alot of hard work. I'm looking forewark to getting on with the next project.
How did you find the rogers...slides doesn't it
like a cut snake! another fast 46 footer would be good to play funny buggers with
Posted 20 June 2007 - 07:17 AM
alot of hard work. I'm looking forewark to getting on with the next project.
How did you find the rogers...slides doesn't it
Posted 20 June 2007 - 10:01 AM
like a cut snake! another fast 46 footer would be good to play funny buggers with
Posted 20 June 2007 - 10:45 AM
QT,
How is the Rogers expected to go against the existing boats (e.g. XLR8 which is now a swept back RP46 version, and the upgraded "Dolly") and the new "Cougar TP52" ? The mail from UK is that they struggle to sail to their rating, but there could be differences between what's over there and Shogun.
I hope she goes well. Do you have any pictures of the boat?
Also, does anyone have an update on the porgress of the new Flirt and Chutzpah? The Corby website shows a deck mould from a while back and the Hart website has nothing. I assume the RP is be a downhill favoured design, but what about the Corby?
dbo
Posted 20 June 2007 - 10:53 AM
Posted 20 June 2007 - 11:13 AM
the rogers isnt a bad looking machine but can money buy success?
Posted 20 June 2007 - 01:38 PM
Posted 20 June 2007 - 02:21 PM
Posted 20 June 2007 - 02:31 PM
Do any of you guys know of a boat called Stilletto?
40 foot wooden yacht with flush deck?
My father built it in the late 70's and she was origionally called Syrenka and raced on the west coast.
Some time ago she was racing in Williamstown (sp) and the last we heard, she had wiped out and broken the runner heading to hobart. The owner was going to put a canting keel
Was a down hill flyer but not so fast up hill as she was quite light. One of the first ever fin keel yachts in Australia
Cheers
Posted 20 June 2007 - 11:36 PM
like a cut snake! another fast 46 footer would be good to play funny buggers with
Posted 20 June 2007 - 11:44 PM
QT,
How is the Rogers expected to go against the existing boats (e.g. XLR8 which is now a swept back RP46 version, and the upgraded "Dolly") and the new "Cougar TP52" ? The mail from UK is that they struggle to sail to their rating, but there could be differences between what's over there and Shogun.
I hope she goes well. Do you have any pictures of the boat?
Also, does anyone have an update on the porgress of the new Flirt and Chutzpah? The Corby website shows a deck mould from a while back and the Hart website has nothing. I assume the RP is be a downhill favoured design, but what about the Corby?
dbo
Posted 20 June 2007 - 11:47 PM
Do any of you guys know of a boat called Stilletto?
40 foot wooden yacht with flush deck?
My father built it in the late 70's and she was origionally called Syrenka and raced on the west coast.
Some time ago she was racing in Williamstown (sp) and the last we heard, she had wiped out and broken the runner heading to hobart. The owner was going to put a canting keel
Was a down hill flyer but not so fast up hill as she was quite light. One of the first ever fin keel yachts in Australia
Cheers
Posted 21 June 2007 - 12:08 AM
Canting keel added to a 70's woodie... 30-odd yrs later?! Ok - you got my attention.
Surely you jest?
Rex Palmer had her at Hobsons Bay YC for a few years. Known as the splinter. Fastish downhill but diabolical to ww.I think at some stage they cut a bit off the keel so they could get into their marina berth at HBYC which did little for the performance. Big call taking that to Hobart.
Posted 21 June 2007 - 02:27 AM
Was XLR8 done by Southern or did GT go for Applied?
Posted 21 June 2007 - 02:29 AM
Posted 21 June 2007 - 03:10 AM
The new Cougar is supposedly one of the Spainish TP 52's anyone know which one?
Posted 21 June 2007 - 03:52 AM
Posted 21 June 2007 - 03:56 AM
Stiletto was a true POS. 50ish foot long with a short masthead rig in the middle of the boat. Keel had a squarish lump of iron on the bottom with the flow characteristics of a shopping trolley. Unless it was blowing a gale up her arse she couldn't get out of the way of an Optimist! Good riddance.
Posted 21 June 2007 - 04:41 AM
The new Cougar is supposedly one of the Spainish TP 52's anyone know which one?
Posted 21 June 2007 - 06:48 AM
Let's not get ahead of ourselves mate. You have to beat the 30 - 40 footers first.
Posted 21 June 2007 - 07:09 AM
Stiletto was a true POS. 50ish foot long with a short masthead rig in the middle of the boat. Keel had a squarish lump of iron on the bottom with the flow characteristics of a shopping trolley. Unless it was blowing a gale up her arse she couldn't get out of the way of an Optimist! Good riddance.
Ouch Judge, a bit harsh.
Water flows through shopping trolleys so they would have must less drag than the impervious hunk of scrap metal on the bottom of Stillborn's keel.![]()
Would have made a great cruising boat... for anyone under about 3ft tall.
Probably right about the Opti though...
Posted 21 June 2007 - 07:19 AM
The lump on the keel was an addition after she was sold. Quite a few peple have told me about the boat sitting on 20+ knots down the river so the boat could fly in the right conditions. It was sold and out of the state before my time
She was a 40 footer with a plum bow open stern and fin keel so some parts were well ahead of her time.
When it was first built the rig fell straight off it due to a design fault but it did some very hard long offshore races - and won them.
Posted 21 June 2007 - 07:35 AM
ok i gotta see a photo of this thing
Posted 21 June 2007 - 08:28 AM
The new Cougar is supposedly one of the Spainish TP 52's anyone know which one?
Posted 21 June 2007 - 09:16 AM
Bribon went to vancouver (was a thread on that around here some time back)Hopefully not the one that got T-Boned big time (? ex Bribon 06)
Posted 21 June 2007 - 10:24 AM
ok i gotta see a photo of this thing
Posted 21 June 2007 - 11:25 AM
Posted 22 June 2007 - 05:57 AM
Southern Spars.
Have also altered the headsail sheeting to athwartships system.
like a cut snake! another fast 46 footer would be good to play funny buggers with
Posted 22 June 2007 - 06:02 AM
QT,
Also, does anyone have an update on the porgress of the new Flirt and Chutzpah? The Corby website shows a deck mould from a while back and the Hart website has nothing. I assume the RP is be a downhill favoured design, but what about the Corby?
dbo
Posted 23 June 2007 - 09:48 AM
Posted 24 June 2007 - 04:07 AM
new flirt sounds like a weapon! cant wait for that one.
Posted 24 June 2007 - 07:06 AM
Does it come complete with Hicko?
Posted 24 June 2007 - 08:37 AM
Posted 24 June 2007 - 10:06 AM
Getting back to Topic.----
Raw Nerve is now in Sydney. She only left for a short while to go up and clean everybodies clocks in the B-G race. Now she is back in Sydney with no indications that she is going back to Melbourne.
Anyone know what gives????
Cheers. Oldsailor
Posted 24 June 2007 - 10:26 AM
DBO,
I spoke to the owner of Flirt and the build progress is coming alog well.. The boat should by all acounts be a beast.
StatsI could give you more info on the boat but a donation to the "Save Giddy Up" fund would be required !
- -similar uphill sail area as TP 52
- - More running SA
- - Similar weight comparison
- - slightly shorter
Posted 24 June 2007 - 10:37 AM
Posted 24 June 2007 - 10:54 AM
Thanks for the summary Giddy. Sounds bloody quick and I'm sure it will rate OK too based on how CD puts his campaigns togather.
As for the status of Hicko as part of any package, he and CD seem to make a pretty good team with some great results last summer. You would have to think they'd be back together when the new boat is launched.
Posted 24 June 2007 - 11:17 AM
then don't take it off topic!
rafts... pfer!!
Posted 25 June 2007 - 06:11 AM
hmmmm what about skandia? havent heard about that for a while
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Posted 25 June 2007 - 10:51 AM
hmmmm what about skandia? havent heard about that for a while
Posted 25 June 2007 - 11:51 AM
I think Scandia has hidden herself away----sulking ---after her defeat, boat for boat , by a 30' catamaran in the Adelaide - Port Lincoln race.
Posted 25 June 2007 - 11:54 AM
Posted 25 June 2007 - 12:11 PM
Posted 25 June 2007 - 12:12 PM
Took this shot of Skamdia parked in the boat yard at Mornington a few weeks ago. Mode change # ? Deck seems a bit flatter than previously?? Dunno really, just guessing...
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Posted 25 June 2007 - 01:32 PM
Does CD have an unnatural fixation with the doll or is he just paranoid? I hear on the grapevine that he is keeping his cards pretty close to his chest just in case the doll get wind of his setup....
Posted 25 June 2007 - 01:38 PM
DBO,
I spoke to the owner of Flirt and the build progress is coming alog well.. The boat should by all acounts be a beast.
StatsI could give you more info on the boat but a donation to the "Save Giddy Up" fund would be required !
- -similar uphill sail area as TP 52
- - More running SA
- - Similar weight comparison
- - slightly shorter
Posted 26 June 2007 - 08:04 AM
Hey dude. Why do you just go back to wherever it is you came from.
Posted 26 June 2007 - 09:47 AM
Not a chance, Mate. This is SA.
Oldsailor.
Posted 26 June 2007 - 10:26 AM
Does CD have an unnatural fixation with the doll or is he just parranoid? I hear on the grapevine that he is keeping his cards pretty close to his chest just in case the doll get wind of his setup....
Posted 26 June 2007 - 11:04 AM
Posted 26 June 2007 - 11:10 AM
Posted 26 June 2007 - 11:16 AM
mate, u have no idea what you got your self into...
Posted 26 June 2007 - 11:41 AM
Posted 26 June 2007 - 11:42 AM
Posted 26 June 2007 - 11:47 AM
Posted 27 June 2007 - 05:01 AM
Posted 27 June 2007 - 05:41 AM
We stole it to get the measurements so they don't get a jump on us in hats. Ours will be a lot better.
Posted 27 June 2007 - 09:13 AM
Posted 27 June 2007 - 10:47 PM
this thread has become BORING.
Posted 28 June 2007 - 02:35 AM
oldsailor, Do I need to add anything or have you realised that this thread is dedicated to the IRC yachts of Vic.
kind regards
GU
P.s - take it to raft anarchy or start a new thread
Posted 28 June 2007 - 03:33 AM
GU.
I would---if there was a "Raft" Anarchy thread to go to.
What do I (or anyone) have to do to get a "Multihull Anarchy" forum up.???
Cheers. Oldsailor.
Posted 28 June 2007 - 03:58 AM
Took this shot of Skamdia parked in the boat yard at Mornington a few weeks ago. Mode change # ? Deck seems a bit flatter than previously?? Dunno really, just guessing...
Posted 30 June 2007 - 10:28 AM
Posted 30 June 2007 - 10:44 AM
so wassup with living doll anway? looks like theres a fair bit of work going on there.
Posted 30 June 2007 - 10:58 AM
Deck re-paint, lighter engine, removal of canting keel mechanism, bigger rig, forestay further forward I think is a reasonable summary.
Posted 02 July 2007 - 03:36 AM
Posted 02 July 2007 - 05:39 AM
Deck re-paint, lighter engine, removal of canting keel mechanism, bigger rig, forestay further forward I think is a reasonable summary.
Posted 02 July 2007 - 06:54 AM
Deck re-paint, lighter engine, removal of canting keel mechanism, bigger rig, forestay further forward I think is a reasonable summary.
Posted 02 July 2007 - 10:28 AM
So is this likely to be the beginning of the end for the canting keel?
Is it a case of rating hit out of kilter with speed/stability gains?
Posted 03 July 2007 - 12:31 PM
Posted 04 July 2007 - 01:13 AM
My understanding is that Cookson 50's aren't CBTF - they don't have the forward canard.Removal of canting keel mechanism. So much for CBTF.
As Mr Cessna said, "Simplicate,and add less weight".
Posted 04 July 2007 - 01:16 AM
Posted 04 July 2007 - 01:22 AM
it could be a farr 52 one design that has been modifyed but as far as i know its still undecided
Posted 04 July 2007 - 11:50 AM
My understanding is that Cookson 50's aren't CBTF - they don't have the forward canard.
Posted 05 July 2007 - 09:25 AM
Posted 06 July 2007 - 01:30 AM
Posted 06 July 2007 - 11:40 AM
With all these bigger boats arriving the local big boat talent pool of skill and relevant experience must be starting to get a bit shallow. Where do they all come from? Newbies on bigger boats can get hurt bad. Take care peoples.
Posted 06 July 2007 - 01:23 PM
Posted 07 July 2007 - 10:10 AM
Posted 08 July 2007 - 10:41 AM
Posted 08 July 2007 - 10:52 AM
So when does the TP get down to melbourne. Its good for melbourne and australia. We need more of these machines here. How old is this Tp 52
Posted 08 July 2007 - 11:45 AM
Posted 08 July 2007 - 11:54 AM
this lot will have no problem sorting the new boat out and should be a lot quicker than the gold boat
Posted 08 July 2007 - 12:06 PM
Posted 08 July 2007 - 12:08 PM
Posted 08 July 2007 - 12:08 PM
this lot will have no problem sorting the new boat out and should be a lot quicker than the gold boat
Posted 08 July 2007 - 12:11 PM
Posted 08 July 2007 - 12:18 PM
whats with there new proder??
Posted 08 July 2007 - 01:38 PM
whats with there new proder??
Posted 09 July 2007 - 02:34 AM
Posted 09 July 2007 - 04:45 AM
Posted 09 July 2007 - 05:17 AM
Posted 09 July 2007 - 05:30 AM
Great to see an influx of new boat into Melbourne. Long overdue.
I've just looked at the Range series results. What on earth is Executive Decision and how did it come to place 2nd IRC, 2nd AMS and 2nd VYC? Doesn't say a lot for the depth of the fleet summer just gone...
Posted 09 July 2007 - 05:48 AM
adams10 , and im pretty sure they won IRC AMS and VYC in Divvy 2
Posted 09 July 2007 - 08:53 AM
Living Doll to be trucked up to Hammo.
Cougar (TP52) out practicing all weekend, spoke with the helmsman Saturday evening and he seem reasonably animated, anyone know details how she went??
Bacardi sold, but staying at SYC. Ex owners waiting for the Georgia.
So we have,
XLR8 (with new rig and minor alterations)
Living Doll (lots of BIG changes)
Goldfinger (now with a carbon prodder)
New Shogun (just launched)
Cougar (just launched)
Georgia (arriving soon)
New Flirt (still to come)
New Chutzpah (still to come)
Posted 09 July 2007 - 11:32 AM
Posted 10 July 2007 - 12:30 AM
So that's why they're building a Bigger bar !Nice line up. Could you say that the racing in Melbourne in the 40-50 foot range is better than Sydney for once?? I don't think there are any new IRC orientated boats being built for Sydney owners (other than Yendys which was launched late last year).
Sure will be interesting to see how the Cougar boys go against the Quest and Wot Yot at Hamo. They have the newest generation boat (probably with the highest rating of the three Tps and it certainly won't be the gift rating they had in the previous beach ball) but less big boat experience than the Sydney based boys.
Another big question is whether there be enough room at the SYC bar for all the big boat owners egos come summer? Someone's sure get to hurt! Ouch.
Posted 10 July 2007 - 01:46 AM
Posted 10 July 2007 - 05:08 AM
Posted 10 July 2007 - 05:27 AM
or atleast navigation marks that accurately show the extent of the entrance sandbar
Posted 10 July 2007 - 07:53 AM
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