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#1 southseasbill

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Posted 05 December 2013 - 10:39 PM

After talking to sponsors.

 

http://www.stuff.co....as-Cup-campaign

 

"They felt the America's Cup final itself rescued the event."

 

"But there had been a consensus that the Louis Vuitton Cup series needed to be bolstered moving forward, with more teams crucial for competitiveness and exposure."



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Posted 05 December 2013 - 11:07 PM

"The reception from the sponsors was very, very good," Dalton said.

(me) That's a very, very encouraging statement. Later, he may have indicated he hasn't even needed to speak to others behind in line also wanting to get on board, possibly suggesting there will be no room or even need for them:


Dalton revealed there had been some interest from potential new sponsors though he was yet to sit across a table with them.

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Posted 06 December 2013 - 06:39 AM

Dalton is the CEO again...
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Dalton will spin what the NZ government will want to hear.

Where is the Audit, review and seeking of interest from other CEO's and management?

Any other organization would go to the market and see what alternative are available rather than settle with people with a proven losing record.

Seems to me the process is faulty and TNZ is a closed shop controlled by a clique that does not want to be challenged and or shown up as the losers they are.

TNZ is really TGD Team Grumpy Dalton

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Posted 06 December 2013 - 07:29 AM

For us oracle fans it is great news that Dalton is still around going to get the money and come back. We want to kick his ass again. Actually I want to see Ainslie kick his ass in the challenger series.

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Posted 07 December 2013 - 05:59 AM

Dalton is the CEO again...
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Dalton will spin what the NZ government will want to hear.

Where is the Audit, review and seeking of interest from other CEO's and management?

Any other organization would go to the market and see what alternative are available rather than settle with people with a proven losing record.

Seems to me the process is faulty and TNZ is a closed shop controlled by a clique that does not want to be challenged and or shown up as the losers they are.

TNZ is really TGD Team Grumpy Dalton

For gods sake...   Dalton won the AC by 9 to 3 but for the time limit... and then eventually lost it 11-8.   Both are extremely honorable scorelines for him and TNZ.    Things could have gone their way at several points during the comeback... but they didn't.

 

But as a leader, he put his team in a position where they were competitive enough that any turn of luck during 8 races, and they would have had the cup.

 

True that it didn't work out that way.  But they were beyond competitive.  That is all you can ask of a leader.

 

You seem to expect him to deliver an unassailable advantage.  Good luck with that.  That wouldn't be competitive sport.  It would be professional wrestling.



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Posted 07 December 2013 - 07:30 AM

Exactly, some of the best sailors in the world have lost the cup

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Posted 07 December 2013 - 08:11 AM

Great points Finnfart.



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Posted 07 December 2013 - 08:17 AM

And most leave



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Posted 07 December 2013 - 09:04 AM

Exactly, some of the best sailors in the world have lost the cup

what utter bullshit. Only the best sailors winn it. All others were/are not the best.

Dalton has failed twice. barker lost the cup once and has subsequently not won it twice.

They have a very bad record of failure.

For anyone to say this latest campaign is good are just dreaming.

To have a advantage and not nail the win is worse than being of the pace from day one. To do it with a two race advantage against a boat with crew DSQ's, a major boat failure, and handling issues is embarrassing.

For anyone to say they had bad luck is bullshit. You make your own luck.

I don,t here anyone saying OR had bad luck. They had bad situations and turned them around. ETNZ had less bad situations and fell asleep at the wheel.

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Posted 07 December 2013 - 09:09 AM

Dalton is the CEO again...
Yip!
C- choking
E- extraordinare
O- organizer.
Dalton will spin what the NZ government will want to hear.

Where is the Audit, review and seeking of interest from other CEO's and management?

Any other organization would go to the market and see what alternative are available rather than settle with people with a proven losing record.

Seems to me the process is faulty and TNZ is a closed shop controlled by a clique that does not want to be challenged and or shown up as the losers they are.

TNZ is really TGD Team Grumpy Dalton

For gods sake...   Dalton won the AC by 9 to 3 but for the time limit... and then eventually lost it 11-8.   Both are extremely honorable scorelines for him and TNZ.    Things could have gone their way at several points during the comeback... but they didn't.

 

But as a leader, he put his team in a position where they were competitive enough that any turn of luck during 8 races, and they would have had the cup.

 

True that it didn't work out that way.  But they were beyond competitive.  That is all you can ask of a leader.

 

You seem to expect him to deliver an unassailable advantage.  Good luck with that.  That wouldn't be competitive sport.  It would be professional wrestling.

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Posted 07 December 2013 - 01:42 PM

Well done Finnfart.

 

Thought about putting something similar up - but as the place is mostly inhabited now by self-congratulatory posters busy rewriting history so it seemed pointless.

 

ETNZ was not ahead for half the cup cycle as stated above but for almost 100% of it. The idea that they were behind from the beginning was shown to be dubious as soon as B1 foiled and then shot down completely once we saw the pasta special launched by OTUSA.

 

By abandoning most of their own ideas after the Orpocylpse and doing a C&P of the ETNZ boats, OTUSA dragged themselves back from complete humiliation. Then by the incorporation of a mechanism that is arguably against the class rule, a brilliant last second reconfiguration of their boat and crew and finally learning how to get the most out it, they pulled off one of the most amazing comebacks in sport, retaking the advantage for the last 0.x% of the event.

 

To pretend that that there was anything inevitable about the win, that OTUSA didn't come within a whisker of losing it, or that their opposition in the match is deserving of ridicule is clearly the preserve of trolls.

 

Unfortunately the dubious ethics of the 34th AC have now been bequeathed to the 35th,  with the insider deal that resulted in the choice of COR and her CEO - big business style, not sport - there's certainly nothing to be proud of in that.



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Posted 07 December 2013 - 01:53 PM

Well done Finnfart.

 

Thought about putting something similar up - but as the place is mostly inhabited now by self-congratulatory posters busy rewriting history so it seemed pointless.

 

ETNZ was not ahead for half the cup cycle as stated above but for almost 100% of it. The idea that they were behind from the beginning was shown to be dubious as soon as B1 foiled and then shot down completely once we saw the pasta special launched by OTUSA.

 

By abandoning most of their own ideas after the Orpocylpse and doing a C&P of the ETNZ boats, OTUSA dragged themselves back from complete humiliation. Then by the incorporation of a mechanism that is arguably against the class rule, a brilliant last second reconfiguration of their boat and crew and finally learning how to get the most out it, they pulled off one of the most amazing comebacks in sport, retaking the advantage for the last 0.x% of the event.

 

To pretend that that there was anything inevitable about the win, that OTUSA didn't come within a whisker of losing it, or that their opposition in the match is deserving of ridicule is clearly the preserve of trolls.

 

The dubious ethics of the 34th AC have now been bequeathed to the 35th,  with the insider deal that resulted in the choice of the COR and her CEO - big business style, not sport - there's certainly nothing to be proud of in that.

 

If you believe this quote of yours, then you believe the Measurers and the Jury are incompetent, which would be necessary extension include kiwi Graham McKenzie.

 

the incorporation of a mechanism that is arguably against the class rule,



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Posted 07 December 2013 - 02:55 PM

Well done Finnfart.

 

Thought about putting something similar up - but as the place is mostly inhabited now by self-congratulatory posters busy rewriting history so it seemed pointless.

 

ETNZ was not ahead for half the cup cycle as stated above but for almost 100% of it. The idea that they were behind from the beginning was shown to be dubious as soon as B1 foiled and then shot down completely once we saw the pasta special launched by OTUSA.

 

By abandoning most of their own ideas after the Orpocylpse and doing a C&P of the ETNZ boats, OTUSA dragged themselves back from complete humiliation. Then by the incorporation of a mechanism that is arguably against the class rule, a brilliant last second reconfiguration of their boat and crew and finally learning how to get the most out it, they pulled off one of the most amazing comebacks in sport, retaking the advantage for the last 0.x% of the event.

 

To pretend that that there was anything inevitable about the win, that OTUSA didn't come within a whisker of losing it, or that their opposition in the match is deserving of ridicule is clearly the preserve of trolls.

 

The dubious ethics of the 34th AC have now been bequeathed to the 35th,  with the insider deal that resulted in the choice of the COR and her CEO - big business style, not sport - there's certainly nothing to be proud of in that.

 

If you believe this quote of yours, then you believe the Measurers and the Jury are incompetent, which would be necessary extension include kiwi Graham McKenzie.

 

the incorporation of a mechanism that is arguably against the class rule,

 

 

On that aspect of my post you make a strange point, given that these two bodies were at odds with each other at times.

 

 

But yes, the OTUSA board control system is arguable under the class rule* - why does that bring the competence of the officials into question?

 

It was argued, sort of, though not in the black and white manner one would have wished, but that was ETNZ's doing.

 

 

We were given plenty of reasons to question the MC's competence though, as you will know yourself.

 

 

19.2 

 

- The operation for (hydraulic valves) (used for the adjustment of .... daggerboards) shall not receive external input from any source other than manual input.

 

These systems ...  shall be hard wired between the manual inputs and the valve

 

OTUSA-test-bed-foil-control.jpg?format=7

 

Manual input: out of shot left, hydraulic valve for board control ram: top - so everything in between is dodgy! :)



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Posted 07 December 2013 - 03:05 PM

It appears Herbie is a cat, with 9 lives :)



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Posted 07 December 2013 - 03:25 PM

Exactly, some of the best sailors in the world have lost the cup

what utter bullshit. Only the best sailors winn it. All others were/are not the best.

Dalton has failed twice. barker lost the cup once and has subsequently not won it twice.

They have a very bad record of failure.

For anyone to say this latest campaign is good are just dreaming.

To have a advantage and not nail the win is worse than being of the pace from day one. To do it with a two race advantage against a boat with crew DSQ's, a major boat failure, and handling issues is embarrassing.

For anyone to say they had bad luck is bullshit. You make your own luck.

I don,t here anyone saying OR had bad luck. They had bad situations and turned them around. ETNZ had less bad situations and fell asleep at the wheel.

Dude, hand over the crack pipe and get some help.



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Posted 07 December 2013 - 03:32 PM

It appears Herbie is a cat, with 9 lives :)

Herbie lives again,again,again,again,again,again,again,again,again,

 

Shoot the fucker, it's a non issue.

 

Measuruers said so.

 

End of story.



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Posted 09 December 2013 - 01:55 AM

Well done Finnfart.

 

Thought about putting something similar up - but as the place is mostly inhabited now by self-congratulatory posters busy rewriting history so it seemed pointless.

 

ETNZ was not ahead for half the cup cycle as stated above but for almost 100% of it. The idea that they were behind from the beginning was shown to be dubious as soon as B1 foiled and then shot down completely once we saw the pasta special launched by OTUSA.

 

By abandoning most of their own ideas after the Orpocylpse and doing a C&P of the ETNZ boats, OTUSA dragged themselves back from complete humiliation. Then by the incorporation of a mechanism that is arguably against the class rule, a brilliant last second reconfiguration of their boat and crew and finally learning how to get the most out it, they pulled off one of the most amazing comebacks in sport, retaking the advantage for the last 0.x% of the event.

 

To pretend that that there was anything inevitable about the win, that OTUSA didn't come within a whisker of losing it, or that their opposition in the match is deserving of ridicule is clearly the preserve of trolls.

 

Unfortunately the dubious ethics of the 34th AC have now been bequeathed to the 35th,  with the insider deal that resulted in the choice of COR and her CEO - big business style, not sport - there's certainly nothing to be proud of in that.

 

 

The herbologists have left the building .

 

It was OR's narrow bows and no LET that won the day :)

 

Welcome back



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Posted 09 December 2013 - 11:25 AM

Woohoo, with Dalton back on board we have a great chance of coming second again.



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Posted 09 December 2013 - 01:07 PM

Woohoo, with Dalton back on board we have a great chance of coming second again. 

 

 A better chance than if you were running the show.



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Posted 09 December 2013 - 10:30 PM

Woohoo, with Dalton back on board we have a great chance of coming second again. 

 

 A better chance than if you were running the show.

I don't know about that. Daltons succes rate is a big fat ZERO from a total expenditure of over $650million over 13 years. that should not be to hard to beat.

 

i would say TKR has a better than even chance of being at least equal if not better that that gaint CHOKER.

 

i,d put money on TKR being no worse.... after all how could anybody be worse than  0 from three



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Posted 09 December 2013 - 10:40 PM

A least he has a job, two dicks.



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Posted 10 December 2013 - 08:22 AM

A least he has a job, two dicks.

That's a bit harsh. He has a job, its fulltime on here talking shit. 

 

AC does know a lot about choking. is it because AC has choked on a few



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Posted 10 December 2013 - 05:13 PM

Grant Dalton says Emirates Team New Zealand's future is looking positive and, importantly, he will be a part of it.


Read more: http://www.3news.co....x#ixzz2n5pS7B2i  discuss lolz


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Posted 10 December 2013 - 07:14 PM

Grant Dalton says Emirates Team New Zealand's future is looking positive and, importantly, he will be a part of it.


Read more: http://www.3news.co....x#ixzz2n5pS7B2i  discuss lolz

 

 

"We need to breed the new Dean Barkers"....

 

Time is tick tick ticking.



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Posted 11 December 2013 - 12:37 AM

fuller interview which is really informative with positive overtones about COR and future AC events, plus VOR campaign. http://www.3news.co....26/Default.aspx



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Posted 11 December 2013 - 07:58 AM

A least he has a job, two dicks.

That's a bit harsh. He has a job, its fulltime on here talking shit. 
 
AC does know a lot about choking. is it because AC has choked on a few

That admission that you read " my shit" just makes you look like a complete dork. If its shit then why do you read it?

Hoisted by your own stupidity there billy boy

Please point out what shit I talk instead I always trying to guess what I do and who I am.
Bill. You are entering the lofty ranks of super Muppet lifebouy 15. And I thought you were a bit smarter than that.

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Posted 11 December 2013 - 09:03 AM

We know who you are dickhead. You complained to the mods that I out you , shit for brains. As for shit that's all you write. Yes we all know you hate Baker and GD, you think all your country men are dickheads and you want to swollow sir Russell's sead. You have said it a million times. STFU!

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Posted 11 December 2013 - 09:40 PM

on Twitter,

 

Gently does it, the @EmiratesTeamNZ boats arrive back in #Auckland pic.twitter.com/cz96a29TtC



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Posted 12 December 2013 - 08:56 AM

Link not working, anyone has an other link, ore can anyone please upload it on youtube.....



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Posted 12 December 2013 - 08:58 AM

Not missing much - a picture of an obsolete losing AC72 in shrink wrap.



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Posted 12 December 2013 - 11:12 AM

^^  :D

 

Any news about a VOR entry ??



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Posted 12 December 2013 - 08:07 PM

^^  :D

 

Any news about a VOR entry ??

 

Not that I noticed.



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Posted 19 December 2013 - 08:13 PM

from http://www.dunedintv...gy-returns-home

Vid at the link

 

America's cup technology returns home

December 19, 2013 - 7:10pm

The America's cup may have stayed in San Francisco, but another piece of cup memorabilia has returned home to our shores.

A Dunedin company's augmented reality kiosks were used during the cup campaign, promoting New Zealand's industry.

After being set up in various locations in the Golden State, the kiosks are now available for all to see.



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Posted 19 December 2013 - 08:27 PM

also from NZ,

 

Glenn Ashby leads contingent of Emirates Team New Zealand members competing at the 2014 A-Class Catamaran World Championships

 

With two months until racing begins, the 2014 A Class Catamaran World Championships has already attracted an all-star line up of some of the world’s best sailors, keen to test their mettle against some great kiwi sailors. Organisers are now delighted to announce that a contingent of up to six members of Emirates Team New Zealand have also signed up to take part.

 

The Emirates Team New Zealand entrants will include Glenn Ashby, multihull specialist and wing trimmer. The holder of several significant multihull records, Ashby will be one to watch when racing begins in February. Originally a sail maker from Australia, Ashby  began his A-Class Catamaran sailing career at the age of 18. His employer at the time, offered to supply Ashby an A Class Catamaran for the 1996 World Championships if he could beat him in his first regatta held in NSW. He not only beat his boss, but he then went on to win the A-Class World Championships in Spain that year.

 

Ashby’s wins have included 14 world championships across three multi-hull classes, 3 in the Olympic Tornado catamaran, 3 in the Formula 18 catamaran and an ISAF multihull world championship and seven in the A Class catamaran, and at the start of 2012 he won the Australian A Class championships for an impressive tenth time. In more recent years post 2008 and a silver medal at the Beijing Olympics, Ashby has ventured into sailing and coaching in the Extreme 40 class and was head coach with BMW Oracle’s 90ft trimaran, for their win of the 33rd America’s Cup. Now with Emirates Team New Zealand for a second time, he is again a core member of the sailing team and is also deeply involved in the design process.

 

contd http://www.yachtingn...g.nz/node/17479



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Posted 19 December 2013 - 08:34 PM

Link not working, anyone has an other link, ore can anyone please upload it on youtube.....

BbLYLc-CIAAb-nW.jpg



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Posted 19 December 2013 - 09:37 PM

is anyone else getting the feeling Glenn might be holding the wheel next time?  The Kiwis seem very keen to talk him up and they may have needed a bit of a carrot to keep him on board.



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Posted 20 December 2013 - 12:59 AM

Quick, hit this link before Clean deletes a post of mine, for the second time in his life ;

Full interview: Grant Dalton reflects on America's Cup 2013

: http://www.3news.co....x#ixzz2nyLNslau

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Posted 20 December 2013 - 02:06 AM


^

"Wingsail"

What does he say at 4:23 right before "hopefully San Francisco"?

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Posted 20 December 2013 - 02:14 AM

^

"Wingsail"

What does he say at 4:23 right before "hopefully San Francisco"?

2017



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Posted 20 December 2013 - 02:27 AM


Thanks

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Posted 20 December 2013 - 05:52 PM

Video,

 

Breakfast Team Lean With Dean TVNZ December 20, 2013, 6:45 am

Dean Barker joins the Breakfast team in the studio and reflects on the America's Cup campaign.

http://nz.news.yahoo...lean-with-dean/

 



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Posted 20 December 2013 - 08:13 PM

What a "wet Blanket " interview of a guy who is all bullshit spin...

the Team.... what the FFFF??? only one signed and it still has two losing "key influencer's" leading the Chokefest... Namly Dalton and Barker.

The Brand... whats the fucking Brand??? Emirates, Nespresso, Sky Vodka.... or a losing TNZ. the Brand is bullshit spin for 'WE WANT MORE TAX PAYER MONEY"

"Still Raw".... Dean your life ha be in a state Of Raw!!!... it has to be considering the years of loses and missed opportunity..

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Posted 20 December 2013 - 11:37 PM

DB did nicely there, low key but cool enough.

It's nice to have both GD and DB doing publicity even if the subtext is also to help promote the cause, help build support for politicians who also promote the cause, support the TV channel's interests, etc, etc. BA is making constant headlines in the UK and there's a little from the S2H but most 'real' AC news and speculation lately has been from those two. All good.

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Posted 21 December 2013 - 03:29 AM

Must have had more media coaching as I have never seen him make such forced smiles. Noticed it in a previous interview.



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Posted 21 December 2013 - 05:49 AM

Wonder where they got the hint.

 

 

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Posted 21 December 2013 - 06:06 AM

DB did nicely there, low key but cool enough.
It's nice to have both GD and DB doing publicity even if the subtext is also to help promote the cause, help build support for politicians who also promote the cause, support the TV channel's interests, etc, etc. BA is making constant headlines in the UK and there's a little from the S2H but most 'real' AC news and speculation lately has been from those two. All good.

Low key!? Fuck me its not low key but low confidence from all the years of mediocrity!. Deep down he lacks the confidence and belief to be confident and a winner like coutts, Jimmy, Ainslie, or any winner.

The "nervous smile" bullshit is just his way of trying to appear confident. But deep down how has no confidence and is "going again" because he has no skills to do anything else. Pathetic really.

It seems to fool a few dipsticks around here though.

A full review needs to take place to ensure the best people and plans are in place. Failure to do this shows ignorance and a continued gravy train mentality that will lead to failure again.

And people give money to this losing team...? ... its the dumb leading the dumb...again.

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Posted 21 December 2013 - 06:46 AM

I love the fact that DB will "not have a beer with Jimmy". Pretty sure Jimmy wouldn't waste his time with the guy. Robert Scheit, Ben Ainslie, Tom Slingsby Nathan Outteridge or Dean Barker? Hmmm let me think about that for awhile



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Posted 21 December 2013 - 09:34 AM

Americas Cup  you are softening towards  TNZ you didn't mention choking this time! 



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Posted 21 December 2013 - 11:26 AM

What about Dalts and the 80 Omega watches he never gave to the boys? Was he shagging the office girl or Mandy? Would explain "choking" I guess



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Posted 21 December 2013 - 04:17 PM

is anyone else getting the feeling Glenn might be holding the wheel next time?  The Kiwis seem very keen to talk him up and they may have needed a bit of a carrot to keep him on board.

 

 

 

No (hope I'm wrong), although such a decision would to a degree leave a mark on Jimmy's confidence. 



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Posted 21 December 2013 - 09:33 PM

is anyone else getting the feeling Glenn might be holding the wheel next time?  The Kiwis seem very keen to talk him up and they may have needed a bit of a carrot to keep him on board.

 
 
 
No (hope I'm wrong), although such a decision would to a degree leave a mark on Jimmy's confidence. 

He was the best man for the job last AC but a dumb leader let a equally dumb Barker helm despite the dumb leader having big doubts in the dumb skippers ability....

Which in turn let wto the biggest CHOKE the world of sport has ever witnessed.

Meanwhile back on land, while dumb skipper was choking on the bay, dumb leader was counting the income he received and packing up his Omega's, whilst choking on certain Female relationship issues.

Then dumb leader made statements that the leadership needed to change and the dumb leadership that led to the worst Choke in history, cannot keep doing the same dumb things.

This followed by the top dog "dumb head honcho's hiding away and not calling for a comprehensive review of the failed chokers, their planning and their process.

Meanwhile dumb Kiwi's celebrated, well about 3000 dumb sucker choker supporters, ETNZ's supreme choke fest and Yachting NZ nominated EtnZ as a Team of the year finalist....

and the picture of complete dumb arse failure was complete....

But no... a group of Dalton "aka dumb leader" lovers started up a fund to get the trillons needed to support the CHOKERS in a quest to challenge in a AC not yet determined, in a boat not yet designed, with a crew not yet signed up and led by the worlds best CHOKERS aka Dumb Dalton and Barker....

... and how much have the raked in?...$4000? And where are all the supporters?..

Meanwhile in a deep circular Bunker in Wellington certain stupid choke supporters give the CHOKERS el supremo's five mill lion dollars after a quick chat and based on some "dumb arse" notion that it gives the "brand" 100% New Zealand" great profile.

Meanwhile in same bunker in Wellington the same people are in damage controlled regarding MILK POISIONING IN CHINA, POLLUTION ISSUES RUINING NZ'S IMAGE, IMPORTS EXCEEDING EXPORTS (for the first time in decades) and... many other major issues wrecking havoc with THE BRAND.

Meanwhile in Europe, amongst the powerhouse of marketing and manufacture is dumb supreme choker telling NZ that the money is coming. At the same time dumb skipper is "suffering from dementia" and still feeling RAW after taking a 110% bum poking from Oracle, Smiling like he had won something, and telling NZ I am a nice guy and ready to choke again!!!

And Kiwis wonder why they never win anything and their sports are going backwards.

Meanwhile the debt / stupidity at the round bunker in Wellington chokes the counties "Brand"

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Posted 21 December 2013 - 11:53 PM

DB did nicely there, low key but cool enough.
It's nice to have both GD and DB doing publicity even if the subtext is also to help promote the cause, help build support for politicians who also promote the cause, support the TV channel's interests, etc, etc. BA is making constant headlines in the UK and there's a little from the S2H but most 'real' AC news and speculation lately has been from those two. All good.


I wish DB would stop saying he won't have a beer with his competitors. What he does with his time is his prerogative, but the petty sniping is unnecessary and says more about him than anyone else.

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Posted 22 December 2013 - 01:03 AM

^ Seems to be a question that both JS and DB are only having to entertain because of the questions directed to them in Herbieville. They both just deal with that and other stupid questions as best they can.

It's gotta be tough but they both do well at giving the responses that are apparently being asked for, albeit with a touch of tone down.

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Posted 22 December 2013 - 01:05 AM


DB did nicely there, low key but cool enough.
It's nice to have both GD and DB doing publicity even if the subtext is also to help promote the cause, help build support for politicians who also promote the cause, support the TV channel's interests, etc, etc. BA is making constant headlines in the UK and there's a little from the S2H but most 'real' AC news and speculation lately has been from those two. All good.

I wish DB would stop saying he won't have a beer with his competitors. What he does with his time is his prerogative, but the petty sniping is unnecessary and says more about him than anyone else.


Agreed, DB should wipe away his tears and start acting like a grownup.

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Posted 22 December 2013 - 03:08 AM

DB did nicely there, low key but cool enough.
It's nice to have both GD and DB doing publicity even if the subtext is also to help promote the cause, help build support for politicians who also promote the cause, support the TV channel's interests, etc, etc. BA is making constant headlines in the UK and there's a little from the S2H but most 'real' AC news and speculation lately has been from those two. All good.


I wish DB would stop saying he won't have a beer with his competitors. What he does with his time is his prerogative, but the petty sniping is unnecessary and says more about him than anyone else.

Yip he is a weak and insecure boy in a tough mans world.

Daddy did everything for him and now the real world is to tough.

He still has not realized that all his power has come from "postional" and Decisional" positions rather than "personal " Power. Yip he thinks money will buy the solution and "fake tears" will win over the people. Just like he used to do to daddy when he wanted a new toy.

Sorry Dean! In the real world you have to work hard for the breaks! And not expect them to fall in your lap!

jimmy = man

dean = cry baby

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Posted 22 December 2013 - 03:46 AM

lets make it simple, may be he just doesn't want to drink beer with the other teams. Why does he have to?  He was sailing against them in a competition, I don't think anywhere in the rules it said thou must have a beer afterwards with your fellow competitors.  May be JS doesn't want a beer either, what the fuck has it got to do with us who they drink beer with?

 

I doubt many people would want to drink beer with Americas Cup after al the crap he has thrown at people.  they might offer him a cup of shut the fuck up.   



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Posted 22 December 2013 - 05:08 AM

lets make it simple, may be he just doesn't want to drink beer with the other teams. Why does he have to?  He was sailing against them in a competition, I don't think anywhere in the rules it said thou must have a beer afterwards with your fellow competitors.  May be JS doesn't want a beer either, what the fuck has it got to do with us who they drink beer with?
 
I doubt many people would want to drink beer with Americas Cup after al the crap he has thrown at people.  they might offer him a cup of shut the fuck up.   


Calm down billy boy. The heart pills can only do so much!

You are right Dean only drinks Champagne with the girls thus drinking beer with the boys would be seen as lowering his standards... of snobbery.

Actually Dean is supposed to be good mates with Jimmy.... but I think Deans only friend right now is his daddy. After all I do not see any of the ETNZ boys helping him out or backing him up right now!

The word around the dock is they are not interested in another AC with Dalton and Barker and are reviewing their market value and looking at their options.

Barker and Daltons team may be team Bolt on.... dark on.... nah!,, choke on.

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Posted 22 December 2013 - 05:08 AM

lets make it simple, may be he just doesn't want to drink beer with the other teams. Why does he have to?  He was sailing against them in a competition, I don't think anywhere in the rules it said thou must have a beer afterwards with your fellow competitors.  May be JS doesn't want a beer either, what the fuck has it got to do with us who they drink beer with?
 
I doubt many people would want to drink beer with Americas Cup after al the crap he has thrown at people.  they might offer him a cup of shut the fuck up.   


Calm down billy boy. The heart pills can only do so much!

You are right Dean only drinks Champagne with the girls thus drinking beer with the boys would be seen as lowering his standards... of snobbery.

Actually Dean is supposed to be good mates with Jimmy.... but I think Deans only friend right now is his daddy. After all I do not see any of the ETNZ boys helping him out or backing him up right now!

The word around the dock is they are not interested in another AC with Dalton and Barker and are reviewing their market value and looking at their options.

Barker and Daltons team may be team Bolt on.... dark on.... nah!,, choke on.

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Posted 22 December 2013 - 05:57 AM

Americas Cup, not only your repeat the same BS like a sick parrot but you also duplicate your drivel now ? :)

 

OK, another one...

 

Americas Cup, not only your repeat the same BS like a sick parrot but you also duplicate your drivel now ? :)



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Posted 22 December 2013 - 06:03 AM

lets make it simple, may be he just doesn't want to drink beer with the other teams. Why does he have to?  He was sailing against them in a competition, I don't think anywhere in the rules it said thou must have a beer afterwards with your fellow competitors.  May be JS doesn't want a beer either, what the fuck has it got to do with us who they drink beer with?
 
I doubt many people would want to drink beer with Americas Cup after al the crap he has thrown at people.  they might offer him a cup of shut the fuck up.   


Nobody said that he has to have a beer with Jimmy, but running around saying that you won't is petty and unnecessary.

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Posted 22 December 2013 - 07:44 AM

Americas Cup, not only your repeat the same BS like a sick parrot but you also duplicate your drivel now ? :)
 
OK, another one...
 
Americas Cup, not only your repeat the same BS like a sick parrot but you also duplicate your drivel now ? :)


TC to Houston... do you copy?

Houston: copy TC how can we help?

Tc: I think I just made a dick of myself by doing the same thing I blame others for!

Houston: copy that TC... system normal carry on.

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Posted 22 December 2013 - 04:36 PM

Americas Cup, not only your repeat the same BS like a sick parrot but you also duplicate your drivel now ? :)

 

OK, another one...

 

Americas Cup, not only your repeat the same BS like a sick parrot but you also duplicate your drivel now ? :)

 

 

Give him a season to cool down--you basically did the same last year, right?



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Posted 22 December 2013 - 08:33 PM

Americas Cup, not only your repeat the same BS like a sick parrot but you also duplicate your drivel now ? :)

 

OK, another one...

 

Americas Cup, not only your repeat the same BS like a sick parrot but you also duplicate your drivel now ? :)

 

 

Give him a season to cool down--you basically did the same last year, right?

 

"Any yacht" ??



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Posted 23 December 2013 - 06:05 PM

Fuck me, you boys are harsh on the Kiwis and each other on this thread.
Only a boat race fellas and one that's not happening for another 3 years!

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Posted 23 December 2013 - 09:56 PM

By: Brenton Vannisselroy | Tuesday, December 24, 2013 9:00 AM

Year in Review: Nothing Will Match the 34th America's Cup

The 34th Americas Cup was my sporting highlight of 2013 and Jimmy Spithill is my sports personality of the year.
The Cup match between Oracle Team USA and Emirates Team New Zealand had absolutely everything you could want in an event and was capped off by one of the greatest comebacks in sports history.

After a rather farcical and dull challenger series, the Americas Cup was non-stop drama. It started off the water when Oracle was docked two points for cheating during the world series, and continued once the racing started on San Francisco Bay.

http://www.radiospor...lroy-23dec-2013




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