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#1001 spoon

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 12:47 PM

Hi guys.

crunchtime skipper here, sailing out of w.a

have been thinking about getting a crew together and going over to sydney for the next state title or aussie champs.

please keep me upto date on when this could happen. currently we sail against 1 tiger and 3 bull 9000.

sailing in a fleet of tigers is exciting

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 07:58 PM

CYCA Winter Series in Sydney last Sunday

Gusts up to 41 knots
Shere Khan (#77) did 17 knots with a reef, small main and no kite up

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 01:54 AM

CYCA Winter Series in Sydney last Sunday

Gusts up to 41 knots
Shere Khan (#77) did 17 knots with a reef, small main and no kite up

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Great day , the two FT10's Shere Khan and SIGURD battled neck to neck for the two hours of the race. SIGURD foolishly carried a full main but with Traveller down and a bit of Main Sail Flagging was able to keep the boat on her feet for most of the day. Did not have one round up, while others around us had plenty. Just goes to show that the FT10 can match it in high winds. Although the favoured breeze is 7 to 10 knots, in 25 knots the Tiger come back into its own being able to surf while many others can not. SIGURD saw 14 knots two sail reaching, Shere Khan got a bigger blow and saw more for a short time. Tigers second and third on elapsed time , behind a T7 and a F30 who both had the balls to fly kites. Tiger owners in Sydney Harbour are much more circumspect following some past issues involving kites, headlands and letters to Insurance Companies.

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 08:43 AM

Hi guys.

crunchtime skipper here, sailing out of w.a

have been thinking about getting a crew together and going over to sydney for the next state title or aussie champs.

please keep me upto date on when this could happen. currently we sail against 1 tiger and 3 bull 9000.

sailing in a fleet of tigers is exciting



Would be great to have a crew from WA , what about Vic and Qld as well. Do you plan to bring a boat with you or are you planning to lease a local boat. May be one or two available but would not count on it. The couple of boats that did not sail this year are threatening to do so next year. Hope to see you in 2013. What about an International entry as well. There was a threat from one of those crack SC crews. Lets make 2013 a big year for the Tigers. Hopefully we can put something together so that you can do State titles, Super 30 and Nationals in a two week stay plus a couple of twilights and a few beers in between. Sounds like a plan to me.

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 10:49 AM

The plane is a kit, so in some ways easier to pull off. The boats are a little harder. The two big things on a boat are the keel and Mast. The mast was built by CST unfinished in Austrailia. 20 at a time sent to Xiamen with booms. If you could get one direct that would help but the cost is so low you would need to be in part of a 20 mast order for CST to want to help. Currently Hengchow or whoever that is building the Flying Tiger does not have that many boats going through prodution. If the keel was either shipped seperately as a seperate cost or made to Flying Tigers spec in OZ then you would be able to possible stamp an OZ hull number on it from an Australian builder. Keel is a big thing in this and the ruling changes with the country.
Deck gear for that boat is only about $1,000 if there is no furler.

If you want to build the fleet I would ask FT if they would be willing to sell a small builder in Australia kit boats with no keel and mast. Then have them sourced locally. I am sure CST would consider at least a 5 boat run of rigs with only a little more on the cost. This is feasible if the fleet and the prospects are but needs a lot of work.

Good luck, stay off the rocks in Sydney Harbor.

On the tax issue, I have a friend buying a new ultralite plane from the states. He has arranged with the factory to say he is building more than 51% off it so he doesn't get hit with some sort off import tax. The only thing is he has to go over there for 4 weeks to make it look like he is building it. It takes them that long to build it and pack it into the container. He said the amount he saves more than pays for the 4 weeks holiday he has over there. If they are going to turn these things out in a week or 2 you may get a cheap trip to china and save some money



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Posted 15 May 2012 - 07:35 AM

The plane is a kit, so in some ways easier to pull off. The boats are a little harder. The two big things on a boat are the keel and Mast. The mast was built by CST unfinished in Austrailia. 20 at a time sent to Xiamen with booms. If you could get one direct that would help but the cost is so low you would need to be in part of a 20 mast order for CST to want to help. Currently Hengchow or whoever that is building the Flying Tiger does not have that many boats going through prodution. If the keel was either shipped seperately as a seperate cost or made to Flying Tigers spec in OZ then you would be able to possible stamp an OZ hull number on it from an Australian builder. Keel is a big thing in this and the ruling changes with the country.
Deck gear for that boat is only about $1,000 if there is no furler.

If you want to build the fleet I would ask FT if they would be willing to sell a small builder in Australia kit boats with no keel and mast. Then have them sourced locally. I am sure CST would consider at least a 5 boat run of rigs with only a little more on the cost. This is feasible if the fleet and the prospects are but needs a lot of work.

Good luck, stay off the rocks in Sydney Harbor.


On the tax issue, I have a friend buying a new ultralite plane from the states. He has arranged with the factory to say he is building more than 51% off it so he doesn't get hit with some sort off import tax. The only thing is he has to go over there for 4 weeks to make it look like he is building it. It takes them that long to build it and pack it into the container. He said the amount he saves more than pays for the 4 weeks holiday he has over there. If they are going to turn these things out in a week or 2 you may get a cheap trip to china and save some money


Mmmm... The tax issue is significant but not necessarily huge enough when importing an FT10 to warrant the complications being suggested. For OZ import, Duty is added at 5% of landed cost and then 10% GST is added. Now, both are calculated on the commercial value included in the shipment and this is not necessarily the same as purchase price… Lets call it the ex factory (wholesale) cost... So we could be talking less than $A8000 total tax. Taking the mast and keel off the ex factory cost and sourcing locally is unlikely to save much at all. GST is still payable.

Not sure what the current list is for an FT10 ex China is but it will be less than $US70K. Can still be out racing for not much more than $A100K...




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