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#1 Innocent Bystander

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Posted 14 September 2016 - 02:56 PM



#2 sailingk8

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Posted 14 September 2016 - 03:08 PM

^^^

My Italian is limited but I can just imagine.....

 

 

Another view, from the ship

 

https://weather.com/...i-tsunami-italy



#3 SloopJonB

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Posted 14 September 2016 - 05:20 PM

They've got lots of money - lawyers will have fun.



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Posted 14 September 2016 - 05:46 PM

^^^
My Italian is limited but I can just imagine.....
 
 
Another view, from the ship
 
https://weather.com/...i-tsunami-italy


I believe he said "that will burr right out"

#5 Shaggy

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Posted 14 September 2016 - 06:39 PM

Hey...You scratched my Azipod.....  



#6 ropetrick

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Posted 14 September 2016 - 06:59 PM

I thought that Capt'n Schettino was in jail.



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Posted 14 September 2016 - 07:48 PM

He is but he was the senior captain so he probably (apparently) ran their training program.



#8 bgytr

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Posted 14 September 2016 - 07:57 PM

More thruster!

#9 RKoch

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Posted 14 September 2016 - 10:05 PM

I think the cruise ship went on their way? That's a bit of a surprise as I thought intl law was to stop if you caused damage.

#10 Marcjsmith

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Posted 14 September 2016 - 10:10 PM

on the plus side.  I didn't see any sail boats damaged...



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Posted 15 September 2016 - 01:36 PM

^^^

My Italian is limited but I can just imagine.....

 

 

Another view, from the ship

 

https://weather.com/...i-tsunami-italy

you can always go to youtube... click on closed captioning, and in settings ask it to auto translate.... not perfect.. but a lovely way to help with comprehension....   Although.... this whole event is incomprehensible........ :(



#12 kent_island_sailor

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Posted 15 September 2016 - 01:40 PM

They have agents to deal with insurance claims. Also, if you did that would you want to hang around :rolleyes:

I think the cruise ship went on their way? That's a bit of a surprise as I thought intl law was to stop if you caused damage.



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Posted 15 September 2016 - 03:45 PM

Just a little rubbing compound guys.



#14 SloopJonB

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Posted 15 September 2016 - 03:57 PM

A few nails will put that marina back together.



#15 IrieMon

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Posted 15 September 2016 - 05:36 PM

If the cruise ship was actually drifting sideways into the marina, might have been worse had they not "gunned it".     How do you say "marina pancake" in Italia ?



#16 IrieMon

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Posted 16 September 2016 - 02:23 PM

That Weather.com vid has issues playing on my PC, but here's a higher-res video:

 



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Posted 19 September 2016 - 07:18 PM

Not a thruster. he is backing at full power on the port shaft . 100% pitch and max shaft RPM. Thrusters donts produce that amout of screw wash. Those ships are equipped with the Azipod drive units.



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Posted 19 September 2016 - 07:21 PM

I saw this in person from on board- was on a family trip and was on deck with my family explaining how the undocking was taking place. (I am actually a ship captain.) Way before that video started you could see things slowly going wrong- I was pointing out to family that it was a bit strange how they were maneuvering and a bit of "I wouldn't do it this way."  Then a bit of they can make this better if they do this...but they didn't do that.  And then they get to where the video started and there was no good way out of the situation.  Wind was not a factor, tugs were not a factor, situational awareness and basic ship handling failures, as well as I'm sure an interesting bridge team / pilot interaction were the cause.  Interesting that not a word was mentioned of it on board the ship.  They did do a lot of testing on the port azimuth after we were clear of the harbor- I would not be surprised if the port azipod prop touched bottom during the incident.  



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Posted 19 September 2016 - 07:25 PM

It could be the captain did the right thing by powering up engines and avoided crashing through the marina and hitting the rocks.  His boat is worth many millions and the damage to the marina caused by prop wash is a pittance in comparison.  His error was prior to the video where he allowed his vessel to get in to such a compromised position.

 

He should be fired for that.



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Posted 19 September 2016 - 07:48 PM

Not a thruster. he is backing at full power on the port shaft . 100% pitch and max shaft RPM. Thrusters donts produce that amout of screw wash. Those ships are equipped with the Azipod drive units.

 

 

You sure ?  Looks like that's the stern closest to land/marina, not the bow.  


It looks like it was forward thrust from the screws that broke the dock

 

 

This one from onboard.



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Posted 19 September 2016 - 08:12 PM

The thrust was from the port azipod thruster.  The thruster was pointed to port.



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Posted 19 September 2016 - 08:43 PM

I saw this in person from on board- was on a family trip and was on deck with my family explaining how the undocking was taking place. (I am actually a ship captain.) Way before that video started you could see things slowly going wrong- I was pointing out to family that it was a bit strange how they were maneuvering and a bit of "I wouldn't do it this way."  Then a bit of they can make this better if they do this...but they didn't do that.  And then they get to where the video started and there was no good way out of the situation.  Wind was not a factor, tugs were not a factor, situational awareness and basic ship handling failures, as well as I'm sure an interesting bridge team / pilot interaction were the cause.  Interesting that not a word was mentioned of it on board the ship.  They did do a lot of testing on the port azimuth after we were clear of the harbor- I would not be surprised if the port azipod prop touched bottom during the incident.  

 

Thanks for the input and insider perspective. Out of curiosity what could they have said aboard at the time other than, "free drinks now being served in the Starboard Lounge, next ten minutes only!! 



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Posted 19 September 2016 - 09:27 PM

 

I saw this in person from on board- was on a family trip and was on deck with my family explaining how the undocking was taking place. (I am actually a ship captain.) Way before that video started you could see things slowly going wrong- I was pointing out to family that it was a bit strange how they were maneuvering and a bit of "I wouldn't do it this way."  Then a bit of they can make this better if they do this...but they didn't do that.  And then they get to where the video started and there was no good way out of the situation.  Wind was not a factor, tugs were not a factor, situational awareness and basic ship handling failures, as well as I'm sure an interesting bridge team / pilot interaction were the cause.  Interesting that not a word was mentioned of it on board the ship.  They did do a lot of testing on the port azimuth after we were clear of the harbor- I would not be surprised if the port azipod prop touched bottom during the incident.  

 

Thanks for the input and insider perspective. Out of curiosity what could they have said aboard at the time other than, "free drinks now being served in the Starboard Lounge, next ten minutes only!! 

 

 

Free drinks would have been great!  I think openness and transparency in the face of an incident is usually a better approach.  I've been using the example of a Quantas Airlines Pilot  for a lesson in crisis management in a leadership class I have been teaching.  Full disclosure about the event rather than 4000 passengers all gossiping about things they know nothing about might have better a better PR plan.  



#24 Leo from Rio

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Posted 19 September 2016 - 10:19 PM

Unlucky bastard had a professor from kings point onboard watching his shit. Ha hahahah.

#25 Deepsea

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Posted 19 September 2016 - 11:53 PM

Unlucky bastard had a professor from kings point onboard watching his shit. Ha hahahah.

 

 

Former- just a dirty boat driver now!



#26 Jaramaz

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Posted 20 September 2016 - 10:58 AM


 

Free drinks would have been great!  I think openness and transparency in the face of an incident is usually a better approach.  I've been using the example of a Quantas Airlines Pilot  for a lesson in crisis management in a leadership class I have been teaching.  Full disclosure about the event rather than 4000 passengers all gossiping about things they know nothing about might have better a better PR plan.  

 

 

+1.

 

/J



#27 Innocent Bystander

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Posted 20 September 2016 - 12:38 PM

I saw this in person from on board- was on a family trip and was on deck with my family explaining how the undocking was taking place. (I am actually a ship captain.) Way before that video started you could see things slowly going wrong- I was pointing out to family that it was a bit strange how they were maneuvering and a bit of "I wouldn't do it this way."  Then a bit of they can make this better if they do this...but they didn't do that.  And then they get to where the video started and there was no good way out of the situation.  Wind was not a factor, tugs were not a factor, situational awareness and basic ship handling failures, as well as I'm sure an interesting bridge team / pilot interaction were the cause.  Interesting that not a word was mentioned of it on board the ship.  They did do a lot of testing on the port azimuth after we were clear of the harbor- I would not be surprised if the port azipod prop touched bottom during the incident.  

 

 

Thanks.  good to hear from an expert on the scene.  



#28 Snipe sailor

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Posted 20 September 2016 - 10:22 PM

Was a pilot in Board?




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