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#1 Snapper

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Posted 22 October 2013 - 09:47 PM

Ignoring the forum title for the moment - need some feedback on whether it's technically 'Sport boat' or 'Sportboat' in your wise and never judgmental opinions...?

 

What should be the official norm?

 

Yes, I have a real reason for asking!

 

-Snap 



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Posted 22 October 2013 - 10:49 PM

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.....the original term was 'SpUrtboat',,,  it got lost in translation to seppo though :mellow:



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Posted 22 October 2013 - 11:01 PM

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.....the original term was 'SpUrtboat',,,  it got lost in translation to seppo though :mellow:

Indeed Couch  Surfer. A comprehensive Bing and Googling will show that indeed Sport Boat is a unique seppo thing, that lives in classifieds and reviews originated in the US of A ..outside the majority of SA results of course!



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Posted 22 October 2013 - 11:15 PM

...and of course SMS stands for Sportsboat Measurement System. I have something in the works and want to get the nomenclature correct. Hurting a few seppos feelings is not the issue here! I prefer 'sportboat' just like there is a 'speedboat' and a 'gunboat'. 

 

I don't think 'sportsboat' will cut it on this side of the pond. 



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Posted 23 October 2013 - 01:44 AM

We use the term Sportboat for our series and trophies and class splits.



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Posted 23 October 2013 - 02:24 AM

Cupholders

Not

Cup holders

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Posted 23 October 2013 - 03:28 AM

...and of course SMS stands for Sportsboat Measurement System. I have something in the works and want to get the nomenclature correct. Hurting a few seppos feelings is not the issue here! I prefer 'sportboat' just like there is a 'speedboat' and a 'gunboat'. 

 

I don't think 'sportsboat' will cut it on this side of the pond. 

I always say it as sportsboat yet have to hold back when spelling/typing it to be sportboat haha.



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Posted 23 October 2013 - 04:00 AM

Onlys ours mates froms downs souths says sportsboats, buts thens agains theys says maths toos



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Posted 23 October 2013 - 08:39 AM

Onlys ours mates froms downs souths says sportsboats, buts thens agains theys says maths toos

We would say " I have maths next" or in your example "We say mathematics as well. "



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Posted 23 October 2013 - 08:47 AM

Sportsboat & I am not from down south.

 

I have a degree in Mathematics, therefore it is "Maths". Even seppos don't have Professors of Mathematic.



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Posted 23 October 2013 - 08:57 AM

Sportsboat & I am not from down south.

 

I have a degree in Mathematics, therefore it is "Maths". Even seppos don't have Professors of Mathematic.

Gold! 40 years ago, in the equivalent of the US Jnr High, UK 8th Year, we had a classmate from Texas... We got used to erazors and left the sniggering to "rubbers" of his crewel manipulation to cute student teachers. The best part was becomming bilingual, we all laughed when a few years later he wrote moaning that "no one in ekensas understood his accent anymore and most of his jokes ended up in punchups". The dude had a Hunter S Thompson/Hawkeye sorta vibe so we all imaginged his uber sarcasim & quick wit would be lost among the serious NASCAR & gun slinging types.



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Posted 23 October 2013 - 11:21 AM

We watch sport on TV while seppos watch sports. We have sportsboats while seppos have sportboats. Go Figure. Well, no, cos that was the original name of my previous boat, Mumm 30 USA 11 (AUS11 Oedipus Complex) and that, despite its performance, was a lead mine and not a sportsboat but to seppos is a sportboat. Is that clear????

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Posted 23 October 2013 - 01:27 PM

Ignoring the forum title for the moment - need some feedback on whether it's technically 'Sport boat' or 'Sportboat' in your wise and never judgmental opinions...?
 
What should be the official norm?
 
Yes, I have a real reason for asking!
 
-Snap

neither

it's Sportsboat

a lotus is not a 'sportcar' or 'sport car'

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Posted 23 October 2013 - 01:40 PM

Some may argue that is spelld  lotu! not  lotus.



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Posted 23 October 2013 - 02:07 PM

What do you call a flock of pelicans?? 



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Posted 23 October 2013 - 02:14 PM

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what do you call a flock of any bird

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Posted 23 October 2013 - 02:53 PM

When i normally see a flock of birds it is usually a Hens Night & they r maggoted or on the way :)



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Posted 23 October 2013 - 03:03 PM

Sportsboat & I am not from down south.

 

I have a degree in Mathematics, therefore it is "Maths". Even seppos don't have Professors of Mathematic.

yeah but you say "Sikth" when you mean "Sixth"



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Posted 23 October 2013 - 03:05 PM

Sportboat up here.

Sportsboat down there.

 

we got a lot more of them up here.

 

they got a few wide ones down there.



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Posted 23 October 2013 - 06:03 PM

Sportsboat & I am not from down south.

 

I have a degree in Mathematics, therefore it is "Maths". Even seppos don't have Professors of Mathematic.

yeah but you say "Sikth" when you mean "Sixth"

 

No I don't think so. Unless discussing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikth - which is unlikely. You might be assuming a Hayling Island thing is a British one.



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Posted 23 October 2013 - 06:09 PM

Fair enough, but most of the south coasters seem to go with it, e'en though the beeb says it's wrong:

 

Finally, the word "sixth" has more than one possible pronunciation in English. It is usually pronounced SIKSTH in British English (pronounced as the word 'six', with 'th' as in 'thin' attached at the end), but can also be pronounced SIKST-TH. The pronunciation SIKTH (where the 's' is silent) often results in casual speech but is considered incorrect.



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Posted 23 October 2013 - 07:11 PM

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...geeeze.......take it to 'Geo-politicalLinguisticSemantic anarchy',,eh!

 

 

 

 

 

................................yer gotta love SA :mellow:



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Posted 23 October 2013 - 07:52 PM

Sportsboat like sports car.

 

Google Sport Boat or sportboat and you get pages and pages of fishing boats.

 

Google sportsboat and you get Wikipedia : " The term "sportsboat" first appeared in the late 1980s and early 1990s to describe high performance Trailer yachts with major compromises in accommodation" 

 

QED



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Posted 24 October 2013 - 05:46 AM

Fair enough, but most of the south coasters seem to go with it, e'en though the beeb says it's wrong:

 

Finally, the word "sixth" has more than one possible pronunciation in English. It is usually pronounced SIKSTH in British English (pronounced as the word 'six', with 'th' as in 'thin' attached at the end), but can also be pronounced SIKST-TH. The pronunciation SIKTH (where the 's' is silent) often results in casual speech but is considered incorrect.

 

"Casual speech" is wonderfully non-judgemental (which is a good thing).

 

For an education on English-English, listen to Mick Jagger speaking to a variety of people. He constantly varies his accent to match the person he is speaking to. Quite spooky.

 

Now back to the scheduled programme.



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Posted 24 October 2013 - 06:18 AM

Yeah but if you take out the ones that you call a SB and we don't cause there are too slow the numbers are closer :)

One of your quickest the Viper just scraps in to our cut off so we have you on quality

 

Interesting to note that we have SMS with no B (so sportsboat all 1 word) but the assoc is ASBA, so even we are confused 

 

Sportboat up here.

Sportsboat down there.

 

we got a lot more of them up here.

 

they got a few wide ones down there.



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Posted 24 October 2013 - 08:55 AM

Sportboat up here.
Sportsboat down there.
 
we got a lot more of them up here.
 
they got a few wide ones down there.

you have barely more than us, maybe less active
________________________________

PER CAPITA we have 20 times you

or from another angle you have 20 times less

__________________________________________________

your most populated ( twice our country ) and richest state, just about 10 GDPs globallyahead of 180 countries

cannot field a regular fleet as large as the the city of Canberra (358,000)

or say NZ with 10% of the pop of your state, and 8% of calis GDP

http://en.wikipedia....untries_by_GDP_(nominal)

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Posted 24 October 2013 - 02:47 PM

Sportsboat like sports car.

 

Google Sport Boat or sportboat and you get pages and pages of fishing boats.

 

Google sportsboat and you get Wikipedia : " The term "sportsboat" first appeared in the late 1980s and early 1990s to describe high performance Trailer yachts with major compromises in accommodation" 

 

QED

 

This makes a lot of sense as you wouldn't say sportcar, unless you're in Ireland. The big question is will the seppos take to it...? 

Thanks for the feedback and par for the course hijack. 

 

I'm running with Sportsboat. More details later.



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Posted 25 October 2013 - 12:43 AM

thats the ticket snap



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Posted 25 October 2013 - 03:59 AM

Sportsboat like sports car.

 

Google Sport Boat or sportboat and you get pages and pages of fishing boats.

 

Google sportsboat and you get Wikipedia : " The term "sportsboat" first appeared in the late 1980s and early 1990s to describe high performance Trailer yachts with major compromises in accommodation" 

 

QED

 

 

I confess that I take exception to the phrase "major compromises in accommodation".

 

The Viper can sleep a family of four very comfortably. Two adults can stretch out on a king size bed in the main cabin and two kids have a cozy space under the foredeck. 



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Posted 25 October 2013 - 04:01 AM

Oh Look......there is one of the little darlings coming out of the fore cabin now!

 

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Posted 25 October 2013 - 10:51 AM

Sportsboat like sports car.
 
Google Sport Boat or sportboat and you get pages and pages of fishing boats.
 
Google sportsboat and you get Wikipedia : " The term "sportsboat" first appeared in the late 1980s and early 1990s to describe high performance Trailer yachts with major compromises in accommodation" 
 
QED

But you can't listen to Mambo, he's a pom.

Oh wait, so's Snapper. Never mind. Long live the Queen!

(Off to edit Wikipedia!)

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Posted 25 October 2013 - 01:46 PM

Sportsboat like sports car.
 
Google Sport Boat or sportboat and you get pages and pages of fishing boats.
 
Google sportsboat and you get Wikipedia : " The term "sportsboat" first appeared in the late 1980s and early 1990s to describe high performance Trailer yachts with major compromises in accommodation" 
 
QED

But you can't listen to Mambo, he's a pom.

Oh wait, so's Snapper. Never mind. Long live the Queen!

(Off to edit Wikipedia!)

 

Does Rondar want to sponsor a forum about fishing boats or fast, exciting, sailing boats?

 

If you want to sponsor a forum about sailing boats, I suggest you ask Clean to edit the title of  the SA Sports Boat Forum.

If you want to promote Sport Boats, then by all means lets get the word out to all of our friends who own Sea Rays,  BayLiners, Fourwinns, Skeeters, Crownlines, Hydra-Sports etc. etc. etc. and tell them that SA has a forum for them. I'm sure that Scooter and Clean would appreciate the traffic!

 

Here are some useful links to start the ball rolling:

 

http://www.searay.co...oats-18-30.aspx

http://sportboatsusa.com/

http://www.larsonboats.com/

 

 

There is a semi-serious point that I'm making.  As industry participants you (Rondar and SA) should be promoting the universal adoption of the "s" in sports boats because it searches much better for you.

Also, outside of the US, sailors are using the "s" in sports boat, and inside the US, its probably 40/60. So it really wouldn't take much  for the "s" to become standard to distinguish sailing boats from sport fishing boats. 



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Posted 26 October 2013 - 04:11 AM

Snapper,

 

I don't think you will find consistency in the English language about singular vs plural in compound words like sportboat vs sportsboat. Using sportscar as an example is small sample. What about motorsport vs motorsports? BBC Sport vs NBC Sports? North American sailors will say sportboat, North American fishermen might speak of sport-fishing boats, and Australia and NZ might say sportsboat.

 

I like sportboat, because there is only one sport I am doing with my boat. However, I acknowledge that this is just as arbitrary as sportsboat in our messy language that we share with many other countries.

 

It sounds like you are doing something with the name, either for an organization or an event. This implies that you might be registering a domain name. I suggest that you register both spellings of sportboat/sportsboat in your domain name if you are really doing something big, like forming a worldwide rating association to spread SMS, or a NA regatta.

 

Cheers,

 

jason



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Posted 26 October 2013 - 04:30 AM

Googling "sport boat" in Australia leads to a heap of power boating pleasure links!



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Posted 26 October 2013 - 05:52 AM

Snapper,

 

I don't think you will find consistency in the English language about singular vs plural in compound words like sportboat vs sportsboat. Using sportscar as an example is small sample. What about motorsport vs motorsports? BBC Sport vs NBC Sports? North American sailors will say sportboat, North American fishermen might speak of sport-fishing boats, and Australia and NZ might say sportsboat.

 

I like sportboat, because there is only one sport I am doing with my boat. However, I acknowledge that this is just as arbitrary as sportsboat in our messy language that we share with many other countries.

 

It sounds like you are doing something with the name, either for an organization or an event. This implies that you might be registering a domain name. I suggest that you register both spellings of sportboat/sportsboat in your domain name if you are really doing something big, like forming a worldwide rating association to spread SMS, or a NA regatta.

 

Cheers,

 

jason

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Posted 26 October 2013 - 01:11 PM

Sportboat up here.
Sportsboat down there.
 
we got a lot more of them up here.
 
they got a few wide ones down there.

you have barely more than us, maybe less active
________________________________

PER CAPITA we have 20 times you

or from another angle you have 20 times less

__________________________________________________

your most populated ( twice our country ) and richest state, just about 10 GDPs globallyahead of 180 countries

cannot field a regular fleet as large as the the city of Canberra (358,000)

or say NZ with 10% of the pop of your state, and 8% of calis GDP

http://en.wikipedia....untries_by_GDP_(nominal)

We have one regatta with almost 200 sportboats, and dozens with 20-40 one-design sporties racing against eachother.  What you got?  The great aussie PerCapita Championship?

 

Hell you can't even get a one design fleet together down there.  But at least Aussies broke into the top 20 at Worlds, you should be happy.

 

Though the only Aussie to break the top ten had an irish crew and is a 470 sailor



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Posted 26 October 2013 - 01:15 PM

Snapper,

 

I don't think you will find consistency in the English language about singular vs plural in compound words like sportboat vs sportsboat. Using sportscar as an example is small sample. What about motorsport vs motorsports? BBC Sport vs NBC Sports? North American sailors will say sportboat, North American fishermen might speak of sport-fishing boats, and Australia and NZ might say sportsboat.

 

I like sportboat, because there is only one sport I am doing with my boat. However, I acknowledge that this is just as arbitrary as sportsboat in our messy language that we share with many other countries.

 

It sounds like you are doing something with the name, either for an organization or an event. This implies that you might be registering a domain name. I suggest that you register both spellings of sportboat/sportsboat in your domain name if you are really doing something big, like forming a worldwide rating association to spread SMS, or a NA regatta.

 

Cheers,

 

jason

Jason - appreciate it. Message me here with a Phone # for more. Mambo, same thing you manky poof.

I'm with Jason, and the Ed is too.  Sportboat it is when we write about it from now until forever, if for no other reason than it pisses little gybeset off.



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Posted 27 October 2013 - 10:58 PM

getting a bit desperate for post content ?

 

wheres your pacifier gone ?






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