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#1601 nav

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Posted 19 April 2017 - 05:21 AM

The 'gull wing' or 'stuka' style foil seems to be the new one. You see it in some of these shots.

 

The profile extends beyond the elbow and looks more 'exaggerated' than the profile outline shown....

 

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Do you mean a concave pressure (under)side like this or are you referring to something else?

 

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That trimmer needs a serious talking to 'Stop hiking bitch!', in French of course.....



#1602 Doug Lord

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Posted 19 April 2017 - 03:02 PM

"gull wing", "stuka" (hilarious) !! Isn't there a simpler name that covers that shape pretty well, huh?



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Posted 19 April 2017 - 04:39 PM


Board profile might even stray into supercritical territory. I remember when pictures of the OR tri for AC33 came out, people were convinced they were the wrong side up!

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Posted 20 April 2017 - 05:30 AM

"gull wing", "stuka" (hilarious) !! Isn't there a simpler name that covers that shape pretty well, huh?

 

https://en.wikipedia.../wiki/Gull_wing

 

gull wing. simple. already defined.



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Posted 20 April 2017 - 10:48 AM

Expect to see GullwinG® coined in 3, 2, 1 ...



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Posted 20 April 2017 - 02:49 PM

In French



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Posted 20 April 2017 - 02:57 PM

 

"gull wing", "stuka" (hilarious) !! Isn't there a simpler name that covers that shape pretty well, huh?

 

https://en.wikipedia.../wiki/Gull_wing

 

gull wing. simple. already defined.

 

 

UptiP= the proper definition on a foiler, don't you know nuthin?



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Posted 20 April 2017 - 03:47 PM

In French

https://youtu.be/Raw9egCagxc

You beat me to it. For all you non bilingual people: joysticks, buttons controlled wings, 2 hydarulic thingies, one for twist the other for cant. Aparrantly we're getting a sneak peak of the joystick next video :D

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Posted 20 April 2017 - 08:51 PM

Power Rangers

 

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Posted 20 April 2017 - 09:10 PM

Those electric Renaults look pretty nice but likely aren't street legal where I am, even on side streets.

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Posted 20 April 2017 - 09:15 PM

Those electric Renaults look pretty nice but likely aren't street legal where I am, even on side streets.

In Bermuda, they're a big step up from the damn scooters.



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Posted 20 April 2017 - 09:25 PM

 

"gull wing", "stuka" (hilarious) !! Isn't there a simpler name that covers that shape pretty well, huh?

 
https://en.wikipedia.../wiki/Gull_wing
 
gull wing. simple. already defined.
 
 
UptiP= the proper definition on a foiler, don't you know nuthin?
Shhhhh
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Enough bro, we get it.
We get it. Enough.
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#1613 nav

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Posted 21 April 2017 - 01:33 PM

Those electric Renaults look pretty nice but likely aren't street legal where I am, even on side streets.

 

I've heard they are working on a coal-fired version for the 'States.



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Posted 21 April 2017 - 01:37 PM

Those electric Renaults look pretty nice but likely aren't street legal where I am, even on side streets.

 

Golf carts, even with doors, are not street legal in our neck of the woods.   ;)


 

Those electric Renaults look pretty nice but likely aren't street legal where I am, even on side streets.

 

I've heard they are working on a coal-fired version for the 'States.

 

 

What do tractors run on in New Zealand?  Sheep piss?   ;)

 

WetHog   :ph34r:



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Posted 21 April 2017 - 03:03 PM

Interview with Franck

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https://translate.go...99n2_xxujvxclUQ

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Posted 21 April 2017 - 06:26 PM

At http://www.letelegra....php#closePopUp

Franck Cammas, rencontré en février dernier à lEcole Nationale de Voile et des Sports Nautique de Saint-Pierre-Quiberon avant quil ne senvole pour les Bermudes, présente les ambitions de Groupama Team France, le défi français, engagé dans la 35e Coupe de lAmérica. Les journalistes Gilbert Dréan et Philippe Eliès apportent leur expertise à ce rendez-vous grand public présentant le plus grand événement nautique planétaire.
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Posted 21 April 2017 - 07:34 PM

 

Those electric Renaults look pretty nice but likely aren't street legal where I am, even on side streets.

 

I've heard they are working on a coal-fired version for the 'States.

 

 

which in itself, is an advancement on any Harley



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Posted 21 April 2017 - 07:56 PM

Those electric Renaults look pretty nice but likely aren't street legal where I am, even on side streets.

 
I've heard they are working on a coal-fired version for the 'States.
 
which in itself, is an advancement on any Harley

Don't knock Harleys.
They give you all the noise and smell you want without having to worry about that annoying pointless power that would just ruin the genuine Harley experience.

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Posted 21 April 2017 - 08:29 PM

Those electric Renaults look pretty nice but likely aren't street legal where I am, even on side streets.

 
I've heard they are working on a coal-fired version for the 'States.
 
which in itself, is an advancement on any Harley
Don't knock Harleys.
They give you all the noise and smell you want without having to worry about that annoying pointless power that would just ruin the genuine Harley experience.

Harleys are a reflection of the USA mentality. Slow, noisey and hanging onto some twisted idea that they are good. Any moron who subscribes to the lifestyle is doomed to be judged a dumb arse.

I have yet to meet a Harley owner who's not a total meat head.
Oh, and FUCK the French.

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Posted 21 April 2017 - 08:30 PM

Interview with Franck

Gtran
https://translate.go...99n2_xxujvxclUQ

Quotes from the original version.

- we began 4 years later than other teams

- we are 3 to 5 hours on the water and working 12 hours a day, we progress quickly

- we go faster than some teams on a straight line but won't tell which ones.



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Posted 21 April 2017 - 08:49 PM

Those electric Renaults look pretty nice but likely aren't street legal where I am, even on side streets.

 
I've heard they are working on a coal-fired version for the 'States.
 
which in itself, is an advancement on any Harley
Don't knock Harleys.
They give you all the noise and smell you want without having to worry about that annoying pointless power that would just ruin the genuine Harley experience.
Harleys are a reflection of the USA mentality. Slow, noisey and hanging onto some twisted idea that they are good. Any moron who subscribes to the lifestyle is doomed to be judged a dumb arse.

I have yet to meet a Harley owner who's not a total meat head.
Oh, and FUCK the French.
Mhmmm, horrible timing for THAT comment mate ;) . Those terrorists just shot a french policemen at point blank range yesterday evening on Champs Ellysees. Any French viewers/users may find that comment more insulting than usual.

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Posted 21 April 2017 - 09:47 PM

Those electric Renaults look pretty nice but likely aren't street legal where I am, even on side streets.

 
I've heard they are working on a coal-fired version for the 'States.
 
which in itself, is an advancement on any Harley
Don't knock Harleys.
They give you all the noise and smell you want without having to worry about that annoying pointless power that would just ruin the genuine Harley experience.
Harleys are a reflection of the USA mentality. Slow, noisey and hanging onto some twisted idea that they are good. Any moron who subscribes to the lifestyle is doomed to be judged a dumb arse.

I have yet to meet a Harley owner who's not a total meat head.
Oh, and FUCK the French.
Mhmmm, horrible timing for THAT comment mate ;) . Those terrorists just shot a french policemen at point blank range yesterday evening on Champs Ellysees. Any French viewers/users may find that comment more insulting than usual.
Yep crap timing but then given how often the Muslims attack France when would be a good time?
Also he served in the a British military apparently , so hating the French is kinda just baked into him.

Personally I don't mind the frogs. Never met one I didn't get along with.

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Posted 22 April 2017 - 01:46 AM

I hope the French can get one or two races to encourage them to come again.



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Posted 22 April 2017 - 04:40 AM

 

Interview with Franck

Gtran
https://translate.go...99n2_xxujvxclUQ

Quotes from the original version.

- we began 4 years later than other teams

- we are 3 to 5 hours on the water and working 12 hours a day, we progress quickly

- we go faster than some teams on a straight line but won't tell which ones.

 

Like thats hard to guess... *cough* BAR *cough, cough*



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Posted 22 April 2017 - 05:07 AM

 

 

Interview with Franck

Gtran
https://translate.go...99n2_xxujvxclUQ

Quotes from the original version.

- we began 4 years later than other teams

- we are 3 to 5 hours on the water and working 12 hours a day, we progress quickly

- we go faster than some teams on a straight line but won't tell which ones.

 

Like thats hard to guess... *cough* BAR *cough, cough*

 

And what if it was OR, their first team to race ?

 

If so, they just have to work on stability and tacks, gybes seem OK now.



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Posted 22 April 2017 - 05:52 AM

So who is going home first - the frogs or the poms?



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Posted 22 April 2017 - 05:59 AM

Could be LIFO.

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Posted 22 April 2017 - 06:22 AM

So who is going home first - the frogs or the poms?

Surely it will be the French?

Even if they beat BAR twice, BAR take through their two ACWS points so it would be two points each, and in the event of a tie at the end of the RR then ACWS points are the tiebreaker.

I can't see the French beating anyone else.

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Posted 22 April 2017 - 06:59 AM

^
Agreed. Frogs home first.

#1630 Nutta

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Posted 22 April 2017 - 10:45 AM

Unless the massive failure in ORs foil design relegates the Japanese to the sixth place prize - a cargo class trip back to the land of the Rising Sun...

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Posted 22 April 2017 - 03:34 PM

Unless the massive failure in ORs foil design relegates the Japanese to the sixth place prize - a cargo class trip back to the land of the Rising Sun...


Reckon Oracle's foil design has been not a great success? Hope so.
I'm backing the Frenchies to beat Ben-dock GBR

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Posted 22 April 2017 - 04:33 PM

A video. In French but worth a watch
http://www.voilesetv...ourquoi-faire-/

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Posted 22 April 2017 - 05:00 PM

A video. In French but worth a watch
http://www.voilesetv...ourquoi-faire-/

^ From March 24, also on YT, includes subtitles

https://youtu.be/zvKuHxTuUw0

#1634 Doug Lord

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Posted 22 April 2017 - 05:25 PM

That was worth a view-thanks.



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Posted 22 April 2017 - 05:27 PM

The view of all the buttons was telling more than his talk, IMO



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Posted 22 April 2017 - 10:05 PM

Fond_d_Ecran-Groupama_Team_France-avril_



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Posted 23 April 2017 - 12:55 AM

Can't not love a white boat.



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Posted 23 April 2017 - 01:29 AM

Can't not love a white boat.

Not a huge fan of any of the paint jobs (probably like the Artemis paint job the most) but the GTF boat just looks bland to me.

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Posted 23 April 2017 - 01:37 AM

 

Can't not love a white boat.

Not a huge fan of any of the paint jobs (probably like the Artemis paint job the most) but the GTF boat just looks bland to me.

 

now if the fore sails where white ?!!



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Posted 23 April 2017 - 01:40 AM

^
ETNZ's boat is too much like a billboard, Japan, usa and french boats too bland.
Artemis hardly inspiring but at least the blue looks a bit distinguished.

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Posted 23 April 2017 - 08:23 AM

 

In French

You beat me to it. For all you non bilingual people: joysticks, buttons controlled wings, 2 hydarulic thingies, one for twist the other for cant. Aparrantly we're getting a sneak peak of the joystick next video :D

 

 

 

More exactly twist and camber. The most important part is the one behind the black square at the bottom of the wing, which he cannot show because it is the proprietary part of the design...

As you all most likely already know, Frank explains that they can put so much twist that the top of the wing is generating a righting moment instead of a heeling moment if necessary. The twist range has to be large, to compensate for the fact that they cannot take a reef.



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Posted 23 April 2017 - 10:38 AM

next....

 



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Posted 23 April 2017 - 01:44 PM

^

Unfortunately they look a little off the pace,

with behind the pack equipment,

But next AC watch out!



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Posted 23 April 2017 - 02:36 PM

From an aricle about GFT

 

 

Afterwards, those who go really fast in the breeze, are the Swedes of Artemis. Once, it was difficult to follow them with the motorboat. We were at 48 knots ... They hit the 47.6 knots at the peak!

 

 

and a funny translation here:

After the BAR English are completely down the street. They took 1'30 '' to 2 'by regatta. There, they changed the foils and they filled half of their delay. They had their racing foils and they did not move either the ass or the head.

 

 

Original

http://www.letelegra...17-11485732.php

 

Gtran

https://translate.go...opUp&edit-text=



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Posted 23 April 2017 - 03:03 PM

- TNZ feels very confident

- AR is above the other ones in high wind, difficult to follow then at 48 kts in a chase boat

- OR is good in all conditions, they are the best upwind and the sail very nicely the ww hull on ww. and abaout as fast as AR downwind between 18-20 kts

- TJ is close to OR.

- BAR is slow from "ass to head", even with their racing foils

- GTF is close in speed but lack consistency in general and in transition mainly. Hydro is a week point for us, we cannot afford to buy special valves at 18 000 euros. We lack training in high end of the wind spectre, so we hope to sailing medium. We began too late with limited budget. We hope to make a decent participation in order to be in a good position for next AC

- I like the new AC format but hate that only 2 persons are sailing, the other are just grinding.



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Posted 23 April 2017 - 04:12 PM

- TNZ feels very confident

- AR is above the other ones in high wind, difficult to follow then at 48 kts in a chase boat

- OR is good in all conditions, they are the best upwind and the sail very nicely the ww hull on ww. and abaout as fast as AR downwind between 18-20 kts

- TJ is close to OR.

- BAR is slow from "ass to head", even with their racing foils

- GTF is close in speed but lack consistency in general and in transition mainly. Hydro is a week point for us, we cannot afford to buy special valves at 18 000 euros. We lack training in high end of the wind spectre, so we hope to sailing medium. We began too late with limited budget. We hope to make a decent participation in order to be in a good position for next AC

- I like the new AC format but hate that only 2 persons are sailing, the other are just grinding.

 

Je crois que tu es français ,aussi je t'épargne mon piètre anglais . Peux tu m'expliquer ce que tu dis sur l'hydro et les valves? Merci!



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Posted 23 April 2017 - 04:21 PM

 

- TNZ feels very confident

- AR is above the other ones in high wind, difficult to follow then at 48 kts in a chase boat

- OR is good in all conditions, they are the best upwind and the sail very nicely the ww hull on ww. and abaout as fast as AR downwind between 18-20 kts

- TJ is close to OR.

- BAR is slow from "ass to head", even with their racing foils

- GTF is close in speed but lack consistency in general and in transition mainly. Hydro is a week point for us, we cannot afford to buy special valves at 15 000 euros. We lack training in high end of the wind spectre, so we hope to sailing medium. We began too late with limited budget. We hope to make a decent participation in order to be in a good position for next AC

- I like the new AC format but hate that only 2 persons are sailing, the other are just grinding.

 

Je crois que tu es français ,aussi je t'épargne mon piètre anglais . Peux tu m'expliquer ce que tu dis sur l'hydro et les valves? Merci!

 

Effectivement, la version originale de Bertrand Pacé:

 

"Aujourd'hui, on est un cran derrière tout le monde. En vitesse intrinsèque, nous ne sommes pas loin des premiers. Par contre, on n'arrive pas à être constant. Tant qu'on n'arrivera pas à être constant dans l'utilisation du bateau, on ne pourra pas prétendre à régater correctement. Il faut qu'on ait la maîtrise de la hauteur de vol, qu'on ait des commandes qui répondent correctement et précisément. Là, pour le moment, on découvre que les commandes ne réagissent pas aussi bien qu'on le souhaite. Il y a un décalage entre ce qu'on lui demande de faire et ce que le foil fait réellement. L'hydraulique ne répond pas toujours aux commandes. Il y a des valves qui coûtent 15.000 euros et on ne peut pas se les payer. Donc nous sommes limités."
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Posted 23 April 2017 - 04:42 PM

I forgot, during the Cup Bertrand Pacé mentions that the wind will become inconsistent, so, IMO, teams will best stability will have the advantage.



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Posted 23 April 2017 - 05:09 PM


^
Yes, these are the sailing conditions in Bermuda Francesco Bruni was talking about, at the time of his World Match Racing Tour win

^^
Hydraulic valves costing 15k each?? Anybody?

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Posted 23 April 2017 - 06:18 PM

Yeah, that caught my eye too. While it is undoubtedly possible to spend €15k on high-end proportional valves, solutions costing 1/10th (or less) can be used but with significant cost & effort to get comparable performance. A benefit of some quality proportional valves is built-in shuttle position feedback which could be useful for closed-loop rake control. However, one issue with proportional valves is they usually require continuous flow to operate, even when the valve is effectively closed. That flow wastes energy. 



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Posted 23 April 2017 - 06:56 PM


^
That's why I've always maintained that, with the possible exception of board raising/lowering, the entire control system should be electrical rather than hydraulic. All you need to do is look at the evolution of aircraft controls, it's a no-brainer

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Posted 23 April 2017 - 07:07 PM

^If that's true then why do all AC50s use hydraulic rake rams? 



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Posted 23 April 2017 - 07:55 PM

If TF can sort out a few things and maybe get an angel to pay for some valves it could be BAR going home first! (didn't even make it out of their pool, when the tournament was in their homeground!)



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Posted 23 April 2017 - 08:30 PM

^If that's true then why do all AC50s use hydraulic rake rams? 

 

Pretty sure it has something to do with simplicity, electric will require electric motors and those things are cumbersome and heavy, better off with a few hydraulic rams. Have a look at aircraft flaps/airbrakes and spoilers at landing. They all look hydraulically controlled to me, with the electrics ONLY sending the signal and activating the rams.



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Posted 23 April 2017 - 09:04 PM


^
Uh-uh. The evolution is from a centralized hydraulic system to local hydraulics powered by individual electric pumps to all-electric actuators on the latest planes

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Posted 23 April 2017 - 09:11 PM

^
Uh-uh. The evolution is from a centralized hydraulic system to local hydraulics powered by individual electric pumps to all-electric actuators on the latest planes

 

+1 Thanks for the info. 



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Posted 23 April 2017 - 09:13 PM

The 787 was nicknamed the 7E7 while still under consideration.
http://www.boeing.co...ticle_02_3.html

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Posted 23 April 2017 - 09:28 PM


^
Also this, for instance

http://cisb.org.br/w...itta Lantto.pdf

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Posted 23 April 2017 - 09:45 PM

From this Gtran

https://translate.go...a6kNcMstRTGBKxg
In Bermuda, Franck Cammas and his team prepare for the 35th America's Cup which begins in a month. Beyond the purely sporting result, the French are already preparing for the future

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Posted 23 April 2017 - 09:46 PM

^
Also this, for instance

http://cisb.org.br/w...itta Lantto.pdf



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Posted 23 April 2017 - 09:48 PM

^
The trip home?
Nah just kidding it would be nice to see the froggies become part of the AC long term.

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Posted 23 April 2017 - 09:54 PM

^
Also this, for instance

http://cisb.org.br/w...itta Lantto.pdf

Good one. P20 is off-topic but cool anyway.

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Posted 23 April 2017 - 10:15 PM

^

Great thank you X,Y

 

Wish I could send you something as inspiring.



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Posted 23 April 2017 - 10:19 PM

Correct me if I'm wrong but even the 787 uses hydraulic actuators, not electronic.

 

IMO this topic is worthy of its own thread - if for no other reason than GTF would be the least likely to adopt any new ideas proposed due to small team size and budget limitations.

 

That being said - Go Team France. ;)



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Posted 24 April 2017 - 02:27 AM

I root for GTF but I think they justify a bit too often lack of funding to hide lack of training.

 

That said, Go TNZ !



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Posted 24 April 2017 - 03:14 AM

^ TC off to France for 6-7 weeks in Sept  for the 5th time, any suggestions?  Little secret places off the tourist map?



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Posted 24 April 2017 - 03:30 AM

^ TC off to France for 6-7 weeks in Sept  for the 5th time, any suggestions?  Little secret places off the tourist map?

Obviously my favourite places are in Brittany, best place IF the weather is nice. Some suggestions that you may check on Google

 

- Roscoff : small privateer city, send me a pm if you go around in summer (July-August), I'll invite you for dinner chez Hélène :)

- Ile de Batz: most beautiful small island I have ever visited, in front of Roscoff

- Brignogan : small typical harbour, send me a pm too

- Brest: city destroyed during last ww but nice castle and Tour Tanguy, Moulin Blanc is harbour: go to eat at Le Tour de Monde, previously owned by Kersauson

- Concarneau: wonderful medieval city on an island, a bit too touristic in summer

- Lorient: the base for all french multis, the place where Oracle guys learnt how to sail multis before AC33. Go to eat at the restaurant "La Base"

 

If you want so see castles, visit the Vallée de la Loire, very calm, quiet and beautiful place, stop at Chenonceaux and Amboise.

 

South of france: visit the old city of Hyères, but I am not a specialist of southern france hidden treasures :(



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Posted 24 April 2017 - 03:58 AM

So we plan to spend 10days, 6th to 16th of September in Brittany.  Mostly a reccy for the next trip.  It is the off the tourist map places we love, markets, art, museums, things we don't have in Bay of Islands NZ where we live.

 

Thanks, I will do some research and come back to you.  We will be looking for a small village with partisary and a small inexpensive gite for a week or so.

 

Know any one who could swap a week in Brittany for a week in BOI.  They could look at www.boic.co.nz we have 4 cottages on the water front they could come outside our busy time maybe April or Nov would be good. My wife's French is OK.



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Posted 24 April 2017 - 01:41 PM

Planning for the future is where Luna Rossa was last cycle. Showing face, learning, building sponsor base, non-competitive. 



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Posted 24 April 2017 - 04:23 PM

First foiling tack?

https://mobile.twitt...488625202135040

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Posted 24 April 2017 - 04:56 PM

 

Does it look like their whole transition is manual, no accumulator power used? 

 

A guy on starboard (position 2, he comes across last-man onto port) appears to drop the new board, then after the boat settles appears to even set its rake before crossing over. Meanwhile in the port hull, position 2, a guy lifts the old board once it is close to the surface, flips a switch, then cants it in, then gets joined by the other guy, flips a switch, then continue grinding but now presumably to charge the accumulator. The other two grinders seem to work the wing, also manually.



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Posted 24 April 2017 - 06:22 PM

The French are doing amazingly well considering ...



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Posted 24 April 2017 - 07:40 PM

The French are doing amazingly well considering ...


Yup. No chance of winning the LVC but they do look good enough to shake some $$$ loose from sponsors for another tilt at the cup.

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Posted 24 April 2017 - 08:25 PM

Like Bertrand said in a recent article posted above, since they are showing good speed then there is at least still the potential that with improved transitions they could, possibly, take two wins off LRBAR. Which (assuming all other wins/losses between them are equal) would get GTF into the Semis despite LRBAR's 2 point going-in lead, because GTF will have won the head to head tiebreaker.

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Posted 24 April 2017 - 09:06 PM

The French are doing amazingly well considering ...


Agree, hope they win...






...AC36 from the kiwis:)

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Posted 24 April 2017 - 09:14 PM

How will they make it more about sailing and less about endurance?

 

I motor to provide foil adjustments and some wing control ?

 

flaps on the rear beam and wand for height control ?



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Posted 24 April 2017 - 10:48 PM

So we plan to spend 10days, 6th to 16th of September in Brittany.  Mostly a reccy for the next trip.  It is the off the tourist map places we love, markets, art, museums, things we don't have in Bay of Islands NZ where we live.

 

Thanks, I will do some research and come back to you.  We will be looking for a small village with partisary and a small inexpensive gite for a week or so.

 

Know any one who could swap a week in Brittany for a week in BOI.  They could look at www.boic.co.nz we have 4 cottages on the water front they could come outside our busy time maybe April or Nov would be good. My wife's French is OK.

Hi Kiwing,

I won't be there is september so will no have the opportunity so invite for a ride on a cat, or in a local bar :(

 

I went to see your cottages, they are incredibly charming in a paradisiac location.

However I don't know how to exchange it with french tourists. I could rent you my house, 70 m from the beach, but I have it in location by Interchalet. I would advise you to have a look, you could probably rent your cottages through their services to Europeans. I checked, they have nothing in NZ yet.

http://www.interchal...ppartements.cfm

 

Otherwise you can check Airbnb in the locations i gave you.

 

Enjoy your wonderful place, I am jealous !!! And let's hope a RR final between frogs and kiwis !



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Posted 24 April 2017 - 10:51 PM

Love this one, hope they found the trick.



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Posted Yesterday, 12:07 AM

Who is the fastest on a straght line, Artemis or GTF ? hard to tell, depending on the sequence it is one or the other. As far as we can see at that distance. Good news is that froggies are learning very quickly

Beginning at 1:01



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Posted Yesterday, 12:16 AM

That they are even in that game has to be very encouraging in today's debrief, AR is at the top of the pyramid going into this week.

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Posted Yesterday, 12:18 AM

After seeing it twice GTF seems a tad faster in those conditions combining both straight lines and transition Yes, encouraging.



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Posted Yesterday, 03:15 AM

After seeing it twice GTF seems a tad faster in those conditions combining both straight lines and transition Yes, encouraging.

I think GTF is actually pretty darn quick in straight line now, but wobbly as a drunk at closing time when they try and turn!



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Posted Yesterday, 03:32 AM

 

After seeing it twice GTF seems a tad faster in those conditions combining both straight lines and transition Yes, encouraging.

I think GTF is actually pretty darn quick in straight line now, but wobbly as a drunk at closing time when they try and turn!

 

Correct for the first part, but watching todays videos, excepted for a failed gybe, perfect foiling tacks all the time. And they finished ahead of AR with straight line AND tacks.

On the same day, AR seemed faster than OR (hard to tell though) and TJ.



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Posted Yesterday, 11:08 AM

looked like OR was playing with AR, burned up to them once and then faded back....for sure ETNZ  would have had fun with the radar gun out there today



#1685 barfy

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Posted Yesterday, 11:10 AM

oh, and GTF is improving at an amazing rate, I say again, FC is a cool customer. His vids, the little i understand, are standout in candour and clarity.







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