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#2101 ~Stingray~

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Posted 05 May 2016 - 09:50 PM

'Unsung Heroes' at CNN
http://www.cnn.com/v...-thomas-dnt.cnn

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Posted 13 May 2016 - 02:27 AM

"Foils - Black Rudders"

"Winches - Power Hydraulics"

 

 

??????????

 

 

More clueless people pretending to explain sailing.



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Posted 13 May 2016 - 02:10 PM

I suggest a name change for OR.  

 

Oracle Team MUTT

 

Definition of Mutt is:

 

A mutt is a mongrel (a dog of unknown ancestry).

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutt

 

Appropriate on a number of levels, IMO.  ;)

 

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Posted 13 May 2016 - 03:23 PM

Hey, I've met mongrels I have liked. Some of my best friends are mongrels.

#2105 Nutta

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Posted 13 May 2016 - 05:55 PM

I suggest a name change for OR.  
 
Oracle Team MUTT
 
Definition of Mutt is:
 
A mutt is a mongrel (a dog of unknown ancestry).
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutt
 
Appropriate on a number of levels, IMO.  ;)
 
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What about "OT Krueger"? The bastard son of a hundred yachting nations? All they need is a skipper called Freddy...

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Posted 13 May 2016 - 06:20 PM

I guess this could be filed under " small change " but uncle Larry just donated effectively two AC campaigns to USC for cancer research .

He apparently had $ 200,000,000 burning a hole in his pocket .

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Posted 13 May 2016 - 06:51 PM

I guess this could be filed under " small change " but uncle Larry just donated effectively two AC campaigns to USC for cancer research .

He apparently had $ 200,000,000 burning a hole in his pocket .

 

Not small change to him, but having lost my father to Cancer I am grateful to him for contributing that generous amount of money to help finding a cure to that evil disease.

 

Having said that, Uncle Larry has so much money to burn (didn't he make a pledge to give away most of his loot when he dies?) why couldn't he have donated money for all the upgrades to the SF waterfront he wanted?  He would of gotten his sailing academy no sweat, he would of had a legacy in SF to last an eternity and the Cup would still be there.  Seems like a wasted opportunity.  

 

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Posted 13 May 2016 - 07:18 PM

I guess this could be filed under " small change " but uncle Larry just donated effectively two AC campaigns to USC for cancer research .
He apparently had $ 200,000,000 burning a hole in his pocket .

 
Not small change to him, but having lost my father to Cancer I am grateful to him for contributing that generous amount of money to help finding a cure to that evil disease.
 
Having said that, Uncle Larry has so much money to burn (didn't he make a pledge to give away most of his loot when he dies?) why couldn't he have donated money for all the upgrades to the SF waterfront he wanted?  He would of gotten his sailing academy no sweat, he would of had a legacy in SF to last an eternity and the Cup would still be there.  Seems like a wasted opportunity.  
 
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Agree on it going to a good cause .

But to argue your point about the waterfront you know he would have gotten heat for " wasting " his money on sailing related items when he could have helped " worthy " causes .

Sometimes you just can't win .

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Posted 13 May 2016 - 08:00 PM

I guess this could be filed under " small change " but uncle Larry just donated effectively two AC campaigns to USC for cancer research .

He apparently had $ 200,000,000 burning a hole in his pocket .

 

Two campaigns? $200m gets you just one cheap one.

 

But good on you Larry! 



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Posted 14 May 2016 - 12:09 AM

Yup. Kudos for donation to cancer research.

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Posted 14 May 2016 - 05:26 PM

https://www.instagra.../p/BFUeUO8R0X0/

 

We are back in #Bermuda and training for the @lvacwschicago. Among many activities, we #swim in open waters.

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Posted 21 May 2016 - 01:39 PM

short video, drone, shots, Great Sound...

 

https://video-mxp1-1...a70&oe=57409B4B

 

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Posted 22 May 2016 - 12:57 PM

same video, link above is expired..

 

https://video.ftxl1-...a27&oe=5741DEBB

 

https://www.facebook...?type=2



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Posted 26 May 2016 - 08:36 PM

New sponsor Mastercam
http://oracle-team-u...th-Americas-Cup

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Posted 27 May 2016 - 04:29 PM

Looks like OR"s old home Pier 80 has found a new use:

 

http://www.sfgate.co...r#photo-9446862

 

http://www.sfgate.co...nto-7232741.php

 

“the Club Med of homelessness”

 

Another new use of Pier 80:

 

http://automotivelog...asha-automotive

 

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Posted 27 May 2016 - 04:56 PM

No idea who the kayaker is, probably not a seppo, but he is getting good rotation.

How many motor boats does it take to go sailing? As many as there are, apparently.



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Posted 29 May 2016 - 11:50 AM

-- Watching this video, I was taken by how deep they are sailing at 1:44 - the little monohull they pass on the same course has its pole squared pretty far back.



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Posted 03 June 2016 - 02:14 PM


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With the forthcoming America's Cup in Bermuda just under 12 months away, production of the wingsails and AC50 one design hulls and components are well underway at Core Builders Composites in Warkworth, about an hour north of Auckland.

The facility has been used by Oracle Team USA for their Americas Cup projects dating back to the wingsailed trimaran of the 2010 Americas Cup, and again for the successful defence of the Americas Cup in 2013.

That one design Americas Cupper concept means that there is no longer any point in total secrecy during the build phase at Core Builders and for the first time in Americas Cup history, Sail-World can publish photos of Americas Cup yachts during construction.

http://www.sail-worl...Builders/145233

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Posted 03 June 2016 - 02:42 PM

^ Is RG not on your shit list at the moment then??

 

That's great stuff - more than has been made public for months if not years.

 

Seems like RG just went to the local source - and around the usual Team PR bods.

 

So the only questions now are which parts of which boats did not come from CBC - and how many boats is OTUSA getting

 

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photos © Richard Gladwell http://www.richardgladwell.com



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Posted 03 June 2016 - 03:25 PM

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With the forthcoming America's Cup in Bermuda just under 12 months away, production of the wingsails and AC50 one design hulls and components are well underway at Core Builders Composites in Warkworth, about an hour north of Auckland.

The facility has been used by Oracle Team USA for their Americas Cup projects dating back to the wingsailed trimaran of the 2010 Americas Cup, and again for the successful defence of the Americas Cup in 2013.

That one design Americas Cupper concept means that there is no longer any point in total secrecy during the build phase at Core Builders and for the first time in Americas Cup history, Sail-World can publish photos of Americas Cup yachts during construction.

http://www.sail-worl...Builders/145233

 

Great story-thanks SR!



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Posted 04 June 2016 - 02:14 AM

"So the only questions now are which parts of which boats did not come from CBC - and how many boats is OTUSA getting?"
 
Can't answer that definitely but Artemis are building their own hulls entirely - not just the nose cones.
See:
http://artemis-racin...-IN-SWEDEN.html

 

From what I understand the hulls are externally One Design - but the structural support for the Daggerboards - whilst having a minimum requirement can be custom tailored to each teams requirements.

 

Which when you think about it is entirely reasonable and understandable.

 

So we know that Oracle use Core (obviously)

And Team Japan Softbank are a rebranded clone of Oracle with their own propriety foil shapes but using Oracle control systems so their designs are likely to be an off the shelf repeat of Oracle itself.

 

We know that ETNZ use Cookson to build their stuff and that keeps the propriety changes secure from other teams.

 

The same process seems to be used by Artemis as seen by the linked article in their own Stockholm facility.

 

So that leaves BARLandRover and Groupama which if the Sail World article is to be taken at face value - and why wouldn't you - two sets of hulls, beams & wings - plus beams & wing for Artemis - would seem to be a realistic business case for setting up the European facility as referred to in the article linked.

 

The question I have is why if they are trying to control costs did the wings not get specified more completely than just the frame structure. Teams will be burning a lot of time and cash trying to find a superior film that distorts less than the film seen on the AC72's and in the ACWS.

Why? Because, the distortion between the High and Low pressure sides is significant enough to alter the lift & drag characteristics enough to make it a worthwhile area of development - which in a contest with restricted areas of development seems to offer few rabbit holes for the design team to explore.

I don't see the gains being massive, but significant enough to warrant a disproportionate amount of spend. Which waters down the attempt to control costs in this fiercely expensive pastime. 

Which if you are a wealthy team is no problem, but if you aren't......

 

I'll let the tin foil hat brigade discuss the merits of how great a conspiracy this sort of thing is.



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Posted 04 June 2016 - 02:07 PM

^ The 'frame structure' was not specified.



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Posted 04 June 2016 - 02:59 PM

^^ Boink, you should read the rule before posting.



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Posted 04 June 2016 - 04:18 PM

"Wingsails are one-design in shape, but otherwise unrestricted."

This is what I refer to as frame structure.
Flame away TC...... I'll fetch the popcorn.

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Posted 04 June 2016 - 06:00 PM

^ :blink:

 

 

The (non-rigid :lol: ) surface shape is specified - the structure (frame) is not. See the Bermuda thread for examples of different approaches.



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Posted 07 June 2016 - 08:16 PM




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Posted 07 June 2016 - 08:43 PM

less interesting than ^^! but appears to also be a fresh upload



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Posted 07 June 2016 - 09:16 PM

Both were good-thanks!



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Posted 07 June 2016 - 09:32 PM

Both were good-thanks!

I especially liked the #TechTuesday one, there are some CFD shots in there worth freeze framing to yak about.

One slightly OT thing that occurred to me while watching that video is how, whenever we look at onboard footage from cameras under the wing that look back and into the water at underwater foils, how much the water refracts that view. I missed that revelation until just now but it's quite pronounced and could be a measuring/monitoring issue even for design teams let alone the sailor-eyeballs.

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Posted 07 June 2016 - 09:50 PM

I've got to take a look at that again-worth thinking about.



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Posted 08 June 2016 - 01:59 PM

 

Pretty cool.  In the one computer-sim shot, showing air disturbance, it was really notable just how much disturbance the crew created on the airflow, which was otherwise pretty damn smooth around the platform.



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Posted 13 June 2016 - 05:21 PM

So where were Jimmy and the gang going when they left the race course in the third race on Sunday?!



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Posted 14 June 2016 - 07:54 AM

Jimmy was up to ramming Speed, and didn't want to waste the momentum just in case someone presented themselves as a target?

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Posted 14 June 2016 - 02:10 PM

^ You can take the boy outta the track but never the track outta....

 

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Posted 17 June 2016 - 06:25 PM

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Posted 17 June 2016 - 06:37 PM

Cool..... JFK is onboard

 



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Posted 17 June 2016 - 06:39 PM

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Posted 17 June 2016 - 06:51 PM

Good stuff, nav-really liked the JFK video!!



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Posted 18 June 2016 - 05:41 PM

TS on 'one year to go'    https://scontent.ftx...fa&oe=5765B279

 

(for as long as that link lasts)

 

'new foil shapes every day!? 

 

wants to beat the Kiwis again, but Poms are favourites... etc



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Posted 19 June 2016 - 04:52 PM

^ Pretty cool.  Guy Obviously had fun with it.  As a one-time aspiring photographer that has spent a LOT of time behind the lens (and in the old days, in the darkroom), I can relate to the surprise perfect pic.



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Posted 19 June 2016 - 11:22 PM

Agreed, that is a good photograph and it's fun to see the context of how he nailed it. The guy produced a decent video - about a photograph.

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Posted 20 June 2016 - 12:38 PM

He missed the shot he wanted.

He took a 'portrait' of a guy splashed with water - inside a dusty prison building

He was 'spontaneously' asked to shoot portraits - just happened to have a videographer in tow

It's a 'great shot' because....well he says so

 

fan-boy



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Posted 20 June 2016 - 02:01 PM

I just wonder why they need to take shots a sailor splashed with water in an old building... and then to produce a video of a photograph :unsure:



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Posted 20 June 2016 - 02:28 PM

the building is a metaphor for the state of the AC. The bucket of water is Jimmy's wake up call... 



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Posted 20 June 2016 - 02:41 PM

He missed the shot he wanted.

He took a 'portrait' of a guy splashed with water - inside a dusty prison building

He was 'spontaneously' asked to shoot portraits - just happened to have a videographer in tow

It's a 'great shot' because....well he says so

 

fan-boy

 

The photo is cool not because it is Oracle, and not because of what the guy said, but it is cool because of the way it turned out (by the way, just like any art, you can not like it while others do).  I would have been stoked, too, when I was doing this aspiring to get into Brooks, if I got a shot like that.  What was cool is that it all worked (the setting, the lighting, and the subject) better with the 'mistake' of being too late.... the amount of water dripping straight down without deflection seems almost impossible.  Just turned into a really neat, different image.  It's not just photoshopped, but looks to have just worked out that way, as it looks like they had a print of it ready and signing it at that time, rather than days/weeks later (obviously, I could be wrong).  Anyone into photography knows that sometimes it really is just the luck of the shot (you just happened to click at the right time), rather than pure skill.... and rather than denying it, better to just take it for what it is and feel lucky.



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Posted 20 June 2016 - 02:44 PM

I just wonder why they need to take shots a sailor splashed with water in an old building... and then to produce a video of a photograph :unsure:

 

Whatever.  I think that old building is screaming out to be a set.  Really neat stone, great color, nice open area of good size.  Photographers do stuff, play around with ideas, sailors get wet.  Why not do a video?

 

Too funny how some around here can find ways to nit-pic something like this.



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Posted 21 June 2016 - 04:13 AM

 

I just wonder why they need to take shots a sailor splashed with water in an old building... and then to produce a video of a photograph :unsure:

 

Whatever.  I think that old building is screaming out to be a set.  Really neat stone, great color, nice open area of good size.  Photographers do stuff, play around with ideas, sailors get wet.  Why not do a video?

 

Too funny how some around here can find ways to nit-pic something like this.

 

I do quite a lot of photography too, enjoy good pictures of action on boats, but pretty much despise this make ups...Why do you have to send buckets of water on a sailor in a building ? Nonsense.

 

Anyway...



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Posted 21 June 2016 - 05:48 AM

He missed the shot he wanted.

He took a 'portrait' of a guy splashed with water - inside a dusty prison building

He was 'spontaneously' asked to shoot portraits - just happened to have a videographer in tow

It's a 'great shot' because....well he says so

 

fan-boy

 

It looks like someone got the "shot" they wanted. LE?



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Posted 29 June 2016 - 03:01 PM

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Posted 29 June 2016 - 08:56 PM

I wonder if Oracle are starting to get a little concerned about the progress of their competitors compared to themselves? Oracle so far haven't managed to adapt as well as other teams to the AC45F or the AC45 Sport. Yes its still very early days, however Oracle don't have the luxury of such an open design window like they did last time. Softbank Team Japan are definitely starting to seemingly come into their own, in both the AC45F and the Sport boats. And with ETNZ on the water with what undoubtedly will be a very competitive package come 2017, alarm bells may well start ringing in the Oracle camp.  



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Posted 29 June 2016 - 11:37 PM

While SBTJ has done a great job with the limited resources and hand-me-down platform that OR sold them, AC45 performance is far different from the "S" boats as a GC32 is different from the 45F.
"Foil Fest" was a fun event and was meant to give a little something to the people of Bermuda. It was far from a "serious" race and I wouldn't take too much away from the results other than SBTJ is a serious entry and everyone seemed to have a good time.

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Posted 29 June 2016 - 11:56 PM

While SBTJ has done a great job with the limited resources and hand-me-down platform that OR sold them, AC45 performance is far different from the "S" boats as a GC32 is different from the 45F.
"Foil Fest" was a fun event and was meant to give a little something to the people of Bermuda. It was far from a "serious" race and I wouldn't take too much away from the results other than SBTJ is a serious entry and everyone seemed to have a good time.

Yet it still remains...Oracle haven't proved themselves as being "The top team" in any class of boat that has anything to do with this current AC (something defenders of the past have always been able to maintain), while others around them are seemingly closing the gap. With all the one design components of this current cycle, surely Oracle with all their technology and practice they've had for the last year or so, if for no other reason than to instill a little confidence into their team, would want to prove they can beat their potential challengers. So far they have struggled to do that. 



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Posted 30 June 2016 - 01:24 PM

 

While SBTJ has done a great job with the limited resources and hand-me-down platform that OR sold them, AC45 performance is far different from the "S" boats as a GC32 is different from the 45F.
"Foil Fest" was a fun event and was meant to give a little something to the people of Bermuda. It was far from a "serious" race and I wouldn't take too much away from the results other than SBTJ is a serious entry and everyone seemed to have a good time.

Yet it still remains...Oracle haven't proved themselves as being "The top team" in any class of boat that has anything to do with this current AC (something defenders of the past have always been able to maintain), while others around them are seemingly closing the gap. With all the one design components of this current cycle, surely Oracle with all their technology and practice they've had for the last year or so, if for no other reason than to instill a little confidence into their team, would want to prove they can beat their potential challengers. So far they have struggled to do that. 

 

 

I'm sure you are right, they must be flying into a panic now that ETNZ have launched their gen 1 AC45S - which has already proven significantly better than anything seen in Bermuda or Pomgolia.

 

 

- there is only one class of boat that will be used in AC35 - and as per the Protocol, none of them may even be launched before the end of December.

 

- the AC45S/X/Ts are not one design



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Posted 04 July 2016 - 08:02 PM

Happy July 4th Team

 

 

 

 

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Posted 04 July 2016 - 09:23 PM

4th of July 1776, the original Brexit!

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Posted 04 July 2016 - 09:58 PM

Funny as hell!



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Posted 05 July 2016 - 03:23 AM

4th of July 1776, the original Brexit!

err, 4th July 1776 was Bostxit.



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Posted 05 July 2016 - 04:10 AM

 

 

While SBTJ has done a great job with the limited resources and hand-me-down platform that OR sold them, AC45 performance is far different from the "S" boats as a GC32 is different from the 45F.
"Foil Fest" was a fun event and was meant to give a little something to the people of Bermuda. It was far from a "serious" race and I wouldn't take too much away from the results other than SBTJ is a serious entry and everyone seemed to have a good time.

Yet it still remains...Oracle haven't proved themselves as being "The top team" in any class of boat that has anything to do with this current AC (something defenders of the past have always been able to maintain), while others around them are seemingly closing the gap. With all the one design components of this current cycle, surely Oracle with all their technology and practice they've had for the last year or so, if for no other reason than to instill a little confidence into their team, would want to prove they can beat their potential challengers. So far they have struggled to do that. 

 

 

I'm sure you are right, they must be flying into a panic now that ETNZ have launched their gen 1 AC45S - which has already proven significantly better than anything seen in Bermuda or Pomgolia.

 

 

- there is only one class of boat that will be used in AC35 - and as per the Protocol, none of them may even be launched before the end of December.

 

- the AC45S/X/Ts are not one design

 

Hahaha, haven't heard that used in a long time.



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Posted 07 July 2016 - 04:12 PM




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Posted 08 July 2016 - 04:25 PM

Beasts!?

 

video

 

   http://www.cnn.com/v...itness.cnn.html



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Posted 08 July 2016 - 04:26 PM

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Posted 08 July 2016 - 05:05 PM

Like a BMW...

 

https://video-arn2-1...aaa&oe=577FF8CF



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Posted 09 July 2016 - 12:01 AM

Beasts!?

 

video

 

   http://www.cnn.com/v...itness.cnn.html

You'd think they'd be winning!  Perhaps they need to spend more time on sailing and less on boxing.



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Posted 09 July 2016 - 02:10 PM

^ Much too early to talk about who's 'winning' IMO

 

Will Jimmy's testosterone dependancy be his undoing!?



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Posted 13 July 2016 - 11:56 PM




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Posted 15 July 2016 - 08:03 PM

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ORACLE TEAM USA will use 4iiii Innovations PRECISION Power Meters to measure how much power its grinders produce with each turn of a winch handle.

4iiii power meters connected to the winches will provide torque and power output with greater than 99% accuracy, allowing ORACLE TEAM USA designers, engineers and physical trainers to determine exactly how much power each grinder generates.

"These systems measure torque on the winch handle with a high degree of accuracy by utilizing strain gauges per side," says Ian "Fresh" Burns, performance manager for ORACLE TEAM USA.

"Power management is one of the biggest challenges in this America's Cup. All the systems need to be powered by the grinders. To understand how efficient our systems are, we need to have an accurate gauge of the input - what are the guys able to produce when they turn the handles?"

4iiii is a leader in the field of human power measurement, and supports a number of professional cycling teams in the major tours. Their software and hardware is being customized for the America's Cup environment as they become a Technical Supplier to ORACLE TEAM USA.

"We've already started to use it on our dry land grinding stations, and we'll be implementing it on the water shortly."

“We are pleased to have this opportunity to support ORACLE TEAM USA,” says Kip Fyfe, 4iiii CEO and founder.

“Our passion is to innovate sport monitoring technology. PRECISION, the world’s lightest super accurate cycling power meter is now the world’s lightest super accurate sailing power measurement eco-system.”



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Posted 19 July 2016 - 08:48 PM

Airbus breaking boards for Otusa https://video-mrs1-1...a4a&oe=578EB1BA



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Posted 20 July 2016 - 09:34 PM

https://video-mrs1-1...461&oe=579013F3



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Posted 20 July 2016 - 09:43 PM

https://video-mrs1-1...461&oe=579013F3

Same, on YT

https://youtu.be/CQap5qejrHU

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Posted 20 July 2016 - 11:41 PM

Dat boy not from Bermuda, mebbe Jamaica.

 

    Loved the video though. Reminded me of the one of the mailman delivering something to Oracle last time around in Alameda. 



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Posted 21 July 2016 - 02:45 PM



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Posted 24 July 2016 - 03:02 PM

Gotta feel for OTUSA a bit. They can't catch a Break....had chances numerous times winning a Regatta and came up short every time.



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Posted 24 July 2016 - 03:36 PM

Gotta feel for OTUSA a bit. They can't catch a Break....had chances numerous times winning a Regatta and came up short every time.

If they hadn't jumped the start early in R3 on Saturday, leading to a 6th, they may well have won Portsmouth and be leading overall too. That was self-inflicted.

Today's starts were superb, especially that last race.

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Posted 24 July 2016 - 04:21 PM

As I've already mentioned in the Portsmouth thread - the winning of this regatta was in Jimmy's hands.

 

I said after exactly the same thing happened in Oman, that Jimmy did not have the boat on boat 'snooker skills' he should have for this format of racing.

 

He has had time to practice. Clearly not a priority, so he lost another one - and the chance to lead the series.

 

Hopefully the teams at least understood the points permutations better than Ken Read et al - they spent the whole of the 6th race contradicting each other - but it was 'epic' either way, they assured us.

 

They nicely have rigged the points to ensure a "**BIG BREATHLESS DRAMA FILLED FINISH**" to every regatta, now if only they could figure out how to guarantee the home team wins each one - lets wait and see if TF 'improves' dramatically!?



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Posted 24 July 2016 - 06:02 PM

 

Gotta feel for OTUSA a bit. They can't catch a Break....had chances numerous times winning a Regatta and came up short every time.

If they hadn't jumped the start early in R3 on Saturday, leading to a 6th, they may well have won Portsmouth and be leading overall too. That was self-inflicted.

Today's starts were superb, especially that last race.

 

OTUSA and LRBAR seem to have an edge on everyone else with the Foiling. The Foiling Package from both of them seems to me more stable than others. LRBAR is really a surprise because I thought given all the Experience Artemis Racing & ETNZ would be the Odds-On Favourites contesting the Challenger Finals next year. BAR made some big leaps though so I wouldn't be surprised if the Challenger Finals are ETNZ vs LRBAR.



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Posted 24 July 2016 - 06:27 PM

^ Friends and foes mate - the rules are as they are to benefit the poodles friends - and ultimately OTUSA/ACEA

2 ACWS events vs none, the ACC class vs the earlier mandated AC62, just to mention a couple of examples, but there a myriad of choices that have been made in a 'with us or against us' atmosphere, that lead to advantages and extra funding and that eliminate many of the benifits of 'previous experience'

SirBen has drunk the Gatorade I'm afraid. Time will tell just how nasty it will get for the lapdogs - closer to crunch time



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Posted 24 July 2016 - 06:37 PM

OTUSA and LRBAR seem to have an edge on everyone else with the Foiling. The Foiling Package from both of them seems to me more stable than others.


I'm not sure how you can know that. You do realise the AC45s we are seeing race are one-design?

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Posted 24 July 2016 - 08:03 PM

 

OTUSA and LRBAR seem to have an edge on everyone else with the Foiling. The Foiling Package from both of them seems to me more stable than others.


I'm not sure how you can know that. You do realise the AC45s we are seeing race are one-design?

 

The Cup Boats will also have One-Design Components, just sayin.



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Posted 24 July 2016 - 10:03 PM

OTUSA and LRBAR seem to have an edge on everyone else with the Foiling. The Foiling Package from both of them seems to me more stable than others.

I'm not sure how you can know that. You do realise the AC45s we are seeing race are one-design?
The differences in set up have a big impact as well.

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Posted 24 July 2016 - 11:33 PM

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With the forthcoming America's Cup in Bermuda just under 12 months away, production of the wingsails and AC50 one design hulls and components are well underway at Core Builders Composites in Warkworth, about an hour north of Auckland.

The facility has been used by Oracle Team USA for their Americas Cup projects dating back to the wingsailed trimaran of the 2010 Americas Cup, and again for the successful defence of the Americas Cup in 2013.

That one design Americas Cupper concept means that there is no longer any point in total secrecy during the build phase at Core Builders and for the first time in Americas Cup history, Sail-World can publish photos of Americas Cup yachts during construction.

http://www.sail-worl...Builders/145233

 

Still SOME CIC components right? anyone know where Oracle is building this time? maybe Anacortes again?



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Posted 25 July 2016 - 04:25 AM

 

 

OTUSA and LRBAR seem to have an edge on everyone else with the Foiling. The Foiling Package from both of them seems to me more stable than others.

I'm not sure how you can know that. You do realise the AC45s we are seeing race are one-design?

 

The differences in set up have a big impact as well.

 

I am wondering if the configuration on OTUSA and LRBAR were perhaps more focused on foiling and less on displacement sailing.  I am wondering if there is some setup that was required to remain fixed during the regatta.  Perhaps that could explain the different teams performing well on different days. Seems like it was more than just practice in the conditions...



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Posted 27 July 2016 - 09:28 PM

More surgery for JS
https://www.instagra.../p/BIVTLCLj0ok/

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Posted 28 July 2016 - 01:46 PM

^ I hope you're sending flowers!



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Posted 29 July 2016 - 02:46 AM

Waiting for the chance to send a wreath.. :ph34r:  :ph34r:  :ph34r:



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Posted 29 July 2016 - 03:53 AM

It's a reasonable topic of conversation, as it would be for any team's ace helm.

It could be on the same shoulder he had earlier surgery on soon after AC34 but it's not yet clear if the surgeries are related. Hopefully for him and the team the impact won't be too sustained.

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Posted 29 July 2016 - 11:41 AM

Perhaps his agressive spraying technique caused his injury

 

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Posted 29 July 2016 - 07:01 PM




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Posted 02 August 2016 - 01:42 PM

Jimmy Spithill, the Oracle Team USA skipper, is battling to regain fitness after having elbow surgery immediately after last month’s Louis Vuitton America’s Cup World Series in Portsmouth.

Spithill tore a tendon in his left elbow and flew straight to California for treatment at the end of the fleet regatta.

 

http://www.royalgaze...hting-to-be-fit



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Posted 02 August 2016 - 04:09 PM

Jimmy Spithill, the Oracle Team USA skipper, is battling to regain fitness after having elbow surgery immediately after last month’s Louis Vuitton America’s Cup World Series in Portsmouth.
Spithill tore a tendon in his left elbow and flew straight to California for treatment at the end of the fleet regatta.
 
http://www.royalgaze...hting-to-be-fit


He probably did it with his superb pit bull aggressive style of spraying those 'uge bottles of fizz in Pompey....

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Posted 02 August 2016 - 07:38 PM

Sam Newton & Graeme Spence paddling in the Molokai Channel Race...

 

video https://www.facebook...57265584130525/

 

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Posted 04 August 2016 - 05:50 PM

sensors...

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Posted 07 August 2016 - 04:21 PM

crook as...

http://oracle-team-u...-September.html

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Posted 09 August 2016 - 03:44 PM



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Posted 09 August 2016 - 04:28 PM

Thanks, SR!



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Posted 10 August 2016 - 10:58 AM

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Posted 11 August 2016 - 07:13 PM

ORACLE TEAM USA has been on a short summer break since taking a second place finish at the Louis Vuitton America’s Cup World Series in Portsmouth two weeks ago. It’s been an important time to re-charge ahead of a big final push on design and build ahead of the launch of the America’s Cup Class boat in about five months.

But the team is due back at work in Bermuda on Thursday and will resume its testing and design program building towards the America’s Cup in 2017 immediately.

 

http://oracle-team-u...in-Bermuda.html



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Posted 12 August 2016 - 06:23 PM

The crip'....

 

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Posted 13 August 2016 - 02:15 AM

The crip'....
 
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Rumor has it Jimmys wrist injury was sustained while watching the Olympic women's beach volleyball.......




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