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[Alan H]

I was up at brickyard cove this week forsomething else, and spotted an ft10 on a nice aluminum trailer in theyard. The boat looks great, just itchin' to make tracks right there on the asphalt.

congratulations, you guys.

[murphy]

Cazza,
I think your loads wont be too extreme. The angle of the line will determine it. Have you considered using a total of four straps with two forward and the two aft? This would take most of the load off of the keel. A four point lift would also be more stable. I think that is what was originally talked about for a lifting system. Maby Bob will chime in with the best location for the tie in points.

[NoStrings]

Ok, which one of you rat bastards that was out with Cazza (Murphy or FDH) conned one of my crew into going in with you on a Tiger? I'm going to need an SA tensiometer in trade.

[merlin89]

Ok, which one of you rat bastards that was out with Cazza (Murphy or FDH) conned one of my crew into going in with you on a Tiger? I'm going to need an SA tensiometer in trade.

Probably FDH. He has a habit of conning people into coming. He brought his g/f once to the midwinters, I wonder how he managed to convince her it was a good idea. Bummer he didn't try to con me into coming.

[CazzaRanda]

DNF at our first race in the berkeley midwimters: but we just ran out of water... all in all a very good day on the water, light wind, shifty, typical winter conditions.

We nailed the start, and led most of the upwind leg. The synergy got us immediately before the mark, but they screwed the hoist and we passed them, but after a few yards we both were aground... with their shorter keel they were quicker to get out, and took off. Wind shifted and we did another good upwind leg, keeping behind a 105 with a 150% genoa. We gained in the downwind leg and we rounded closer to the Farr 40 one tonner that had passed us when we were aground, Then we went back to buoy A with the tide even lower and it was a dragging party... The synergy took forever to drag around the mark, but eventually did it, the Farr got stuck hard in the mud and we tried to make to the mark from all directions, but there was no way a 7 feet keel would have got around it today... we pulled the engine out together with panettone and good wine and we celebrated our first race.

Anarchist Foredeckhell did the hell of a job on the foredeck, as usual, and Bill from the Doyle loft was great with tactics... if we just could have had a foot more of water around the A mark...

Was impressed that even with 9 people on board (two future owners as special guests) we weren't cramped and we could still move around without stepping on each other.

Cazza

[foredeckhell]

Ok, which one of you rat bastards that was out with Cazza (Murphy or FDH) conned one of my crew into going in with you on a Tiger? I'm going to need an SA tensiometer in trade.

It wasnt me i swear!
wait... who??


oh and merlin,
i didnt conn my girlfriend into coming out. sheesh. although she wasnt to happy with capp taking her job from her... oh well...



Cazza,
had an awsome time at berky mids. tobad we ran out of water... but as the saying goes, shit happens.

[merlin89]

Are you doing the mids again next month? If so, could I get a lift?

[CazzaRanda]

Are you doing the mids again next month? If so, could I get a lift?

The committee boat promised they would have lifted the water a couple of feet by february, but I don't think we're going again... it's still going to be low tide next time.

We're thinking about the corinthian in Feb.

PM me your email address, and I'll invite you next time we have a spot available.
Cazza

P.s: still improving with the hoist, 45 min now...

[USA-24]

You can run aground over there too! It seems like last winters big run off left alot of shoaling. We ran aground in both coves north/east of Pt Tiburon last month. I have been clear to shore in past years!

[Christian]

DNF at our first race in the berkeley midwimters: but we just ran out of water... all in all a very good day on the water, light wind, shifty, typical winter conditions.

We nailed the start, and led most of the upwind leg. The synergy got us immediately before the mark, but they screwed the hoist and we passed them, but after a few yards we both were aground... with their shorter keel they were quicker to get out, and took off. Wind shifted and we did another good upwind leg, keeping behind a 105 with a 150% genoa. We gained in the downwind leg and we rounded closer to the Farr 40 one tonner that had passed us when we were aground, Then we went back to buoy A with the tide even lower and it was a dragging party... The synergy took forever to drag around the mark, but eventually did it, the Farr got stuck hard in the mud and we tried to make to the mark from all directions, but there was no way a 7 feet keel would have got around it today... we pulled the engine out together with panettone and good wine and we celebrated our first race.

Anarchist Foredeckhell did the hell of a job on the foredeck, as usual, and Bill from the Doyle loft was great with tactics... if we just could have had a foot more of water around the A mark...

Was impressed that even with 9 people on board (two future owners as special guests) we weren't cramped and we could still move around without stepping on each other.

Cazza

Just out of curiosity: Why do you guys set the races in the mud?

[USA-24]

That is how we get the famous Berkley chop. Pacific rollers in 5' of water and 25K of wind.

[nroose]

Just out of curiosity: Why do you guys set the races in the mud?

It's in the slot, away from the very busy shipping lanes, and away from the 5+ kts of current that exists in other areas in the central bay. For boats with draft less than 6 feet, it is the best place on the bay to race.

[Synergy1000]

Cazza,
We have been looking forward to seeing you on the water all season. Look forward to the competition of a similar type boat.
I am not sure where you were looking on Saturday! Sapphire caught you on the first third of the weather leg and we only saw you far behind from that point on. The Farr 40 was seven minutes behind us at the leeward mark and you were somewhat behind them. Sorry the low water determined the race. The 105 was in fourth and way back until the leaders went aground. We only slid through the mud very slowly for about a half hour with nine people on the leeward rail. Next month brings another try!

[CazzaRanda]

Cazza,
We have been looking forward to seeing you on the water all season. Look forward to the competition of a similar type boat.
I am not sure where you were looking on Saturday! Sapphire caught you on the first third of the weather leg and we only saw you far behind from that point on. The Farr 40 was seven minutes behind us at the leeward mark and you were somewhat behind them. Sorry the low water determined the race. The 105 was in fourth and way back until the leaders went aground. We only slid through the mud very slowly for about a half hour with nine people on the leeward rail. Next month brings another try!

uhhm, so maybe we were passing the farr 40 at the first mark? You might be right, we were too busy trying to avoid the buoy pushed by the current, I think we passed by two inches...
You were very determined in going around the A buoy, the second time. Good on you! We tried hard, but with half a foot more draft, and being late it really was impossible.

See you next time!

Cazza

[miltwempley]

That's some f'd up racing. Drag your keel around the buoy? Glad we don't deal with that variable up here!

[CazzaRanda]

That's some f'd up racing. Drag your keel around the buoy? Glad we don't deal with that variable up here!

gotta give a chance to the 105...

http://www.berkeleyy...s/07-01-sat.htm

Cazza

[misfits]

gotta give a chance to the 105...

http://www.berkeleyy...s/07-01-sat.htm

Cazza

The 105 should be happy that Sapphire also seemed to run aground...... They were soooo far ahead of the fleet after the jib reach to the second mark. I still think there will need to be some adjustment to the FT-10's rating. I can not see how you can owe time to a well sailed Synergy 1000.

[Giorgio Piordgio]

A rating of 36 is going to be lots of fun! When are the next Tigers scheduled to arrive in town? I think 36 is the same as the 1D35s. And I wouldn't expect more than 9 seconds after you've got this summer of racing.

I'm curious to see how these boats go in the summer breeze. Have you done the modifications to the rudder yet?

What's going to be really fun is doing the Spinnaker Cup, Jazz Cup, and Delta Ditch Run. I look forward to seeing the boat.

[miltwempley]

I don't think Cazza's going to find 36 that fun. Especially when he watches the OD35's sail right on by...

[H20]

man 36 is a bitch of a rating for a small boat in any kind of chop.

[nroose]

Any update on the appeal of the 36 rating? IIRC that rating was based on a flawed or innaccurate phrf application. Has the application been refiled? When do you expect to have a new rating?

[CazzaRanda]

Any update on the appeal of the 36 rating? IIRC that rating was based on a flawed or innaccurate phrf application. Has the application been refiled? When do you expect to have a new rating?

norcal PHRF meeting is tomorrow. I've filed for a re-rating given that I had provided wrong ASMG the first time. One of the members of the board was sailing with us saturday, and was able to appreciate first hand the comparison in performances with the Sinergy.

Cazza

[CazzaRanda]

norcal PHRF has been kind enough to consider my request for re-rating and has assigned a rate of 42 to the FT10M in one design configuration.

Cazza

[Clewless]

Well, it's better than 36....

Will not be easy to owe the Synergy time.

Clew

[Giorgio Piordgio]

...or a Mumm 30 at 57, or the N/M 36 at 48, or J-120 at 48 etc, etc... Hell, just looking at the GGYC Midwinters you would also be racing against a C&C 121 with a 51 rating.

GP

[USA-24]

...or a Mumm 30 at 57, or the N/M 36 at 48, or J-120 at 48 etc, etc... Hell, just looking at the GGYC Midwinters you would also be racing against a C&C 121 with a 51 rating.

GP

Mumm 30 SF PHRF 54 with sym. 48 sym & asso

[merlin89]

Yeah, do the Corinthian, except its next week, not next month...(well its both actually but it starts next week) Congrats on the FT, cant wait to see it. We are just fitting out our new to us 911s this week at Pt Rich.

What exactly is the difference between a 911s and a 30? Anybody know when the next FT will show up in the SF area?

[CazzaRanda]

What exactly is the difference between a 911s and a 30? Anybody know when the next FT will show up in the SF area?

I think a 911s is a Porsche. Don't know what a 30 is.

Next FT in the bay is in the 40s. My guess is april/may.

Cazza

[Schnick]

911S is a very large MORC type boat, standing headroom, wide ass, I believe designed by Schumacher, the Olson 30 is a small narrow ULDB designed by Olson.

About as different as you can get and still call them race boats. Neither have much to do with the FT, as they're much slower.

[merlin89]

The Olson 30 is in fact 9 foot wide, doesn't look it. Apparently one needs a special permit to tow it in Cali, but who cares? I thought the 911s was also an Olson, hence the comparison. I knew they are also Porsche's, those were the ones built in the early 70's if I'm not mistaken. Now the Bugatti Veyron...

[CazzaRanda]

we finished the three bridge fiasco doublehanded at around 5.25-5.30PM today... a lot of of fun double handling the FT10 around a course of 21 miles that goes around the three major bridges of the bay.

We went CCW and lost a good 10 minutes at the start to get past the ggate YC. We realized shortacking was the thing, and we hugghed the shore. Setting the spi in front of acquatic park took us a good 20 min... two skippers on board, no bowman, first time doublehandling for both of us and fourth time sailing the FT10. Eventually the spi went up and we stayed clear of the shore of TI were we saw the sinergy sitting in no wind. Around the island and then upwind to red rock. The last beat to red rock was very though: with two people on board and apparent wind over 15 the boat just wouldn't want to point, and you can't use the main. Need a smaller jib. We lost the sinergy that had cacthed up while we were sitting in a hole near point richmond. We made the rock and hoist with all calm. Beatiful spi run to the golden gate via racoon. We passed a few 030s and crossed across the gate. Jibed down to the city front and a nice letter drop while we were heading full steam toward crissy fields (we scared a couple of fishermen on the pier). Last reach to finsh past a J105 and in front of escapade.

What a great day on the water!

Cazza

p.s: nothing broken to report... we almost left the backstay at the hoist yesterday, but this time the hoist broken...

[Andrew W]

Cazza - I am very impressed that you doubled handed the FT. Sounds like a very challenging race. I wish we had a few events like that here in So Cal

[Clewless]

Cazza - I am very impressed that you doubled handed the FT. Sounds like a very challenging race. I wish we had a few events like that here in So Cal

Andy,
We can do the doublehanded around the Coronados....

Clew

[CazzaRanda]

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[Bulga Naba]

Cazza -

Too beautiful for words. You must be pleased.

BN

[Bob Perry]

Cazza:
Congrats on a good sail.
Reading your post was a nice way to start Monday.
Thanks.

[Andrew W]

Andy,
We can do the doublehanded around the Coronados....

Clew

Sounds great Clew - Lets do it.

[bjmoose]

Photo by charlie bergstedt - http://sailing-on-sf-bay.blogspot.com/

I love that picture -- partly because is is just *SO* wrong. You just *NEVER* get a pic of a boat heading TOWARD the GG bridge with its spinnaker up -- it is always beating towards the bridge, spinnaker back away from it ;-)

[merlin89]

I love that picture -- partly because is is just *SO* wrong. You just *NEVER* get a pic of a boat heading TOWARD the GG bridge with its spinnaker up -- it is always beating towards the bridge, spinnaker back away from it ;-)

We did that as well last sunday when the QM2 was coming in. We got about three miles out and had to go uphill against a 5 kt ebb thru the gate. Our 40 minute downwind jaunt cost us four hours uphill.

[Bob W]

Ah, vindication--

I was out for the FIRST EVER (sorry about the shouting) "just for fun" sail on our new-2-us Cal 39. We brought this boat up from MDR in Oct, and since then it's been work, work, work. Finally, have the new sails on and all tweaks to the engine done so it was time to try it out. The qm2 arrival was gravy. But with the light offshore winds (except around blunt, 18 knots there) and stong ebb, elected to hang around off of crissy instead of going out the gate. Sounds like that was the better idea.

bw, proud co-owner of a 4-knot (doubled) shitbox.

[CazzaRanda]

A bullett today!!! We're reported first of a full division of non-finishers...

We spent a couple of hours fighting the current shortacking the cost of Tiburon. We even made friends with a few tourists on the Pier that kept seeing the same boats coming along shore just to be swept back after the pier over and over again. I guess they're wondering how a crazy sport sailing it is... Highlight of the day when I asked water to a big beneteau. They answered "it's forty feet deep here", one minute later they were aground starting the engine...

The moment I touched the engine door to drop from the race, the wind turned around and the spis went up. We jibed down racoon strait and started fighting the current toward red rock... wind dropped again: time for beers, sandwiches and enjoying the 25 degrees (celsius!) winterday.

All italian crew today: we flew the big "tricolore" in the pre-start and it was really cool to call the maneuvres in italian... Vira!

Cazza

[CazzaRanda]

The Keg of the San Fran Fleet has arrived yesterday, courtesy of Bill Stevens... "At Keepers discretion it may be consumed prior to the start or after the finish of the race by ALL HANDS".

Will make a local amendment to class rules and fill with fine grappa...

Cazza

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["DA MAN"]

OH NO YOU WON'T! NOT TILL I GET MINE.

[Bob Perry]

Congrats Fabio! I guess it's like a win. sort of.

[Uncle Salty]

so here we are bashing up the south side of Angel island during saturday's HDA race In about 18 knots and coming down at us is one out of control FT. Spinnaker in the water, yelling, looks of panic etc. We got out of the way.
My newbie crew thought it was cool maybe your's did too.

Cheers

[CazzaRanda]

so here we are bashing up the south side of Angel island during saturday's HDA race In about 18 knots and coming down at us is one out of control FT. Spinnaker in the water, yelling, looks of panic etc. We got out of the way.
My newbie crew thought it was cool maybe your's did too.

Cheers

That was my partner a bit short on crew and showing to a guy at his second time on a sailboat how to do mast... If you listened carefully I'm sure you would have learnt a few interesting new italian words... His phone report at the end of the day started with 'che disastro!!!'.

Thanks for keeping clear...

Cazza

[NoStrings]

That had to be on the second downwind wasn't it? I was wondering how the hell Cento Miglia DNF'd. I thought I counted at least 5 heads on board at the start.

[CazzaRanda]

Just got a couple of good news that I wanted to share.

The second hull in norcal (I think is #30something...) was splashed last weekend on huntington lake. The owner reports that everything is allright, and should be at the line of its first race on the lake this sunday.

Hull #50 is being built right now, and should arrive at the end of June/begin of July in King Harbor. It'll then be trailered up to Alameda where he'll reside as 3rd northenrcalifornian FT10 (2nd in San Fran).

Good news,
Cazza

[StayinStrewn]

word...great to see the next fleet building up....now, where are the East Coast boats??!?!

[CazzaRanda]

#50 made it safe and sound to the Bay last nite, arrived at KKMI sat morning at 3AM after a long journey from LA . The owner left at 5AM fri morning for a loooong round trip, and even if he singlehandles a lot that still seems a long watch to me... all's good.

Cazza

[nroose]

So how many are in SF Bay now?

[Giorgio Piordgio]

2

[CazzaRanda]

Plus a 3rd one in Norcal that is berthed in Huntington Lake and plans to come up for bigger events like big ditch and the like.

Cazza

[CazzaRanda]

And here are few pics of #50. Boat was still on the travelift so I couldn't climb on board. Hull seemed in great conditions. This has been delivered without kelp cutter, and I noted the control for the fine main tuning and the cam for the pole out moved on the side, as suggested by first owners. Engine door appears very smooth.

good times...

Cazza

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[30Man]

Nice work Bill, that hull looks so much better than the early ones. Really clean!

[Lost in Translation]

Cazza, it was good to meet you at Pt Richmond last week where I was out sailing an Etchells. The boat is outstanding. Next time I'm back in the Bay area, I'll let you know.

[CazzaRanda]

Cazza, it was good to meet you at Pt Richmond last week where I was out sailing an Etchells. The boat is outstanding. Next time I'm back in the Bay area, I'll let you know.

Any time. #50 will be in the water this weekend most likely: more chances to sail a tiger when you're here.

Cazza

[solosailor]

Any time. #50 will be in the water this weekend most likely: more chances to sail a tiger when you're here.

You should come out and race in the Silver Eagle race Saturday (iyc.org).

[raff367]

Hull #69 has landed in San Francisco!

We should unwrap the early Christmas present tomorrow and have her join her two sisters in the water in a few weeks (just waiting until the bay cleans up from the oil spill)

[CazzaRanda]

Hull #69 has landed in San Francisco!

We should unwrap the early Christmas present tomorrow and have her join her two sisters in the water in a few weeks (just waiting until the bay cleans up from the oil spill)

Excellent news Raff! When I heard of the ship hitting the bridge my first thought was to check if it was an inbound ship from Xiamen...

Cazza

[Clewless]

Congrats! Any special graphix for hull#69??

[raff367]

We didn't decide yet.
If I was alone I would have probably gone for the same rabbit I have on my previous boat, maybe with tiger teeth or tiger stripes

[schoonerman]

We're trying to startup a dealership for FT's in SF. Not sure where this will go, but it's the best boat for the price point we've seen in a long time and our fleet of SC-27's is aging daily. I have a letter of intent into HipTrader. It's in their court. Doing the research and working on flooring/financing for this project.

We'll have a couple of berths in South Beach for boats that get sold into leaseback.

I'm glad to hear that the fleet is getting a strong start.

We're hoping to bring in 7.5's for the school when they're out of the molds.

Any/all suggestions are welcome.

Drew Harper

spinnaker sailing - sf

[Clewless]

Drew,
Great to see you come on board. We hope to see the FT fleet take off in the Bay.

Make sure you check out www.ft10class.org which is the class web site. And Cazza (our web master) is your best local Bay area contact if you have any questions.

Clew

[schoonerman]

Drew,
Great to see you come on board. We hope to see the FT fleet take off in the Bay.

Make sure you check out www.ft10class.org which is the class web site. And Cazza (our web master) is your best local Bay area contact if you have any questions.

Clew

Thanks Clew. There's FT10 in South Beach Harbor, I'm going to track that guy down and see if he needs any crew or perhaps might let me run a photo session or two on it.

Dawn's in town over the holidays, maybe she can put some of her gal pals on it during a winter blow. Would make for a fun photo session!

I'm sending Cazza a pm now.

Hope this all pulls together. For some reason this boat has struck a chord in me and that hasn't happened in a long time.

Go have some fun!

D

[raff367]

Thanks Clew. There's FT10 in South Beach Harbor, I'm going to track that guy down and see if he needs any crew or perhaps might let me run a photo session or two on it.

Dawn's in town over the holidays, maybe she can put some of her gal pals on it during a winter blow. Would make for a fun photo session!

I'm sending Cazza a pm now.

Hope this all pulls together. For some reason this boat has struck a chord in me and that hasn't happened in a long time.

Go have some fun!

D

Cazza can probably send you info about the Tiger in South Beach. Out boat (lucky #69, the third in the bay) is going to be in Marina Village (Alameda) since after 3 years of waiting I am still a couple of years away from a slip in SB. We are hoping to splash by end of next week (we missed the nice "weather window" and now we are fighting with the rain ):

If you want a ride, just let us know.

[schoonerman]

Cazza can probably send you info about the Tiger in South Beach. Out boat (lucky #69, the third in the bay) is going to be in Marina Village (Alameda) since after 3 years of waiting I am still a couple of years away from a slip in SB. We are hoping to splash by end of next week (we missed the nice "weather window" and now we are fighting with the rain ):

If you want a ride, just let us know.

Thanks, Cazza did let me know and I've emailed John.

Good luck on the splash.

Let me know if you need anything.

Regards....d

ps...check your position at SBH. It's a goofy list.

[CazzaRanda]

Just got this good news from YRA:

An appeal was submitted to the NCPHRF committee for the Flying Tiger 10 Meter rating. The committee met tonight to review the appeal and has changed the rating for the boat to 48 (from 42).

Thanks to the owner of #30 in huntington lake that appealed based on past year results

Cazza

[U20guy2]

You can run aground over there too! It seems like last winters big run off left alot of shoaling. We ran aground in both coves north/east of Pt Tiburon last month. I have been clear to shore in past years!

Hey guys just a heads up even though it was extreme tide I later found out that the Corinthian YC area even in halfway normal tidal action can leave boats sitting in the mud. Extreme tides even a shorty keel will get stuck in some spots just a heads up incase your doing a Sam's cruise etc.

[schoonerman]

Hey guys just a heads up even though it was extreme tide I later found out that the Corinthian YC area even in halfway normal tidal action can leave boats sitting in the mud. Extreme tides even a shorty keel will get stuck in some spots just a heads up incase your doing a Sam's cruise etc.

There's two shoals at Sam's, the first is just off the AI Ferry dock (mud blown by the ferry) and the other is just inside the breakwater. Nominal working depth is no more than 4-5' safe at MLW. It clears up some by mid-summer but will actually get worse in the Spring as the snowmelt accelerates the ebbs down Racoon.

Used to be able to bring my 50 into Corinthian but no more, touched the bottom too often, but then I draw 9'. It seems to be getting worse every year.

Same problems exist at Angel Island in the Spring. Then inner moorings get pretty shallow. By June they're in 10' MLLW. Go figure.

[schoonerman]

Update on Savage Beauty, John Lymberg's FT10

Raced a couple of mid-winters at South Beach Yacht Club's "Island" series.

Race 1 boat was DNF. I didn't race on that one but I heard it was pretty light.

Race 2 Savage Beauty managed a bullet, though it was perhaps inauspicious as it was VERY light air. Mixed fleet of PHRF boats. "Beauty" was the only boat to finish in her class as the current built and the wind dropped. Light air performance was much better than I expected. No tuning notes as it was the first sail I've had on a Tiger.

Race 3 (last race) boat was DNF (damnitalltohell) We were sailing a bit light, with 4 crew and prior to the start we switched from the #3 to the #4 headsail in 12 knots and building. Would have a been perfect had the wind managed to build or even stay the same. Good start, clear air, low side. Dashed out into the increasing 3 knot ebb to the first mark, Alcatraz, either side. Wind died in the slot so we 'current' sailed to the island, played the reverse cone up to Little Alcatraz and then got slammed with a 4+ knot ebb. Next mark was Treasure Island, so we had to find a way to beat the ebb and get around that. No luck, wind died completely. Ended up drifting 2 miles backwards out the Gate to little Bonita Cove. As there was a 6pm deadline we had decided to throw in the towel by 4 as we had LOOONG way to go in no wind. Played the eddy up Little Bonita back to the North Tower of the GG Bridge and found some wind, it was 4:05. Set the kite and followed a myriad of wind fingers up the Bay, gybing to find them, yes Virginia Wolfe, it is possible to beat a huge ebb in no breeze. Finally made Treasure Island though we had to sail low (mid island) as that was the only finger of wind we could find, sailed the early flood wash north up the beach, round the lee side of the island and deep into the East Bay where we finally had to drop the kite and headsail home. Ended up finishing at 6:05 (grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr).

Tuning notes. As it's only my second time on a Tiger, and never in breeze above 12 (I know, we're spoiled) it's hard to say where the numbers are. Main likes to breathe and it was traveler up and open leach most of the day. Close off the leach and the boat slowed. Only problem with the Pryde sails is the leach is sewn with a bit of cup to it and it's hard to vent it. Leach line was loose as it could be. Main was fast when it was ugly. Soft luff and floppy foot. Hindsight being 20/20 we should have squashed the main to depower it instead of changing the headsail prior to the race. Not sure the main can be depowered (bent) THAT much, but probably better than tedious jib changes. It's been awhile since I managed headsail changes with hanks. Not sure if it's in the class rules but so far, I'm not a big fan of the Facnor furler, but it'll probably grow on me. Hard to beat a Harken though. As the mainshape is so important on a Tiger, I think access to controls for the sail might be better led further aft. Will know more on that as time goes. Headsail leads are critical and the sheeting angle allows the boat good upwind ability, given very flat water. Would be great to have remote lead lines, but that adds cost, soooooo. Even a little chop and she's well off her speed. Add lots of power and she'll get back up there, but you need butts on the rail to keep her flat with more power.

Summary: The owner is a single hander and I think, in absence of a 'perfect' autopilot, he's going to have his hands full sailing her alone as all the controls are too far from the helm. I think the #4 is still going to be a handful on the weather legs in June, without some BIG butts onboard. We shall see. Boat gybes SO easy that you'll find yourself looking for kite opportunities. The helm is VERY well balanced, tends a bit to lee helm in light air (Rig tune) and needs a very steady and slow hand on her. Still a fair amount of slop in the rudder cassette which needs to be addressed. Would be great to find/build a composite tiller. The outboard setup works well, but needs perhaps more ventilation in the engine hatch. The interior rocks for a boat her size. You can easily 'camp' aboard this little boat.

This is one FUN boat to sail. My own boat is a SC-50 so I know fun sailing

Looking forward to much more Tiger racing on the bay with hull #69 coming on line here and a few more boats getting delivered into the area.

(Tigers look fast even at the dock )

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[PHM]

Schoonerman,

The Harken furler is in the class rules (or will be in the next draft) and works great. Same with after-market tillers (I have the Phil's Foils tiller which I'm very happy with). The FT10 is definitely a blast to sail.

[schoonerman]

Schoonerman,

The Harken furler is in the class rules (or will be in the next draft) and works great. Same with after-market tillers (I have the Phil's Foils tiller which I'm very happy with). The FT10 is definitely a blast to sail.

Thanks PHM. Harken Furler would definately make those headsail changes much faster and I think is less prone to jamming. Checking out the PF tiller.

Thanks again!

[CazzaRanda]

I've just got word that Savage Beauty entered the SSS Corinthian race doublehanded this weekend. Conditions where 12-25 with gusts to 30 in the slot. Skipper and crew were ballsy enough to hoist and hit 16 knots in the slot... They got first to the gun, but corrected to the back of the fleet. Not bad for the first DH race in summer conditions... probably an indication that in good hands the boat can be doublehanded in strong winds.

Well done!

Cazza

By the way: Savage Beauty also singlehanded back the upwind leg of vallejo (not racing), reporting good boat handling in short chop and strong headwinds with only the small jib up.

[solosailor]

Skipper and crew were ballsy enough to hoist and hit 16 knots in the slot...

No offense..... but that's not ballsy, just downright fun! Most boats set spinnakers, singlehanded included. Doublehanded spinnaker runs on the Tiger should be a walk in the park. Congrats on the 2nd fastest monohull elapsed time.

[Crackers]

No offense..... but that's not ballsy, just downright fun! Most boats set spinnakers, singlehanded included. Doublehanded spinnaker runs on the Tiger should be a walk in the park. Congrats on the 2nd fastest monohull elapsed time.

Solo is right, the kite run from Blackhaller to Southhampton was huge fun, and we had a great time. We had our #4 and full main and made it work, though it was a bit slow upwind. Kudos to my crew guy for his outstanding work. First time for us, nothing broke, so we're reasonably happy (corrected time sucked). And congrats to solosailor, 2nd overall, first in his class singlehanded.

[CazzaRanda]

Flying Tigers are invited at the RYC Sportfest, August 23-24.

One Tiger might be driving down from PNW, and we should have the 4 entries required for an FT10 miniclass. Everybody else wants to come to play in big winds?




By the way, we have a website for the Norcal fleet now... we just need a couple more local boats to get to more OD starts...


Cazza

We need more of these pics...

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[Bob Perry]

Congrats to SAVAGE BEAUTY!!!!!!

[Crackers]

Congrats to SAVAGE BEAUTY!!!!!!

Thanks Bob! We're having huge fun on the tiger. It seems that just about every time we go out it is a thrilling, memorable experience. This pic is from a few weeks ago in the YRA 2nd half opener. We made a bunch of mistakes, but still came in 2nd in a large and competitive phrf fleet. We need more tigers in SF Bay!

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[CazzaRanda]

a few good memories from this year of sailing in the Bay...

pics credit to Peter Lyons and Norcal Sailing

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[CazzaRanda]

One more entry for 2008 memory lane: Norcal Sailig's Delta Ditch Run Movie, with the infamous "battle of the Tigers"...

Buon Anno!

Cazza

[CazzaRanda]

enjoy this video from last saturday's Silver Eagle, a 50 miles race inside the bay. Converstaions are in italian, sorry... a good chance to learn how to swear in that language if you have an inclination to do so.

Cazza


Photo credit: norcalsailing.com

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[porttack]

What happened to the other Tiger?

[CazzaRanda]

We stayed together for half the race, but in the long upwind leg they were suffering with the OEM main (and a little less weigth on the rail), and tried to break up with the lead boats by staying on the other side of the course. It didn't worked out. The Azurra did a great race too, and finished a couple of min ahead of us, but missed a mandatory checkin and was DNFd. Very unfortunate after 8+ hours of great racing.

Cazza.

What happened to the other Tiger?

[d'ranger]

Nice job on the video and the win! Boat looks great and you guys have done well in getting your Tiger up to speed. The weather looks like heaven for those of us baking in the Texas heat.

[PHM]

Cazza, great video. Welcome back--it's good to see you out sailing again!

[Bulga Naba]

Cazz

Great stuff, nice win.

Post it on the Tiger Site,a s things are getting a little stale there.

Hope your health, new baby, work - asll is good.

Cheers,

Phillip

[solosailor]

The Azurra did a great race too, and finished a couple of min ahead of us, but missed a mandatory checkin and was DNFd. Very unfortunate after 8+ hours of great racing.

You can never read the instructions to carefully...... three of us onboard read the instructions several times but obviously breezed through the Radio Check-In/Withdrawal section, which should have read "Radio Check-In/Withdrawal/ROLL CALL". Anyway, what kind of <50nm race, all in the Bay, needs a roll-call radio check-in DURING the race? In daylight no less! This wasn't an ocean race, nor overnight race. Anyway, it was suppose to be a fun, one-off non-counter race for us, and it was. We managed to show up 14 minutes late to the start and rolled the whole fleet - we know who won on the course.

A tip to both FT10 crews - every time I looked at your jibs on the long upwind beat the leaches were flapping = not fast. Also, in my opinion, a narrow boat like the FT10 doesn't need so many bodies on the rail and boat.... even in a blow. Seems like the boat is just sinking in the water (similar problem with my Black Soo - Starbuck) with the rail meat 'over' the keel, not providing much righting moment and just making you slower off the wind and during the light sections.

[Crackers]

The Azurra did a great race too, and finished a couple of min ahead of us, but missed a mandatory checkin and was DNFd. Very unfortunate after 8+ hours of great racing.

You can never read the instructions to carefully...... three of us onboard read the instructions several times but obviously breezed through the Radio Check-In/Withdrawal section, which should have read "Radio Check-In/Withdrawal/ROLL CALL". Anyway, what kind of <50nm race, all in the Bay, needs a roll-call radio check-in DURING the race? In daylight no less! This wasn't an ocean race, nor overnight race. Anyway, it was suppose to be a fun, one-off non-counter race for us, and it was. We managed to show up 14 minutes late to the start and rolled the whole fleet - we know who won on the course.

A tip to both FT10 crews - every time I looked at your jibs on the long upwind beat the leaches were flapping = not fast. Also, in my opinion, a narrow boat like the FT10 doesn't need so many bodies on the rail and boat.... even in a blow. Seems like the boat is just sinking in the water (similar problem with my Black Soo - Starbuck) with the rail meat 'over' the keel, not providing much righting moment and just making you slower off the wind and during the light sections.

Right. Those that makes the fewest mistakes will come out on top. We had about a half mile lead on the fleet and was talked into a "windward hoist-walk-the-kite-around-the forestay" which wrapped so bad it took over five minutes to sort out. And that was the race. Saw the flapping leach and fixed it, but that was the least of our problems-thanks. Outsider always races well, one mistake and you're done. Cento was faster than us upwind. Guess I'll have to spring for that new main. Congrats to Cento and Outsider, look forward to seeing you out on the course next time.

[solosailor]

We had about a half mile lead on the fleet and was talked into a "windward hoist-walk-the-kite-around-the forestay" which wrapped so bad it took over five minutes to sort out.

Oh man, that brings back bad memories of my attempt to weather set once, once to many. OK, OK, so I've tried it again and again thinking, I can make it work this time!

[CazzaRanda]

This was meant just for post-race analysis, but I guess it's more entertaining than the shitfight between the usual characters going on in the Rudder thread:


Have fun...

Cazza

[CazzaRanda]

Here is a video of last saturday's GGYC Midwinter #1. We were a bit shorthanded (4 people) and we didn't do very well (7th in the non-Easom subdivision of PHRF2 and behind the other Tiger that is the only one we care about), but racing the FT10 shorthanded is challenging and rewarding. Check out how happy the crew was at the finish.

The third FT in the SF Bay is up for grab (or partnership, I suspect) for a few tens of thousand bucks. If you want to join the fun take a look at the classifieds.

Cazza

[ronnie_simpson]

Fabio, your videos are looking great! I need to get back out there on the water with you guys... Nice job!

ronnie

[CazzaRanda]

looking fwd to have you back on board. Happy V-Day man!

Fabio, your videos are looking great! I need to get back out there on the water with you guys... Nice job!

ronnie

[CazzaRanda]

another one from last saturday GGYC race, plus a short sequence of fooling around upwind with a spi after the race. I was surprised how flat the spi got (regular class spi), and how high we were going once jib and main were trimmed properly.Probably 60 deg apparent, with 8-10 knots of wind

[TVHSD]

Seems you have plenty of bite at that angle. You must be very happy with the new rudder. -t

[CazzaRanda]

This is last weekend IYC silver eagle, a 50 miles races in the bay. Go to 3:00 for the fast run to petaluma trading jibes with the other FT10 with speed in the mid teens all the way. We retired after crossing a restricted zone, but the long fast run was well worthy...




Cazza

[StayinStrewn]

cool!

[Bob Perry]

Fabio:
Many thanks for the great vids. It's always fun for me to watch people have fun in one of my boats.

[CazzaRanda]

This is yesterday's Sarcoma Cup, a quick race up and down the Slot... (downwind fun starts at 0:24)



Cazza