors coming back year after year.
Qingdoa has signed on for the last two and signed for another 3 to come.
Don't see too many Volvo sponsors doing that!!!
In fact has any Volvo sponsor ever backed up?

 

 

Abu Dhabi are coming back for the next race, Telefonica did two..... a fair few Volvo sponsors come back



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Posted 12 September 2013 - 02:56 PM

https://www.clipperr...breaking-speeds

 

"The fleet have faced strong winds and challenging conditions in the last 24 hours, and with team OneDLLreportedly experiencing wind speeds in excess of 44 knots, there’s no surprise that Henri Lloyd has set a new Clipper 70 speed record reaching over 30 knots yesterday."

 

Sounds worth FP coverage to me.



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Posted 12 September 2013 - 03:06 PM

You sound quite invested Jasen, why don't you write a fp piece and send it over?  No press release!

 

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Posted 12 September 2013 - 03:09 PM

https://www.clipperr...breaking-speeds

 

"The fleet have faced strong winds and challenging conditions in the last 24 hours, and with team OneDLLreportedly experiencing wind speeds in excess of 44 knots, there’s no surprise that Henri Lloyd has set a new Clipper 70 speed record reaching over 30 knots yesterday."

 

Sounds worth FP coverage to me.

Exactly why we don't run that shit...

 

I was watching them sail around at 9-11 knots in 20-30 yesterday for hours.  Love to see the 30-knot data.



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Posted 12 September 2013 - 03:16 PM

Wow, Garmin are banging the corner somewhat!



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Posted 13 September 2013 - 10:06 PM

Very much looking forward to welcoming the Clipper yachts into the port of Albany on the South Coast of Western Australia in late November.

 

Just out of interest - is anyone playing the Virtual Regatta game and are there any Polars for the new boat? Haven't been able to find any yet and my brain requires too much rewiring to access the math I learnt over 25 years ago to work them out!!



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Posted 14 September 2013 - 08:36 PM

Just out of interest - is anyone playing the Virtual Regatta game and are there any Polars for the new boat? Haven't been able to find any yet and my brain requires too much rewiring to access the math I learnt over 25 years ago to work them out!!

 

I don't think even the skippers have polars for these new boats.  Some boats (I am looking at you Garmin) have been VMG running at 135 degrees TWA, other boats (Old Pulteney) have been sailing very deep, perhaps 165 TWA. The boats in the front of the pack are running closer to 150 TWA.  This has been in 18-22 knots winds speed.  

 

Garmin is pretty clearly running hotter than she should for these conditions, sailing faster than the fleet but losing miles with every update. 



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Posted 15 September 2013 - 08:36 AM

Christ over 30 knots? In those caravans? Pics or it didn't happen. Surely someone would have taken a picture of the log afterwards showing the top speed?



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Posted 15 September 2013 - 06:36 PM

Garmin are a day behind after 7 days of sailing, 
Im glad Im not on that boat, long ocean passages are fine, and long races are fine, but arriving three or four days after the rest of the fleet have tied up is a kick in the balls. 

 

if you want a video of a clipper boat sending it, the visit finland sanfrasisco one gets pushed out fairly frequently, and Id imagine the data limit on satcom precludes sending that picture back, wait till they hit rio.



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Posted 18 November 2013 - 10:21 AM


 

Quite dangerous sport for grandpas. Accidental gybes etc...

 

"60 knots and 100-130knots gusts" but still with main and flying boom to make damage.

Balls of steel or just stupid.



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Posted 18 November 2013 - 07:19 PM

......Balls of steel or just (stupid) ignorant of the possibilities.

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....fixed!..........I'd say a combination of the two would give the best effect :mellow:

 

...this race is great,,,for what it is ;)



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Posted 18 November 2013 - 07:28 PM

I thought they were required to pull a dingy or a zodiac behind them at all times?  And I gotta ask, any Carvel ice cream cake to go with those balloons?



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Posted 18 November 2013 - 07:29 PM

At the end he says something like 'i don't know what the fuss was about, i simply fainted'!

 

Classic.

 

Love to see the accidental gybe...after taking the broadside.

 

Would handle better on autopilot.



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Posted 18 November 2013 - 07:59 PM

At the end he says something like 'i don't know what the fuss was about, i simply fainted'!

 

Classic.

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............one of human's natural responses when faced with impending death...............fight,,,flight,,,,or FAINT!! :mellow:



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Posted 18 November 2013 - 09:47 PM

At the end he says something like 'i don't know what the fuss was about, i simply fainted'!

 

Classic.

 

Love to see the accidental gybe...after taking the broadside.

 

Would handle better on autopilot.

 

Yeah what is up with that gybe?  It looks like the boat swung through about 90 degrees before it happened. The helmsman doesn't seem to be resisting it either. He turns in to it some.



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Posted 18 November 2013 - 11:59 PM

Back to the sea, wave breaking over the side and a perfect crash gybe! a perfect example of how not to helm a yacht at sea! 



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Posted 19 November 2013 - 12:53 AM

At the end he says something like 'i don't know what the fuss was about, i simply fainted'!

 

Classic.

 

Love to see the accidental gybe...after taking the broadside.

 

Would handle better on autopilot.

 

Yeah what is up with that gybe?  It looks like the boat swung through about 90 degrees before it happened. The helmsman doesn't seem to be resisting it either. He turns in to it some.

 

Turn into the skid?

 

Who the fuck knows what's going on on these boats. Three in the cockpit with their backs to a massive seaway is just mental. The fact that the helmsman didn't give them a warning shout isn't quite as surprising given his / her reaction following being hit by the wave... wobble the boat into a crash gybe!

 

The boat captains must be earning their money...

 

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Posted 19 November 2013 - 01:12 AM

The boat captains must be earning their money...

 

Mex

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...is that the guy who's tied to the mast?? :unsure:



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Posted 19 November 2013 - 03:15 AM

Boy, who is driving? I like those surfing slam jibes without so much as an effort to drive the boat...  looks like he/she's frozon on the wheel... Jibe? oh shit how did that happen!



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Posted 19 November 2013 - 04:50 AM

I think they had one of those inflatable dolls dressed up in Henri Lloyds duc taped to the helm, and it was on auto pilot... ;)  :ph34r:



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Posted 19 November 2013 - 06:30 AM

 

At the end he says something like 'i don't know what the fuss was about, i simply fainted'!

 

Classic.

 

Love to see the accidental gybe...after taking the broadside.

 

Would handle better on autopilot.

 

Yeah what is up with that gybe?  It looks like the boat swung through about 90 degrees before it happened. The helmsman doesn't seem to be resisting it either. He turns in to it some.

 

Turn into the skid?

 

Who the fuck knows what's going on on these boats. Three in the cockpit with their backs to a massive seaway is just mental. The fact that the helmsman didn't give them a warning shout isn't quite as surprising given his / her reaction following being hit by the wave... wobble the boat into a crash gybe!

 

The boat captains must be earning their money...

 

Mex

HAHAHAHAHAHA

 

I said a few months ago after hearing some early sea trial reports that there's no way I'm ever going on one of those boats.

 

I think it might be worth it after seeing that video!



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Posted 19 November 2013 - 06:48 AM

Boy, who is driving? I like those surfing slam jibes without so much as an effort to drive the boat...  looks like he/she's frozon on the wheel... Jibe? oh shit how did that happen!

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....it's good they weren't doing 'in excess of 30 knots' then :blink:



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Posted 04 December 2013 - 08:33 AM

On the way to Sydney.

 

There does not seem much love for this go round on here.

 

Seems we needed a 'local' entrant to keep it alive last time. :)

 

Crew should be used to the boats for the Syd-Hobart, so will be an interesting race amongst themselves.

A lot of bragging rights I would expect for winning the Syd-Hobart leg.



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Posted 04 December 2013 - 10:09 AM

2 boats returned to port after crash... again

 

will we see crash in sydney hobart also?

12 boat fleet is crowded for them.

 

what will happen in 100 boat fleet???



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Posted 04 December 2013 - 08:58 PM

What happened to the Australian skipper that was on Garmin? He bailed out in SA.



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Posted 05 December 2013 - 07:33 AM

I've been heavily involved with the Albany stopover and have purposefully refrained from posting here because of some of the comments but if you scroll through a few of the skipper reports from their first day at sea following their stopover here you'll see how much they loved the place, especially the welcome we gave them and the hospitality whilst they were here.

 

It's a shame there was a collision coming up to the first mark but the boats have been patched up and they're now on their way to Sydney.

 

There is still an Aussie skipper in the race on PSP Logistics, Chris Hollis. He's from Sydney, as are many of the crew, and they were very much looking forward to leading the fleet into Sydney Harbour. Unfortunately with the collision with Great Britain that is not likely to happen.

 

It was great having the Clippers in town for the week. Provided a real focal point and vibe at the City's new Marina and we look forward to welcoming the fleet back to Albany in November 2015.

 

For those interested here is a video of the start of Leg 4 from Albany to Sydney you can view the video here

https://www.youtube....h?v=sqPNBvq1Pg4

 


 



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Posted 05 December 2013 - 08:42 AM

Bit harsh forss.  The incident you're thinking of was 2 whole races ago, in Cape Town on the 09/10 one.  Whatever the outcome of the protest committee, the whole thing does at least indicate that there is a good air of competition in the fleet.  The RSHR will be a heck of a thing for them - from my own experience driving Clipper yachts in the Round the Island Race with corporate guests (nowhere near as good as trained Clipper crew) all you do at the start line with that many boats involved is keep in as much clear water as you can.  As Leka says, they'll be racing each other (and making damn sure they beat RKJ who's on a 68!).  Sounds like they had a great stopover, well done Albanyguy.



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Posted 05 December 2013 - 11:29 AM

Bit harsh forss.  The incident you're thinking of was 2 whole races ago, in Cape Town on the 09/10 one.  Whatever the outcome of the protest committee, the whole thing does at least indicate that there is a good air of competition in the fleet.  The RSHR will be a heck of a thing for them - from my own experience driving Clipper yachts in the Round the Island Race with corporate guests (nowhere near as good as trained Clipper crew) all you do at the start line with that many boats involved is keep in as much clear water as you can.  As Leka says, they'll be racing each other (and making damn sure they beat RKJ who's on a 68!).  Sounds like they had a great stopover, well done Albanyguy.

Actually, I think he is referring to the incident 2 days ago when PSP and Great Britain had to return to Albany after an incident at the windward mark.

No doubt the IJ will come up with a suitable answer but immediate thoughts are that someone forgot there is a prodder sticking out the front! Of course as the boats get bigger so does the potential damage from even a minor incident.

 

That said I concur with the rest of your remarks.



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Posted 05 December 2013 - 12:48 PM

Bit harsh forss.  The incident you're thinking of was 2 whole races ago, in Cape Town on the 09/10 one.  Whatever the outcome of the protest committee, the whole thing does at least indicate that there is a good air of competition in the fleet.  The RSHR will be a heck of a thing for them - from my own experience driving Clipper yachts in the Round the Island Race with corporate guests (nowhere near as good as trained Clipper crew) all you do at the start line with that many boats involved is keep in as much clear water as you can.  As Leka says, they'll be racing each other (and making damn sure they beat RKJ who's on a 68!).  Sounds like they had a great stopover, well done Albanyguy.


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Posted 05 December 2013 - 01:04 PM

It was the "return to port...again" bit that I saw.  The PSP/GB one is the first time since Cape Town in 09/10 that there's been a start day collision requiring a return to port.  That video of the collision is good - as you say, definitely "oops - where'd the pointy thing come from?".

 

 

Drop Bear, not sure what you meant by "mb or crew", I used to skipper them - think that's what you were after.



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Posted 05 December 2013 - 03:15 PM

Hi. No I was asking who you were. And assumed your screen name related to the boat in the UK.

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Posted 06 December 2013 - 07:02 AM

So, any opinions who was at fault in the mess at the start?



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Posted 09 December 2013 - 09:20 AM

From my vantage point on the water close to the mark it was clearly GB's fault. There is a fair amount of video footage, including from onboard both boats. The IJ in Sydney will view that footage and make up their own mind.



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Posted 10 December 2013 - 05:52 AM

Cheers AG.

 

Thats how it looked on the vid I seen as well.

 

Looks like the lead bunch will have a nice reach up the Coast for a few days.



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Posted 11 December 2013 - 07:07 AM

Based on the video it looked as though GB had gone through head to wind and at the time of the collision were effectively on port with backed headsails.

 

I guess they are in for some time on the naughty chair!



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Posted 12 December 2013 - 08:51 AM

The lead boats are currently beating towards the finish, about 50nm out, in a fresh north easter. They should be finishing around midnight local time. Henri Lloyd looks the goods for first place. Poor old Londonderry has drop way back after leading yesterday.



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Posted 13 December 2013 - 01:10 AM

First 3 Clipper yachts have crossed the line in Rushcutters Bay on Sydney Harbour. Henri Lloyd were first at 0315 local time. OneDLL 2nd at 0614 & Qingdao 3rd at 0911. There is a real tight battle for 4th with Switzerland and Derry-Londonderry-Doire within 2nm of each other.



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Posted 18 December 2013 - 03:44 AM

So it would seem the GB was at fault..........

 

 

The independent protest committee convened at CYCA has viewed all the evidence presented by the skippers of PSP Logistics and GREAT Britain this morning and reached a verdict.

PSP Logistics was awarded redress on the basis of its average points in the race to date which equates to 8.3 points for Race 5, putting it in fifth place overall with 41.3 points.

GREAT Britain will receive no points putting them in fourth place overall with 41 points.

This will not affect the line honours positions of the rest of the fleet for Race 5.

However, the Clipper Race Committee will now meet to consider whether, under the Clipper Race Rules, any further penalty points will result from the incident for GREAT Britain.



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Posted 19 December 2013 - 08:12 PM

Was never in doubt.



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Posted 30 December 2013 - 02:40 AM

So one of the 68's outsailed most of the 70 fleet.

Only 4 hours behind the first 70 (Derry) and 30 mins in front of the 2nd (GB)

 

 

So, a better crew on the 68 or are the 70's not as fast?

 

Some good interesting results.

 

Ozee, When you catch your breath and have a few minutes a race review would be good to hear.



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Posted 31 December 2013 - 05:30 AM

Some of their tactics approaching Hobart was a bit strange, especially Invest Africa's decision to head so far east away from the Tassie coast, when everyone else headed inshore.



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Posted 01 January 2014 - 03:03 AM

Leka the new 70's are better off the breeze than the 68's & not so good into it. I noticed the tacking angles on the 70's once they rounded Tasman were like 100-110 degrees.

And yeah would be interesting to hear from Richard Gould, skipper of Invest Africa, and Mark Burkes, skipper of Team Garmin, what the hell they were doing with their crazy Ivan tracks.

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Posted 01 January 2014 - 11:02 AM

Henri Lloyd's rudder problems won't be fixed by the time of the delayed start to Brisbane (1700 Thursday, local time), so she will leave about 24 hours behind the fleet and will be awarded average points (9.9) for the leg.

 

Looking at the weather predictions I would be heading in a great circle route well to the east if I was skippering :)



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Posted 01 January 2014 - 11:41 AM

Nice to meet Ozee in person and get a nice hug.  what a lovely woman!



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Posted 02 January 2014 - 05:57 AM

Looks like the Clipper fleet will be starting the Hobart to Brisbane leg in some strong sou'westeries.

 

 



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Posted 02 January 2014 - 06:14 AM

Yep, gust of 89knots recorded on top of Mt Wellington at 0740 this morning. Has moderated a touch since then. Tasman Island recording 25-40knots from SW atm. Should be a relatively quick trip down the Derwent & a bit of fun to be had across Storm Bay before they turn left at Tasman.

 

Race to Bris Vegas just started.



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Posted 02 January 2014 - 09:24 AM

Hobart to brisbane is one of the most "SPECIAL" trip you can ever do this time of year.

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Posted 02 January 2014 - 10:14 AM

Check out the hobart thread for latest news from storm bay

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Posted 02 January 2014 - 10:17 AM

probably should add further update to this thread .



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Posted 02 January 2014 - 11:13 AM

continueing on from the Hobart thread , in now appears both vessels are in a holding patern off Roaring Beach

 

CV 23 is Mission Performance

 

CV 22 is Qingdao

 

http://www.marinetraffic.com/en/



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Posted 02 January 2014 - 12:08 PM

Qingdao appears to be limping back to Hobart, Mission Performance appears to be still in a holding pattern.

 

The main fleet is dividing into those who want to head straight up the coast, and those heading off shore, with a mix in between.



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Posted 02 January 2014 - 12:23 PM

Pretty Fly III a military Ops vessel has entered the picture .....................

 

Obviously nothing to do with the Clippers steaming straight past .



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Posted 02 January 2014 - 12:35 PM

Pretty Fly III a military Ops vessel has entered the picture .....................

 

Obviously nothing to do with the Clippers steaming straight past .

I was curious about that designation too, I think it's a typo (http://rolexsydneyho...pretty-fly-iii/)  (excuse me if I missed the sarcasm font on that)

 

Neither of the two clippers look to be going back to Hobart.



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Posted 02 January 2014 - 12:38 PM

Pretty Fly III is a cookson 50 canter !
a mistake by marinetraffic

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Posted 02 January 2014 - 12:41 PM

looking at the Tracks it would appear one of the Clippers is having trouble with their steering and the other is keeping her company till they sort it ?

 

Pure conjecture on my part .



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Posted 02 January 2014 - 12:47 PM

They're right along side each other now, I'd say you're right in that one is looking after the other could be any host of reasons though...



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Posted 02 January 2014 - 12:58 PM

copied from the Syd Hob thread :

 

It was mission performance, two crew evacuated one with broken ribs and one with head injuries- says it was a "below deck incident" in "stable sailing conditions" whatever that means

 

wonder if we've been watching them attempt the rendezvous with the rescue boat ?

 

both heading west now at 5k's

 

gdTsDYC.jpg



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Posted 02 January 2014 - 01:01 PM

According to the Clipper website there was an incident on MP and two crew members have been medivaced off the boat. MP heading back to Hobart with Qingdao shadowing them.

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Posted 02 January 2014 - 01:05 PM

AIS shows Qingdao in the lead ..........



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Posted 02 January 2014 - 01:11 PM

MISSION PERFORMANCE INCIDENT 02 JAN 2014

 

Two crew members on Mission Performance have been transferred to hospital in Hobart this evening for medical evaluation following an accident below decks in stable sailing conditions.

 

Katherine Camilleri (50) from Sydney, Australia, has suspected broken or bruised ribs. Derek Furniss (44) from Hebden Bridge, West Yorkshire, sustained a head injury. Next of Kin have been informed.

 

The casualties were transferred by helicopter to the Royal Hobart Hospital for assessment. The casualties were transferred by helicopter to the Royal Hobart Hospital for assessment. Mission Performance is returning to Hobart with an engine problem unrelated to the incident. Qingdao, which stood by to assist if required during the Medevac, is escorting Mission Performance back to port.

 

https://www.clipperr...rmance-incident



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Posted 03 January 2014 - 02:05 AM

From Clipper home page:

 

Mission Performance and Henri Lloyd left Hobart this morning at 1230 local time. Two crew members from Qingdao have joined Mission Performance to assist the crew. 

 

 

Is there an issue on these boats?

Wonder what the real story is??



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Posted 03 January 2014 - 10:45 AM

From Clipper home page:

 

Mission Performance and Henri Lloyd left Hobart this morning at 1230 local time. Two crew members from Qingdao have joined Mission Performance to assist the crew. 

 

 

Is there an issue on these boats?

Wonder what the real story is??

 

The "real story" is probably simply what the Clipper race says: two MP crew members were injured below deck (as can happen anytime on any boat especially with relatively inexperienced crew) and MP found their engine wasn't performing normally when they fired it up to evacuate their injured crew. 



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Posted 12 January 2014 - 10:09 AM

Saw the boats leaving Brisbane this PM. And later the GBR boat returned to port and is back at the local marina. I guess something busted.

Just realised next leg is to Singapore - in the middle of cyclone season. Not clever timing.

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Posted 12 January 2014 - 10:57 AM

Bugger, missed them.

Where they in the River?

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Posted 13 January 2014 - 02:52 AM

Nice article on the ABC website about the Clipper RTW race from the Sydney to Hobart leg:

 

http://www.abc.net.a...taguchi/5196226

 

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Posted 13 January 2014 - 05:29 AM

They were at Rivergate.  One was taking on fuel right after us.  The fuel dock and customs dock was 90% taken by a megayacht called Dragonfly.  They even blocked off the fairway leading into a number of slips.  Sucks if you wanted to go out that weekend.

 

There was about 30' of fuel dock left for fuel.  We're 40' so it wasn't too bad.  It must have been more interesting with a 70'.  Lots of stern overhang :)



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Posted 17 January 2014 - 09:18 AM

Does anyone know why leg 8 is split into two sections, 8A and 8B? With what appears to be a non racing leg across the south end of The Phillipines. Could it be an escorted section just in case of pirates? 



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Posted 18 January 2014 - 01:43 AM

Does anyone know why leg 8 is split into two sections, 8A and 8B? With what appears to be a non racing leg across the south end of The Phillipines. Could it be an escorted section just in case of pirates?

Last time we stopped racing there more because of the inaccuracy of charts than pirates, but there was local activity reported which was monitored daily - you probably know Clippers has SOP for approaching boats etc.

During this time we buddied up with other boats & stayed together, a really awesome feature of this leg is doing the daily engine checks = turn them off to let them cool & go swimming in 4000 meters of water :)
I've put the question on the Clipper FB page to see if there are any different answers

Did you go under New Guinea on your race?

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Posted 18 January 2014 - 05:28 AM


Does anyone know why leg 8 is split into two sections, 8A and 8B? With what appears to be a non racing leg across the south end of The Phillipines. Could it be an escorted section just in case of pirates?

Last time we stopped racing there more because of the inaccuracy of charts than pirates, but there was local activity reported which was monitored daily - you probably know Clippers has SOP for approaching boats etc.

During this time we buddied up with other boats & stayed together, a really awesome feature of this leg is doing the daily engine checks = turn them off to let them cool & go swimming in 4000 meters of water :)
I've put the question on the Clipper FB page to see if there are any different answers

Did you go under New Guinea on your race?


Apparently its all about the Sulu Sea & no wind - it buggers up the schedules so when it drops its finish the race & engines on

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Posted 18 January 2014 - 11:25 AM

Thanks for the info on the split leg.

 

I've never been to sea in a yacht, all my sailing has been on enclosed waters, mostly sailing skiffs and NS14s.



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Posted 18 January 2014 - 07:36 PM

Thanks for the info on the split leg.
 
I've never been to sea in a yacht, all my sailing has been on enclosed waters, mostly sailing skiffs and NS14s.

Sorry I thought you'd done a leg with Clipper
Found a video of a tour around the insides of a 70 this morning
http://www.telegraph...-the-world.html

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Posted 18 January 2014 - 08:35 PM

I did do a tour of Invest Africa when they were in Sydney. I think if I was on board I would want to be on deck as much as possible, especially if you were in the tropics, not a lot of room below even for a 70 footer :)

 

Atm it looks like the fleet has split into a north vs south group with the south group doing the best. I see that the course is very restricted tactic wise with a number of marks along the route that have compulsory passing sides.



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Posted 18 January 2014 - 10:27 PM

I did do a tour of Invest Africa when they were in Sydney. I think if I was on board I would want to be on deck as much as possible, especially if you were in the tropics, not a lot of room below even for a 70 footer :)
 
Atm it looks like the fleet has split into a north vs south group with the south group doing the best. I see that the course is very restricted tactic wise with a number of marks along the route that have compulsory passing sides.

In the crew briefing before every leg they go thru those & the reasons behind them, the same will happen pretty much on each leg - the pacific crossing will be a height (Long & Lat) not to cross as it will guarantee more carnage

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Posted 11 February 2014 - 05:22 AM

Thanks for the info on the split leg.

 

I've never been to sea in a yacht, all my sailing has been on enclosed waters, mostly sailing skiffs and NS14s.

In the previous race, on the same leg to Singapore, they had to motor through no wind, but had limited gas. So the race was halted midway and half the fleet motored and towed the other half of the fleet behind it in order to conserve gas. Then they switched over, so they could cover more distance on the diesel they had. In this year's race, I raced on Henri Lloyd in Legs 1 and 3 and they've done it differently in '13-'14 by pulling into port in Borneo to refuel. They were supposed to have a second race starting from somewhere in the South China Sea, but Clipper has just announced that there isn't enough wind to race the second race and get the boats into Singapore in time for the other scheduled stopovers. Which means Henri Lloyd won this leg - woo hoo! If you have any questions about racing with Clipper, feel free to ask me. I only learned to sail when my husband and I bought a boat six years ago and I have to say that racing across the Southern Ocean is the most incredibly exhilarating thing I've done in my life yet. I would be back on that ocean now if I had the money to do another leg :-)



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Posted 11 February 2014 - 05:24 PM

Thanks for the info on the split leg.

 

I've never been to sea in a yacht, all my sailing has been on enclosed waters, mostly sailing skiffs and NS14s.

In the previous race, on the same leg to Singapore, they had to motor through no wind, but had limited gas. So the race was halted midway and half the fleet motored and towed the other half of the fleet behind it in order to conserve gas. Then they switched over, so they could cover more distance on the diesel they had. In this year's race, I raced on Henri Lloyd in Legs 1 and 3 and they've done it differently in '13-'14 by pulling into port in Borneo to refuel. They were supposed to have a second race starting from somewhere in the South China Sea, but Clipper has just announced that there isn't enough wind to race the second race and get the boats into Singapore in time for the other scheduled stopovers. Which means Henri Lloyd won this leg - woo hoo! If you have any questions about racing with Clipper, feel free to ask me. I only learned to sail when my husband and I bought a boat six years ago and I have to say that racing across the Southern Ocean is the most incredibly exhilarating thing I've done in my life yet. I would be back on that ocean now if I had the money to do another leg :-)

 

 

    thanks for your post,gal.For all said on these pages,yer gotta say the clipper race certainly adds an extra element to ocean racing!



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Posted 14 February 2014 - 03:55 PM

Go Henri Llloyd!!!



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Posted 24 February 2014 - 06:11 PM

New news!

Current leg cancelled due to Forestay bottlescrew failure.

http://www.clipperro...rigging-repairs

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Posted 24 February 2014 - 09:03 PM

New news!

Current leg cancelled due to Forestay bottlescrew failure.

http://www.clipperro...rigging-repairs

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............. :huh:



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Posted 24 February 2014 - 11:49 PM

I suppose you could say they are consistent in the quality of the parts..



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Posted 24 February 2014 - 11:59 PM

But no need to worry chaps, the MCA have said the new ones will be fine.

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Posted 25 February 2014 - 11:28 PM

Wow, not unlucky or material defect, sounds like genuine design error if 3 have gone at once!

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Posted 26 February 2014 - 08:04 AM

Unless they got a faulty batch. But yeah, if I were a betting man then I'd say that probably someone forgot to carry the one or something.

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Posted 14 July 2014 - 04:21 PM

So there was some flap about which wx/routing software was used and now GBR is  banned from using their not-from-the-list software.

 

http://www.telegraph...the-course.html

 

Does anyone have some detail here?   What were the approved software packages, and which was GBR using? 



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Posted 14 July 2014 - 11:01 PM

That is in the second last para of the article. They were using Expedition until it was banned, then they had to use Seapro which is the standard package the rest of the fleet had.

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Posted 23 July 2014 - 11:50 AM

It seems like a pretty hilarious situation. Clearly race Director Justin Taylor has no idea what he is talking about, which is concerning for being the director of an event like this.

 

"Talbot was said to be deeply unhappy when given the news since he had not broken any rules but he has been forced to ditch his Expedition software and has now had nine days to get used to the standard issue Seapro software.

“I doubt you will see any difference. Their overall performance is unlikely to suffer,” Taylor said."



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Posted 23 July 2014 - 04:48 PM

Why does that statement indicate that Taylor doesn't know what he's talking about?






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