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#101 jimmy kneewrecker

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Posted 11 April 2014 - 11:21 AM

Here you go GS... looks like someone was listening to your request up there.  

 

I found these in my inbox this morning:

 

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#102 bruno

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Posted 11 April 2014 - 05:42 PM

Nice looking rig

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Posted 12 April 2014 - 02:08 AM

Great details. Stuff that will work. I hope we see one around here sooner rather than later.



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Posted 12 April 2014 - 09:56 AM

Where are you based FastYacht? I understand Luca and Rodney are in dialogue about international rollout stuff.... A bit of public interest might bump your locale up the list for demos etc.

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Posted 14 April 2014 - 11:15 AM

we've set-up the class association website for owners/future owners etc- it's early days, so don't expect much content until we get the boats and get some sailing nailed down - however feel free to check it out here-  

 

http://www.d-zerosailing.org

 

Naturally we'll keep the SA community updated on what we're up to.  



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Posted 27 April 2014 - 04:08 PM

Getting close to a North American dealer.  Am hoping to be in a position to make an announcement soon :)



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Posted 17 May 2014 - 09:15 PM

Here you go GS... looks like someone was listening to your request up there.  

 

I found these in my inbox this morning:

 

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any more new pics ? 

 

this dinghy is the fast one IMO 



#108 jimmy kneewrecker

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Posted 18 May 2014 - 03:18 PM

Here you go GS, I'll write something up with a bit more fullness next week when I pull together the proper video.  

 

This is just from the deck cam... apologies for the ugly buggers sailing in this one.

 

Bottom line- Holman and Devoti have hit the ball out the park for the easy-going beach boat for the 21st Century.  

 



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Posted 18 May 2014 - 04:07 PM

Is it possible to tack without kneeling?

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Posted 18 May 2014 - 06:10 PM

Is it possible to tack without kneeling?

Pretty sure my knee never touches the deck when I tack - probs a matter of personal style, like whether you have a knee down when going downwind. Its certainly not obligatory.

Cockpit depth / boom height very much in the ball park with that most famous singlehander so techniques/skills very much transferable, although I'd like to think better rewarded.



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Posted 18 May 2014 - 06:18 PM

Nice capsize sequence

 

Must be a POINTING sumbitch, looks like the boom comes in almost to centerline and still making good speed thru the water.

 

FB- Doug



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Posted 18 May 2014 - 08:03 PM

Russ was sailing with the traveller adjustment in a lot further than me, pointing higher for sure.  There's some adjustment clips coming in the main video, but yep, pointing and speed through the water upwind was not an issue.  The club hosting us had a club race going, 2 of the D-Zeros were taking part by members, I decided to hook around the last starter and 'see how I got on'... third by the windward mark.  Took out two Supernovas, a Laser EPS and myriad of a slow stuff- Lightnings, Byte CII etc.  Finished the downwind sections of the first lap holding position- something unheard of in my Solo as I am weapons-grade shit at offwind work.

 

As for the boom height knee thing- I'm 6ft, 98kg currently and haven't been in a dinghy since November.... so a bit brittle at the moment.  I dunno, I probably always tack like that when there's nothing in the way like a centreboard case.

 

I'm sure the whippets will be all over us in boat handling, but it's worth noting that the production boat is going to have the boom raised slightly (3cm- so not much) and there will be a bit more freeboard- I guess a bot more volume too by association.  I hope not too much though, it sits so nicely in the water as it is.

 

Frankly they were my nightmare conditions, light, flukey and sweating like a pig, but I had a lovely couple of sails and have no concerns about ponying up the rest of the cash to get one of my own on the water in due course.



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Posted 18 May 2014 - 08:24 PM

Jimbo (I think), re your comment "production boat is going to have the boom raised slightly (3cm- so not much) and there will be a bit more freeboard- I guess a bot more volume too by association. I hope not too much though, it sits so nicely in the water as it is.".
Are you sure about this? I sailed the boat last weekend and understood that the hull design is frozen for production?! The boom height was fine for me but I'm only 77kg and 1.8m.

#114 Daniel Holman

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Posted 18 May 2014 - 09:03 PM

Fellas,
Boom has been raised 30mm since dinghy show.
No more planned.
Hull frozen.
Deck moulding slightly different for production in the bailer treatment on cockpit floor, and deck will be 10mm higher to accommodate this - should feel identical.
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Posted 18 May 2014 - 09:06 PM

You can deffo pull the traveller too high as well. 400mm off centre is not a bad place until it gets breezy

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Posted 18 May 2014 - 09:08 PM

Can you stick a batten on transom to catch the sheet so our old skills will still matter? Pretty smooth flow along the leeward rail.

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Posted 18 May 2014 - 09:18 PM

Extra 1cm for droopy bum sounds good :-)

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Posted 18 May 2014 - 09:35 PM

Fellas,
Boom has been raised 30mm since dinghy show.
No more planned.
Hull frozen.
Deck moulding slightly different for production in the bailer treatment on cockpit floor, and deck will be 10mm higher to accommodate this - should feel identical.
Dan


Sounds perfect. I loved the Punk when I tried it a couple years back, but did think that if I was being uber fussy having the boom literally just an inch higher would have been perfect. Looking forward to Oxford next week!

What's with the black sail on the other one in the background? Which is the 'proper' sail?

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Posted 18 May 2014 - 09:59 PM

I am honestly unsure which sail is the "proper" one. They both felt and looked (shApe wise) identical to me when I tried them the other weekend.
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Posted 19 May 2014 - 06:23 AM

The dark grey one's material was a little softer- personally I preferred it, but the controls were set-up perfectly on that boat and it had a thinner mainsheet- loads of feedback and connection.  It's a bit difficult to describe, for those that windsurf, it feels like the difference between planing in the straps and harness first time over just the harness- everything just connects together nicely and it does exactly what you want it to- all four limbs engaging with the boat/board response properly.  You don't feel like you're just a payload like you do on some boats.

 

And I think that grey ail looks pretty sick.  No deal break though if the powers that be decide to stick to something a little more conservative.



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Posted 19 May 2014 - 05:02 PM

Here's the full video from Saturday... flame away  :)

 



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Posted 19 May 2014 - 05:16 PM

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......looking well powered and responsive for a centre-strap hiker,,

..........melikes it's glide in the light winds.

 

 

 

 

...and good 'cheese-shot's

....funny thing,,the picture of the H~~~ that people remember the most, is the.... 'chick in bikini,,holding the hull',,

,,,,even though she was in a wetsuit! :lol:



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Posted 19 May 2014 - 05:37 PM

You can say HOOT HOOT HOOT all you like mate- no commercial agenda here, I just want to spread some love and get some poeple in them to race against. Your project's coming on nicely- somewhat different intention to the D-Zero, although our big sister might give you a dog's bum face smile ;-)

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Posted 19 May 2014 - 06:16 PM

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....they're all different boats,,,all lovely in their own ways-each with their own specific flavors!

 

.....I like to comment as a fan of boats and their evolution,,,really hope that sailors evolve along with all these cool designs! ;)



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Posted 20 May 2014 - 01:55 PM

you hit the nail on the head regarding the gliding aspects.... my hunt for light wind windsurf equipment is now redundant.  



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Posted 20 May 2014 - 04:23 PM

Would love to see a comparison between the D-zero and the Aero. Both look great (from the other side of the Atlantic).



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Posted 20 May 2014 - 08:28 PM

Other than the obvious timing and potential for partisan shit-fighting on the internet, it would be a pretty futile exercise imho... both appear to be going about things in totally different ways, even if the end goal is pretty much the same.  

 

One is a conservative approach by a professional consortium, capitalising on what made one of the best selling beach boats of last century so great, whilst simplifying and applying 21st century improvements and ergonomic design into the mix.  The Punk will always be pretty special, the D-Zero is a realistic production version.  In pragmatic terms- I did loads of light wind gybes, utterly out of practice, but didn't catch my mainsheet once!!!

 

The other is far more avant-garde - loaded with design features/marketing gimmicks depending on you point of view.   3 sails... very low all up sailing weight... short waterline length and mast position... some strange trimming to the foils I'm sure there's a technical explanation for... funky mast from a windsurf factory... dacron sails (retro whooaa, will it catch on...) Best thing you can do for the Aero is take one for a sail and make your own mind up.  I simply can't see it being something everyone loves, but that doesn't mean it's not great in its own right.  Other buggers views are probably pretty pointless on something that will challenge everything you think you know about small unarig single handers.

 

As for the Zero... it's pretty much everything you wanted someone to do to the Laser.  Then they've given it a little more power and performance as its not restricted to appeasing the incumbent class politic.  I guess you have to be in the mindset that this is type of easy going boat you want.  If it has an achilles heel, thats it:  you need to get the other crap out your system first - tweaking rigs, bimbling, trapezes, kites, racks, monster rigs, 20 knot spikes on your GPS etc.  It's utterly gimmick free, and to the best of my experimentations, vice free too.  Would you even bother with a tactick on it?  

 

It also looks lush... and personally, I need to like the look of a boat to get the full ownership experience from it.  I can't say I find the Aero as visually appealing- certainly not when you get a fully grown western adult male into it, nice boat for all the family on a car-top holiday though... modern Topper / Sunfish maybe?

 

They're pretty much chalk and cheese.... but who knows, perhaps we can all race together one day and swap boats for the afternoon?  Seems like a much better attitude than the past sabre rattling on forums between the various fanboys and builder reps.



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Posted 21 May 2014 - 01:44 AM

Partisan shit fight on SA?

Impossible!

 

:rolleyes:



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Posted 21 May 2014 - 02:34 AM

Would love to see a comparison between the D-zero and the Aero. Both look great (from the other side of the Atlantic).

 

 

Other than the obvious timing and potential for partisan shit-fighting on the internet, it would be a pretty futile exercise imho...

[… snip +400 words comparing the two boats …]

 

Pleased to see futility didn't prevent posting of an interesting comparison. :blink:



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Posted 21 May 2014 - 06:23 AM

did i say which was better / faster in usual fanboy mode?



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Posted 29 May 2014 - 07:49 AM

Just a few pictures of the first production D-Zero, more soon of it sailing  :)

 

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Posted 30 May 2014 - 05:27 AM

Looks good, what is the dagger chord length please?

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Posted 30 May 2014 - 08:42 AM

11.032 inches, or 280mm in metric speak, if memory serves.

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Posted 30 May 2014 - 11:01 AM

Looks very, very nice. I'm surprised how powered up it is in the light air.
No drink holder?

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Posted 30 May 2014 - 02:12 PM

Looks very, very nice. I'm surprised how powered up it is in the light air.
No drink holder?

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  ...........I don't believe DH would have missed on that!

 

....if one looks closer you'll see the boat is actually designed around the drink-holder ,,it's central location behind the c.b.,,featuring a full-flow cooling system,,,and has a strap over top so the chances of a spill are greatly reduced on capsize!!  :)

 

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Posted 31 May 2014 - 02:19 AM

^thanks

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Posted 31 May 2014 - 04:38 PM

Talking of Holman...



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Posted 31 May 2014 - 04:56 PM

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...a proud moment ^^...................congrats Dan!

 

                          ...I love the drama as he's putting his gloves on!

 

 

 

...a couple of things I noticed **.....

..........there was a couple of times that I noticed one or another control line was madly oscillating near the mast -----is there any way you might rectify this?  :mellow:

 

...and that gybe,,where the end of boom hit the water --who's going to buy a boat that does this??  :o

 

 

 

.......**,,,,a testimony to 'BB'  



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Posted 02 June 2014 - 08:40 PM

Classic.  8^)

 



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Posted 02 June 2014 - 09:01 PM

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...a proud moment ^^...................congrats Dan!

 

                          ...I love the drama as he's putting his gloves on!

 

 

 

...a couple of things I noticed **.....

..........there was a couple of times that I noticed one or another control line was madly oscillating near the mast -----is there any way you might rectify this?  :mellow:

 

...and that gybe,,where the end of boom hit the water --who's going to buy a boat that does this??  :o

 

 

 

.......**,,,,a testimony to 'BB'  

The wobbling rope is the halyard tail (below the lock) which is tidied on an elastic - could tie it tighter. Or tape it.

I would say that any boat worth sailing will finish a light or medium gybe with a splash of boom end in the water. Old laser habits die hard. Could be easily remedied by rolling less or over sheeting or some such.



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Posted 02 June 2014 - 11:40 PM

Classic.  8^)
 


Hate it when that happens!!

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Posted 03 June 2014 - 01:16 AM

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...a proud moment ^^...................congrats Dan!

 

                          ...I love the drama as he's putting his gloves on!

 

 

 

...a couple of things I noticed **.....

..........there was a couple of times that I noticed one or another control line was madly oscillating near the mast -----is there any way you might rectify this?  :mellow:

 

...and that gybe,,where the end of boom hit the water --who's going to buy a boat that does this??  :o

 

 

 

.......**,,,,a testimony to 'BB'  

The wobbling rope is the halyard tail (below the lock) which is tidied on an elastic - could tie it tighter. Or tape it.

I would say that any boat worth sailing will finish a light or medium gybe with a splash of boom end in the water. Old laser habits die hard. Could be easily remedied by rolling less or over sheeting or some such.

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.... was bluffing you danny-boy,,,sorry 'bout dat!...looks -great-!!  ;)



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Posted 03 June 2014 - 01:38 AM

Great looking boat, looking forward to trying one in the future. We used to debate whether to leave the halyard loose along the sail or taut in front of the mast, which interfered with the flow more, matter of taste I guess. Like the gooseneck.

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Posted 04 July 2014 - 10:40 AM

A group of us test sailed the D-Zero at the weekend on Grafham Water, our home club, one of the larger lakes in the centre of England. We were fortunate in that it was also an RS-Aero demo day, enabling us to compare the boats in similar conditions, and on the same stretch of water. On the Saturday we sailed in 5kts, gusting up to 8kts at times and on the Sunday it was blowing between 10 and 14kts. A couple of the guys also raced the boats on the Sunday in the club regatta, with others sailing during the lunch break and also 3 people going for a sail after the racing.

 

The net result was that 3 of us were impressed enough by the boat to place orders at this early stage, with quite a few others showing initial interest.

 

Some of the comments overheard:-

 

"It answers all the questions that the Laser never has"

 

"It sailed like a turbo-charged Laser but with all the vices removed"

 

"The hiking position is brilliant - it was so good it felt like cheating!"

 

The boats we sailed were the pre-production prototypes and looked good, very neat and tidy. Mast and boom looked very nice quality kit, with a very well made North laminate sail, of 8.1 metres. Rudder and sheet loading were very light and the boat tracked very well upwind, with great response. Downwind the boat was very rewarding, with impressive acceleration. There is some spray but you feel as though you are over the top of it, rather than in it. On the dead run the boat sailed well deep by the lee like a Laser.

 

Overall the boat is a very impressive package and we felt a degree of comfort with the reputation of the builder and the UK distributor, in my case enough to commit to the class after 40 years in the Laser.

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Posted 04 July 2014 - 11:06 AM

Did anyone sail both boats and if so, how did people feel the Aero compared?

Any suggestions of minimum competitive weight for the D-Zero since (I think) there isn't the option of a smaller rig?

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Posted 04 July 2014 - 11:15 AM

That looks very nice indeed !   I really like the sheeting arrangement with the traveler giving the angle of sheeting and the main sheet tightening the leach without the kicker being wound up to the max.  It gives a nice low ( and efficient ???) boom which I guess springs up when the main sheet is released to tack.    

 

My hunch is 8 sq.m of sail is about spot on for this narrowish (1.4 m beam), lightweight  hiker.   By comparison, the RS300 is   2.0 m wide and has 10 sq.m of sail which pretty much gets you fully hiked in 8 knots.

 

The boat is clearly very, very well thought out and the I can't wait to see these popping up in club racing.



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Posted 04 July 2014 - 11:33 AM

Looks like a couple of people posted video from two weeks ago. 

 

 



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Posted 04 July 2014 - 11:34 AM

Several of us sailed both boats on the Saturday, they're certainly very different boats.

 

Concerning weight, I'm around 75kg at the moment and felt I could be competitive in Sunday's breeze of up to 14kts, if a little light. I suspect 80kg would be a good mid-range weight across a range of wind conditions, with 75kg being minimum weight on open water conditions, depending of course upon height and fitness. I wouldn't be surprised if Devoti were to develop a smaller rig in the not too distant future, given the potential market sub-70kg.



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Posted 04 July 2014 - 11:40 AM

^

Very different boats in what way? I'm asking because I've only seen and sailed the Aero. At 75Kg (which happens to be my fighting weight!) you could have gone for the Aero 7m but obviously preferred the D-Zero. Why was that?

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Posted 04 July 2014 - 12:07 PM

^

 

It was certainly beneficial to have a sail of both boats. We preferred the D-Zero which for slightly more money is a very nice racing machine with a highly efficient rig. As long term Laser sailors it fitted our requirements precisely.



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Posted 04 July 2014 - 12:31 PM

Getting close to a North American dealer.  Am hoping to be in a position to make an announcement soon :)


So... Any news of when or where our side of the pond can check these boats out?

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Posted 04 July 2014 - 06:30 PM

I don't think anyone wants to get into the game of knocking one boat in favour of the other, they are both fantastic new boats with great features. The Aero probably has it with the bells and whistles and certainly off wind speed, the Zero has it as a committed racers shift hunter, as a not particularly skilled boat handler, but good racer, I found I could keep my head 'out of the boat' more easily on the upwind leg with the D Zero than the Aero, you need to be a pretty skilled helm to keep it in the groove upwind, and it's quite hard work and needs more concentration than I have.

Down wind probably the opposite is the case and i think the Zero will probably need more work, but that I find easier being a short light weight.

They'll be horses for courses and it's really great to have the choice. The Aero has to my mind the disadvantage of having to choose between a really powerful 9mtr or a tad too small 7m (If you're average weight)and the Zero rig is probably the more sophisticate of the two, whereas the Aero appears to have the more sophisticated hull, some wag quipped about rigging the Aero with the Zero rig and getting the perfect boat.

I don't think so, I think they have very different target markets, if your lucky enough to sail both you'll see why, the Aero there's a lot up front and the mast is way forward, the Zero there's lots behind you and a lot of room to slide back and forth yet with a very low nose that slices and dices.

If you're in the boat sales business you need to stock them both, if you're not, it's a tough choice which will come down to personal visual preference in the end I guess.



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Posted 04 July 2014 - 07:15 PM

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....^^.....from what you say,,,it seems the choice will go to ISAF  :mellow:



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Posted 05 July 2014 - 02:18 AM

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....^^.....from what you say,,,it seems the choice will go to ISAF  :mellow:

in 10 to 20 years, perhaps



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Posted 05 July 2014 - 03:03 AM

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....^^.....from what you say,,,it seems the choice will go to ISAF  :mellow:

in 10 to 20 years, perhaps

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Posted 05 July 2014 - 12:34 PM

I don't think anyone wants to get into the game of knocking one boat in favour of the other, they are both fantastic new boats with great features. The Aero probably has it with the bells and whistles and certainly off wind speed, the Zero has it as a committed racers shift hunter, as a not particularly skilled boat handler, but good racer, I found I could keep my head 'out of the boat' more easily on the upwind leg with the D Zero than the Aero, you need to be a pretty skilled helm to keep it in the groove upwind, and it's quite hard work and needs more concentration than I have.

Down wind probably the opposite is the case and i think the Zero will probably need more work, but that I find easier being a short light weight.

They'll be horses for courses and it's really great to have the choice. The Aero has to my mind the disadvantage of having to choose between a really powerful 9mtr or a tad too small 7m (If you're average weight)and the Zero rig is probably the more sophisticate of the two, whereas the Aero appears to have the more sophisticated hull, some wag quipped about rigging the Aero with the Zero rig and getting the perfect boat.

I don't think so, I think they have very different target markets, if your lucky enough to sail both you'll see why, the Aero there's a lot up front and the mast is way forward, the Zero there's lots behind you and a lot of room to slide back and forth yet with a very low nose that slices and dices.

If you're in the boat sales business you need to stock them both, if you're not, it's a tough choice which will come down to personal visual preference in the end I guess.

 

 

so, in your opinion, could both be sailed against each other 'properly'?



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Posted 05 July 2014 - 03:11 PM

First USA bound D-Zero ships out to New York on Thursday 10th July, next week.  It's a private sale to a regular customer so not for testing, although, I am sure that anyone based nearby could take a look.  We will wrap up a deal in the next week or so for a North America outlet and post the information/contact details on this forum.

Getting close to a North American dealer.  Am hoping to be in a position to make an announcement soon :)


So... Any news of when or where our side of the pond can check these boats out?


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Posted 05 July 2014 - 03:15 PM

Perhaps it's worth trying the D-Zero to understand why it's so versatile.  We have had 100+Kg sailors love the boat enough to order one and I will be racing one at 75Kgs with the standard 8.1M2 sail :)

 

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Very different boats in what way? I'm asking because I've only seen and sailed the Aero. At 75Kg (which happens to be my fighting weight!) you could have gone for the Aero 7m but obviously preferred the D-Zero. Why was that?



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Posted 05 July 2014 - 03:19 PM

Did anyone sail both boats and if so, how did people feel the Aero compared?

Any suggestions of minimum competitive weight for the D-Zero since (I think) there isn't the option of a smaller rig?

Never say Never <_<   No promises but you may imagine that there are discussions with regard to the possibility.  I will, of course, report back on this either way!!



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Posted 06 July 2014 - 12:04 AM

I don't think anyone wants to get into the game of knocking one boat in favour of the other, they are both fantastic new boats with great features. The Aero probably has it with the bells and whistles and certainly off wind speed, the Zero has it as a committed racers shift hunter, as a not particularly skilled boat handler, but good racer, I found I could keep my head 'out of the boat' more easily on the upwind leg with the D Zero than the Aero, you need to be a pretty skilled helm to keep it in the groove upwind, and it's quite hard work and needs more concentration than I have.

Down wind probably the opposite is the case and i think the Zero will probably need more work, but that I find easier being a short light weight.

They'll be horses for courses and it's really great to have the choice. The Aero has to my mind the disadvantage of having to choose between a really powerful 9mtr or a tad too small 7m (If you're average weight)and the Zero rig is probably the more sophisticate of the two, whereas the Aero appears to have the more sophisticated hull, some wag quipped about rigging the Aero with the Zero rig and getting the perfect boat.

I don't think so, I think they have very different target markets, if your lucky enough to sail both you'll see why, the Aero there's a lot up front and the mast is way forward, the Zero there's lots behind you and a lot of room to slide back and forth yet with a very low nose that slices and dices.

If you're in the boat sales business you need to stock them both, if you're not, it's a tough choice which will come down to personal visual preference in the end I guess.

 

 

so, in your opinion, could both be sailed against each other 'properly'?

Well rumour has it there's a bloke down our lake has ordered one (an Aero), not sure which it is yet probably the 7, but I tell you this, we'll race fine together, but I doubt he'll get a look in, unless I pull one of my 'ropes tangling round my legs and that wiggle stick thing' stunts and he gets very lucky with a puff and it's light, he's got the big rig and there isn't a proper beat... which does happen. Ask me what would happen to him in open water on the sea in a bit of 'knocking him all over the place' chop upwind... ;)



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Posted 06 July 2014 - 07:59 AM

Looks like a good boat. Any plans to bring them to Australia any time soon?

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Posted 06 July 2014 - 04:37 PM

Looks like a good boat. Any plans to bring them to Australia any time soon?

Yes :)

 

Now that the D-Zero is in full production boats will soon be shipping across the globe (we took first delivery of six new D-Zeros two weeks ago with regular roll outs going forward, the signifcant demand has taken Devoti by surprise and more moulds are now in production to increase the output).  I will provide more detail soon.



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Posted 11 July 2014 - 01:04 PM

6 more D-Zeros arrived yesterday and one, the top boat in the container, was shipped to New York (the bottom boat is a Finn) :)

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Posted 11 July 2014 - 03:37 PM

6 more D-Zeros arrived yesterday and one, the top boat in the container, was shipped to New York (the bottom boat is a Finn) :)

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As a Finn sailor, I have to ask.....  who bought the Finn?



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Posted 11 July 2014 - 04:02 PM

6 more D-Zeros arrived yesterday and one, the top boat in the container, was shipped to New York (the bottom boat is a Finn) :)

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As a Finn sailor, I have to ask.....  who bought the Finn?

Looks like you enjoy your Anonymity and I am sure that you will understand that I have to respect his.  You can see that I am a Finn sailor (for more years than I care to admit to) so I would love to hear from you sometime - rodney@suntouched.co.uk



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Posted 11 July 2014 - 05:17 PM

 

As a Finn sailor, I have to ask.....  who bought the Finn?

Looks like you enjoy your Anonymity and I am sure that you will understand that I have to respect his.  You can see that I am a Finn sailor (for more years than I care to admit to) so I would love to hear from you sometime - rodney@suntouched.co.uk

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Posted 11 July 2014 - 06:53 PM

 

 

As a Finn sailor, I have to ask.....  who bought the Finn?

Looks like you enjoy your Anonymity and I am sure that you will understand that I have to respect his.  You can see that I am a Finn sailor (for more years than I care to admit to) so I would love to hear from you sometime - rodney@suntouched.co.uk

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 I think that you missed something?  No despair here, relaxed as always :)



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Posted 11 July 2014 - 07:12 PM

 

 

 

As a Finn sailor, I have to ask.....  who bought the Finn?

Looks like you enjoy your Anonymity and I am sure that you will understand that I have to respect his.  You can see that I am a Finn sailor (for more years than I care to admit to) so I would love to hear from you sometime - rodney@suntouched.co.uk

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....no need to despair,,,,there's help for you..........take it to FinnsailorAnonymous <_<  

 I think that you missed something?  No despair here, relaxed as always :)

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....ahh,sorry.....your first post gave me the impression that you were ready to admit you have a problem......I can see now that you're still fully in denial :mellow:

 

....I wonder if Finnsailors can say 'relaxed' without a stressful expression breaking through!!?   :rolleyes:   ;)  



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Posted 12 July 2014 - 03:11 AM

6 more D-Zeros arrived yesterday and one, the top boat in the container, was shipped to New York (the bottom boat is a Finn) :)
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How much was the container?

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Posted 12 July 2014 - 03:12 AM

And Gus is pretty relaxed about it,

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Posted 12 July 2014 - 08:18 AM

20' container from Hayling Island, UK to NY Port is £1,850.00 (FYI a 40' container would be around £2,250.00).  To give some idea a 40' container can take up to 9 Finns and I would guess 12 D-Zeros.  Transit time Southampton, UK to NY Port is about 7 days.



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Posted 12 July 2014 - 10:53 AM

Does anyone know if they will be selling the D Zero in the U.S.? I e-mailed Devoti, but they haven't responded. It would be great to see one in October at HPDO.

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Posted 12 July 2014 - 11:58 AM

Does anyone know if they will be selling the D Zero in the U.S.? I e-mailed Devoti, but they haven't responded. It would be great to see one in October at HPDO.

Yes we will be marketing and selling D-Zeros in the US.  I am hopeful that we can make an announcement next week.



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Posted 16 July 2014 - 01:07 PM

keep the pics coming



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Posted 16 July 2014 - 04:27 PM

20' container from Hayling Island, UK to NY Port is £1,850.00 (FYI a 40' container would be around £2,250.00).  To give some idea a 40' container can take up to 9 Finns and I would guess 12 D-Zeros.  Transit time Southampton, UK to NY Port is about 7 days.


Is that port to port, please?

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Posted 23 July 2014 - 07:45 AM

Well we had a demo at our club over the weekend, a bit of a weird wind day, there had been this mental storm the night before that looked like the aliens coming in that scene from Independence Day and the wind was all over the place varying from light to quite breezy and lots of our club guys n gals got out.

Then the following day a couple of them entered the Zero and the D1 into the club Race which enjoyed similarly swirling around breeze. The end result the D1 lead pretty much all the way around and the D Zero was third boat, way ahead of our Laser hotshots in fact we even had trouble getting by him in the Alto (It's kind of a 505 derivative) on the fetchy course that it turned out to be.

I've got to say every time I sail it, it's like putting on a well fitting glove or pair of slippers, it just fits and everything is where it should be and the hull shape positively encourages a decent sailing stance.

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