Sailing dropped from Olympics? Options

[Dog]

According to a post on the catsailor forum a Norwegian news paper is reporting that the IOC plans to drop sailing from the Olympics in 2012. Anyone else hear anything about this?

[tuf-luf]

A "pickle-fork" sailor quoting a Viking newspaper?

Nah. I don't think so.

[Dog]

Heres a link

http://www.seilmagasinet.no/sm_lesmer.php?...709148012b9a0cd

Its all greek to me.

[Guest Anarchist RobbieD_*]

GTFOH!!!! I hope not - ISAF would throw ALL the toys out of the cot!

[Lesbian Robot]

Well, somethings gotta give considering the rapid rise of trampoline and other leotard based sports.

What would you rather see, the worlds top amature sailors competing or some North Korean genetic freak woman with throat glands and a pronounced sub fanny pack bulge bouncing around on her Frodo feet?

[SW Dropout]

Here's a lame free translation from a Norwegian to English website. Not quite all there, though you can get some of the flavor:

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But facts be bound to may hoderulling and another age the sailor at in crown at systems, a prior they discern facts?

[Guest Anarchist RobbieD_*]

A "pickle-fork" sailor quoting a Viking newspaper?

Nah. I don't think so.

Siren Sundby DOES look pushable in any case ... !!!

[Delta Blues]

Let's see, the president of the IOC is an Finn Olympian. Do you think that politics under his watch would let that happen?

Sailing was the first event to sell out all tickets in Athens.

Yes, it is a wish to eliminate Sailing from the Olympic games as the games have become a cash cow. The cost of the infrastructure for sailing, and the lack of media (hence revenue) interest make it an easy target for cuttling losses and increasing profit.

Interestingly, they would like to eliminate keelboats as they need hoists which adds to the costs a lot. But what occurs after the Olympics is over is that the Para-Olympics start next and they really need hoists as the para athletes need boats that won't flip and therefore have keels.

[tuf-luf]

A "pickle-fork" sailor quoting a Viking newspaper?

Nah. I don't think so.

Siren Sundby DOES look pushable in any case ... !!!

You are mental and no one - especially me - has any idea what you're talking about.

[Guest Anarchist RobbieD_*]

You are mental and no one - especially me - has any idea what you're talking about.

Sorry - the pic on the link (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Pushable - al la Pushing her around the mattress crotch to crotch!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[Presuming Ed]

Surely can't be too likely, given that Rogge was a Finn sailor?

However, sailing isn't immune. The lastest report was the Olympic Programme Commission, which reported on the 13th of June. Report is here:
http://multimedia.olympic.org/pdf/en_report_953.pdf

The votes on which sports will actually be part of the 2012 games will be made at the July IOC session when they choose the host city.

So, assuming that sailing in 2008 is a disaster from a compleat lack of wind, we must be thankful that sailing gets a chance to redeem itself in 2012 (Assuming that sailing has been included in the 2012 games). What we need is another Scheidt/Ainslie match race.

[tuf-luf]

You are mental and no one - especially me - has any idea what you're talking about.

Sorry - the pic on the link (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Pushable - al la Pushing her around the mattress crotch to crotch!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

I take it ALL back... oh my goodness!
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[Guest Anarchist RobbieD_*]

What we need is another Scheidt/Ainslie match race.

True Dat P. Ed.

But then how exciting will it be to see 2 all-timers in a Drifting Match. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

[boguing]

Do you think that this may be France assuming that it will win the 2012 bid?

[Mitch]

I think the real translation is:

"IOC wants more money from those rich sailing athletes(and ISAF and the MNAs) - else - the boot!"

[alpha]

I think the real translation is:

"IOC wants more money from those rich sailing athletes(and ISAF and the MNAs) - else - the boot!"

I don't think IOC gets money from the sailors the MNAs or ISAF. It's more like the other way around.

[Guest Anarchist Peregrin Falcon_*]

But facts be bound to may hoderulling and another age the sailor at in crown at systems, a prior they discern facts?

Yes, totally agree with you Sven. the facts of hderulling and crown at systems by sailor age is discern, fact?

[Presuming Ed]

I think the real translation is:

"IOC wants more money from those rich sailing athletes(and ISAF and the MNAs) - else - the boot!"

More the other way round. From the IOC report: 65% of ISAF income is from the IOC. I would imagine that for many minor sports a similar situation exists - the IOC is the major source of funding for the federations. The IOC wants to ensure that the sports which are at the olympics are generating enough media/spectator interest to be worth paying for - and having the facilities provided.

Generally, they have a bit of a problem with sports that require expensive equipment or facilities, and are dominated by Europe/US/Australisia with limited penetration into Africa/South America/SE Asia. So equestrianism is permanently under review (horses aren't cheap, and neither are eventing cross country courses), as are canoeing/kayaking and rowing - which require expensive artificial courses. Hence keelboats having a beady eye cast on them.

[Delta Blues]

ISAF is currently getting $5,000,000 over a single quadrennium from the IOC.

U.S. Sailing is getting $1,000,000 a year from the USOC. This money is not commingled with dues, and dues are not commingled with this money. It is used on the Olympic effort only and no dues are contributed to the Olympic effort.

Should sailing get dropped from the Olympics, I am sure that the sport would be better off. The Olympic money is doing things that are not healthy for sailing in general. I wish this rumor would come true, but I doubt it will occur in my lifetime.

[Ex-yachtie]

GTFOH!!!! I hope not - ISAF would throw ALL the toys out of the cot!

ISAF would have failed us all and we would stop paying any fees or subscriptions that went to them..............wouldn't we?

[Delta Blues]

Ex -

The MNA's pay ISAF dues, the individual sailors don't.

MNA's would still band together to create a level platform for sailors, rules, appeals, etc.

[alpha]

The Olympic money is doing things that are not healthy for sailing in general.

Be more specific.

[Delta Blues]

On the rules side, there are many rules that recreational sailors just don't need to be bothered with. Let's start out with RRS 5. That is pure Olympic interjection, and something that does apply to you and me (there is nothing in the rules, the SI's or NOR that says it doesn't apply to us) and just is wrong. There are others, you figure it out.

On the sailing side, I have seen competitions in Olympic classes rise and fall with the Olympic money. In the year following the Olympics, the teams are not well defined, their money flow is low, the number of competitions they compete in is low. However, the year before the Olympics, these teams are full on. They have coach boats on the water, spar sails and rigs mounted on the support boats and it is a completely different game for everyone. The recreational sailor isn't getting last minute data feeds right before the starting gun (as the coach boat just completed a turn around the course at 30 knots and checked the wind direction at the weather mark, and the current at various points on the course). The recreational sailor isn't able to change sails at the last minute and leave their other suit of sails on the coach boat.

Sure the recreational sailor can buy a coach boat and coach and play the game too. But the Olympic sailors are doing it with OPM. The recreational sailor has to pay for it out of pocket.

It also happens that many countries use championships in the U.S. to use in their formula for distributing Olympic money. When you have 6 German teams on the course, and the top team is going to get the money, they do not play the game straight. They foul with complete disregard so that their performance on the course wins them the money. I don't mean to pick on my German friends, as there are many other countries doing it too.

I personally don't think this is what 99.999% of the sailors are out there for. I think we are out for good competition and that the playing field is fairly level. When the playing field is tilted, I think the game become a bit of a farce.

[CFIT]

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Who cares about a bunch of old white guys sailing. Olympic sailing would do a lot better if they had more women like her sailing...naked (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[Tugboat]

What we need is another Scheidt/Ainslie match race.

No what Olympic sailing needs is more shots of girls (like the Greek 470 gold medallists) snogging. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)