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#201 Flatbag

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Posted 10 July 2007 - 11:41 AM

This afternoon :blink:

What were those green thingies I saw on Saturday?



Green thingies? Probably VB cans Rossco :P
Nah, they were back in the yard having their lights worked on today. Due back in place this afternoon apparently.

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Posted 10 July 2007 - 12:00 PM

Nice save ;)

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Posted 12 July 2007 - 04:33 AM

Since theres quite a bit of movement in the Melbourne market, maybe someone would be interested in this.

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Posted 12 July 2007 - 10:46 PM

Surely if your selling a boat like that you can afford to....





BUY AN AD.








RRR.

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Posted 12 July 2007 - 11:03 PM

I know this is 'Melbourne Big Boat Fleet' and not 'Sydney Big Boat Fleet', but has anybody heard about a new TP52 in Sydney?

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Posted 13 July 2007 - 01:18 AM

Nice line up. Could you say that the racing in Melbourne in the 40-50 foot range is better than Sydney for once?? I don't think there are any new IRC orientated boats being built for Sydney owners (other than Yendys which was launched late last year).

Sure will be interesting to see how the Cougar boys go against the Quest and Wot Yot at Hamo. They have the newest generation boat (probably with the highest rating of the three Tps and it certainly won't be the gift rating they had in the previous beach ball) but less big boat experience than the Sydney based boys.

Another big question is whether there be enough room at the SYC bar for all the big boat owners egos come summer? Someone's sure get to hurt! Ouch.

Do u think the resurgence is due to the number of interclub events we now have in Vic, eg ORCV winterseries, Range series, audi top of the bay, lipton cup, dockland invitational and skandia week. Seem to spend a lot more time away from local club racing competing in a higher standard.

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Posted 13 July 2007 - 01:41 AM

certainly looks like it will be a good season coming up.

plenty on and no need to travel to far.

New Cougar is a great looking ride....needs a tidy up but.

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Posted 13 July 2007 - 02:12 AM

I know this is 'Melbourne Big Boat Fleet' and not 'Sydney Big Boat Fleet', but has anybody heard about a new TP52 in Sydney?


do you mean the one that turned up a couple of months ago and now called Quest, or another new one?

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Posted 13 July 2007 - 02:28 AM

could be Quest. how old is Quest?
i've only just heard about a new TP52 in Sydney.

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Posted 13 July 2007 - 03:22 AM

Building on what giddy said, how's this for a potential line up for Skandia Geelong Week.

Likely Boats include -
Cougar (TP52)
Living Doll (Cookson 50 - Fixed Keel)
XLR8 (RP46)
Secret Mens (RP46)
Flirt (new Corby 49)
Limit (previous Corby 49)
QR (Cookson 50 canter with canard)
Beau Geste (RP45)
Chutpah (new RP40)
Shogun (new Rogers 46)
Dekadence (DK46)
New Geelong DK46 (Don't know what its called though)
Previous Shogun/now SA boat (DK46)
Georgia (Farr53)
Wild Oats (RP66)

Now, if only the Sydney boat could embrace the event, we could add -
Quest (TP52)
Wot Yot (TP52)
Yendys (RP55)
Wild Joe (RP60)

Even without the Sydney boats, the racing would have to be sensational. Their presence would be icing on the cake. Is anyone in G'town trying to get these boats down here??

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Posted 13 July 2007 - 03:28 AM

Building on what giddy said, how's this for a potential line up for Skandia Geelong Week.

Likely Boats include -
Cougar (TP52)
Living Doll (Cookson 50 - Fixed Keel)
XLR8 (RP46)
Secret Mens (RP46)
Flirt (new Corby 49)
Limit (previous Corby 49)
QR (Cookson 50 canter with canard)
Beau Geste (RP45)
Chutpah (new RP40)
Shogun (new Rogers 46)
Dekadence (DK46)
New Geelong DK46 (Don't know what its called though) Zephyra/ eXtasea
Previous Shogun/now SA boat (DK46) Exile
Georgia (Farr53)
Wild Oats (RP66)
Veloce (New Elliott 44)????

Now, if only the Sydney boat could embrace the event, we could add -
Quest (TP52)
Wot Yot (TP52)
Yendys (RP55)
Wild Joe (RP60)

Even without the Sydney boats, the racing would have to be sensational. Their presence would be icing on the cake. Is anyone in G'town trying to get these boats down here?? yes...an Invite goes out to all I think



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Posted 14 July 2007 - 04:27 AM

could be Quest. how old is Quest?
i've only just heard about a new TP52 in Sydney.


Quest is the ex-Bright Star, launched '04 i think. Arrived in Syd in April/May.

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Posted 14 July 2007 - 08:03 AM

Zephyra being loaded in long beach enroute to Geelong

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Posted 15 July 2007 - 05:49 AM

hey will nsee how all these boats hold up in the first race across bass straight hope u have all got good drivers for backs of waves these boat are getting lighter rooster nuts rodgers 46

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Posted 15 July 2007 - 06:50 AM

hey will nsee how all these boats hold up in the first race across bass straight hope u have all got good drivers for backs of waves these boat are getting lighter rooster nuts rodgers 46



well fuck me.....it surfaces!
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Posted 17 July 2007 - 04:15 PM

could be Quest. how old is Quest?
i've only just heard about a new TP52 in Sydney.



Well....TP madness in OZ.

1 - Wot Yot - Yassou
2 - Quest - Bright Star
3 - Cougar 2- Rush


4. So which TP from the transpac race is Syd Fisher buying ???
Trader?.....Morning Light, Samba pa ti? or Lucky ?

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Posted 18 July 2007 - 07:11 AM

bump

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Posted 18 July 2007 - 08:16 AM

runnin 2 threads giddy

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Posted 18 July 2007 - 09:20 AM

So who's doing what race at the end of the year??

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Posted 18 July 2007 - 10:29 AM

So who's doing what race at the end of the year??




Zephyra is looking to do Melb-East Coast Hobart....TBC

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Posted 18 July 2007 - 12:02 PM

Well....TP madness in OZ.

1 - Wot Yot - Yassou
2 - Quest - Bright Star
3 - Cougar 2- Rush
4. So which TP from the transpac race is Syd Fisher buying ???
Trader?.....Morning Light, Samba pa ti? or Lucky ?

Latest news is Syd is buying Pegasus racing TP52

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Posted 18 July 2007 - 12:05 PM

well 38 racing should be interesting over the next season one of the top victorian boats has been sold, not sure what challenge is going to do.. the last 38 was 3min behind.. on sunday

Chutzpah sold to Brighton, Challenge will be doing Syd - Hobart then 38 nats in Geelong.

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Posted 18 July 2007 - 01:50 PM

Latest news is Syd is buying Pegasus racing TP52



that sir would be Morning light....Wilmot connection?

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Posted 18 July 2007 - 05:01 PM

The DK46 will be a great fast addition to your fleet.

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Posted 19 July 2007 - 04:16 AM

Hobart plans.

Sydney 38.

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Posted 19 July 2007 - 04:29 AM

Hobart plans.

Sydney 38.

:ph34r:


That's a big boat for you TBG - the 30'er getting a bit small? Which S38?

Will you and Sm still be around at SailMelbourne time?

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Posted 20 July 2007 - 03:41 AM

Hey Giddy Up,

Where did you get the info regarding a new Veloce - Elliott 44? Is that why Blue is sooooo busy?

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Posted 20 July 2007 - 03:52 AM

That's a big boat for you TBG - the 30'er getting a bit small? Which S38?

Will you and Sm still be around at SailMelbourne time?



PM coming your way.

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Posted 20 July 2007 - 09:39 AM

Hey Giddy Up,

Where did you get the info regarding a new Veloce - Elliott 44? Is that why Blue is sooooo busy?

No being built in China.

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Posted 28 July 2007 - 03:16 PM

Bump

Whats going on Eastern States folks?

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Posted 29 July 2007 - 02:11 AM

Bump

Whats going on Eastern States folks?


geelong boys doing well in sydney goldcoast woohoo

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Posted 29 July 2007 - 02:41 AM

All I know is that Nick Bartels has brought Gomez (the Sydney 47CR), the new Chutzpah apparently will be ready is 6-8 weeks, the new Flirt is on track for November launch (according to Corby's website the hulls have been joined), the Dolly may not make it up North and another Farr 52 (in addition to the Farr 52 already here and Farr 53 on its way) may soon be on its way for a SYC owner.

Is there any truth to the rumour that Mr Coombs has ordered the SYC marina to be dredged for a new boat??

Over and Out.

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Posted 31 July 2007 - 04:49 AM

Dolly definitely going north. On the truck today, rig arrived yesterday- cutting it fine?

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Posted 31 July 2007 - 06:29 AM

Spoke with the Shogun boys at Southport and they were, apart from being very pissed, were extremely happy with the boat and it's first major hit out. The bar talk had her doing 28 knots.

Parked for an hour at Coffs which lost them the race on IRC.

Very nice bit of Thailand kit. Even the Quantum sails look the shit.

They managed to beat Quest (TP52) and Brindabella across the line.

Happy chappies indeed.

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Posted 31 July 2007 - 08:41 AM

Is there any truth to the rumour that Mr Coombs has ordered the SYC marina to be dredged for a new boat??


No.

The marina and entrance need dredging, full stop.

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Posted 01 August 2007 - 02:34 AM

No.

The marina and entrance need dredging, full stop.


Agree with that statement Don. Had a couple of nasty bumps in the last few months and heard about plenty more.
How deep does it need to be with the influx of more and more big boats to SYC?

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Posted 01 August 2007 - 05:41 AM

i would say at least 3.7 to allow for it to silt up at bit, wots the tp52 draw 3.2?

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Posted 09 August 2007 - 01:33 AM

Bump?

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Posted 09 August 2007 - 01:51 AM

Bump?

New Geelong DK46 Zephrys/Extasea at Savos this week for reassembly,waiting for less wind to drop in the rig

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Posted 09 August 2007 - 02:28 AM

is dekadence back in melbourne

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Posted 09 August 2007 - 03:31 AM

is dekadence back in melbourne


Not at SYC as of yesterday. It must be reaching back :(

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Posted 09 August 2007 - 04:05 AM

very good.

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Posted 09 August 2007 - 09:28 AM

New Geelong DK46 Zephrys/Extasea at Savos this week for reassembly,waiting for less wind to drop in the rig



Extasea ( DK 46) is now ready to splash. rig went in yesterday and final prep happened today. Drop in water Friday morning and start testing Systems and rig tune up happens Saturday...good times ahead in the Winnerbago!
first hit out will be Hastings.

Dekadence was also scheduled to be in the keel pit behind us but to my knowledge is still in Port Welshpool. maybe waiting for a S/Easterly?


Hullman - you heading north?

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Posted 09 August 2007 - 10:26 PM

Extasea ( DK 46) is now ready to splash. rig went in yesterday and final prep happened today. Drop in water Friday morning and start testing Systems and rig tune up happens Saturday...good times ahead in the Winnerbago!
first hit out will be Hastings.

Dekadence was also scheduled to be in the keel pit behind us but to my knowledge is still in Port Welshpool. maybe waiting for a S/Easterly?
Hullman - you heading north?

Will be at Hammo thursday a.m. expecting a big week, on and off the water, then 10 days RNR with the boss

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Posted 10 August 2007 - 04:09 AM

Pickles, I would assume the TP would be a hell of alot quicker than the "Dirty Sanchez", & Living Doll & the new Flirt and the rest of the melb fleet ;)


Hey dude, if the rating aint as high as a TP52 they won't have to be as fast. I see the Dolly's new rating is 1.304 so the TP has to give her shitloads of time. And by the way, what the "f" are the gold boat doing with a bopwsprit. Don't you have to have a fast boat before you istall one of these??

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Posted 10 August 2007 - 05:46 AM

And by the way, what the "f" are the gold boat doing with a bopwsprit. Don't you have to have a fast boat before you istall one of these??



:lol: classic

Edited by wobble, 10 August 2007 - 05:47 AM.


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Posted 10 August 2007 - 06:49 AM

:lol: classic


Maybe the Gold boat isn't always as slow as you think

http://202.139.226.1...;race=IRCA3.HTM

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Posted 12 August 2007 - 06:23 AM

Saw Kookaburra in its pen yesterday, I thought it was going to Hammo???

Edited by Spiderman Downunder, 12 August 2007 - 07:28 AM.


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Posted 12 August 2007 - 08:51 AM

Saw Kookaburra in its pen yesterday, I thought it was going to Hammo???




apparently it broke the back of 2 trucks whilst trying to load it on :rolleyes:. :blink:

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Posted 25 August 2007 - 11:19 PM

bump

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Posted 27 August 2007 - 11:55 AM

not long til summer now. wooo

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Posted 27 August 2007 - 11:58 AM

today's weather proved that

Woo Hoo !!

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Posted 28 August 2007 - 04:55 AM

Howdy Vic dudes, howd everyone go at Hammo? Anything good to report?
What happenned to XLR8? didn't seemup to the usual standard
Is the Dolll happy with the mods?, The guys on Georgia are probably used to a fairly different style of boat- obviously feeling their way a bit, but did they have fun on their new one anyway?
Is HSMB OK? Whos fixing it?
QT why didn't Shogun sail, or was it not there or something

didn't get there this year so any goss is good goss
cheers all
t

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Posted 28 August 2007 - 05:21 AM

Howdy Vic dudes, howd everyone go at Hammo? Anything good to report?
What happenned to XLR8? didn't seemup to the usual standard
Is the Dolll happy with the mods?, The guys on Georgia are probably used to a fairly different style of boat- obviously feeling their way a bit, but did they have fun on their new one anyway?
Is HSMB OK? Whos fixing it?
QT why didn't Shogun sail, or was it not there or something

didn't get there this year so any goss is good goss
cheers all
t


XLR8 is past its UBD now, even with Savvo driving. Wanna buy it. See Dorro...
Georgia guys feeling their way? Nah, Willo, Anus and the ex Bacardi mob would be happy on any boat with a big fridge :P
HSMB definitely not OK and the story is Harts may do the repairs in Mornington.
Shogun, the new Rogers 46 one, had rig damage early on and pulled the pin.
Living Hell also just a tad off the boil after the mods- perhaps needs a bit more time to get it back on pace. Maybe the Q boat was just sailed a bit better this time?

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Posted 28 August 2007 - 05:38 AM

Howdy Vic dudes, howd everyone go at Hammo? Anything good to report?
What happenned to XLR8? didn't seemup to the usual standard
Is the Dolll happy with the mods?, The guys on Georgia are probably used to a fairly different style of boat- obviously feeling their way a bit, but did they have fun on their new one anyway?
Is HSMB OK? Whos fixing it?
QT why didn't Shogun sail, or was it not there or something

didn't get there this year so any goss is good goss
cheers all
t

XLR8 is a little bit dated, seemed to fall into "rate low, go slow" trap.
HSMB is a mess, best to write it off as per XLR8 reults.
Doll seemed good in light conditions
Shogun had some slight damage, there was a recall on all Rogers masts and deemed it unwise to continue
Georgia struggled but those guys always have a good time. Loved them in Bacardi (wooden ship ,iron men)
Laurelle went better

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Posted 28 August 2007 - 06:38 AM

Thanks Flat, DB, that was quick

Hey hows the interest in the eastern/ westcoaster? Is it going to eat into the Vic Syd/Hob fleet or will it be just Yoko and the others like usual?
What's the general feeling about it all?

t

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Posted 28 August 2007 - 08:06 AM

Thanks Flat, DB, that was quick

Hey hows the interest in the eastern/ westcoaster? Is it going to eat into the Vic Syd/Hob fleet or will it be just Yoko and the others like usual?
What's the general feeling about it all?

t



Transit,
exstract from Melbourne to Hobart site

"At 21st August 2007, there are 53 boats in total, with 16 boats from Tasmania and 1 from South Australia, who already have said that they're likely starters for the December races.

The Victorian boats are a bit slower off the mark but many of those are away at Hammo at the moment and we expect significantly more boat-owners to register their interest once Hammo is out of the way."



It's going to be a great race.

"

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Posted 28 August 2007 - 08:13 AM

It's going to be a great race.

"


Excellent, good to see

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Posted 28 August 2007 - 09:20 AM

looking at the entries for the melb-hobart whats the open 60 "team mornington" like? is it the old aapt?

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Posted 28 August 2007 - 12:28 PM

looking at the entries for the melb-hobart whats the open 60 "team mornington" like? is it the old aapt?



yep

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Posted 29 August 2007 - 10:06 AM

Latest that I know is that the new Chutpah about 6 weeks from "splash" and the new Flirt has just come out of the hull mould with deck due on in next few weeks and launch still around December. Both look very fast and sexy apparently.

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Posted 30 August 2007 - 01:47 AM

yep


Big step up for Matt from the old Cookson 40 No Beer
Team M? Wonder who else is in the "team"?

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Posted 30 August 2007 - 02:38 AM

Big step up for Matt from the old Cookson 40 No Beer
Team M? Wonder who else is in the "team"?


Maybe Warro ?

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Posted 30 August 2007 - 04:46 AM

Maybe Warro ?



Yeah, right :P :P :P

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Posted 30 August 2007 - 05:30 AM

Yeah, right :P :P :P


Well he hasn't been seen or heard of for quite a while. Maybe this is his big re-entry onto the sailing scene.

Edited by Flippin Out, 30 August 2007 - 05:30 AM.


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Posted 30 August 2007 - 07:29 AM

where's wharro

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Posted 31 August 2007 - 01:03 AM

Well he hasn't been seen or heard of for quite a while. Maybe this is his big re-entry onto the sailing scene.


Is the big blue n white pig still in the MYC yard? Rare for Wharro to miss the northern race circuit, Hamo etc. Wassup?

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Posted 01 September 2007 - 08:31 AM

bump

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Posted 03 September 2007 - 01:57 AM

There was movement at the station for the word had passed around...

Another new Syd 36CR (#3 at the club) in the SYC yard this weekend and an Archie 35 also on its way to replace a yellow wheeled Syd 38 heading north.

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Posted 03 September 2007 - 04:17 AM

Is the big blue n white pig still in the MYC yard? Rare for Wharro to miss the northern race circuit, Hamo etc. Wassup?


Saw Skandia still in the MYC Sunday off her keel and with the rig out and looking a little sad. Doesn't look like there's been any progress to having her back in the drink.

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Posted 03 September 2007 - 06:21 AM

Saw Skandia still in the MYC Sunday off her keel and with the rig out and looking a little sad. Doesn't look like there's been any progress to having her back in the drink.

Mex


Don Jones did tell me earlier in the year that some major works were scheduled " to keep the boat competitive".
As you say Mex, not much seems to be happening, at least not much that can be externally observed. Is it premature for us Anarchy doomsayers to start talking about silk purses and sows ears?

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Posted 03 September 2007 - 06:38 AM

Don Jones did tell me earlier in the year that some major works were scheduled " to keep the boat competitive".
As you say Mex, not much seems to be happening, at least not much that can be externally observed. Is it premature for us Anarchy doomsayers to start talking about silk purses and sows ears?


That's not what I heard. See post number 169...

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Posted 04 September 2007 - 07:20 AM

is shogun back in melbourne?

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Posted 04 September 2007 - 07:21 AM

is shogun back in melbourne?


not yet. be a few weeks.

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Posted 04 September 2007 - 09:11 AM

i find it interesting how so much is going on, yet everyone is too scared to talk about it..


cmon, what scarry stuff's going on?

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Posted 04 September 2007 - 11:24 AM

i find it interesting how so much is going on, yet everyone is too scared to talk about it..

yeah anarchy :unsure:



well spit it out random...what's going on??

How's the new "got Balls" coming along and what will it rate??

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Posted 04 September 2007 - 12:54 PM

Don Jones did tell me earlier in the year that some major works were scheduled " to keep the boat competitive".
As you say Mex, not much seems to be happening, at least not much that can be externally observed. Is it premature for us Anarchy doomsayers to start talking about silk purses and sows ears?


back in the water in 5 weeks or so

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Posted 06 September 2007 - 12:14 PM

from what i have seen today some of these boats coming :|

wow :D :blink:


am I missing a link or something random?
what boats?

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Posted 07 September 2007 - 04:12 AM

Do you mean your avatar? Sorry, bit pissed last nite- typing with one eye covered

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Posted 09 September 2007 - 02:45 AM

Extasea ( DK 46) is now ready to splash. rig went in yesterday and final prep happened today. Drop in water Friday morning and start testing Systems and rig tune up happens Saturday...good times ahead in the Winnerbago!
first hit out will be Hastings.

Dekadence was also scheduled to be in the keel pit behind us but to my knowledge is still in Port Welshpool. maybe waiting for a S/Easterly?
Hullman - you heading north?


I take it everybody was happy with the first hit out after looking at the results 1st IRC & PHS ?

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Posted 09 September 2007 - 05:31 AM

I take it everybody was happy with the first hit out after looking at the results 1st IRC & PHS ?


very happy mate. It's just the first race though....some very pissed people on the trip home. Good times

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Posted 09 September 2007 - 08:18 AM

As for skandia, all I've heard that they did was stop the fittings from leaking threw the deck and replace some of the structural parts of the canting keel slot

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Posted 10 September 2007 - 02:24 AM

I take it everybody was happy with the first hit out after looking at the results 1st IRC & PHS ?


Against what, FFS?

Coombsy's De Cay is near ready to splash again after being cleaned up and stripped of all the Osaka 2 handed shit.

Will she stay or will she go?

And if she stays, will she go - like she used to? :o

Anus and Willo's ex NZ Farr 53 Georgia arrived back from Hammo over the weekend too... nice piece of kit there for the Bus Boys.

The influx of mega-weapons continues at Royal Sandringham...

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Posted 10 September 2007 - 09:12 AM

Against what, FFS?

Coombsy's De Cay is near ready to splash again after being cleaned up and stripped of all the Osaka 2 handed shit.

Will she stay or will she go?

And if she stays, will she go - like she used to? :o

Anus and Willo's ex NZ Farr 53 Georgia arrived back from Hammo over the weekend too... nice piece of kit there for the Bus Boys.

The influx of mega-weapons continues at Royal Sandringham...



Hey Fart bag...give credit where credit is due. ...it was only our 3rd time on the boat.

against who? - TP 52, Sticky finger, Veloce and don't forget lou's boys know how to sail...noted that there a lot of top IRC boats not competing at the moment but we were only using our training sails FFS ! :rolleyes:

Edited by Giddy Up, 10 September 2007 - 09:14 AM.


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Posted 10 September 2007 - 09:26 AM

Hey Fart bag...give credit where credit is due. ...it was only our 3rd time on the boat.

against who? - TP 52, Sticky finger, Veloce and don't forget lou's boys know how to sail...noted that there a lot of top IRC boats not competing at the moment but we were only using our training sails FFS ! :rolleyes:



What he said !

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Posted 10 September 2007 - 09:51 AM

What he said !




YEAH....WHAT HE SAID! :D

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Posted 10 September 2007 - 11:54 AM

Hey Fart bag...give credit where credit is due. ...it was only our 3rd time on the boat.

against who? - TP 52, Sticky finger, Veloce and don't forget lou's boys know how to sail...noted that there a lot of top IRC boats not competing at the moment but we were only using our training sails FFS ! :rolleyes:



Credit where its due gladly Giddy but you were on a one way track in ideal conditions for your boat. You were on probably the only boat in the fleet actually designed with IRC in mind. A win on Performance h'cap in your first race where your tcf is no more than a guess on the part of the ORCV handicapper - wow! Remember, Laurelle did the same thing in her first offshore race with ORCV and surprise surprise, she was using delivery sails too! What does that tell you about performance handicapping?
Not to denigrate your performance too much, well done in the new boat and I am sure you will continue to do well but put it in perspective FFS :blink:

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Posted 10 September 2007 - 10:56 PM

Agreed about PHD but it is still a win, you can only beat the boats that were there, so speculation about how it would go against any other boats is absolute BS. So winning by a big margin over some pretty reasonable performers on IRC in a 6 hour race is OK, the conditions were good for the DK and it should have won and guess what it did!! So I think that constitutes a good result. The PHD handicap was based on Shogun and Dekadence unlike Laurelle which did not have a performance history, also Laurelle was way off the pace on IRC in her first race. So once again a comparison is a bit silly and puerile.
Well done to eXtasea and particularly Bucky, one of the nice guys in the sport.

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Posted 10 September 2007 - 11:07 PM

thanks DB. alot of work still needs to happen for eccy to get up to speed. Time on the boat is the main ingreediant.

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Posted 11 September 2007 - 01:37 AM

Agreed about PHD but it is still a win, you can only beat the boats that were there, so speculation about how it would go against any other boats is absolute BS. So winning by a big margin over some pretty reasonable performers on IRC in a 6 hour race is OK, the conditions were good for the DK and it should have won and guess what it did!! So I think that constitutes a good result. The PHD handicap was based on Shogun and Dekadence unlike Laurelle which did not have a performance history, also Laurelle was way off the pace on IRC in her first race. So once again a comparison is a bit silly and puerile.
Well done to eXtasea and particularly Bucky, one of the nice guys in the sport.


Absolutely a win is a win and they can enjoy the pickle dish as much as they will the hard fought ones.

The point of the comparison with Laurelle is that both boats won their first ORCV offshore race with delivery sails. You would have to assume that the handicapper didn't know the boats would race with delivery sails and didn't determine the handicaps on that basis. That both boats won under such circumstances is, therefore, a valid comparison and indicates a gift handicap; historically a problem with new boats coming into the ORCV PHD fleet.

Or are you telling me the performance handicap is right and the boat won't actually go any faster with exotic race sails? :o

Agree re Bucky - cool dude! Is he still a fleet owner or has Ex-Extasea moved on?

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Posted 11 September 2007 - 02:00 AM

Absolutely a win is a win and they can enjoy the pickle dish as much as they will the hard fought ones.

The point of the comparison with Laurelle is that both boats won their first ORCV offshore race with delivery sails. You would have to assume that the handicapper didn't know the boats would race with delivery sails and didn't determine the handicaps on that basis. That both boats won under such circumstances is, therefore, a valid comparison and indicates a gift handicap; historically a problem with new boats coming into the ORCV PHD fleet.

Or are you telling me the performance handicap is right and the boat won't actually go any faster with exotic race sails? :o

Agree re Bucky - cool dude! Is he still a fleet owner or has Ex-Extasea moved on?

Shogun and Dekadence were around 1065-1080 during their time so handicapper gave XTC 1070, hardly a "gift" as form was on the board unlike Laurelle.
Bucky still a fleet owner.
Can't believe I am having a discussion about the merits of PHD (shudder). Must get out more!!

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Posted 11 September 2007 - 06:34 AM

so Flat bag, what boat did you race on to Flinders?

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Posted 12 September 2007 - 10:56 PM

Extasea won on IRC they sailed the best race on the day

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Posted 12 September 2007 - 11:57 PM

Extasea won on IRC they sailed the best race on the day


To quote Mr Wolf from Pulp Fiction....Attached File  harvey_keitel.jpg   10.8K   10 downloads

"Lets not go sucking each others dicks just yet"

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Posted 13 September 2007 - 09:08 AM

You crack me up Flat bag...seriously you are a funny guy. I think I know who Tiny Elf is and trust me I wouldn't want so condone the thought of him having his dick out !


so flats...what boat are you sailing on??

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Posted 13 September 2007 - 09:29 AM

Give up, he won't tell you ;)

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Posted 13 September 2007 - 10:31 AM

You crack me up Flat bag...seriously you are a funny guy. I think I know who Tiny Elf is and trust me I wouldn't want so condone the thought of him having his dick out !
so flats...what boat are you sailing on??


I heard a whisper he's sailing on S.S. Feathersword.

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Posted 13 September 2007 - 11:14 AM

I heard a whisper he's sailing on S.S. Feathersword.


No, he's tactician on Ingara.

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Posted 13 September 2007 - 11:46 AM

I heard a whisper he's sailing on S.S. Feathersword.


That's Gold !...FUNNY SHIT

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Posted 13 September 2007 - 11:51 AM

Damn, my secret's out. I confess, I really am the evil black Wiggle :ph34r:

Well, I do have a particular fondness for yummy mummies!




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