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#1 barleymalt

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Posted 12 September 2013 - 11:49 PM

Training camps have started, the season is a few short weeks away.  Who do you like to take Divisions, Conferences and the Cup and why?.



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Posted 13 September 2013 - 12:06 AM

No more 10pm EST Playoff games for Detroit!! Yee Haa!

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Posted 13 September 2013 - 12:06 AM

NESN just started a series called "Behind the B" (think hard knocks for hockey) which is actually a pretty in depth look at the Bruins organization since they lost the cup.  I thought he first episode was actually pretty interesting and you really don't need to be a Bruins fan to appreciate what these guys are going through since it seems like more of a look at life in the league than this particular team.



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Posted 13 September 2013 - 12:10 AM

Damn realignment, I no longer know anything about divisions and conferences. Everything we knew about Divisional strength is changed, with two asymmetric divisions per conference. Or is it the other way around?

The division games no longer can be battles, since the majority of any given team's games will now be in-division.

Anyway, Ottawa in the Atlantic, 'Canes in the Metropolitan, St. Louis in the Western and Phoenix in the Pacific.

Just naming those new divisions like that makes me feel somewhat dirty and more than a little perverted. The Metropolitan Division? Seriously, wtf?

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Posted 13 September 2013 - 12:11 AM

If it was truly a behind the scenes look at the Bruins you might get to hear what they think of their goaltender abandoning them....

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Posted 13 September 2013 - 02:47 PM

I'd expect that to be "not much" really.

 

We all expect a certain level of kook in our goalies.  Thomas just got kooky, that's all.

The organization is deep enough to succeed without him, evidently.



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Posted 13 September 2013 - 02:50 PM

Damn realignment, I no longer know anything about divisions and conferences. Everything we knew about Divisional strength is changed, with two asymmetric divisions per conference. Or is it the other way around?

The division games no longer can be battles, since the majority of any given team's games will now be in-division.

Anyway, Ottawa in the Atlantic, 'Canes in the Metropolitan, St. Louis in the Western and Phoenix in the Pacific.

Just naming those new divisions like that makes me feel somewhat dirty and more than a little perverted. The Metropolitan Division? Seriously, wtf?

when they dropped the Norris and Campbell conference names I stopped caring what they called them.

At least they didn't go with leaders and legends

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Posted 14 September 2013 - 11:43 AM

I'd expect that to be "not much" really.

 

We all expect a certain level of kook in our goalies.  Thomas just got kooky, that's all.

The organization is deep enough to succeed without him, evidently.

 

 

Without Rusk it probably would have been a different reaction.



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Posted 16 September 2013 - 02:08 PM

have to do some figurin' and get back to you but one thing i know for sure:  the oilers have to start winning on a regular basis.  they have a lot of young talent who are all experienced now.  the "young guys" excuse is over. 



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Posted 16 September 2013 - 03:35 PM

I'm waiting for P Roys team to play J tortorella's, just to see the coaches fight.....  ;)



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Posted 18 September 2013 - 07:42 AM

Well, Cory Schneider wins his first game for the Devils, against his old coach whose working for N.Y., priceless.... 



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Posted 18 September 2013 - 07:40 PM

I'm still baffled that Vigneault took that job.

Anything to stay in the game, I suppose.



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Posted 19 September 2013 - 08:28 PM

I'm still baffled that Vigneault took that job.

Anything to stay in the game, I suppose.

 

i'm still baffled that the canuck's thought AV was their problem and tortorella was the solution.



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Posted 20 September 2013 - 07:44 AM

^ Especially the 2nd part of that statement.

 

Mike, I have a hard time seeing Phoenix taking the division over Van, LA, Anaheim, and SJ.  I'd also disagree about the Metro:  Pitt, Washington, NYR, and even Columbus (gasp) will be tough.



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Posted 20 September 2013 - 05:24 PM

i was in regina this week and the Islanders were swinging out west doing preason games.  they were getting team meals in the room next to our conference.  i was riding the elevator with a bunch of kids in suits and one of them commented on the buffet being set up for our meeting and another commented "if you play in the minors free food is a good thing"  :)



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Posted 20 September 2013 - 10:41 PM

to win the divisions in regular season ( which starts tuesday!)

 

atlantic - Boston

Metropolitan - pittsburgh

Central - chicago

Pacific - anaheim



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Posted 21 September 2013 - 12:44 AM

A can't wait for the Tortorella press rants.... its gonna be a fun season in Vancouver....



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Posted 21 September 2013 - 11:10 AM

to win the divisions in regular season ( which starts tuesday!)

 

atlantic - Boston

Metropolitan - pittsburgh

Central - chicago

Pacific - anaheim

Still trying to get used to Detroit being in the East.  Makes a lot more road games watchable, but it will be interesting to see how they do with the new division alignments. 



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Posted 23 September 2013 - 10:15 PM

Hey guys/gals. New season. Good to be back

Sabres/leafs goin at it. Some suspensions I suspect

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 05:24 AM

^^Bit of an understatement, no?  Clarkson will eat 10 games automatically.  I think Kessel should get a couple for his late spear of Scott too (I thought his earlier slashes were fine).  Pssst!  Fella's!  It's the PRE-season!

 

Mark you calendars:  November 15 & 16th.  A home/home series for these two team!

 

I'd like to see more:

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 01:46 PM

As much as I love hockey, I could use a little bit more summer before the darkness of winter sets in.  But once the season starts, I'll be looking forward to playoffs in the spring.



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Posted 26 September 2013 - 11:58 PM

Ok, what fantasy pools are you in? Espn? Yahoo? ?

I tried ESPN last year ( short season ). I was in the top 15%. Pretty good league but that was my first kick at fantasy (hockey that is).

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Posted 28 September 2013 - 04:16 AM

95% Yahoo.  Still have a keeper league over at Fantrax.



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Posted 01 October 2013 - 11:02 PM

Lets go leafs. Kessel signs a big one. Hope he is worth it.

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Posted 01 October 2013 - 11:06 PM

Kessel the stick swinger??? that Kessel......

 

Big money, yes, But is he the game breaker player that should get 8 mil a season???

 

Time will tell..



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Posted 01 October 2013 - 11:29 PM

Yeah the rich stick swinger. He should have had his wrist slapped more than he did. Someone will kick his ass if he does that again.

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Posted 02 October 2013 - 12:03 AM

I do like the new icing rule, less damage to the players...



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Posted 02 October 2013 - 06:30 PM

$8M for 8 years??  Kessel has joined a pretty lofty crowd.

 

Shame to see Parros bite it so hard.  Orr looked like he thought he'd killed him when he first hit.....nasty.  Sure did silence the Habs fans.

 

GO LEAFS GO



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Posted 02 October 2013 - 09:16 PM

$8M for 8 years??  Kessel has joined a pretty lofty crowd.
 
Shame to see Parros bite it so hard.  Orr looked like he thought he'd killed him when he first hit.....nasty.  Sure did silence the Habs fans.
 
GO LEAFS GO


Highest paid leaf...........ever

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Posted 02 October 2013 - 10:11 PM

The only prediction worth noting is the riot in vancouver when the cansucks bow out early again. They'll make it to the second round this year. Maybe.

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Posted 03 October 2013 - 11:14 AM

OMG......Maple Laughs are in first place

Go Leafs Go

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Posted 03 October 2013 - 09:36 PM

the new patrick roy lasted exactly 60 minutes  :)



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Posted 03 October 2013 - 10:49 PM

Habs. A class act.

The Canadians had a practice today in Lac Magantic, Quebec today. Virtually the entire town turned out for the event. Mr. Molson, you rock today sir.

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Posted 04 October 2013 - 12:04 AM

the new patrick roy lasted exactly 60 minutes  :)


Is anyone really surprised?. Roy was a classless douche as a player, why would he be any different as a coach.

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Posted 04 October 2013 - 03:26 AM

the new patrick roy lasted exactly 60 minutes  :)


There never was a new Saint Patrick, thank heavens.

Pretty sweet win, MacKinnon ripping up a decent Anaheim D, and he's only 18?


the new patrick roy lasted exactly 60 minutes  :)

Is anyone really surprised?. Roy was a classless douche as a player, why would he be any different as a coach.

His love of the game manifests itself as white hot rage.

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Posted 04 October 2013 - 03:30 AM

the new patrick roy lasted exactly 60 minutes  :)

 

once a douche, always a douche...look for many more fines before this season is done



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Posted 04 October 2013 - 03:51 AM


the new patrick roy lasted exactly 60 minutes  :)

 
once a douche, always a douche...look for many more fines before this season is done

He may be enraged, but how many people are going to remember the name Mike Smith, for example, ten years after his goaltending career?

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Posted 04 October 2013 - 02:22 PM

 


the new patrick roy lasted exactly 60 minutes  :)

 
once a douche, always a douche...look for many more fines before this season is done

He may be enraged, but how many people are going to remember the name Mike Smith, for example, ten years after his goaltending career?

Lots of people remember Hitler too, doesn't make it good. (we are officially on the internet, a hitler reference was made in the NHL thread)

 

Roy will not last a season of he keeps that up, he will end up in a hospital. Imagine what he is going to be like in a close game.



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Posted 04 October 2013 - 02:54 PM

Never thought I'd see the Leafs at the top of the NHL standings.......



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Posted 04 October 2013 - 03:16 PM

Never thought I'd see the Leafs at the top of the NHL standings.......

Weren't they at the top last year? After 1 game.



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Posted 04 October 2013 - 04:20 PM

 

 


the new patrick roy lasted exactly 60 minutes  :)

 
once a douche, always a douche...look for many more fines before this season is done

He may be enraged, but how many people are going to remember the name Mike Smith, for example, ten years after his goaltending career?

Lots of people remember Hitler too, doesn't make it good. (we are officially on the internet, a hitler reference was made in the NHL thread)

 

Roy will not last a season of he keeps that up, he will end up in a hospital. Imagine what he is going to be like in a close game.

 

I was glad to see him defending his kids.  That was a cheap shot by the Ducks and Roy was placing blame where it belonged - on the shoulders of Boudreau.

 

Take a look - the punk Lovejoy sticks out his knee.  http://blogs.denverp...ackinnon/15001/

 

I fucking hate Roy, but good on him.

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Posted 04 October 2013 - 08:23 PM

 

 

 


the new patrick roy lasted exactly 60 minutes  :)

 
once a douche, always a douche...look for many more fines before this season is done

He may be enraged, but how many people are going to remember the name Mike Smith, for example, ten years after his goaltending career?

Lots of people remember Hitler too, doesn't make it good. (we are officially on the internet, a hitler reference was made in the NHL thread)

 

Roy will not last a season of he keeps that up, he will end up in a hospital. Imagine what he is going to be like in a close game.

 

I was glad to see him defending his kids.  That was a cheap shot by the Ducks and Roy was placing blame where it belonged - on the shoulders of Boudreau.

 

Take a look - the punk Lovejoy sticks out his knee.  http://blogs.denverp...ackinnon/15001/

 

I fucking hate Roy, but good on him.

MS

That assumes that Boudreau was behind it.  Yeah, it should have been a penalty but not deserving of Waaa's reaction.  If he can't control himself any better than that, other coaches are going to goad him into reacting and ultimately hurting his team.  Time and place for everything, as a rookie coach he needs to pick his spots. 



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Posted 05 October 2013 - 01:39 AM

 

 

 

Never a dull moment from Roy, Game one and he already loses it....  lol



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Posted 07 October 2013 - 04:08 PM

Phillie fires laviolette



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Posted 07 October 2013 - 06:14 PM

Really? Way too soon

The GM should go too. He is a dickwad for sure

"It was a gut feeling". Gezus. After 3 games.

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Posted 07 October 2013 - 06:56 PM

Really? Way too soon

The GM should go too. He is a dickwad for sure

"It was a gut feeling". Gezus. After 3 games.

 

what i never get is that they sign coaches to wextwensions and then fire them.  the TSN story said that laviolette had signed a new 2 year deal in the off season...good for laviolette.



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Posted 07 October 2013 - 09:32 PM


Really? Way too soon

The GM should go too. He is a dickwad for sure

"It was a gut feeling". Gezus. After 3 games.

 
what i never get is that they sign coaches to wextwensions and then fire them.  the TSN story said that laviolette had signed a new 2 year deal in the off season...good for laviolette.

Agreed

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Posted 08 October 2013 - 03:29 PM

Leafs.....still on top.  Any bets on tonight's game?  Will the "streak" continue?



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Posted 08 October 2013 - 04:05 PM

Yep. The Bernier wall will continue

The Matt Duchene family will have a nice reunion though despite the outcome

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Posted 09 October 2013 - 05:46 AM

was hoping the kid would get his shot this year...#4 on the night and his sixth in three games

 

wahiHvv.gif



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Posted 09 October 2013 - 11:30 AM

And so ends the Leafs perfect season!

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Posted 09 October 2013 - 12:43 PM

And so ends the Leafs perfect season!

With St. Patrick on the rage, there was only one way that game could go.

He holds grudges in a way that would make the Hatfields look churchgoing.

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Posted 09 October 2013 - 02:01 PM

Hertl has mad skills.  What a steal at #17 in the 2012 draft too.  He won't keep up this pace but should hit 50pts if he stays on the top line.  IF thats the case, he should be a shoe-in Calder candidate.



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Posted 09 October 2013 - 03:36 PM

IF someone doesn't clean his clock for hotdogging first.



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Posted 09 October 2013 - 07:01 PM

"you can't do that"

 

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=qbfjfAMJWZY



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Posted 09 October 2013 - 08:03 PM

was hoping the kid would get his shot this year...#4 on the night and his sixth in three games
 
wahiHvv.gif

I've watched that goal about fifty times now. Even if he didn't shoot it from between his legs it would have been gorgeous goal, but now it will be remembered as the siick gorgeous goal if the league until he outdoes himself again.

He's just a kid, I hope he can keep up his continued efficiency once these goalie coaches get sufficient tape on him.

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Posted 09 October 2013 - 08:09 PM

"you can't do that"
 
http://www.youtube.c...h?v=qbfjfAMJWZY


Yeah, you can't do that, especially when he was down there giving him the business!

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Posted 09 October 2013 - 08:11 PM

IF someone doesn't clean his clock for hotdogging first.


This just makes me a little sad. You're right that retribution against tall poppies seems to happen, but how much better would the game be to watch if the genuinely gifted didn't have to be careful to fly below the radar?

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Posted 09 October 2013 - 08:59 PM

The genuinely gifted don't need to embarrass their opponent in an already-runaway game.  



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Posted 09 October 2013 - 09:15 PM

The genuinely gifted don't need to embarrass their opponent in an already-runaway game.  


what? fact is, if you watch biron's head, he's following the puck and not the player, therefore if the kid tries to pull back short side it's at minimum a 70/30 chance for the goalie...between the legs throws him off and makes it a legit scoring chance with the percentages in the shooters favor. not about showboating, it's about converting chances and not about running scores up (wtf is that anyway other than an admit to defeat from the opposition) but about never letting the foot off the gas pedal. you must be a rags fan...

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Posted 09 October 2013 - 09:17 PM

and while it's way too early, if ever before retirement, in the kids career to use the term "gifted", his skill set to play in the bigs at 19 is undeniably impressive

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Posted 09 October 2013 - 10:04 PM

The genuinely gifted don't need to embarrass their opponent in an already-runaway game.  


what? fact is, if you watch biron's head, he's following the puck and not the player, therefore if the kid tries to pull back short side it's at minimum a 70/30 chance for the goalie...between the legs throws him off and makes it a legit scoring chance with the percentages in the shooters favor. not about showboating, it's about converting chances and not about running scores up (wtf is that anyway other than an admit to defeat from the opposition) but about never letting the foot off the gas pedal. you must be a rags fan...

 

I think the gifted should use their gifts.  as much as i hate the current sports commentator standard "are you kidding me", the more "are you kidding me" moments the better.  say what what you will about the sedin twins but those motherfukers produce a lot of those moments...henrik has the ability to put the puck in places no one else can.



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Posted 10 October 2013 - 12:49 AM

The genuinely gifted don't need to embarrass their opponent in an already-runaway game.  

 

Yeah, but that goal was freaking beautiful. Why not let the game be as exciting as the genuinely gifted want to make it?

 

Also, I remember a game two years ago that had Detroit (if memory serves) down by four goals which them made up in just a few minutes for the shootout.



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Posted 10 October 2013 - 04:30 AM

 

The genuinely gifted don't need to embarrass their opponent in an already-runaway game.  


what? fact is, if you watch biron's head, he's following the puck and not the player, therefore if the kid tries to pull back short side it's at minimum a 70/30 chance for the goalie...between the legs throws him off and makes it a legit scoring chance with the percentages in the shooters favor. not about showboating, it's about converting chances and not about running scores up (wtf is that anyway other than an admit to defeat from the opposition) but about never letting the foot off the gas pedal. you must be a rags fan...

 

I think the gifted should use their gifts.  as much as i hate the current sports commentator standard "are you kidding me", the more "are you kidding me" moments the better.  say what what you will about the sedin twins but those motherfukers produce a lot of those moments...henrik has the ability to put the puck in places no one else can.

 

Hmmm...  Like this?

 

The pass is almost as pretty as the goal.



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Posted 10 October 2013 - 05:57 PM

 

The genuinely gifted don't need to embarrass their opponent in an already-runaway game.  


what? fact is, if you watch biron's head, he's following the puck and not the player, therefore if the kid tries to pull back short side it's at minimum a 70/30 chance for the goalie...between the legs throws him off and makes it a legit scoring chance with the percentages in the shooters favor. not about showboating, it's about converting chances and not about running scores up (wtf is that anyway other than an admit to defeat from the opposition) but about never letting the foot off the gas pedal. you must be a rags fan...

 

I think the gifted should use their gifts.  as much as i hate the current sports commentator standard "are you kidding me", the more "are you kidding me" moments the better.  say what what you will about the sedin twins but those motherfukers produce a lot of those moments...henrik has the ability to put the puck in places no one else can.

Until the playoffs....



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Posted 10 October 2013 - 06:51 PM

For the record:  not a rangers fan.   at all.

 

Why not let hotdogs be hotdogs?

Why not run the score up as high as possible?

 

Because kids pay attention to this stuff, they absorb it like some freakish sponge and and it affects their entire approach to the game. 

 

Even the little stupid stuff is completely infectious.  How long did it take for EVERY SINGLE KID to start taping their stick like Ovechkin?   A month?



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Posted 10 October 2013 - 08:00 PM

and also...i'm not sure what was hotdoggy about it.  as the TSN panel pointed out, the through your legs shot happens a lot now;  as they also pointed out, the rangers gave up a break away...what was the guy supposed to do shoot it into the corner? hand it to a ranger?  8-2 or not the rangers need to keep playing AND the kid didn't celebrate that exuberantly, he is after all a rookie and scoring his first goals in the league, he didn't taunt.  so the rangers, give the kid a break, he makes a move that most high skill forwards can make, scores and gives a big smile and an arm pump...if the rangers don't want a ninth goal, they should have played better.



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Posted 10 October 2013 - 08:22 PM

...  8-2 or not the rangers need to keep playing AND the kid didn't celebrate that exuberantly, he is after all a rookie and scoring his first goals in the league, he didn't taunt.  so the rangers, give the kid a break, he makes a move that most high skill forwards can make, scores and gives a big smile and an arm pump...if the rangers don't want a ninth goal, they should have played better.

 

On this, I agree completely.



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Posted 10 October 2013 - 08:46 PM

The kid has the support of his captain:

 

Thornton provided an R-rated answer when asked how he would celebrate if he were to score four goals in a single game like rookie teammate Hertl did Tuesday.

“I’d have my c— out if I scored four goals. I’d have my c— out, stroking it,” Thornton said.



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Posted 11 October 2013 - 12:02 AM

For the record:  not a rangers fan.   at all.

 

Why not let hotdogs be hotdogs?

Why not run the score up as high as possible?

 

Because kids pay attention to this stuff, they absorb it like some freakish sponge and and it affects their entire approach to the game. 

 

Even the little stupid stuff is completely infectious.  How long did it take for EVERY SINGLE KID to start taping their stick like Ovechkin?   A month?

 

Really!!??  Your soapbox is about hotdogging and stick taping?!  Terrible stuff, that!

 

Want to bitch about something that kids watch?  How about the incessant whining to the refs after most calls, cue Sidney Crosby who is slightly more visible then the SJ rookie.  Or, how about the strong showing of sportsmanship every time a player breaks their stick on the net, boards or ice in anger?  Or, how about the need for retribution after EVERY clean hit?  Or, how about coaches acting like jackasses behind the bench, cue HOF member Patrick Roy.



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Posted 11 October 2013 - 02:09 AM

For the record:  not a rangers fan.   at all.

 

Why not let hotdogs be hotdogs?

Why not run the score up as high as possible?

 

Because kids pay attention to this stuff, they absorb it like some freakish sponge and and it affects their entire approach to the game. 

 

Even the little stupid stuff is completely infectious.  How long did it take for EVERY SINGLE KID to start taping their stick like Ovechkin?   A month?

 

with all due respect, i think you're completely missing the mark with your concerns.

 

"because kids absorb it"? absorb another kid using skill and smarts to score? darn right they do and every coach from pee wees up is hoping to tap into that absorption and make it a part of his team. it's not like he hung from the rim of the hoop and rubbed his package in the defenders face. it's not like he tackled the wide receiver after a catch and jumped up doing the snuffalupagus dance. he simply used what he had in his bag of moves, did his job, fist bumped his teammates, and went back to work. looks like sound hockey to me. do you remember in the mid 90's when mike legg from mich u. scored that amazing lacrosse style goal from behind the net? some people cried foul, others touted it as the next best thing, and everybody who played the game (especially the youngsters) was practicing that move. has that been detrimental to the game or altered players negatively? nope. it could be argued that it has actually helped younger players by sharpening their stick skills. how many are actually successful at the move? very few, but how many can stick handle better than they could before? just about every one who worked on it. the same can be said for drawing it back and shooting from between the legs

 

as for this whole running the score up, i'm sorry but this is a competitive sport played by professionals, not ayso soccer. the rangers themselves told the press after the game "WE embarrassed ourselves", not "the sharks ran the score up". not one, but two goalies and four lines of players that night for ny were unable to stop the attack of the other team...a team that has a very long history of sitting flatly on a two goal lead, very often leading to a one goal loss. nhl coaches will never tell their players to let up because it's not only poor fundamentals of hockey but it also is proven to cause injuries...you simply do not play this game at anything but 100%.

 

the losing mentality is one that complains about the circumstances or the outcome, the winning mentality looks inside itself for the answers of their failure... it's good to see the rangers have a winning mentality



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Posted 11 October 2013 - 02:35 AM

Leafs back on top. That's a winning mentality




For now

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Posted 11 October 2013 - 04:25 AM

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Leafs back on top. That's a winning mentality




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Hey, I think the leafs are for real.  I think burke is looking good: the kessel trade now is officially a leaf win. Jvr, Kari, Boland, Bernier...they are fun to watch.  The oilers on the other hand....



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Posted 11 October 2013 - 06:24 AM

For the record:  not a rangers fan.   at all.

 

Why not let hotdogs be hotdogs?

Why not run the score up as high as possible?

 

Because kids pay attention to this stuff, they absorb it like some freakish sponge and and it affects their entire approach to the game. 

 

Even the little stupid stuff is completely infectious.  How long did it take for EVERY SINGLE KID to start taping their stick like Ovechkin?   A month?

 

Really!!??  Your soapbox is about hotdogging and stick taping?!  Terrible stuff, that!

 

Want to bitch about something that kids watch?  How about the incessant whining to the refs after most calls, cue Sidney Crosby who is slightly more visible then the SJ rookie.  Or, how about the strong showing of sportsmanship every time a player breaks their stick on the net, boards or ice in anger?  Or, how about the need for retribution after EVERY clean hit?  Or, how about coaches acting like jackasses behind the bench, cue HOF member Patrick Roy.

 

I get that Roy is easy to hate if you're not an Avs fan, but Is this the beginning of a new thing, nailing the St. Patrick every time he gets mad? He didn't realize the glass was that loose and his anger was justified, at least in my homercentricity.

 

So far his skills as a Juniors coach seem to translate to the NHL. Can't he just be Roy? Is his high emotion on the bench really anywhere close to the threat of Jacques Lemaire's Ambien-inspired era of neutral traps? What's wrong with people getting emotional? At least he likes to see the puck keep moving, what's the problem? He's an exciting coach, if Hitch and Julien aren't a threat to the hockey gods then Roy isn't one either.



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Posted 11 October 2013 - 02:04 PM

Really!!??  Your soapbox is about hotdogging and stick taping?!  Terrible stuff, that!

 

Want to bitch about something that kids watch?  How about the incessant whining to the refs after most calls, cue Sidney Crosby who is slightly more visible then the SJ rookie.  Or, how about the strong showing of sportsmanship every time a player breaks their stick on the net, boards or ice in anger?  Or, how about the need for retribution after EVERY clean hit?  Or, how about coaches acting like jackasses behind the bench, cue HOF member Patrick Roy.

My point with the stick taping thing was that even the little insignificant little details which nonetheless get internalized and re-enacted by the kids.   The larger more significant elements of conduct moreso.

I agree wholeheartedly with your second paragraph.

 

( though the stick breaking thing usually only happens ONCE with the kids, who quickly get the "if I ever see you break your stick in anger again you'll be picking $200 carbonfiber splinters out of your ass for a week" lecture)

 

 

as for this whole running the score up, i'm sorry but this is a competitive sport played by professionals, not ayso soccer. the rangers themselves told the press after the game "WE embarrassed ourselves", not "the sharks ran the score up". not one, but two goalies and four lines of players that night for ny were unable to stop the attack of the other team...a team that has a very long history of sitting flatly on a two goal lead, very often leading to a one goal loss. nhl coaches will never tell their players to let up because it's not only poor fundamentals of hockey but it also is proven to cause injuries...you simply do not play this game at anything but 100%.

You have a point there.



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Posted 11 October 2013 - 02:50 PM

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Leafs back on top. That's a winning mentality




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Hey, I think the leafs are for real.  I think burke is looking good: the kessel trade now is officially a leaf win. Jvr, Kari, Boland, Bernier...they are fun to watch.  The oilers on the other hand....

 

Bernier looks solid!!  Kessel just needs to stay consistent.  How do they fix Phaneuf??  



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Posted 11 October 2013 - 03:21 PM

 

For the record:  not a rangers fan.   at all.

 

Why not let hotdogs be hotdogs?

Why not run the score up as high as possible?

 

Because kids pay attention to this stuff, they absorb it like some freakish sponge and and it affects their entire approach to the game. 

 

Even the little stupid stuff is completely infectious.  How long did it take for EVERY SINGLE KID to start taping their stick like Ovechkin?   A month?

 

Really!!??  Your soapbox is about hotdogging and stick taping?!  Terrible stuff, that!

 

Want to bitch about something that kids watch?  How about the incessant whining to the refs after most calls, cue Sidney Crosby who is slightly more visible then the SJ rookie.  Or, how about the strong showing of sportsmanship every time a player breaks their stick on the net, boards or ice in anger?  Or, how about the need for retribution after EVERY clean hit?  Or, how about coaches acting like jackasses behind the bench, cue HOF member Patrick Roy.

 

I get that Roy is easy to hate if you're not an Avs fan, but Is this the beginning of a new thing, nailing the St. Patrick every time he gets mad? He didn't realize the glass was that loose and his anger was justified, at least in my homercentricity.

 

So far his skills as a Juniors coach seem to translate to the NHL. Can't he just be Roy? Is his high emotion on the bench really anywhere close to the threat of Jacques Lemaire's Ambien-inspired era of neutral traps? What's wrong with people getting emotional? At least he likes to see the puck keep moving, what's the problem? He's an exciting coach, if Hitch and Julien aren't a threat to the hockey gods then Roy isn't one either.

 

Mike, I have no beef with Roy.  He was just the most recent example to illustrate my point.  I'm sure he'll be a fine NHL coach.  He's already done wonders with Varlamov by insisting he have a goalie coach and then providing Allarie (sp).  Now, if he just stay healthy enough to play 65 games.

 

though the stick breaking thing usually only happens ONCE with the kids, who quickly get the "if I ever see you break your stick in anger again you'll be picking $200 carbonfiber splinters out of your ass for a week" lecture

 

:lol:  



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Posted 11 October 2013 - 06:51 PM

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Hey, I think the leafs are for real.  I think burke is looking good: the kessel trade now is officially a leaf win. Jvr, Kari, Boland, Bernier...they are fun to watch.  The oilers on the other hand....

 

Bernier looks solid!!  Kessel just needs to stay consistent.  How do they fix Phaneuf??  

i think Kessel is pretty consistent.  there is no fixing Dion...that's what he is: one game/period/minute he's slapping in a goal/laying someone out/looking like a hero the next he's getting caught on the pinch and looking like a goat.



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Posted 11 October 2013 - 07:23 PM

 

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For now

Hey, I think the leafs are for real.  I think burke is looking good: the kessel trade now is officially a leaf win. Jvr, Kari, Boland, Bernier...they are fun to watch.  The oilers on the other hand....

 

Bernier looks solid!!  Kessel just needs to stay consistent.  How do they fix Phaneuf??  

i think Kessel is pretty consistent.  there is no fixing Dion...that's what he is: one game/period/minute he's slapping in a goal/laying someone out/looking like a hero the next he's getting caught on the pinch and looking like a goat.

 

I only hope Kessel stays consistent.  He's a pretty streaky player and the media loves to jump on that.  As for Dion......agree he's a star and then the goat.....but why does it look like he's never really trying?  Drive me nuts!



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Posted 12 October 2013 - 01:10 PM

Roy is a real hardass with the glass in between them. He proved more then once that a guy 6 inches shorter and 40 pounds lighter can kick his ass. I say take the partitions down and see how he acts.



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Posted 12 October 2013 - 02:48 PM

Roy is a real hardass with the glass in between them. He proved more then once that a guy 6 inches shorter and 40 pounds lighter can kick his ass. I say take the partitions down and see how he acts.


You're looking at this wrong China.

See, it's like this ... we're now used regular fights, and once in a blue moon we get to see a goalie fight. But Roy and Boudreau are now working together to bring this to the next level, the long sought coaches fight. Once it becomes normal, and we're used to seeing coaches punching each other up in their Christian Dior suits, then after another decade we'll get to see the super-elusive OWNERS fight. Two Brooks Brothers uniformed guys, say, Ilitch and Kroenke, beating each other up in the bank lobby with their body guards standing around keeping the bank guards away.

Anyway, in the video, Boudreau wasn't exactly being picked on by Roy, he was screaming at him too and came up to the other side of the glass, had he hit harder than Roy, the glass would have fell on Roy instead of the other way around.

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 03:01 PM

Roy is a real hardass with the glass in between them. He proved more then once that a guy 6 inches shorter and 40 pounds lighter can kick his ass. I say take the partitions down and see how he acts.


You're looking at this wrong China.

See, it's like this ... we're now used regular fights, and once in a blue moon we get to see a goalie fight. But Roy and Boudreau are now working together to bring this to the next level, the long sought coaches fight. Once it becomes normal, and we're used to seeing coaches punching each other up in their Christian Dior suits, then after another decade we'll get to see the super-elusive OWNERS fight. Two Brooks Brothers uniformed guys, say, Ilitch and Kroenke, beating each other up in the bank lobby with their body guards standing around keeping the bank guards away.

Anyway, in the video, Boudreau wasn't exactly being picked on by Roy, he was screaming at him too and came up to the other side of the glass, had he hit harder than Roy, the glass would have fell on Roy instead of the other way around.

Roy was mouthing off to Perry a player and Boudreau told him to STFU.

 

Mike Babcock would kick Roys ass and still have nicer looking hair after the fight.



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Posted 12 October 2013 - 05:02 PM

I'm not a P. Roy fan at all, but if hes in a fight, I'm betting on him...   ;)



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Posted 12 October 2013 - 05:25 PM

 

Roy is a real hardass with the glass in between them. He proved more then once that a guy 6 inches shorter and 40 pounds lighter can kick his ass. I say take the partitions down and see how he acts.


You're looking at this wrong China.

See, it's like this ... we're now used regular fights, and once in a blue moon we get to see a goalie fight. But Roy and Boudreau are now working together to bring this to the next level, the long sought coaches fight. Once it becomes normal, and we're used to seeing coaches punching each other up in their Christian Dior suits, then after another decade we'll get to see the super-elusive OWNERS fight. Two Brooks Brothers uniformed guys, say, Ilitch and Kroenke, beating each other up in the bank lobby with their body guards standing around keeping the bank guards away.

Anyway, in the video, Boudreau wasn't exactly being picked on by Roy, he was screaming at him too and came up to the other side of the glass, had he hit harder than Roy, the glass would have fell on Roy instead of the other way around.

Roy was mouthing off to Perry a player and Boudreau told him to STFU.

 

Mike Babcock would kick Roys ass and still have nicer looking hair after the fight.

 

Still thinking small time, China. The whole coaches' fight is passe, the question is if Pizza Man Ilitch could take on Cowboy Kroenke.

 

The real action is with the owners, China.

 

My money might be on Ted Leonsis, after surviving an airplane crash, a bunch of fists would feel just like a pillow fight. But then Charles Wang probably knows some Kung Fu, having grown up in the rough streets of Shanghai. But James Dolan is going to be a favorite in the owner's fight bracket, that dude has a temper that could probably have him take on actual enforcers, let alone other owners.



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Posted 12 October 2013 - 07:03 PM

AV's 4-0, Roy must be doing something right.  Caps are going to be interesting though, varly going home and all that.  Mckinnon is showing he can play with the big boys.  Good stuff.  Hawks aren't doing too bad ether.  My hocky life is good so far.....



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Posted 12 October 2013 - 10:52 PM

The season is TWELVE DAYS OLD.  77-79 games left depending on the team.  Lets revisit this who's doing what conversation after the first of the year and then in April.



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Posted 13 October 2013 - 12:12 AM

The season is TWELVE DAYS OLD.  77-79 games left depending on the team.  Lets revisit this who's doing what conversation after the first of the year and then in April.



Yawn

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Posted 13 October 2013 - 12:53 AM

The season is TWELVE DAYS OLD.  77-79 games left depending on the team.  Lets revisit this who's doing what conversation after the first of the year and then in April.



Yawn

:)  :)  the leafs are in first!!! 2 weeks in or not, the leafs are in first! :D  :D



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Posted 13 October 2013 - 09:09 PM

I'm not a P. Roy fan at all, but if hes in a fight, I'm betting on him...   ;)

I don't know, Mike Vernon bloodied him fairly well. 



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Posted 13 October 2013 - 10:04 PM

I'm not a P. Roy fan at all, but if hes in a fight, I'm betting on him...   ;)

I don't know, Mike Vernon bloodied him fairly well. 

 

Evened it out with Osgood.



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Posted 15 October 2013 - 11:50 AM

So what's up with the Oilers? Will the coach see the beginning of Movember?

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Posted 15 October 2013 - 01:39 PM

So what's up with the Oilers? Will the coach see the beginning of Movember?

 

They desperately need a goalie and some D.  Dubnyk has been horrible and that's being generous.  I was reading an article yesterday about how the equipment changes for goalies has put the zap on his brain.  He'd better figure it out, pronto!

 

Another concern is Yakupov.  His lack of output blows (thus b2b healthy scratches) but the bigger issue is crap attitude: 

 

"You can say a million words about getting better but coach says I'm not playing, so I'm not playing. I'm not happy about it. I just want to play every game. I'm going to play my game. I'm not going to change but maybe play better without the puck, or forecheck more, but I love playing with the puck. I really don't like skating all the time, and forechecking, and hitting somebody every shift. I don't think it's my game."

 

Solid professional reasoning there, Brohammad!  :rolleyes:

 

If he doesn't jump on board soon, he's outta there!  Nice bargaining chip for a new goalie?  Rumors are already swirling about a TOR/EDM deal.



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Posted 15 October 2013 - 01:46 PM

 

The season is TWELVE DAYS OLD.  77-79 games left depending on the team.  Lets revisit this who's doing what conversation after the first of the year and then in April.



Yawn

:)  :)  the leafs are in first!!! 2 weeks in or not, the leafs are in first! :D  :D

+1000



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Posted 15 October 2013 - 02:25 PM

 

I'm not a P. Roy fan at all, but if hes in a fight, I'm betting on him...   ;)

I don't know, Mike Vernon bloodied him fairly well. 

 

Evened it out with Osgood.

If by evened it out you mean fought to at best a draw with another guy who is 40 pounds smaller then him, then yeah.



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Posted 15 October 2013 - 03:01 PM

So what's up with the Oilers? Will the coach see the beginning of Movember?

 

They desperately need a goalie and some D.  Dubnyk has been horrible and that's being generous.  I was reading an article yesterday about how the equipment changes for goalies has put the zap on his brain.  He'd better figure it out, pronto!

 

Another concern is Yakupov.  His lack of output blows (thus b2b healthy scratches) but the bigger issue is crap attitude: 

 

"You can say a million words about getting better but coach says I'm not playing, so I'm not playing. I'm not happy about it. I just want to play every game. I'm going to play my game. I'm not going to change but maybe play better without the puck, or forecheck more, but I love playing with the puck. I really don't like skating all the time, and forechecking, and hitting somebody every shift. I don't think it's my game."

 

Solid professional reasoning there, Brohammad!  :rolleyes:

 

If he doesn't jump on board soon, he's outta there!  Nice bargaining chip for a new goalie?  Rumors are already swirling about a TOR/EDM deal.

 

yup.  the oilers are a team that MUST HAVE a super goalie.  all there guys want to play offence...that means getting caught and that means they need a guy who bails them out more often than not and that's not dubnyk by the look of it.  I'm not sure they can or should fire eakins.  i think they need to toss Lowe.  they were so bad for so long and the draft in those years was so good that a monkey could have drafted great players  but Lowe hasn't been able to develop or find the goalie, stay at home d or 3rd line guys that can keep the other team off the score board long enough for the forwards to score.



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Posted 15 October 2013 - 03:47 PM

 

So what's up with the Oilers? Will the coach see the beginning of Movember?

 

They desperately need a goalie and some D.  Dubnyk has been horrible and that's being generous.  I was reading an article yesterday about how the equipment changes for goalies has put the zap on his brain.  He'd better figure it out, pronto!

 

Another concern is Yakupov.  His lack of output blows (thus b2b healthy scratches) but the bigger issue is crap attitude: 

 

"You can say a million words about getting better but coach says I'm not playing, so I'm not playing. I'm not happy about it. I just want to play every game. I'm going to play my game. I'm not going to change but maybe play better without the puck, or forecheck more, but I love playing with the puck. I really don't like skating all the time, and forechecking, and hitting somebody every shift. I don't think it's my game."

 

Solid professional reasoning there, Brohammad!  :rolleyes:

 

If he doesn't jump on board soon, he's outta there!  Nice bargaining chip for a new goalie?  Rumors are already swirling about a TOR/EDM deal.

 

yup.  the oilers are a team that MUST HAVE a super goalie.  all there guys want to play offence...that means getting caught and that means they need a guy who bails them out more often than not and that's not dubnyk by the look of it.  I'm not sure they can or should fire eakins.  i think they need to toss Lowe.  they were so bad for so long and the draft in those years was so good that a monkey could have drafted great players  but Lowe hasn't been able to develop or find the goalie, stay at home d or 3rd line guys that can keep the other team off the score board long enough for the forwards to score.

I'll trade Dion to EDM for $6 and a bag of pucks



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Posted 15 October 2013 - 05:51 PM

 

 

So what's up with the Oilers? Will the coach see the beginning of Movember?

 

They desperately need a goalie and some D.  Dubnyk has been horrible and that's being generous.  I was reading an article yesterday about how the equipment changes for goalies has put the zap on his brain.  He'd better figure it out, pronto!

 

Another concern is Yakupov.  His lack of output blows (thus b2b healthy scratches) but the bigger issue is crap attitude: 

 

"You can say a million words about getting better but coach says I'm not playing, so I'm not playing. I'm not happy about it. I just want to play every game. I'm going to play my game. I'm not going to change but maybe play better without the puck, or forecheck more, but I love playing with the puck. I really don't like skating all the time, and forechecking, and hitting somebody every shift. I don't think it's my game."

 

Solid professional reasoning there, Brohammad!  :rolleyes:

 

If he doesn't jump on board soon, he's outta there!  Nice bargaining chip for a new goalie?  Rumors are already swirling about a TOR/EDM deal.

 

yup.  the oilers are a team that MUST HAVE a super goalie.  all there guys want to play offence...that means getting caught and that means they need a guy who bails them out more often than not and that's not dubnyk by the look of it.  I'm not sure they can or should fire eakins.  i think they need to toss Lowe.  they were so bad for so long and the draft in those years was so good that a monkey could have drafted great players  but Lowe hasn't been able to develop or find the goalie, stay at home d or 3rd line guys that can keep the other team off the score board long enough for the forwards to score.

I'll trade Dion to EDM for $6 and a bag of pucks

phaneuf standing in net and scowling might be as effective as dubnyk at this point...he has a world class scowl if nothing else...oh and he's banging elisha cuthbert



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Posted 15 October 2013 - 06:06 PM

If by evened it out you mean fought to at best a draw with another guy who is 40 pounds smaller then him, then yeah.

okay, I'll accept a draw, and pass on the wisdom of leaving the crease if a goalie didn't want to fight ...

But it was also a comment on the relative career achievements of each.

Now, mention Hasek, and you would have a different kind of argument. One can functionally compare Roy and Hasek in a way that is difficult to compare Roy and Osgood, except for a little scrap one time.

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Posted 15 October 2013 - 06:35 PM

 

So what's up with the Oilers? Will the coach see the beginning of Movember?

 

They desperately need a goalie and some D.  Dubnyk has been horrible and that's being generous.  I was reading an article yesterday about how the equipment changes for goalies has put the zap on his brain.  He'd better figure it out, pronto!

 

Another concern is Yakupov.  His lack of output blows (thus b2b healthy scratches) but the bigger issue is crap attitude: 

 

"You can say a million words about getting better but coach says I'm not playing, so I'm not playing. I'm not happy about it. I just want to play every game. I'm going to play my game. I'm not going to change but maybe play better without the puck, or forecheck more, but I love playing with the puck. I really don't like skating all the time, and forechecking, and hitting somebody every shift. I don't think it's my game."

 

Solid professional reasoning there, Brohammad!  :rolleyes:

 

If he doesn't jump on board soon, he's outta there!  Nice bargaining chip for a new goalie?  Rumors are already swirling about a TOR/EDM deal.

 

yup.  the oilers are a team that MUST HAVE a super goalie.  all there guys want to play offence...that means getting caught and that means they need a guy who bails them out more often than not and that's not dubnyk by the look of it.  I'm not sure they can or should fire eakins.  i think they need to toss Lowe.  they were so bad for so long and the draft in those years was so good that a monkey could have drafted great players  but Lowe hasn't been able to develop or find the goalie, stay at home d or 3rd line guys that can keep the other team off the score board long enough for the forwards to score.

 

Lowe and MacT, IMHO, shit the bed when they didn't land Schneider from the Nucks.  Granted the price would have been huge for a divisional rival, but they have SO MANY young players to use as trade bait.  Not really sure how they're going to hold onto them all come this summer.  According to capgeek, they will have twelve currently rostered players under contract going into next summer.  Schultz will get a nice raise but after that....?

 

Edit:  ....or Bernier for that matter!



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Posted 15 October 2013 - 11:11 PM


 


 


So what's up with the Oilers? Will the coach see the beginning of Movember?

 
They desperately need a goalie and some D.  Dubnyk has been horrible and that's being generous.  I was reading an article yesterday about how the equipment changes for goalies has put the zap on his brain.  He'd better figure it out, pronto!
 
Another concern is Yakupov.  His lack of output blows (thus b2b healthy scratches) but the bigger issue is crap attitude: 
 
"You can say a million words about getting better but coach says I'm not playing, so I'm not playing. I'm not happy about it. I just want to play every game. I'm going to play my game. I'm not going to change but maybe play better without the puck, or forecheck more, but I love playing with the puck. I really don't like skating all the time, and forechecking, and hitting somebody every shift. I don't think it's my game."
 
Solid professional reasoning there, Brohammad!  :rolleyes:
 
If he doesn't jump on board soon, he's outta there!  Nice bargaining chip for a new goalie?  Rumors are already swirling about a TOR/EDM deal.
 
yup.  the oilers are a team that MUST HAVE a super goalie.  all there guys want to play offence...that means getting caught and that means they need a guy who bails them out more often than not and that's not dubnyk by the look of it.  I'm not sure they can or should fire eakins.  i think they need to toss Lowe.  they were so bad for so long and the draft in those years was so good that a monkey could have drafted great players  but Lowe hasn't been able to develop or find the goalie, stay at home d or 3rd line guys that can keep the other team off the score board long enough for the forwards to score.
I'll trade Dion to EDM for $6 and a bag of pucks
phaneuf standing in net and scowling might be as effective as dubnyk at this point...he has a world class scowl if nothing else...oh and he's banging elisha cuthbert

Not banging her anymore..........the're married




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