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#1 MR.CLEAN

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Posted 07 November 2013 - 06:44 PM

Just last week we gave you the news about SailDrone's historic unmanned voyage from 'frisco to Hawaii. With their safety-orange drone safely tied down, we're getting project designer and leader Richard Jenkins on the line for another great SA Innerview.  

 

Whether you're a tech freak, a RC sailboat lover, or just a lover of all things dronish, get your questions in about this potentially revolutionary little sailboat here, and Mr. Clean will make sure the good ones get asked in our video Skype chat.  Deadline for questions:  Friday at 1300 GMT.  Saildrone photo.

 

 

 

 

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#2 Dorado

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Posted 07 November 2013 - 06:59 PM

Did y'all know that Richard has sailed faster than anyone else on this planet in the history of history ???

No kidding.

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Posted 07 November 2013 - 07:25 PM

He's the worlds fastest, fatest, drunkest man. Just ask him!



#4 StayPlassy

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Posted 07 November 2013 - 07:27 PM

Has there been any consideration on using these as a oceanic research platform? 



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Posted 07 November 2013 - 07:59 PM

Richard,

    

  Congrats on completion of first Zero Handed Transpac!. A navigational question.  Given that SD1 averaged 5.4 knots through the water, and 130 miles/day for the first five days, is there an obvious explanation why it then only averaged 2.3 knots and 55 miles/day for the remaining 29 days?  I'm guessing maybe it snagged some plastic or netting, but have no idea what the underwater configuration looks like. Comments appreciated.

 

~sleddog



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Posted 07 November 2013 - 08:44 PM

Richard,

    

  Congrats on completion of first Zero Handed Transpac!. A navigational question.  Given that SD1 averaged 5.4 knots through the water, and 130 miles/day for the first five days, is there an obvious explanation why it then only averaged 2.3 knots and 55 miles/day for the remaining 29 days?  I'm guessing maybe it snagged some plastic or netting, but have no idea what the underwater configuration looks like. Comments appreciated.

 

~sleddog

 

 

I read that they left the bay in a gale and it survived.



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Posted 07 November 2013 - 10:33 PM

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...is it true this project was funded by the Columbian drug cartels?!? :mellow:   :rolleyes:



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Posted 07 November 2013 - 11:33 PM

1) Was the boat carrying any spare load during the trip (it has a 100kg capacity ?) and roughly how much is the boat slowed when carrying the extra load compared to not carrying it. 

2) What are the biggest areas of improvement for future saildrone's?



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Posted 07 November 2013 - 11:43 PM

Gosh..okay..me first!  What's it rate?

 

Seriously though is a cool platform, my question is while you can assume the "big ocean, little boat" theory for not getting hit, at what limit does stability go away? wind speeds, wave height etc..awesome that you launched it in a gale!.



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Posted 07 November 2013 - 11:45 PM

Does the drone transmit it's location on AIS?  

Does it use an AIS receiver to try to avoid collisions?

Does it have any other sensors to detect other traffic?

Does NASA want a version for the methane lakes of Titan?



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Posted 08 November 2013 - 12:01 AM

Congratulations on a tremendous achievment!



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Posted 08 November 2013 - 12:31 AM

Hiya, a question about the control systems and power - whats the brains of the machine, and how it is powered?

Cheers and well done!



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Posted 08 November 2013 - 12:57 AM

IIRC he even wrote a story for us back when Greenbird hit her big number.



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Posted 08 November 2013 - 01:03 AM

I think I read it was self righting.  How does that work with a wingsail on a tri fully inverted?



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Posted 08 November 2013 - 01:51 AM

Is there any system to help avoid collision with other vessels? I doubt that SailDrone could do any damage to another vessel, but it could easily be destroyed by a freighter. Is the little guy just light enough and strong enough that it won't get shredded by some giant ship that doesn't see it?



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Posted 08 November 2013 - 03:29 AM

1. Why Tri? 2. Mobile ballast? 3.Regenerative sailing? Any programming need for evasive manuvers? (storms, ships, sharks....)



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Posted 08 November 2013 - 05:19 AM

Good job on your mission to date, good luck in the future. As noted above, your vessel/robot really slowed at the end of its voyage, problems?

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Posted 08 November 2013 - 06:52 AM

I think I read it was self righting.  How does that work with a wingsail on a tri fully inverted?

 

 

1. Why Tri? 2. Mobile ballast? 3.Regenerative sailing? Any programming need for evasive manuvers? (storms, ships, sharks....)

 

The Saildrone's hydrodynamic design is a hybrid, combining the best features of mono- and multi-hulls. The result is a fully self-righting platform, that also benefits from high righting moments for speed and wave piercing capabilities to reduce pitching and energy absorption from waves.

 

I'm guessing that the 6 ft keel is heavy enough and the 20 foot wing is buoyant enough that it is not stable either upside down or on it's side, which is what I think they mean by "fully self-righting".



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Posted 08 November 2013 - 06:57 AM

As for the speed, it looks to me like they not only had a lot of wind at the beginning, but they had to do a lot more tacking from about 40% of the way on.  It is not exactly the height of the season for sailing to HI, and the route is pretty straight, which I gather would be very slow in the middle of a typical Pac Cup.



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Posted 08 November 2013 - 12:53 PM

Hi,

 

first-time participant.  im actually just starting a project on a sail drone for oil clean up at TU Delft.  this project is very interesting for me.

 

This is a question about the design process.  How did you come up with the range of wind speeds that you deemed 'operational', 'survival', and 'act of god'.  And as the design developed, was the survival mode paramount? When, on the other hand, the thing should make progress in moderate/light wind?

 

Thanks,

 

Nico

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TU Delft



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Posted 08 November 2013 - 01:49 PM

Another Q - 

 

Does Saildrone use weather routing software that takes into account forecasts (similar to that on racing yachts), to optimise its route? or would this be done my the shore team sending new routing instructions?



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Posted 08 November 2013 - 03:52 PM

Any more?  We'll be getting it on in an hour.



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Posted 08 November 2013 - 06:46 PM

Does the drone transmit it's location on AIS?  

Does it use an AIS receiver to try to avoid collisions?

Does it have any other sensors to detect other traffic?

.

 

...can these systems be used to detect and avoid other traffic? :rolleyes:



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Posted 08 November 2013 - 11:35 PM

I think I read it was self righting.  How does that work with a wingsail on a tri fully inverted?

 

 

>1. Why Tri? 2. Mobile ballast? 3.Regenerative sailing? Any programming need for evasive manuvers? (storms, ships, sharks....)

 

The Saildrone's hydrodynamic design is a hybrid, combining the best features of mono- and multi-hulls. The result is a fully self-righting platform, that also benefits from high righting moments for speed and wave piercing capabilities to reduce pitching and energy absorption from waves.

 

I'm guessing that the 6 ft keel is heavy enough and the 20 foot wing is buoyant enough that it is not stable either upside down or on it's side, which is what I think they mean by "fully self-righting".

 

 

I guess I didn't read thoroughly enough...  I too would suspect that a 6' draft keel would suffice for self righting on that little thingy.



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Posted 09 November 2013 - 04:40 AM

Did the wing come out of the GreenBird mold? 



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Posted 09 November 2013 - 09:24 AM

What was the top speed?

Would you consider a circumnavigation?

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Posted 09 November 2013 - 09:26 AM

What was the top speed?

Would you consider a circumnavigation?

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Posted 09 November 2013 - 09:26 AM

What was the top speed?

Would you consider a circumnavigation?

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 09:43 AM

I think I read it was self righting.  How does that work with a wingsail on a tri fully inverted?

 

 

>1. Why Tri? 2. Mobile ballast? 3.Regenerative sailing? Any programming need for evasive manuvers? (storms, ships, sharks....)

 

The Saildrone's hydrodynamic design is a hybrid, combining the best features of mono- and multi-hulls. The result is a fully self-righting platform, that also benefits from high righting moments for speed and wave piercing capabilities to reduce pitching and energy absorption from waves.

 

I'm guessing that the 6 ft keel is heavy enough and the 20 foot wing is buoyant enough that it is not stable either upside down or on it's side, which is what I think they mean by "fully self-righting".

 

This is the question I would like to have answered, in theory a larger version of this would be my ideal boat. How did they decide on the balance of keel weight if there is any and the size of the floats, or is it just a dagger board full of water? Is there a pumping action as well, filling and then emptying floats to right it? At what wind strength is the boat un-controllable? i.e with the wing feathered the boat just keeps capsizing or what technique have they evolved to keep this in check?



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Posted 10 November 2013 - 02:49 PM

All answered!  A great interview and I should have it done tonight.



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Posted 10 November 2013 - 04:08 PM

All answered!  A great interview and I should have it done tonight.


It's getting close to Monday...

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 04:53 PM

WTF are you on about?  



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Posted 13 November 2013 - 06:52 AM

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...is it true this project was funded by the Columbian drug cartels?!? :mellow:   :rolleyes:

 

no that's the silent submarine glider one

 

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh  :o  :o  :o



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Posted 18 November 2013 - 09:36 PM

Is it just me or has the interview not been posted. If Im being thick and have missed it, could someone point me in the right direction. Cheers



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Posted 20 November 2013 - 09:29 PM

Palmyra, Fanning, Christmas?  Drone stop over?



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Posted 20 November 2013 - 10:23 PM

Great accomplishment.  Amas (floats) look too small.  Main hull is under water much of the time.  Where's the interview?



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Posted 23 November 2013 - 01:21 AM

I think small amas are to allow self righting.  Looks like Palmyra is the current target.  TNC delivery?







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