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#1 NZL4EVER

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Posted 27 September 2013 - 04:02 AM

New just breaking in New Zealand.



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Posted 27 September 2013 - 04:07 AM

If the report pans out, it is one H*ll of a surprise.



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Posted 27 September 2013 - 04:11 AM

A real club from a real sailing power. I like it.

Puts an interesting twist on the Spithill/Ainslee issue.

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Posted 27 September 2013 - 04:11 AM

New York times broke the news



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Posted 27 September 2013 - 04:15 AM

http://www.nytimes.c...ref=sports&_r=0

 



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Posted 27 September 2013 - 04:15 AM

Oh no not those kangaroo fuckers :)

 

I figured I would get the ball rolling :) :)



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Posted 27 September 2013 - 04:17 AM

New York Times published this 32

minutes ago



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Posted 27 September 2013 - 04:17 AM

Reports have propagated from this NYT article tonight.

http://www.nytimes.c...ericas-cup.html

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Posted 27 September 2013 - 04:19 AM

and we're off........



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Posted 27 September 2013 - 04:21 AM

Interesting. So then JS goes to lead the Aussie team, RC goes back to lead TNZ and BA heads up OR. Nice. Alinghi is hired to clean the toilets and sell T-shirts.

 

I like it.



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Posted 27 September 2013 - 04:23 AM

Well Ernesto did just compete at Hamilton Island Race Week. Perhaps he's bankrolling it?



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Posted 27 September 2013 - 04:23 AM

^^^^^you guys are slippin'
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Posted 27 September 2013 - 04:24 AM

Interesting. So then JS goes to lead the Aussie team, RC goes back to lead TNZ and BA heads up OR. Nice. Alinghi is hired to clean the toilets and sell T-shirts.

 

I like it.

BA wants a British team..

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk...ailing/24279989



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Posted 27 September 2013 - 04:26 AM

Good news if true, I suspect spithill would stay with oracle and the sailors would come from the AST which hamo sponsor.



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Posted 27 September 2013 - 04:41 AM

Wow, this would be fantastic news!!!



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Posted 27 September 2013 - 04:43 AM

Well Ernesto did just compete at Hamilton Island Race Week. Perhaps he's bankrolling it?

 

Damn fucking straight he did, well done that man.

 

Oh this could be too good................



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Posted 27 September 2013 - 04:43 AM

What sort of pressure, if any, does this put on the kiwis to find a way to return?



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Posted 27 September 2013 - 04:45 AM

What sort of pressure, if any, does this put on the kiwis to find a way to return?

 

Nada.



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Posted 27 September 2013 - 04:46 AM

Well Ernesto did just compete at Hamilton Island Race Week. Perhaps he's bankrolling it?

 

Damn fucking straight he did, well done that man.

 

Oh this could be too good................

 

So Hamo YC, Bob Oatley bank rolling (+EB)?



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Posted 27 September 2013 - 05:31 AM

 

Well Ernesto did just compete at Hamilton Island Race Week. Perhaps he's bankrolling it?

 

Damn fucking straight he did, well done that man.

 

Oh this could be too good................

 

So Hamo YC, Bob Oatley bank rolling (+EB)?

I couldn't imagine Oats not being involved if it's going to be Hamo challenging?



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Posted 27 September 2013 - 06:25 AM

 

 

Well Ernesto did just compete at Hamilton Island Race Week. Perhaps he's bankrolling it?

 

Damn fucking straight he did, well done that man.

 

Oh this could be too good................

 

So Hamo YC, Bob Oatley bank rolling (+EB)?

I couldn't imagine Oats not being involved if it's going to be Hamo challenging?

Given the current Cup Regatta Director also likes to go to Hobart on Bob's boat, you would think he would have personally delivered the challenge



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Posted 27 September 2013 - 06:27 AM

Noones leaving  OR I can guarantee that.



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Posted 27 September 2013 - 06:33 AM

Dreaming; but

Hamilton Island/ the Whitsundays would be a perfect location for a Americas Cup

(apart from that I live here)

-perfect sailing in southern hemisphere winter

-unbeatable visual backdrop for TV

-stable and predictable trade weather patterns in winter (usually)

-if races were started @ 1pm local time, it would be live in prime time in the US (7pm)
-already large established tourism base and easily expanded for infrastructure needed.

I just hope that it would NOT mean channel 7 having broadcast rights and only following an MR helmed WildOats AC72..



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Posted 27 September 2013 - 06:40 AM

nice.  front page has it now.  thanks!



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Posted 27 September 2013 - 06:43 AM

.

If this is holds any possibilty, then there is inside info as to what the costs of an AC35 boat are,and therefore what size that boat will be

 

Iain Murray knows 



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Posted 27 September 2013 - 07:23 AM

Yeah, sure he does. Come on Big Fella, spit it out!!
If they are staying with AC72s or similar then considering we have been out of the AC loop for such a long time, its going to be a fucking expensive exercise just to get the right people and then start the whole show from a long way behind scratch.

Doubtful indeed that JS would depart Oracle now, similarly the other Aussie hired guns who have had it laid on in terms of resources and remuneration.

2 Billionaires should be about what you might need to fund it to the level required.(ORTUSA estimated to have spent $USD250Mill + this time)

Realistic assessment of their chance of success? Miniscule at best but it will be fun to watch a foiling cat training in a fresh wind against tide in the Whitsunday Passage.

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Posted 27 September 2013 - 07:25 AM

Great News for Golf Cart Manufacturing!!!



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Posted 27 September 2013 - 07:34 AM

Oh no not those kangaroo fuckers :)

 

I figured I would get the ball rolling :) :)

Maaate, have you ever tried to fuck a kangaroo.  Bastards are too quick and bony!

 

Now a nice warm Koala, well, that's another story! Why do you think they have that sleepy grin on their faces :)



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Posted 27 September 2013 - 07:34 AM

So we're thinking Glen Burke as GM,
Can Murray convince his old mate Fresh to come home and head up design.
With question marks over ETNZZ I'm sure Gashby has already had a phone call. Bundy was side lined enough that he's probably available.

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Posted 27 September 2013 - 07:35 AM

If they won it could be expensive for the challengers even if the boats aren't  so much. I hear Hamilton Island is a rip off.



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Posted 27 September 2013 - 07:38 AM

IF ETNZ folds, we could have a situation where there is a majority Kiwi crew on an Aussie challenger vs a majority Aussie crew on a yank defender!



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Posted 27 September 2013 - 07:48 AM

Suddenly it's all got interesting again.  :)



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Posted 27 September 2013 - 07:49 AM

Great News for Golf Cart Manufacturing!!!

Ha, Gold- well done!



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Posted 27 September 2013 - 08:08 AM

Dreaming; but

Hamilton Island/ the Whitsundays would be a perfect location for a Americas Cup

(apart from that I live here)

-perfect sailing in southern hemisphere winter

-unbeatable visual backdrop for TV

-stable and predictable trade weather patterns in winter (usually)

-if races were started @ 1pm local time, it would be live in prime time in the US (7pm)
-already large established tourism base and easily expanded for infrastructure needed.

I just hope that it would NOT mean channel 7 having broadcast rights and only following an MR helmed WildOats AC72..

 I find this hard to believe.

Those of you that have sailed in Hamilton Island area would know it is the worst place in the world for this type of thing. Huge wind shifts, massive tides.

Cannot be true



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Posted 27 September 2013 - 08:14 AM

Dreaming; but

Hamilton Island/ the Whitsundays would be a perfect location for a Americas Cup

(apart from that I live here)

-perfect sailing in southern hemisphere winter

-unbeatable visual backdrop for TV

-stable and predictable trade weather patterns in winter (usually)

-if races were started @ 1pm local time, it would be live in prime time in the US (7pm)
-already large established tourism base and easily expanded for infrastructure needed.

I just hope that it would NOT mean channel 7 having broadcast rights and only following an MR helmed WildOats AC72..

 I find this hard to believe.

Those of you that have sailed in Hamilton Island area would know it is the worst place in the world for this type of thing. Huge wind shifts, massive tides.

Cannot be true

If HIYC were to win, they could defend anywhere they choose, surely?

 

Fremantle, WA for example?



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Posted 27 September 2013 - 08:19 AM

Dreaming; but

Hamilton Island/ the Whitsundays would be a perfect location for a Americas Cup

(apart from that I live here)

-perfect sailing in southern hemisphere winter

-unbeatable visual backdrop for TV

-stable and predictable trade weather patterns in winter (usually)

-if races were started @ 1pm local time, it would be live in prime time in the US (7pm)
-already large established tourism base and easily expanded for infrastructure needed.

I just hope that it would NOT mean channel 7 having broadcast rights and only following an MR helmed WildOats AC72..

 I find this hard to believe.

Those of you that have sailed in Hamilton Island area would know it is the worst place in the world for this type of thing. Huge wind shifts, massive tides.

Cannot be true

Sailed there plenty of times & seems to have the same rate of flow to SanFran so whats the difference ?

Bring it on Aussie's

TNZ will be there as well perhaps not backed by Kim Dotcom but they will be there ...... 



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Posted 27 September 2013 - 08:26 AM

Dreaming; but

Hamilton Island/ the Whitsundays would be a perfect location for a Americas Cup

(apart from that I live here)

-perfect sailing in southern hemisphere winter

-unbeatable visual backdrop for TV

-stable and predictable trade weather patterns in winter (usually)

-if races were started @ 1pm local time, it would be live in prime time in the US (7pm)
-already large established tourism base and easily expanded for infrastructure needed.

I just hope that it would NOT mean channel 7 having broadcast rights and only following an MR helmed WildOats AC72..

 I find this hard to believe.

Those of you that have sailed in Hamilton Island area would know it is the worst place in the world for this type of thing. Huge wind shifts, massive tides.

Cannot be true

its fine for ORMA 60s for round the island races, why not AC 60's 72's or whatever around bouys.?
If its fine to sail for first-time bareboat hire sailors in the thousands each year , then Im sure the AC boat designers/sailors can handle it easily.
Seems to me sailing conditions that SF dished up could be surpassed here easily
Ive sailed here year round professionally for a decade; Jonsailor- that is a really ingnorant statement.

Mainland based would be better than in HI; but I  cant see BO liking that..



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Posted 27 September 2013 - 08:31 AM

Shit! Thats one for the books!

 

No way could a Cup be held at Hammo though. Its just too small. Where do you put 3-5 challenger bases? Its a resort, no industry, no infrastructure. EVERYTHING would have to come in by boat or plane. Rediculous. Besides there is not enough accomodation. Imagine, teams, press, event personel, media techs, camera crews, choppers etc. The Island would be full before a single fan turned up!

 

I guess they could turbo Shute or Airlie but its a stretch. A modern AC needs the services and infrastructure of a large city. Brisbane?

 

Lol it would be real interesting to see AC 72's off Freo, now that would make great TV!!!



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Posted 27 September 2013 - 08:51 AM

Shit! Thats one for the books!

 

No way could a Cup be held at Hammo though. Its just too small. Where do you put 3-5 challenger bases? Its a resort, no industry, no infrastructure. EVERYTHING would have to come in by boat or plane. Rediculous. Besides there is not enough accomodation. Imagine, teams, press, event personel, media techs, camera crews, choppers etc. The Island would be full before a single fan turned up!

 

I guess they could turbo Shute or Airlie but its a stretch. A modern AC needs the services and infrastructure of a large city. Brisbane?

 

Lol it would be real interesting to see AC 72's off Freo, now that would make great TV!!!

Ummm since whenever, how many CoR mobs have actually WON the AC ???



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Posted 27 September 2013 - 09:04 AM

Shit! Thats one for the books!

 

No way could a Cup be held at Hammo though. Its just too small. Where do you put 3-5 challenger bases? Its a resort, no industry, no infrastructure. EVERYTHING would have to come in by boat or plane. Rediculous. Besides there is not enough accomodation. Imagine, teams, press, event personel, media techs, camera crews, choppers etc. The Island would be full before a single fan turned up!

 

I guess they could turbo Shute or Airlie but its a stretch. A modern AC needs the services and infrastructure of a large city. Brisbane?

 

Lol it would be real interesting to see AC 72's off Freo, now that would make great TV!!!

Ummm since whenever, how many CoR mobs have actually WON the AC ???

Beside the point really. Any challenger needs a plan in case they win. Hammo isn't it.



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Posted 27 September 2013 - 09:16 AM


Dreaming; but
Hamilton Island/ the Whitsundays would be a perfect location for a Americas Cup
(apart from that I live here)
-perfect sailing in southern hemisphere winter
-unbeatable visual backdrop for TV
-stable and predictable trade weather patterns in winter (usually)
-if races were started @ 1pm local time, it would be live in prime time in the US (7pm)
-already large established tourism base and easily expanded for infrastructure needed.

I just hope that it would NOT mean channel 7 having broadcast rights and only following an MR helmed WildOats AC72..

 I find this hard to believe.
Those of you that have sailed in Hamilton Island area would know it is the worst place in the world for this type of thing. Huge wind shifts, massive tides.
Cannot be true

Good, it will make it interesting!

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Posted 27 September 2013 - 09:23 AM

Someone call Clive Palmer and we can make this an all Aussie affair. What's Bondy up to, can we let him out of Jail just for this? ( jokes )

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Posted 27 September 2013 - 09:34 AM

Good thing if true, this puts to sleep the notion that this is only a game for billionaires: 

http://www.forbes.co.../robert-oatley/

 

 

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Robert Oatley Net Worth   $945 M As of January 2013

 



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Posted 27 September 2013 - 09:48 AM

Fuck me this is pure speculation and you are all off.

 

From the article;

 

The plans for the next Cup remain unclear, although a person briefed on negotiations said Thursday that the next challenger of record for the Cup was set to be the Hamilton Island Yacht Club from Queensland, Australia.

 

Why don't we wait until it's announced? Oh sorry forgot, this is SAAC!



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Posted 27 September 2013 - 09:49 AM

How much of a goose does he look? Never sails on the boat but always there to collect the trophy!~

 

And IM always in the frame to collect a pay packet.



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Posted 27 September 2013 - 10:16 AM

Fuck me this is pure speculation and you are all off.

 

From the article;

 

The plans for the next Cup remain unclear, although a person briefed on negotiations said Thursday that the next challenger of record for the Cup was set to be the Hamilton Island Yacht Club from Queensland, Australia.

 

Why don't we wait until it's announced? Oh sorry forgot, this is SAAC!

Isn't Robert "Bob" Oatley the Owner of Wild Oats XI, 6-Time Winner of the famous Sydney to Hobart Yacht Race? If yes this makes an awful lot of sense to me.



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Posted 27 September 2013 - 10:26 AM

84 years old.....  Not a lot of years left in him.  Can't take your money with you so may as well have some fun with it.



If they won it could be expensive for the challengers even if the boats aren't  so much. I hear Hamilton Island is a rip off.

 

:lol:  :lol:  :lol:  This can't be good for the Cup. :D



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Posted 27 September 2013 - 10:34 AM

WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS >>>>AND THERES  NO TIME FOR .........
 



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Posted 27 September 2013 - 10:36 AM

Fuck me this is pure speculation and you are all off.

 

From the article;

 

The plans for the next Cup remain unclear, although a person briefed on negotiations said Thursday that the next challenger of record for the Cup was set to be the Hamilton Island Yacht Club from Queensland, Australia.

 

Why don't we wait until it's announced? Oh sorry forgot, this is SAAC!

Good enough for the NYT but not enough for you?



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Posted 27 September 2013 - 10:36 AM

Good thing if true, this puts to sleep the notion that this is only a game for billionaires: 
http://www.forbes.co.../robert-oatley/
 
 

186x282.jpg?fit=scale&background=000000

Robert Oatley Net Worth   $945 M As of January 2013

 


Bob is Definately a billionaire. Those lists are often 'polite' you don't go around making enemies of billionaires by publishing anything other than what they want to report.

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Posted 27 September 2013 - 10:37 AM

Imagine the parties with $2 spirits in Airlie Beach

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Posted 27 September 2013 - 10:38 AM


Fuck me this is pure speculation and you are all off.
 
From the article;
 
The plans for the next Cup remain unclear, although a person briefed on negotiations said Thursday that the next challenger of record for the Cup was set to be the Hamilton Island Yacht Club from Queensland, Australia.
 
Why don't we wait until it's announced? Oh sorry forgot, this is SAAC!

Isn't Robert "Bob" Oatley the Owner of Wild Oats XI, 6-Time Winner of the famous Sydney to Hobart Yacht Race? If yes this makes an awful lot of sense to me.

Yep that would be him.

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Posted 27 September 2013 - 10:39 AM

Good thing if true, this puts to sleep the notion that this is only a game for billionaires: 
http://www.forbes.co.../robert-oatley/
 
 

186x282.jpg?fit=scale&background=000000
Robert Oatley Net Worth   $945 M As of January 2013
 


Bob is Definately a billionaire. Those lists are often 'polite' you don't go around making enemies of billionaires by publishing anything other than what they want to report.

Bob is amongst the richest Persons in Oz that much I can say.



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Posted 27 September 2013 - 10:40 AM

If the Aussies get a team together I hope France don't!

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Posted 27 September 2013 - 10:43 AM

Fuck me this is pure speculation and you are all off.

 

From the article;

 

The plans for the next Cup remain unclear, although a person briefed on negotiations said Thursday that the next challenger of record for the Cup was set to be the Hamilton Island Yacht Club from Queensland, Australia.

 

Why don't we wait until it's announced? Oh sorry forgot, this is SAAC!

Good enough for the NYT but not enough for you?

NYT is usually very reliable in such matters. I would not be shocked if we have an Announcement over the weekend or next week.



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Posted 27 September 2013 - 11:27 AM

So we're thinking Glen Burke as GM,
Can Murray convince his old mate Fresh to come home and head up design.
With question marks over ETNZZ I'm sure Gashby has already had a phone call. Bundy was side lined enough that he's probably available.

 

 

Do you have any idea to whom Fresh is married?



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Posted 27 September 2013 - 11:36 AM


Per FV, HIYC is likely to be TT/AR's new home - tied to NO's nationality

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Posted 27 September 2013 - 11:38 AM

If bob and Ernesto collaborate that will be a formidable team, Bob would be the only Aussie willing and able to do it

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Posted 27 September 2013 - 11:42 AM

Per FV, HIYC is likely to be TT/AR's new home - tied to NO's nationality

Link?



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Posted 27 September 2013 - 11:42 AM

Great news if true and surely a COR non of us thought of. I Have wished for a long time for Australia to get back into the Cup. Just hasn't been the same without them. This makes me very happy.

And with Aussies in it maybe that will help guarantee TNZs return.

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Posted 27 September 2013 - 11:53 AM

wow 



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Posted 27 September 2013 - 12:01 PM

Shit! Thats one for the books!

 

No way could a Cup be held at Hammo though. Its just too small. Where do you put 3-5 challenger bases? Its a resort, no industry, no infrastructure. EVERYTHING would have to come in by boat or plane. Rediculous. Besides there is not enough accomodation. Imagine, teams, press, event personel, media techs, camera crews, choppers etc. The Island would be full before a single fan turned up!

 

I guess they could turbo Shute or Airlie but its a stretch. A modern AC needs the services and infrastructure of a large city. Brisbane?

 

Lol it would be real interesting to see AC 72's off Freo, now that would make great TV!!!

Well as it sits now it

 

1) lacks the accomodations

2) lacks the basing facilities

 

OTOH, this might just be a way for the organizers to  pressure the QL government to allow this sort of development and buildout.  Perhaps a second marina for the island, and some hotels on the east side of the island?



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Posted 27 September 2013 - 12:13 PM

 

Shit! Thats one for the books!

 

No way could a Cup be held at Hammo though. Its just too small. Where do you put 3-5 challenger bases? Its a resort, no industry, no infrastructure. EVERYTHING would have to come in by boat or plane. Rediculous. Besides there is not enough accomodation. Imagine, teams, press, event personel, media techs, camera crews, choppers etc. The Island would be full before a single fan turned up!

 

I guess they could turbo Shute or Airlie but its a stretch. A modern AC needs the services and infrastructure of a large city. Brisbane?

 

Lol it would be real interesting to see AC 72's off Freo, now that would make great TV!!!

Ummm since whenever, how many CoR mobs have actually WON the AC ???

Beside the point really. Any challenger needs a plan in case they win. Hammo isn't it.

From a challenger & marketing point of view the plan would be to lose the last race, ater the world has discovered the wine & island aspect! :)



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Posted 27 September 2013 - 12:20 PM

This would be fantastic news.



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Posted 27 September 2013 - 12:26 PM

I don't have my hopes up too much. One of my friends runs all of Bob's businesses and when there were efforts to get a Team Aus going for this time around, Bob was very firm on his views on the AC. Bottom line then was he thought only a fool would waste his money on it because there was no point other than for ego. AFAIK, Bob's health isn't great and therefore I find it unlikely he would want to be involved. However, I will make a call in the morning and see what I can find out.



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Posted 27 September 2013 - 12:33 PM

If any Australian was going to challenge the logical choice would be oatley as he is the only billionaire/multi millionaire with the passion for sailing it seems. Clearly a fan of technology too, wo9 was one if the first successful canting keelers(at least in oz) and he just added a front foil to oats 11. Didn't think he would quite have the cash for this game although anyone with a super maxi, a pocket maxi, a jet and a large island isn't struggling.

As for looking like a goose at the syd to Hobart finish because he doesn't sail I believe he said something like he didn't see owning a boat as that different who owns a race horse and gets enjoyment when it wins.

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Posted 27 September 2013 - 12:36 PM

If the Aussies get a team together I hope France don't!

Can you please explain ?



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Posted 27 September 2013 - 12:41 PM

If the Aussies get a team together I hope France don't!

Can you please explain ?

Aussies are convict Pommies- Pommie & French = ??



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Posted 27 September 2013 - 12:45 PM

As for looking like a goose at the syd to Hobart finish because he doesn't sail I believe he said something like he didn't see owning a boat as that different who owns a race horse and gets enjoyment when it wins.

 

May not race the Hobart, but he is not afraid to get behind the wheel from time to time.

 

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Posted 27 September 2013 - 12:45 PM

Just because the COR is from Hamilton doesn't mean that the race will be held there, right?  The defender has the right to choose the location, correct?  I don't see it going anywhere besides SF unless LE gets a huge bid from somewhere else.  If he's gonna have it on Hamilton, why not just go to Lanai where he already owns everything?



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Posted 27 September 2013 - 12:54 PM

Fuck me this is pure speculation and you are all off.

 

From the article;

 

The plans for the next Cup remain unclear, although a person briefed on negotiations said Thursday that the next challenger of record for the Cup was set to be the Hamilton Island Yacht Club from Queensland, Australia.

 

Why don't we wait until it's announced? Oh sorry forgot, this is SAAC!

 


The Euro-boys brought in to run the YAC helped themselves to an AC45, now the Aussie RD helps his mates to become COR - incestuous bunch. :D

 

^ little early to be worrying about an Ozzie defence isn't it, COR has the same or less chance than any others that join in don't forget - and Auckland was called 'premature' for putting a few ideas down on paper as 'early' as a month ago.



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Posted 27 September 2013 - 01:07 PM


Per FV, HIYC is likely to be TT/AR's new home - tied to NO's nationality

Link?

http://www.farevela....-livello-dei-k/

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Posted 27 September 2013 - 01:33 PM

I got engaged on Hamilton Island.

 

That's all I can contribute to this thread.



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Posted 27 September 2013 - 01:43 PM

Just because the COR is from Hamilton doesn't mean that the race will be held there, right? 

 

In this case it does. How else to put one's real estate firmly on the map?



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Posted 27 September 2013 - 01:43 PM

Just because the COR is from Hamilton doesn't mean that the race will be held there, right?  The defender has the right to choose the location, correct?  I don't see it going anywhere besides SF unless LE gets a huge bid from somewhere else.  If he's gonna have it on Hamilton, why not just go to Lanai where he already owns everything?

Exactly, I dont know why everyone is getting their panties all twisted about Hamilton as a venue. It will be in the US, likely (hopefully) SF again. Even if Hamilton is CoR they have to WIN to bring it there. Jumping ahead of ourselves a bit are we?



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Posted 27 September 2013 - 01:44 PM

 


Per FV, HIYC is likely to be TT/AR's new home - tied to NO's nationality

Link?

http://www.farevela....-livello-dei-k/

Thanks. Question is when will the GGYC/Oracle step forward and end the speculation announcing their new CoR? Time will tell



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Posted 27 September 2013 - 01:47 PM


If the Aussies get a team together I hope France don't!

Can you please explain ?

Because the French have some brilliant talent, I wouldn't want them to beat us!

An Australian team could be successful because.

1. They would leave Oracle with a big Void.

2. A team with lots of Aussies has already proven to be able to beat NZ

3. If NZ don't challenge we might invoke some ANZAC spirit, join forces and kick everyone's ass.

All Hypothetical of course but there is no shortage of cash around in Australia to do it. I wouldn't let Bob Oatleys age come into play. Didn't Syd Fisher just sail 2200nm on one of his Two Maxis ( god only knows how many other yachts he owns ) to a Transpac Win? At 80+ years of age.

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Posted 27 September 2013 - 01:50 PM

The big question though is this: does Australia have a better beer than Moa? 



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Posted 27 September 2013 - 01:54 PM

^ suddenly so easy? And 4 years ago was different? Besides all the top talent is signed elsewhere now - too late, missed the boat ;)



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Posted 27 September 2013 - 01:55 PM

To take up where Maxmini left off:  how does Kangaroo/Koala fucking compare to sheep fucking? I'm sure Aussies and kiwis have argued the finer points of this before?  :P



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Posted 27 September 2013 - 01:57 PM

Troy Tindall 



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Posted 27 September 2013 - 02:39 PM

Would love to see a strong and successful French challenge, a real all-star team (Peyron, Cammas, Coville, Joyon - try to imagine) with a good bond between them....................talents are here, for sure, design, build and sail, not sure about the management part though :)

 

That would be a team to support, well, one can dream..............with the current state of the French economy, I just cant imagine this will happen.

 

MSafiri

 

 

 

 

 


If the Aussies get a team together I hope France don't!

Can you please explain ?

Because the French have some brilliant talent, I wouldn't want them to beat us!

.....



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Posted 27 September 2013 - 02:43 PM

They just announced the first drop in unemployment in 27 mos..



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Posted 27 September 2013 - 02:43 PM

Per FV, HIYC is likely to be TT/AR's new home - tied to NO's nationality

 

Why would NO's nationality be the paramount concern for TT, or Percy, for that matter?



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Posted 27 September 2013 - 03:04 PM

Just because the COR is from Hamilton doesn't mean that the race will be held there, right?  The defender has the right to choose the location, correct?  I don't see it going anywhere besides SF unless LE gets a huge bid from somewhere else.  If he's gonna have it on Hamilton, why not just go to Lanai where he already owns everything?

 

Do you understand how this works?  LE wouldn't be having it on, in or anywhere around Hamilton.  HIYC would need to win for this to even be a possibility.  The prospect of having it on Hamilton island has nothing, zero, to do with LE or OR.  Good grief...

 

As to the other comments about the lack of infrastructure or being a poor venue for these types of boats, who says it has to be on Hamilton if they were to win.  There's nothing stopping them (except for local politics) from having it in Sydney Harbor (which would be a fantastic venue for these boats IMO).  Newport Harbor in RI is no where near NYYC's midtown clubhouse.



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Posted 27 September 2013 - 03:12 PM

It is the way AC fans think.  As soon as someone challenges, you start thinking about how the following AC would be if that challenger were to win.  Personally, I think few could top Marseille if France were to win, given the wind and the ability to hold the races close to shore, and in a big city, although the Brittany coast would also be spectacular.  Plymouth obviously showed its ability to stage an incredible event, and there are many others in Southern England that could likely work for a bigger event with AC72s.

 

So, going back to an Australia challenge, I can't see the AC being held at a small resort island.  Brisbane, just looking at the aerials, does not look great.  Sydney would obviously be a good one. Kinda doubt that Freemantle/Perth would be the option again, just due to how remote it is.  Sydney????  I could handle AC35 being lost to the Aussies, Poms, or the Frogs.



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Posted 27 September 2013 - 03:20 PM

President promissed to turn around the trend by the end of the year. They announced that unemployment dropped by appr. 50k in Aug -- half, if not more, of France is on vacation between 14/07 and 15/08 :) ....

They just announced the first drop in unemployment in 27 mos..



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Posted 27 September 2013 - 03:35 PM

Regarding Sydney Harbor, considering the prevailing wind angles, and given the amount of regular shipping traffic, how is the potential for it to support a course of the size we just saw for AC34 in SFO?

 

Melbourne (Port Phillip Bay), Adelaide, Hobart, Perth/Freemantle (in-shore)?



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Posted 27 September 2013 - 04:14 PM

Yank's evaluating (and slagging) potential hosts via Google Earth.



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Posted 27 September 2013 - 04:16 PM

Regarding Sydney Harbor, considering the prevailing wind angles, and given the amount of regular shipping traffic, how is the potential for it to support a course of the size we just saw for AC34 in SFO?

 

Melbourne (Port Phillip Bay), Adelaide, Hobart, Perth/Freemantle (in-shore)?

 Brisbane River? ;)



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Posted 27 September 2013 - 04:30 PM

I got engaged on Hamilton Island.

 

That's all I can contribute to this thread.

 

At least it's fact.



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Posted 27 September 2013 - 04:31 PM

The big question though is this: does Australia have a better beer than Moa? 

 

I have had occasion to evaluate this quandary, the answer is always no.



I got engaged on Hamilton Island.

 

That's all I can contribute to this thread.

 

At least it's fact.

 

 

Sorry, I should have learned that facts have no place here... ;)



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Posted 27 September 2013 - 04:49 PM

I LOVE Hamilton Island so IF the rumor is true, and IF HIYC wins the Cup 3 or 4 years from now in the yet to be determined  AC 35 match, and the IF HIYC decides to hold the AC defense at Hamilton Island 6-8 years from now, and IF I am still upright at that time, I would love to go back there and watch AC 36.  Can I make my reservation?



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Posted 27 September 2013 - 05:01 PM

 


If the Aussies get a team together I hope France don't!

Can you please explain ?

Because the French have some brilliant talent, I wouldn't want them to beat us!

An Australian team could be successful because.

1. They would leave Oracle with a big Void.

2. A team with lots of Aussies has already proven to be able to beat NZ

3. If NZ don't challenge we might invoke some ANZAC spirit, join forces and kick everyone's ass.

All Hypothetical of course but there is no shortage of cash around in Australia to do it. I wouldn't let Bob Oatleys age come into play. Didn't Syd Fisher just sail 2200nm on one of his Two Maxis ( god only knows how many other yachts he owns ) to a Transpac Win? At 80+ years of age.

Thank you for your appreciation ; i agree , we have brilliant talents in France , but too many chiefs : the Peyron brothers ,Pace , Cammas ,etc..If Cammas and Peyron can work together ,it could be a terrific team ,but the problem is money..We don't have billionaires sailing addicts ,and i'm not sure Groupama is ready to accept sponsorship in 100 millions euros zone .

My personal wish :a 100% australian team , a victory against LE's team next time (don't forget this small problem...) and a defense in Perth or Sydney : best places ,best people and a splendid country , every french sailing fan's dream !



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Posted 27 September 2013 - 05:16 PM

I got engaged on Hamilton Island.
 
That's all I can contribute to this thread.


I worked there as a room cleaner. Whilst there i was dating these two blondes who shared a room. Last time i took acid was lying on the beach watching the sun go down with lisa and wendy. Happy times.

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Posted 27 September 2013 - 05:24 PM

I got engaged on Hamilton Island.
 
That's all I can contribute to this thread.


I worked there as a room cleaner. Whilst there i was dating these two blondes who shared a room. Last time i took acid was lying on the beach watching the sun go down with lisa and wendy. Happy times.

 

That place was a den of iniquity before it became all upscale...



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Posted 27 September 2013 - 05:41 PM

And no return to the open water rule?

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Posted 27 September 2013 - 05:45 PM

And no return to the open water rule?

What open water rule ..?



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Posted 27 September 2013 - 06:07 PM

Thought there was something in the dog about no bays or rivers that mc-ed this time

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Posted 27 September 2013 - 06:20 PM

Thought there was something in the dog about no bays or rivers that mc-ed this time

 

You answered your own question. The clause you refer to is the default. It was added for a case where a defender could set a course where local knowledge could defeat a faster boat (the NYYC did not want to sail in RYS home "annual regatta" waters if they lost the Cup).

 

If that clause was moved elsewhere in the Deed it would have interesting effect. Say that the open water, free of headlands clause was used to describe the club's annual regatta? It would severely limit the number of clubs that could challenge for the Cup.






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