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#101 basildog

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Posted 23 October 2013 - 08:54 AM

I'd give my left testicle to own any of Ian Farrier's boats - aw buggar it I'd donate both testicles to own one.

 

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Posted 23 October 2013 - 10:32 AM

well don't just give 'em up like that, you could get a 2nd or 3rd hand boat for under $50k,



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Posted 23 October 2013 - 11:21 AM

I wrote this for Sailworld last year but missed the deadline. The topic was trailer sailing.  I figured I'd post it here for your entertainment, somewhat relevant to this topic...somewhat off topic.

 

My name is Ed Sinofsky. I live on Cape Cod with my wife Jean. I’ve been sailing for over 40 years but only recently got a trailerable multihull.  For the last few decades I mostly windsurfed.

 

Now our family pride and joy is GlowBoat, our Corsair 24 Mark II. The boat is a 1999 model that we bought in 2006, with the help of Bob Gleason from the Multihull Source.

 

This little trimaran does everything for us. It’s a race boat, relax boat, floating swim platform, and sometimes even love nest. She’s moored on Lewis Bay, near Hyannis, but we’ve only had that mooring for two years. Up until then we dry sailed it. We would launch it every time we sailed.

 

For 4 years I got a lot of practice trailering and setting up the boat.  We trailered her down to Stonington CT for the Off Soundings series, Newport for many regattas, and over the Cape bridges for the annual Buzzards Bay regatta.  I can launch and rig in 20 minutes, 40 if it is a spinnaker race.

 

Two years ago my wife Jean said to me “Ed you’re racing too damn much, take me sailing.”

 

My friend Mike Utley joined us at the launch ramp near the hospital in Hyannis at 9 AM. We were on our way to Martha’s Vineyard by 945, or so. We had a beautiful sail with a Southeast wind which is a beam reach to the Vineyard. The wind was blowing 10 to 12 and we were going to 8-10 knots. When we reached Vineyard Haven we turned around and went back to Hyannis.

 

We got back to the launch ramp and unrigged her.  Within the hour, I was at home having an old man nap at 2:30.  It doesn’t get any better than that.

 

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Posted 23 October 2013 - 11:24 AM

Nuddy, just an observation, Farrier is the benchmark for cruiser racer and yes there are dedicated racers, but swing the other way to pure cruisers and there is nothing ! You are left with the Searunners, Pivers, Horstmans and Cross boats of decades past.

A definite niche for a budding designer.

RR

No market for a pure cruising tri. The cats have that market tied up.



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Posted 23 October 2013 - 11:28 AM

well don't just give 'em up like that, you could get a 2nd or 3rd hand boat for under $50k,

Actually a lot less than that for a Trailertri 680, 720 or Tramp.



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Posted 23 October 2013 - 07:34 PM

Racing can be fun, and high speeds can sure be exhilarating, but it is also hard to beat this video of Southern Californian sailing that's just come in from Dan Beiley:

 

http://www.farrierma...byDanBeiley.mov

 

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Posted 24 October 2013 - 07:47 AM

Nuddy, just an observation, Farrier is the benchmark for cruiser racer and yes there are dedicated racers, but swing the other way to pure cruisers and there is nothing ! You are left with the Searunners, Pivers, Horstmans and Cross boats of decades past.

A definite niche for a budding designer.

RR

No market for a pure cruising tri. The cats have that market tied up.

Not under 9m they don't, cats under that size are like living in 2 sewer pipes, whereas a tri can give a much more liveable space if not enslaved to the racer/cruiser formula.

Admittedly it's a small niche but one that was full in the past and is now pretty much vacant unless you go for a 30-40yo design/boat.



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Posted 24 October 2013 - 09:30 AM

 

Nuddy, just an observation, Farrier is the benchmark for cruiser racer and yes there are dedicated racers, but swing the other way to pure cruisers and there is nothing ! You are left with the Searunners, Pivers, Horstmans and Cross boats of decades past.

A definite niche for a budding designer.

RR

No market for a pure cruising tri. The cats have that market tied up.

Not under 9m they don't, cats under that size are like living in 2 sewer pipes, whereas a tri can give a much more liveable space if not enslaved to the racer/cruiser formula.

Admittedly it's a small niche but one that was full in the past and is now pretty much vacant unless you go for a 30-40yo design/boat.

well there are some at 35 feet like Dragonfly 35 ... and also 1200 .. and some more.. 



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Posted 25 October 2013 - 01:29 AM

 

Nuddy, just an observation, Farrier is the benchmark for cruiser racer and yes there are dedicated racers, but swing the other way to pure cruisers and there is nothing ! You are left with the Searunners, Pivers, Horstmans and Cross boats of decades past.

A definite niche for a budding designer.

RR

No market for a pure cruising tri. The cats have that market tied up.

Not under 9m they don't, cats under that size are like living in 2 sewer pipes, whereas a tri can give a much more liveable space if not enslaved to the racer/cruiser formula.

Admittedly it's a small niche but one that was full in the past and is now pretty much vacant unless you go for a 30-40yo design/boat.

I don't think Richard Woods would agree with you on that at all.



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Posted 25 October 2013 - 04:46 AM

Someone should tell tirade they should not be doing so well in the coastal classic in NZ



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Posted 25 October 2013 - 06:02 AM

Someone should tell tirade they should not be doing so well in the coastal classic in NZ

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Posted 25 October 2013 - 07:48 PM

err, he must have read this thread :mellow:



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Posted 25 October 2013 - 10:07 PM

Nuddy, just an observation, Farrier is the benchmark for cruiser racer and yes there are dedicated racers, but swing the other way to pure cruisers and there is nothing ! You are left with the Searunners, Pivers, Horstmans and Cross boats of decades past.
A definite niche for a budding designer.
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No market for a pure cruising tri. The cats have that market tied up.

Actually, thinking about this again. No market for a pure cruising Tri because Farriers do cruising so well. Why would anyone want a lower performance Tri that does cruising no better. So the budding designer would be trying to compete for the Farrier market. For example compare the new Corsair Cruze 970 with the F32.

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Posted 27 October 2013 - 01:04 AM

Farrier's are practical boats. You can use them for a broad spectrum of purposes. I've hauled mine to Lake Tahoe to camp under the stars in Emerald Bay. I slept inside and was warm and comfortable. My crew slept in a bag on the net and liked that too. Two days later we raced in the Trans Tahoe that was hit with a squall that had gusts to 35 knots. Of the fleet of 35 boats that entered, 5 finished. Two of these were 24's. Ross Stein in Origami was First and Gaijin was second (Overall). We passed a Farr 36 with a busload of guys on the rail on a screaming reach to the finish (We were the ones screaming). We've trailered to LA for the Summer Splash to Catalina, and did three Double-Handed Farallones races too. 19.8 knots has been our top speed so far. I can also take 6 adults out for a sunset cruise under main only. Wine and cheese for all. I've also taken toddlers out to watch the see lions with them standing on the bunk in the bow and their heads sticking safely out of the hatch. You can't beat OTUSA, but if you live in the real world, you've got to get practical at some point in your life. Sorry for the length of this. I love my boat. Pete F24 #314 "Gaijin"

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Posted 27 October 2013 - 03:12 AM

Amen




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