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Posted 21 October 2014 - 06:57 PM

tikipete  send me an email and i can help you plan a trip..  weta910 at gmail



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Posted 21 October 2014 - 07:04 PM

Too great a distance on short notice but I'll keep it mind for next year. Maybe I'll do a fall color tour.



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Posted 21 October 2014 - 07:04 PM

The Catamaran Racing Assoc. of Michigan (CRAMsailing.com) has welcomed the Wetas with open arms and will give us our own start any time we get 4 boats on the line.  I will work with then on a color tour event next year.  Or we can just have a cold weather Weta color event next fall.  The higgins lake event my not have a lot of color yet but the event is run out a campground in an old growth forest similar to your posted pic.  And the winds are traditionally strong (20 -30) at the time of year they are there.



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Posted 21 October 2014 - 07:12 PM

The "big" Weta event of the Great lakes season is the Pere Marquette event on the CRAM schedule at the end of July if you would like to make a trip north.  We would love to have you.  



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Posted 21 October 2014 - 07:33 PM

Thanks! I'd love to.



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Posted 21 October 2014 - 07:58 PM

Knox was going to come this year but his boat didn't come in time.  Maybe next summer you guys can come up together.  Hoping to make WetaFresh the northern version of WetaFest



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Posted 21 October 2014 - 08:43 PM

Well hell we might as well make a caravan!



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Posted 21 October 2014 - 08:45 PM

Your going to need more than that if we are to catch up with Cliff's attendance Goals.  Or I can send plans for my trailer to haul two Wetas at once.



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Posted 21 October 2014 - 08:49 PM

What is the goal?



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Posted 21 October 2014 - 10:17 PM

WetaFest had 16 the first year and just over 20 in 2013. I think he is looking for 30 in 2014 and 50 in 2015. We had 8 inMuskegon this past summer. I think it would great to get over 15 in 2015

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Posted 21 October 2014 - 10:32 PM

I'll put it on the calendar for '15. 



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Posted 22 October 2014 - 12:47 AM

Send me an email with your contact info and I will put on the list when I have more info. Weta910 at gmail

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Posted 22 October 2014 - 02:24 PM

I took the summer off (too hot!) but Buzzelli got me motivated again so I'm going to start making some short trips along the coast here at home.

 

But I'm really looking forward to Tradewinds and sailing the Keys and 10,000 islands.

 

FWIW:

 

Flamingo to Bahia Honda is a little over forty miles. Flamingo is the Everglades national park station at the very tip of the peninsula, sorta the southern terminus of the everglades. They have lots of RV spots, motel, camping, including primitive camping.

 

Goodland, on Marco Island has an improved launch facility. There are any number of spots to land, picnic and camp. 

 

Goodland to Flamingo is about 80 miles.

 

I was thinking some sort of Raid type event from Goodland to Flamingo would be fun! With the Charlotte Harbor regatta just behind Tradwinds it might be a good way to fill the time.



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Posted 22 October 2014 - 05:29 PM

So if my wife and I want to vacation in the Keys area you could give us so tips?



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Posted 22 October 2014 - 06:23 PM

Somewhat, I'm still trying to figure it out for myself. What time period are you considering?



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Posted 22 October 2014 - 06:35 PM

we where thinking early December but decided to go to Mexico this year.  So sometime next winter, what is the best time?, where to stay?, what to see?  we can chat at Wetafest if you will be there.



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Posted 22 October 2014 - 06:47 PM

Yes, I will be at Weta Fest.

 

Imo, February to mid-May is best. What I have done several times is take the ferry from Ft. Myers beach round trip to Key West. After May 15 it starts to get hot down there, before mid-april it can be really pricey.

 

Once in Key West you don't need a car and charters are available for every imaginable water activity. I like http://dangercharters.com/ they're really laid back.



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Posted 26 October 2014 - 03:44 PM

I'm considering a camping trip to Flamingo the first week of November, because that's when I have time to go.

I'll drive down, towing the Weta. I'll be taking the big camping stuff (wall tent, Coleman stove, etc.) because that's what I have. The plan is laid back day sailing in Florida bay and possibly to the Keys if weather is idyllic.

Thoughts, comments, advice?



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Posted 02 November 2014 - 08:22 PM

I have been getting some practice in for the New Zealand Wetafest in Tauranga.

A good seabreeze and it was a lot of fun.

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Posted 07 November 2014 - 11:13 PM

Camped at Big Pine Key Fishing Lodge. Sailed out to Looe Key but it was too windy and rough to snorkel so I sailed back in and then East along the the southern shore of Big Pine Key, continuing East to Bahia Honda State Park.

The wind basically blew me out on Tuesday and Wednesday (Monday was a travel day) but I sailed continuously for about eight hours on Thursday! I really enjoyed it! The Keys are a special place.

Really upset with Garmin, they've "improved" their site so nothing works like it used to. Got lots of video but my camera handling is so bad it will require lots of editing.

 

http://www.bpkfl.com/   Stayed in a tent! I'm well past 2:00 a.m. strolls to the crapper! Key deer are common, almost tame. Lots of birds. We weren't even fifty feet from the water, lots of Lady fish and small tarpon thrashing the bait fish in the shallows then the egrets would attack from the land side. Big iguana in a mangrove right at the corner of the tent. Curt's skiff was in a slip a dozen feet from the tent. Easy launching for the Weta. Not many bugs. Too much wind for the first three days!  Gusts to 24 mph.

 

A few pictures here https://www.facebook...&type=1



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Posted 08 November 2014 - 01:25 AM

I've no idea why this clip has no sound? Anyone?

 



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Posted 08 November 2014 - 01:57 AM

Who cares about the sound. Tike that's a beautiful video, what a place those keys

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Posted 09 November 2014 - 12:48 PM

I suspect a Weta is not the best platform to snorkel from but I'm not quite ready to give up. I'll give it another shot or two. If, after you've seen this video, anyone wants to schedule a trip give me a ping and I'll do a little more research.

 

I think an annual Weta snorkeling trip to Looe key is a splendid idea!

 

 

We were in Key West with another couple in May and had wanted to try Blue Heaven for dinner. We didn't quite make it so Curt and I went back down on Tuesday evening. The idea was to report back to the girls to see if they were still interested. The food was good if a little pricey and I guess you just have to like chickens. I'd go back.

 

This video is a couple of years old but I can't see anything has changed. Key West is it's own kinda  place...

 



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Posted 15 November 2014 - 07:05 PM

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Posted 09 December 2014 - 12:35 AM

Hey guys here is the video from WetaFest 2014



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Posted 09 December 2014 - 12:46 AM

Beautiful first post.  Was that a white screecher I saw at the 2:50 mark?



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Posted 09 December 2014 - 03:16 AM

Beautiful first post.  Was that a white screecher I saw at the 2:50 mark?

 

Thanks!

 

Yes it is,Terry was sailing Weta #4 which had a one off developmental sail.



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Posted 09 December 2014 - 01:13 PM

Fantastic video! Go NZ!

 

Wait - that's only with respect to the video, has nothing to do with the America's Cup!

 

Fun to watch.

 

Best,

 

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Posted 10 January 2015 - 12:23 AM

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Posted 24 January 2015 - 04:04 AM

We've had a bit of discussion about handicaps for the Weta and it's been hard to pin down a race result but in Catsailor.net forum Paul White has slammed the cats and praised up the Wetas in numerous cat threads. He has again mentioned the 2011 Double Damned race as a good race for the Weta even though it's a mono hull race. He's quoted this as having lots of wind, with a link to the video so you would assume this is about as fast as you can go on a Weta. I see the Weta was second over the line behind the Moore 24. My query is can we use this 9.4kt average speed as an indication that it's only half a knot slower than a Moore 24ft trailer sailer built nearly 30 years ago that averaged 9.9kts, if so what would a fair handicap rating be. I am trying to track down the results for the Peter Loft memorial race Paul mentioned, to see how the Wetas went in that race against some cats that he mentioned passing so we can gauge performance. I look forward to some enlightening discussions regarding issues he has posted in the cat threads about cats v's Wetas in the correct Weta threads and must thank Paul for reigniting my interest in Weta's. Can you post some other results regarding Wetas sailing with cats? Or is the Weta mainly purchased by people that don't want to sail with any other type of boat.
regards Jeff Southall
  Double Damned 2011 Double Damned 2011 - 8/6/11 at 1000
Start: Start 1, Finishes: Finish time, Time: 10:00:15, Distance: 41
Rank Boat Name Boat Type SailNo Club Skipper PHRF Elapsed BCE Ave speed 1 Bruzer Moore 24 127 HRYC Morgan Larson 150 4:06:49 0:00:00 9.967 kn 2 Moore Cowbell Moore 24 124 CYC Katherine Meyer 150 4:22:14 0:15:25 9.381 kn 3 Adios Moore 24 56 SCYC Scott Walecka 150 4:22:51 0:16:02 9.359 kn 4 Wet Spot Moore 24 51 StFYC John Verdoia 150 4:25:05 0:18:16 9.28 kn 5 Nuclear Power Moore 24 122 LYRA Matt McQueen 150 4:29:56 0:23:07 9.113 kn 6 Moorigami Moore 24 77 StFYC John Siegel 150 4:31:46 0:24:57 9.052 kn 7 Morjito Moore 24 111 HRYC Doug Archbald 150 4:34:53 0:28:04 8.949 kn 8 More Uff Da Moore 24 26 PMYC Ben Braden 150 4:35:50 0:29:01 8.918 kn 9 Pteron Melges 24   PMYC Dan Kaseler 84 4:00:38 0:38:55 10.223 kn 10 Flying Tiger Moore 24 155 RYC Kurt Lahr 150 4:46:45 0:39:56 8.579 kn 11 Super Friends B25 31 HRYC Tyler Bech 126 4:32:32 0:42:07 9.026 kn 12 Monster Express Express 27 40316 HRYC Ted Lohr 129 4:35:51 0:43:23 8.918 kn 13 Electric Mayhem Moore 24 145 HRYC Brian Petros 150 5:13:38 1:06:49 7.844 kn 14 Strega C&C 25   HRYC Arpaq Family 215 6:13:25 1:22:11 6.588 kn 15 Giant Slayer SC 27 59369 TTPYC David Garman 141 5:29:01 1:28:21 7.477 kn 16 Kitchen Remodel Express 27 18353 HRYC Bill Sumerfield 129 5:26:31 1:34:03 7.534 kn 17 Crazy Lulu Choate 22   HRYC Bart Vervlouet 205 6:24:11 1:39:47 6.403 kn 18 Symbiosis S2 9.1 50491 HRYC Lance Staughton 129 5:45:52 1:53:24 7.113 kn 19 Weta Weta Tri 571 RYC David Berntsen   4:21:17 1:56:58 9.415 kn 20 Jack Wabbit 19 RYC William Erkelens 126 DNF     20 Subatomic Rocket 22 2210 HRYC Chris Lloyd 111 DNF     20 Diversion J 35 69773 HRYC Mark Newbrook 72 DNF     20 Gorgeous Nelson Merrek 44   HRYC Jim Case 72 DNF

Is there any forum on the planet that you haven't posted this info Jeff?

cheers,

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Posted 24 January 2015 - 01:12 PM

No and I have found it much better to carry the discussion into the Weta forums instead of having unseemly discussions in the cat threads, Paul White has made lots of comments about catamarans and I would like to explore them in the Weta forum, I look forward to some lively discussions over the next few years as we hammer out the pros and cons of Wetas in the appropriate threads

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Posted 24 January 2015 - 04:08 PM

HI guys,

 

In my experience,  I was totally smoked by a single handed H16 on my Weta on a windy day.  

 

I know that people compare the Weta with the H16, however as much as I love the Weta, I do not believe we are even close to a well sailed H16 in most points of sail. 

 

Cheers!



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Posted 24 January 2015 - 05:46 PM

Nor I! Worse I'm afraid we'll stumble into another shit storm with such comparisons. The weta is a very nice niche boat, as such it fulfills a variety of needs and desires. High performance ain't one of them!

 

I've overnighted on the Weta, something I never did with any of my cats, and plan some longer excursion type events.

 

Imo the weta's strong points are:

  • ease of operation, particularly rigging and recovery
  • stability
  • affordable price
  • good all round performance
  • good load carrying capacity for the single hander
  • very small foot print for storing and traveling.


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Posted 24 January 2015 - 05:55 PM

HI guys,

 

In my experience,  I was totally smoked by a single handed H16 on my Weta on a windy day.  

 

I know that people compare the Weta with the H16, however as much as I love the Weta, I do not believe we are even close to a well sailed H16 in most points of sail. 

 

Cheers!

Dude, welcome aboard.

 

I will not extend the traditional greeting, which is: "fuck off and show me your wife's tits." But rest assured some one will so be prepared.



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Posted 01 February 2015 - 01:22 PM

I was rigging my boat to go sailing yesterday (don't you hate the Florida sailors this time of year?!)...and noticed a 2" split in the top of the lower section of my mast, where it sleeves to the top section.  No real big deal, but could have become one.  I scuffed it up and collared it with a couple of layers of carbon DB, and it's good as new this morning.  Just thought I'd mention it, so others could give their masts a look...



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Posted 01 February 2015 - 09:39 PM

HI guys,

 

In my experience,  I was totally smoked by a single handed H16 on my Weta on a windy day.  

 

I know that people compare the Weta with the H16, however as much as I love the Weta, I do not believe we are even close to a well sailed H16 in most points of sail. 

 

Cheers!

 

You'd be correct for the most part. The following video was shot on Friday in some pretty strong winds/gusts. The H16 was being sailed 2-up and my Weta with just me. I know the guys on the H16 and you can figure their total "payload" at about 400 pounds and mine at 175 pounds.

 

We spent most of the day on beam reaches, often heading towards each other, but often sailing single file behind each other. When single file, I could not catch them and had to work hard and get lucky in the gusts to stay close without losing much ground. When I was in front, they weren't able to catch me in a single 1/2 mile reach, but they did close a bit and if we had had longer runs they would have gotten past me at some point no matter what I did. So even 2-up the H16 is a little faster than a 1-up Weta, at least on a beam reach. 

 



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Posted 04 February 2015 - 04:46 AM

Tom, looks like it was a fantastic day. I would love to join you but San Diego has thinned my blood. Winds in the 30s and air temps in the 40s?  What kind of wind chill factor does that give you?



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Posted 04 February 2015 - 01:32 PM

Tom, try running a longer thinner bunji along the hull, over the ama but under the tramp... if you play with the length a bit, you'll find that you can keep it out of the water without it fouling. Could fasten a batten to extend beyond the rear of the tramp if it falls in.

 

Looks like a great day!



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Posted 04 February 2015 - 01:34 PM

Nor I! Worse I'm afraid we'll stumble into another shit storm with such comparisons. The weta is a very nice niche boat, as such it fulfills a variety of needs and desires. High performance ain't one of them!

 

I've overnighted on the Weta, something I never did with any of my cats, and plan some longer excursion type events.

 

Imo the weta's strong points are:

  • ease of operation, particularly rigging and recovery
  • stability
  • affordable price
  • good all round performance
  • good load carrying capacity for the single hander
  • very small foot print for storing and traveling.

Opinions on high performance vary Pete  :D

 

It really depends on what you are comparing it to amigo... 



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Posted 04 February 2015 - 08:14 PM

I like this. We should have one, maybe move it around every year so people can see new places.

 



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Posted 04 February 2015 - 10:13 PM

Tom, looks like it was a fantastic day. I would love to join you but San Diego has thinned my blood. Winds in the 30s and air temps in the 40s?  What kind of wind chill factor does that give you?

They had us pegged somewhere in the low 30's for average wind chill. We actually stood around in the parking lot for 20 minutes deciding whether to actually go out or not. I always dress for possible submersion, just in case you know. I have a Zhik Superwarm Skiff Suit that is worth every penny. I was pummeled by spray and splash for 3 hours but never had any discomfort other than my numb feet and hands. The other guys dressed to stay dry and did, but not so much protection for submersion. You can't play around with cold water. I joke around a lot but I respect what very cold water can do to you in mere minutes.

 

I was born in San Diego but left before I was old enough to sail there, or even remember it.



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Posted 04 February 2015 - 10:16 PM

Tom, try running a longer thinner bunji along the hull, over the ama but under the tramp... if you play with the length a bit, you'll find that you can keep it out of the water without it fouling. Could fasten a batten to extend beyond the rear of the tramp if it falls in.

 

Looks like a great day!

Not sure what you're talking about. Bunji? What purpose is this for? Sorry if I've misunderstood something.



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Posted 05 February 2015 - 02:05 AM

Like the idea Pete - Fl. Keys, Outer Banks, NC., Puget Sound; Maine Island Trail, TX Coast similar to TX 200 or 300, Lake Michigan, Connected Lakes in MN, Lake Powell AZ, Lake Tahoe CA, SF Bay, Chesapeake Bay......others?



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Posted 05 February 2015 - 05:20 AM

Pillar Point/Half Moon Bay--Santa Cruz--Monterrey  would be epic, though I think each leg would be a bit too long for a Weta.



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Posted 05 February 2015 - 01:39 PM

How long is too long?

 

In Florida, from Boca Grande (Punta Gorda/Port Charlotte) to Flamingo ranger station at the very tip of the peninsula there are unlimited beaches and coves to pull into for the night. Of course the mosquitoes would carry you away at most times of the year so winter would be the best time for a Florida Raid.



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Posted 05 February 2015 - 03:56 PM

How long is too long?

 

In Florida, from Boca Grande (Punta Gorda/Port Charlotte) to Flamingo ranger station at the very tip of the peninsula there are unlimited beaches and coves to pull into for the night. Of course the mosquitoes would carry you away at most times of the year so winter would be the best time for a Florida Raid.

 

FL Alligators?!?!



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Posted 05 February 2015 - 04:03 PM

How long is too long?

 

In Florida, from Boca Grande (Punta Gorda/Port Charlotte) to Flamingo ranger station at the very tip of the peninsula there are unlimited beaches and coves to pull into for the night. Of course the mosquitoes would carry you away at most times of the year so winter would be the best time for a Florida Raid.

 

FL Alligators?!?!

and pythons oh my!

For those actually interested, I have over nighted on my Weta. I waited for perfect weather, particularly wind, launched midday, at about 2:00 a.m. I got sleepy, ran up on the beach and just curled  up on the tramp. Slept 'til sunrise and continued on my way. A small box holds a stove, sleep pad, tarp, lantern, flashlight, bug net and sundry items. I didn't use any of it, just pulled a beach towel over my head to keep my ears warm and slept in my foulies. If you're tired, you'll sleep.

This was during the full moon phase which coincides with extreme tides so I awakened on Sanibel beach with lots of locals already about with flashlights and cameras searching the flats for sea critters.



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Posted 05 February 2015 - 04:55 PM

Pillar Point/Half Moon Bay--Santa Cruz--Monterrey  would be epic, though I think each leg would be a bit too long for a Weta.

 

Depends on if the wind is up.  remember that we've lost small boat sailors off of Santa Cruz, a chase boat might be necessary.



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Posted 05 February 2015 - 05:00 PM

Monterrey. If I drag my Weta out to Ca. Monterrey Bay, the aquarium and as much of that peninsula as possible.

Who wants to lead a California Weta safari, how  much will it cost, and who do I send a check to?  When?



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Posted 04 March 2015 - 10:59 PM

Here is Hot Donutz & Gordon Lyon's report on the 2015 RYC Midwinters http://wetamarine.co...midwinters-2015

 

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Posted 25 May 2015 - 10:05 AM

That's cool.....

https://www.youtube....h?v=50yRTBIwBRQ



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Posted 01 March 2016 - 04:57 AM

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The NOR for the WMG Regatta is now available here and registration has opened.

There are 35 Wetas available for charter and we're also looking at shipping in a container load from Australia for about AU$2-300 per boat, as well as offering an option to order a new boat for delivery at the WMG regatta and have it shipped home afterwards.

If you're based in Australia and you go for a test sail in a Weta in 2016, you can win free entry to the WMG Regatta - details here.

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Posted 01 March 2016 - 03:44 PM

That's pretty dang cool.  Five different age groups as well as men's, women's and mixed groupings.

 

And this should keep it interesting

 

It is intended that Wetas will sail two days of destination races and three days of windward leeward races.

 



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Posted 23 March 2016 - 05:59 AM

Hi all
So I have mothballed my laser, and bought a weta, sailed last week for the first time and can't get over this putting the tiller extension out the back of the boat when tacking. Has anyone tried the laser method , bridle over the top of extension and forward of blocks? What could go wrong?

Thanks

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Posted 23 March 2016 - 11:26 AM

Rodlaser, Glad to hear you switched to the WETA. You won't regret the change. Your idea has a few problems, mostly related to the length of the tiller itself. Unless you get a longer tiller, you would have to move the bridle/mainsheet aft on the edges of the cockpit. Moving these aft changes the angle of the mainsheet relative to the leech which causes big problems with sail shape since there is no boom. A longer tiller could work ( maybe ) but is not allowed under the current O.D. rules. Watch the technique vides on the WETA Marine site for tacking and gybing - they may help. You will get used to flipping the tiller extension around the transom. It is pretty light. You just have to spend a little time looking backwards which seems awkward. Enjoy!



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Posted 23 March 2016 - 01:45 PM

Damn, I just put a deposit down on a Weta and you are telling me I'm going to have to learn stuff? I sailed a Laser 30 years ago and have been sailing big trimarans since and you are telling me I'm going to have to learn stuff? I figured I could just show up and dominate and you are telling me I'm going to have to learn stuff?

 

I can't wait. Im hoping to show up in NC this fall so I can learn stuff.



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Posted 23 March 2016 - 02:05 PM

Sounds like you already " know stuff ". Congrats on the WETA. You will love it!



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Posted 23 March 2016 - 02:19 PM

Lots of variations tried on the Weta Yahoo group some years back.  Maybe try twin extensions.

 

Fun boats.  What hull number?



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Posted 24 March 2016 - 01:00 AM

Tacking Methods - more tips and tricks on the Weta Wiki here

 

There are three methods of tacking in use by Weta sailors:
1. Dave from Weta West

Thrown the mainsheet onto the opposite tramp. Push the tiller over and lay it on the tramp, uncleat the jib as you tack and grab the sheet on the new side. Pull on the jib and reach back for the tiller at the same time.
Pro: Works in all winds. Facing forward.
Con: You have to let go of the tiller during the tack and reach back for it after. Can lead to overtacking if you push the tiller too far.

 

2. Miranda from Weta

Tack the boat first and cleat the jib on the new side then flip the tiller around the main and swap the tiller behind your back as you cross.
Pro: Forward facing.  Tiller and mainsheet always in your hand.
Con: Probably better in light winds as you’re sitting on the wrong side after the tack with the jib and main cleated.

 

3. The Waldon Flip – developed by Geoff Waldon

Flip the tiller extension around the mainsheet so you’re sailing with it on the wrong side before you tack. Then tack and release the jib and cleat on the new side. Swap the tiller hand behind your back.
Pro: Forward facing.  Tiller always in your hand.
Con: Can be tricky in strong winds as you have to flip the tiller around while in the middle of the boat. Requires a flexible tiller extension to execute in stronger winds.

 

Under the International Weta Class Rules (and the less restrictive U.S. and French rules), the tiller extension isn't restricted  - I found it difficult to reach the tiller extension when hiking out from the Amas (floats) so I've lengthened mine by about 8" by inserting a section of slightly smaller carbon tube inside the extension tube and taping it in place, then replacing the rubber grip over it.

 

There are a number of people using twin tiller extensions but the issue is trying to keep the one not in use from dragging in the water. Some have resolved with a short tether looped around the extension and attached to the back of the tramp frame - but this can prevent you from sitting forward which you need to do in light winds.

 

Hi all
So I have mothballed my laser, and bought a weta, sailed last week for the first time and can't get over this putting the tiller extension out the back of the boat when tacking. Has anyone tried the laser method , bridle over the top of extension and forward of blocks? What could go wrong?

Thanks



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Posted 24 March 2016 - 01:58 PM

Hi all
So I have mothballed my laser, and bought a weta, sailed last week for the first time and can't get over this putting the tiller extension out the back of the boat when tacking. Has anyone tried the laser method , bridle over the top of extension and forward of blocks? What could go wrong?

Thanks

 

I don't know about a bridle, but several boats have twin mainsheets over the tiller to allow the tiller to be under the mainsheet.

 

But, you can get use to swinging the extension around the back.  Hobie 16 sailors have been doing it for decades.  I had been tacking that way since the 70s, first on a H16, then on a Tremolino, so it came naturally to me on the Weta.

 

I used the Miranda method except that I would pirouette facing astern.  It worked great for me, even in strong winds.

 

So my point is, although I learned to tack facing backwards as a teen, I'm pretty sure an old dog can learn new tricks.

 

BTW: One of the most successful Weta racers is a former Laser racer.



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Posted 24 March 2016 - 02:13 PM

 

Tacking Methods - more tips and tricks on the Weta Wiki here

 

There are three methods of tacking in use by Weta sailors:
1. Dave from Weta West

Thrown the mainsheet onto the opposite tramp. Push the tiller over and lay it on the tramp, uncleat the jib as you tack and grab the sheet on the new side. Pull on the jib and reach back for the tiller at the same time.
Pro: Works in all winds. Facing forward.
Con: You have to let go of the tiller during the tack and reach back for it after. Can lead to overtacking if you push the tiller too far.

 

2. Miranda from Weta

Tack the boat first and cleat the jib on the new side then flip the tiller around the main and swap the tiller behind your back as you cross.
Pro: Forward facing.  Tiller and mainsheet always in your hand.
Con: Probably better in light winds as you’re sitting on the wrong side after the tack with the jib and main cleated.

 

3. The Waldon Flip – developed by Geoff Waldon

Flip the tiller extension around the mainsheet so you’re sailing with it on the wrong side before you tack. Then tack and release the jib and cleat on the new side. Swap the tiller hand behind your back.
Pro: Forward facing.  Tiller always in your hand.
Con: Can be tricky in strong winds as you have to flip the tiller around while in the middle of the boat. Requires a flexible tiller extension to execute in stronger winds.

 

Under the International Weta Class Rules (and the less restrictive U.S. and French rules), the tiller extension isn't restricted  - I found it difficult to reach the tiller extension when hiking out from the Amas (floats) so I've lengthened mine by about 8" by inserting a section of slightly smaller carbon tube inside the extension tube and taping it in place, then replacing the rubber grip over it.

 

There are a number of people using twin tiller extensions but the issue is trying to keep the one not in use from dragging in the water. Some have resolved with a short tether looped around the extension and attached to the back of the tramp frame - but this can prevent you from sitting forward which you need to do in light winds.

 

Hi all
So I have mothballed my laser, and bought a weta, sailed last week for the first time and can't get over this putting the tiller extension out the back of the boat when tacking. Has anyone tried the laser method , bridle over the top of extension and forward of blocks? What could go wrong?

Thanks

 

 

I may have been the first person to fabricate a twin tiller system for the Weta (had never seen one until mine came along) and used a clip system to hold the lazy tiller out of the water. It is a simple matter of unclipping it, one handed, to take it far forward on the boat (in the rare instances when I do that). Otherwise, it's always in the same place and you never have to look for it when coming about - you just drop one and reach down and pick up the other one as you move across. I like it and won't go back to a single tiller. But that's just me...

 

Another gentleman fabricated a sort of upright open collar from whence you can simply lift the tiller out and move forward with it. The only disadvantage I see to that design is that you have to be careful to put the tiller in the collar, each time you move to the other side of the boat. But as I haven't personally tried that design, I'll defer to the person who made it and has used it on the water. I think he's from Texas and has some Youtube videos showing his system.

 

I do find it interesting that many performance skiffs and the new Corsair Pulse, all come from their respective factories with twin tiller systems.

 

And like anything else, learning to tack or jibe with the single supplied tiller is really just a matter of getting the old mind to muscle memory working. Within a couple or three trips I'd guess you'll be taking and jibing easily without really giving things much thought.



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Posted 24 March 2016 - 03:22 PM

If you think changing the tiller switching is tough from a Laser to a Weta, try 30 years on a Hobie 16 and then getting a Laser.  Not only just the tiller, but the damn thing rolls all over the place.






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