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#1 QBF

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Posted 11 July 2014 - 11:37 AM

The team that created the record breaking Vestas-Sailrocket, and set a new world record of 65.45 knots average over a 500m course, is now working on an offshore design.

In an interview, Paul Larsen said "A large part of the challenge ahead will be in navigating the path between what is theoretically possible and what is practically achievable."

"For now we will hold back on the specific targets we are aiming at and what the full-scale craft will actually look like. We need to have more in place before either is revealed. We know already what we are proposing is possible. The journey we are offering is to be the ones to make it real."

http://sailrocket.com/stories

This should be very interesting, considering the accomplishments this team has already achieved.



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Posted 15 July 2014 - 04:36 PM

Longtime SA'ers will know of our love affair with Sailrocket's Paul Larsen, and our favorite ultra-high speed sailor, offshore racer, C-Class star, and Antarctic explorer is firing up the Sailrocket team for a new and extremely ambitious new project - a truly ocean-capable, highly stable, offshore foiler.  And whether he succeeds or fails might just depend on you. Here's an note from Paul just for you SAers:

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I left some space in my life after the record (and Shackleton gig) on purpose to see what would fill it. I didn't want to go out and say "we will do this and that" just to satisfy the "what next" crowd. We had a lot of ideas and have run hot and cold on a few of them. Of course I was constantly reflecting on what had happened over the past 10-12 years with the Sailrocket project and was trying to work out in my own head what it was all about. It did humour me that people would often ask why I'm doing it or question its purpose, but if you asked the same people what's the purpose of professional ball sports (tennis for example), most people have never considered it and therefore don't have an answer. The truth is that they have never really thought about it; "just runnin' with the herd, man".

 

We all do it to some extent, but what I like about our little speedsailing corner of the sport is that not only do you get to compete and demonstrate sporting attributes, you also get to develop the sport technically - fiddling with the genetics to improve the breed.  Whether we can do it in a useful and meaningful way remains to be seen, but it is a big part of our motivation. 

 

So here we were as new custodians of this technology and know-how that just took our chosen passion - speed sailing - to a whole new level.  Something which was previously just a theory has proven itself to not only be real, but vastly superior.  Many people focused on the impractical aspects of the boat rather than what it was designed to showcase.  For us it's more a case of one thing at a time. Now we have shown the performance potential of the concepts, the next step should be to show how it can be applied in more useful ways.

 

I have spent a long time going over the new concept as I am pretty sceptical of new concepts myself, but the potential of this one keeps shining through that healthy scepticism. We're not going to release the numbers just yet, but the stuff coming out of our new concept's VPPs are pretty special, hard to fault and demand our ongoing interest.  Trying to apply our stability concepts to a practical offshore boat has lead to some interesting configurations, and once again, we have had to confront some big issues head on in order for it to be viable; exactly our process when overcoming cavitation en route to a new record.  VSR2 was a very efficient and effective 'tool' for developing and proving a point, and there was no 'fat' on the bone with that project. She did an astounding job, with almost decimal accuracy, with a small team on a tight budget. Once the job was done she was simply hosed off and put away in her 40' container with barely a scratch. Whilst the end speed was great, our ability to accomplish a goal in this fashion is our real advantage.  There is the potential to do some pretty big stuff offshore at the moment for a fraction of the cost of an AC team; probably more around the price of a budget VOR campaign, and if you liked what we did before then you will probably love where we are going next.  

 

The challenge now is to see if we have the credibility and ability to muster the required level of resources. If we can, well that little one-way freak that you think only lives in the rarefied flat waters off a sandy African town may be about to land square in the middle of your own 'pond' and start doing its freaky thing - in all directions, on any day.  If the numbers translate into reality as well as they did with VSR2 then, change will be upon us all.

 

The Sailrocket story isn't over and the road ahead beckons.  If you have some specific questions for some unique content then fire away.



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Posted 15 July 2014 - 05:34 PM

Very exciting!   I wonder what sort of distances/races they are contemplating.     We had some hope for Hydroptere when she was here, to try to get a LA - Honolulu record, but their timing was very poor. 



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Posted 16 July 2014 - 12:39 AM

Can you imagine Hydroptere and SR3 lining up in NY to go for a TransAt? Complete game changer if they get this through...

 

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Posted 16 July 2014 - 09:49 PM

Hi Paul, good to see you back after the well deserved "vacation" - guess you can call your Schackleton project like that after SR1 and SR2!

 

This sounds really exciting, and I am sure you guys will come up with more revolutionary stuff.

 

I wish you all success in this new adventure!

 

Cheers, 

 

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Posted 23 July 2014 - 10:02 PM

Can't

fucking

wait.

 

Get'm Paul.



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Posted 15 August 2014 - 07:03 AM

Awfully quiet here...
I'm sure many of us have loads of questions but find it hard to translate what we know about SR2 into an ocean-going environment.
I'd be really interested to know what direction your concept is heading,so when will we get a first glimpse of SR3?

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Posted 16 August 2014 - 09:24 PM

Man, I have blue-balls . . . that kind of tease with no pics/plans/specs at all????!!!!!



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Posted 16 August 2014 - 09:49 PM

Man, I have blue-balls . . . that kind of tease with no pics/plans/specs at all????!!!!!

 

Don't get overly excited. I suspect it'll be some time before Sailrocket posts an update.



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Posted 17 August 2014 - 01:53 AM

I know, but I love this kind of stuff.  A totally open drawing board.

 

Cat, try, other.  Wing? Wings? Kite?  How many foils, planing surfaces?  Very cool stuff.



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Posted 18 August 2014 - 10:02 AM

My best guess is that the revolutionary part will be a way to orient the hull(s) to the apparent wind...



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Posted 18 August 2014 - 10:40 AM

Sitting down in Toy-town, Lorient at the end of a fine line of thoroughbred multihulls all getting Rhum'd up. Very inspiring. I'm  constantly picturing in my doing the dimensional maths and trying to picture what a big SR3 would look like amongst these pigeons. I'm not even sure how it would fit in here. They have done a great job with this base. When I first came here 15 years ago I had to show my passport. We will keep quiet on many of the key design principles of SR3. Whilst it is tempting and too easy to just throw it out 'there', I feel it's better to follow a process where we allow the designs to grow without the pressure of public scrutiny. The concept will grow as we dig deeper into the studies and things will change so that by the time we start to build, as with SR2, you can be sure that it is well considered. It will be worth the wait.

Cheers, Paul



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Posted 18 August 2014 - 03:27 PM

Thank you for the update, Paul.

 

We'll be waiting patiently for further updates from you as time goes on. Well, most of us will be waiting patiently, others, not so much :)



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Posted 18 August 2014 - 04:07 PM

Sitting down in Toy-town, Lorient at the end of a fine line of thoroughbred multihulls all getting Rhum'd up. Very inspiring. I'm  constantly picturing in my doing the dimensional maths and trying to picture what a big SR3 would look like amongst these pigeons. I'm not even sure how it would fit in here. They have done a great job with this base. When I first came here 15 years ago I had to show my passport. We will keep quiet on many of the key design principles of SR3. Whilst it is tempting and too easy to just throw it out 'there', I feel it's better to follow a process where we allow the designs to grow without the pressure of public scrutiny. The concept will grow as we dig deeper into the studies and things will change so that by the time we start to build, as with SR2, you can be sure that it is well considered. It will be worth the wait.

Cheers, Paul

 

Absolutely understand, Paul, and a good track to follow.  Still, not what WE want to hear ;)



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Posted 23 August 2014 - 10:26 PM

So, whilst we wait for the technical aspects to come out, I do have a question on the commercials, and that is on sponsorship.

How do you structure the funding requirements?

Do you have a gold sponsor, and then sub-sponsors?

Does the former provide 80%, and the others 20%?

The reason I am interested is to ascertain if our esteemed SA community, with some knowledge, could assist in identifying potential sponsors/increasing awareness?

We have a pretty broad (some may say eclectic) mix of members here, one could say?

Could also be a train wreck, you could end up with 1800 local pub names to fit on the hull :)

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