[kmccabe]

OK - - pics please.

[WCB]

DMR, on Dec 20 2006, 02:23 AM, said:

If you hung from the mast watching the boat to windward gain 1/2 a boatlength as someone figure out how to open the bailer or move the ram 1/4" you'd hate on it too.

Well said DMR. The work involved with a tack or gybe is always less frustrating than watching your skipper with his head in the boat fiddling with something and the competition sailing away from you.

I've installed three or four of those 210 winchless systems that Carbon has talked about. If anybody wants a description, it's easy to do. Besides taking up a little room on the tank, it would be pretty easy to install as it only needs the jib track, some dead ends on the diagnol bulkhead and that might just do it. The sweet part of this system is that you sheet in like a normal tack so the boat is fast out of the tack, then you fine trim when you have time.

WCB

[Frumious Bandersnatch]

Anybody know what happend to the Lindsey 505 formerly raced by Tarzan [Dave Kellogg] that at one point was redecked due to a mast going thru the deck during a capsize/turtling incident? Don't remember the hull number.
I seem to remember the hull was green and the deck mahogany. I considered buying it in the '80s after the repair. Think it was a foam/epoxy version.

And what became of the Lindsey FD sailed by Steve Taylor/Dave Penfield in which they won the FD worlds in South Africa before the 1980 Olympic boycott?

[Red Dragon]

I wanted to ask you guys this: so there is a kit you can order with a molded piece for the launcher? We use launchers on the Dragons. I believe that the BB boats are still offset (mine is offset) but the Petticrows boats have the launcher in the center of the boat. The only problem I have ever encountered with mine is not getting the sail in quickly enough and running over it. Other than that happening once, I would highly recommend the launching system as we have never had a twist coming out of it and the launch and takedown are as easy as can be.

It is so great to see the 5o's and FD's so healthy. Good stuff.

[USA-7]

Frumious Bandersnatch, on Dec 27 2006, 12:22 AM, said:

And what became of the Lindsey FD sailed by Steve Taylor/Dave Penfield in which they won the FD worlds in South Africa before the 1980 Olympic boycott?

Actually a carbon fiber shell built by Vanguard, finished out by Lindsay.
article with pics here.
current whereabouts unknown. May have been left in Spain in 1979.
there were two of them. Mike Loeb had an identicle boat. that one is thought to be in Mexico.

[kmccabe]

Frumious Bandersnatch, on Dec 27 2006, 12:22 AM, said:

Anybody know what happend to the Lindsey 505 formerly raced by Tarzan [Dave Kellogg] that at one point was redecked due to a mast going thru the deck during a capsize/turtling incident? Don't remember the hull number.
I seem to remember the hull was green and the deck mahogany. I considered buying it in the '80s after the repair. Think it was a foam/epoxy version.

And what became of the Lindsey FD sailed by Steve Taylor/Dave Penfield in which they won the FD worlds in South Africa before the 1980 Olympic boycott?

That was the thought that made me reach out to the FD class. THAT was a fantastic boat and quite beautiful. I remember seeing it for the first time in Wickford at the annual spring regatta and thinking - that has to be the most beautiful boat I have EVER seen. The Mike Loab boat I tracked down, it was sold to someone who lived in Loveladies and who gave it to his son to sail up in Boston. That's the last I've heard of it. I wish I knew who owned it now, I'd pay a lot for it.

[USA-7]

kmccabe, on Dec 27 2006, 09:34 AM, said:

That was the thought that made me reach out to the FD class. THAT was a fantastic boat and quite beautiful. I remember seeing it for the first time in Wickford at the annual spring regatta and thinking - that has to be the most beautiful boat I have EVER seen. The Mike Loab boat I tracked down, it was sold to someone who lived in Loveladies and who gave it to his son to sail up in Boston. That's the last I've heard of it. I wish I knew who owned it now, I'd pay a lot for it.

I sailed in the 470 in that Wickford regatta.

there were also two Lindsay finished FDs built in Bob Hoare shells in 1978.
One of those is in Cazenovia NY, but no longer in sailing condition.
Here is Carl sailing the boat in 2002
http://www.sailingsource.com/sailfd/USA/img/caz/caz02/caz2.jpg

[kmccabe]

I loved the Wickford Regattas. I was there in a Parker 505 fresh from the Worlds in South
Africa. That's what we're trying to do at AYC, create a spring and fall regatta that is multiclass dinghy oriented. We'd really love you guys to show and quite frankly ANY class to show. We can house and host. The goal is to recreate the Wickford Spring regatta.

[kmccabe]

USA-7, on Dec 27 2006, 09:42 AM, said:

I sailed in the 470 in that Wickford regatta.

there were also two Lindsay finished FDs built in Bob Hoare shells in 1978.
One of those is in Cazenovia NY, but no longer in sailing condition.
Here is Carl sailing the boat in 2002
http://www.sailingsource.com/sailfd/USA/img/caz/caz02/caz2.jpg

Here is what it looks like today.

http://i13.tinypic.com/2d1u70p.jpg

[LickitySplinter]

http://forums.sailinganarchy.com/public/style_images/master/snapback.png' alt='View Post' />kmccabe, on Dec 16 2006, 08:57 AM, said:

There were three screws on the top... do you think they could be epoxied in place? I'm trying to pull one out and don't want to mess up the compass. Your thoughts as to how they were secured in place.....

kmccabe

Love this photo, what a great looking boat! Hey, I'm a rigging junkie do you have any rigging pics or diagrams that you can/will post?

Lickitysplinter6665

[kmccabe]

Lots - - tonight.

[LickitySplinter]

kmccabe, on Jan 8 2007, 04:16 AM, said:

Lots - - tonight.

Still hoping for more pics of your awsome boat, are they forthcoming?

[kmccabe]

when I say I've got a lot, I mean it. What system are your hot buttons?

[Dog]

That is turely a sweet looking Lindsay. It has been a long time since I sailed a 505 and I don't remember the shroud/headstay adjustment system I see in the picture. Are you guys changing rig tension, mast rake or both on the water these days?

[kmccabe]

Both, but it's really not done on the water too much. You CAN do it, but does anybody really?

Let me know if you want a ride. Where are you based?

[another 505 sailor]

kmccabe, on Jan 9 2007, 11:32 AM, said:

Both, but it's really not done on the water too much. You CAN do it, but does anybody really?

Let me know if you want a ride. Where are you based?

yes, rake and rig tension adjustments while racing are quite common.

[kmccabe]

Maybe its a good idea to throw up some numbers for rake. I'll take a look at my boat this evening.

[Dog]

kmccabe, on Jan 9 2007, 11:32 AM, said:

Both, but it's really not done on the water too much. You CAN do it, but does anybody really?

Let me know if you want a ride. Where are you based?

Damn...I would love a ride on that thing...I'm on the east coat. Normal range for regattas is Virginia to Great Lakes. Occasionally further south.

[another 505 sailor]

kmccabe, on Jan 9 2007, 01:21 PM, said:

Maybe its a good idea to throw up some numbers for rake. I'll take a look at my boat this evening.

let's see if I did this right.

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[kmccabe]

Dog, on Jan 9 2007, 04:25 PM, said:

Damn...I would love a ride on that thing...I'm on the east coat. Normal range for regattas is Virginia to Great Lakes. Occasionally further south.

Well the boat went out last weekend as you can see from my other posts. It's based north of NYC. I haven't traveled with it much YET. U around NYC? Ever? Let me know and a free ride shall be granted.

Rake numbers from my boat:

25' 8" from the top of the mast to the bottom centerline edge of the transom. That's my not remotely overpowered position. The numbers then drop to 25'4" which I have yet to ever sail with.

[kmccabe]

another 505 sailor, on Jan 9 2007, 05:17 PM, said:

let's see if I did this right.

HEY GOOD JOB!!!!!

[5o5crew]

Don't worry. You'll need to get down there in good time. If you don't have enough play to get beyond that, you should fix it. We got from 25'9" to 24'10"

I've needed every inch. It reminds you why you need the reefer on the boom.

kmccabe, on Jan 9 2007, 06:43 PM, said:

Rake numbers from my boat:
25' 8" from the top of the mast to the bottom centerline edge of the transom. That's my not remotely overpowered position. The numbers then drop to 25'4" which I have yet to ever sail with.

[another 505 sailor]

5o5crew, on Jan 9 2007, 04:00 PM, said:

Don't worry. You'll need to get down there in good time. If you don't have enough play to get beyond that, you should fix it. We got from 25'9" to 24'10"

I've needed every inch. It reminds you why you need the reefer on the boom.

Mike Martin called the old main with a reef the roachy reefer. now the mains have reefcon 2.
those reefs sure are nice at the end of the day when you get tired.

[Dirk Vivisect]

another 505 sailor, on Jan 9 2007, 02:17 PM, said:

let's see if I did this right.

Those numbers show more rake than the previous tuning guides did, for sure.

But isn't that because the new boats (well, Howard's boat anyway, which I guess was the base line) are using high-aspect centreboards?

So, boats with the older low-aspect CB should still be sailing with the previous incarnation of the matrix (ie. less rake), right? The one that was developed for the low-aspect board.

Yes/no? Reasons?