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#1 Editor

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 03:17 AM

What Is It?

We got you this time, you bastards! Why the anger, you ask? Because every time we do one of these contests, you smart asses get it right within minutes. Let's see how smart you are this time. Again, first guess with the correct who, what and where gets the prize, this time brought to you by our friends at The Sailing Pro Shop. As we like to say, have fun.

04/11/07

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#2 F15 AUS

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 03:19 AM

Looks like a Yamaha.

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 03:21 AM

It's a WIP near complete!

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 03:26 AM

i'd say maybe one of the new sydney boats? the 44 or what ever they are calling it... and that is made in aus. [or at least i think it is... :rolleyes: ]

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 03:28 AM

The bastard love child of a Hunter and a Columbia 30.

Huntumiba 30?

#6 widget

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 03:35 AM

The wheel looks like they stole it from this.

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 03:36 AM

ok, whats with the mini wheel? Is Oday back in business?

#8 shandy

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 03:38 AM

A Mcgregor 32 without an outboard on the back

#9 shampoo effect

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 03:43 AM

Macgregor 32, to compete with the growing melges 32 fleet

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 03:48 AM

The bastard love child of a Hunter and a Columbia 30.

Huntumiba 30?


good on ya!
First impression was in fact a Hunter Blend!

Shall we name it a "Cunter"...

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 03:50 AM

Equipped with too small of a helm.

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 03:53 AM

Annapolis 30? No wonder they haven't said much!

#13 Nelsonsblood

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 03:57 AM

The new Hunter TP52?

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 03:59 AM

got to be the mac36

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 04:11 AM

Shall we name it a "Cunter"...

Right on cue... :D

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 04:12 AM

Reminds me of my second boat.. a Hunter 19, which I completely hated as soon as I started crewing on a fleet of J/24s... Happy to say I don't have it any more..

So... probably a 24-26' boat.. shoal draft or centerboard, sprit (!)... looks sooo much like an O'Day 280... but that retarded wheel on a toy binnacle.. I give up.. It's a boat that will make someone happy, until they drive a J/24...

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 04:14 AM

columbia 30 cruising version being built in beautiful Santa Ana

#18 Ross

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 04:42 AM

columbia 40

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 04:58 AM

Looks like a Farr 395-inspired house and a beneteau hull. Boo! Way to bring the fat chick to the party!

#20 Kent H

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 05:00 AM

Ok you got me. The boat looks like a smaller version of the new Elan 410 by Humphreys Design. Andrews is toying with some smaller designs. but...

New Sydney 32 CR. Reusing the Sydney 32 OD hull and Cabin to create a "New Boat"

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 05:31 AM

Columbia 30
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Posted 11 April 2007 - 05:42 AM

I dunno, but it looks slow.
Too, where are the side-decks?

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 05:42 AM

It looks most like the Catalina 309 or 310.

#24 Steve Landeau

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 05:44 AM

The cruising version of an FT10. :rolleyes:

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 05:46 AM

FT10 CR
Thats wierd, I was going to post the same thing at the same time

#26 34 South

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 05:55 AM

Fugly 36, with the optional power steering fitted

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 07:07 AM

i'd say maybe one of the new sydney boats? the 44 or what ever they are calling it... and that is made in aus. [or at least i think it is... :rolleyes: ]


A Sydney boat? Not with that tiny wheel it aint.

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 07:32 AM

Mac 35R.
Mac Gregors first attempt to an IRC optimised offshore racer.
Rumors that Mac and Hunter teams collaborated closely in creating this racing machine.
Strong Hunter influence on stern design and inboard engine installation as Mac design
team had no experience in this area other than outboards.
Radical move towards providing stability with water ballast only.

#29 Gorn FRANTIC!!

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 07:32 AM

i'd say maybe one of the new sydney boats? the 44 or what ever they are calling it... and that is made in aus. [or at least i think it is... :rolleyes: ]

Sydney Yachts arent the prettiest boats getting round but they have never produced anything that ugly

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 08:06 AM

Its'bad :P

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 08:11 AM

Sydney Yachts arent the prettiest boats getting round but they have never produced anything that ugly


Quite right... the Sydney 32 was their worst effort and it's a beauty compared to this thing... check out the deck coaming around the cockpit. And a teak bump stip. Ugly.

But wait... I think it's a sportboat! It has a bowsprit!

Catalina anyone?

#32 Gorn FRANTIC!!

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 08:12 AM

hmmmmmmmmmm...previous comments aside is it a Sydney 32/36 Cruiser version??

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 08:21 AM

It's small. Notice the narrow side decks, small winches and wheel. Only 3 stanchions so probably no more than about 30'.

Sprit so probably not a Catalina (never made one before?)
Not an enormouse ass, so not a Hunter
But something about it says "American boat", not European
small factory - no stacks of hulls in background... I'm out of ideas

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 09:12 AM

Kevin Dibley K280 by Kiwi boat works. www.kiwiboatworks.com
Being build in China

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 10:34 AM

Dibley K280 by kiwi boatworks but built in Colorado

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 10:41 AM

I would like to say, that all my friends (you all) should buy one of these boats please. When you do, tell them H20 sent you. That way I will get my 500 bucks each per the incentive program. Please buy today.

Actually I kinda like this boat. Ya somewhat catahuntalumbia, wheels an option I wouldnt choose, rub rail very catalina, huntery windows, too much freeboard, not enough side deck BUT really not bad overall. Should be a very roomy 28er. I like it.
If she was priced right I could see her being a fine club racer/cruiser. Definately a move in the proper direction. Could fit a 44" wheel I suppose but kinda silly.
But how much? How heavy? Mast material?

remember, H20 sent you.

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 10:55 AM

Dibley K280 by kiwi boatworks but built in Colorado


Its a trailer sailer.Beam 8', lifting keel with a bulb, outboard.

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 11:28 AM

Hell

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 11:34 AM

Its not in the Southern Hemisphere thats for sure.

#40 USA-7

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 11:38 AM

What Is It?
...

04/11/07


Its boxy and slab sided. I also am reminded of O'Day boats of the 70's.

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 11:40 AM

Looks like some sort of Catalina - has that Butler look

Maybe Their answer to the 105 with that sprit?

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 11:58 AM

40' container boat
fits right in for ocean transport in a box

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 12:12 PM

It is the latest offering from NWIHWIBCITB







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Posted 11 April 2007 - 12:13 PM

It's boring!!

Actually it looks a lot like an old Noelex 30 shape wise

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 12:19 PM

Dibley K280 by kiwi boatworks but built in Colorado


Definitely right.

Kiwi Boatworks k280c as designed by Kevin Dibley.

Mmm...Colorado or china?
They think they can offer it with trailer for 40.000???
That smells like China.

But since I haven't got a clue where in china, lets say Elizabeth, Colorado.

Ow, and they used some input from a trailer sailer forum with lots af Mac owners...
But it isn't ugly, is it?

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 12:29 PM

A Mcgregor 32 without an outboard on the back


It has a 502 blown with an 8-71. It's around 750HP.

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 12:29 PM

Well, it's not your father's Oldsmobile

It's ugly but it sure is slow.

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 12:29 PM

Hunter's best attempt to compete with the Bene 10.
Ray

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 12:51 PM

It's the new Rubrail 37. The design is a virtual "hodgepodge" of suggestions from the readers of Practical Sailor.

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 01:04 PM

I'm not telling until I found out....


What's it rate?

#51 Zaney

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 01:10 PM

Im guessing a new C&C 27 something....
Sorry C&C that thing is as ugly as the rest of your new boats...

#52 BIAM

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 01:12 PM

The cruising version of an FT10. :rolleyes:

the missing rudder is the give-away......

does it come with hiptrader dishrags?

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 01:33 PM

She'll look much better once you bolt the racks on

#54 Spuds

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 01:45 PM

It is the cruising version of the Flying Tiger... The "Crouching Dragon".

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 01:50 PM

SHIT!!!!

I never knew so many Navel Architechs read the front page and than make a comment. Whew....I wish I could just look at a boat from a country mile and tell how slow it is. Especially since you can't see the bottom, never mind the fact it doesn't have it's keel, rudder, or even it's rig. All you genius's will have to inform us idiots how you do it.

I like the open transom. The sprit looks cool. Not too sure about getting to bow (but since I have never seen the bow of a boat in years, really who cares hahha). I hate the wheel but I hate 99.9% of ALL wheels on boats. The hand rails, cabin top and shape say cruiser. No runners (or no runner winches).

Does look a lot like Columbia though. Not a Bene or Catalina, Hunter has no sprit boats. I'll go w/40' Columbia.

#56 AWKIII

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 02:03 PM

Actually Dead Money is Dead Right.

It is a trailerable cruiser. It is less than 30 feet. And you cannot see the hull or rig. Hull is slippery and its a Chris Mitchell rig.

#57 NyJboat

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 02:04 PM

The wheel looks like they stole it from this.


I like this one better ive never seen one of these go into 5th Mode before :lol:

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 02:08 PM

K-Mart 33

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 02:14 PM

No runners (or no runner winches).

No backstay at all?

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 02:18 PM

It is the cruising version of the Flying Tiger... The "Crouching Dragon".

touche' !

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 02:19 PM

What Is It?

We got you this time, you bastards! Why the anger, you ask? Because every time we do one of these contests, you smart asses get it right within minutes. Let's see how smart you are this time. Again, first guess with the correct who, what and where gets the prize, this time brought to you by our friends at The Sailing Pro Shop. As we like to say, have fun.

04/11/07

Come on.

Its Kiwi Boat Work, K-280C, being built in Vancouver, Canada.

Wess

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 02:21 PM

It would be nice if somewhere on their website they would list the displacement/ballast.....

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 02:38 PM

Kevin Dibley K280 by Kiwi boat works. www.kiwiboatworks.com
Being build in China


I should have read the thread first. You got it alright but don't you want to edit that to say built in Vancouver, Canada? Or did they change that?

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 03:00 PM

Looks like some sort of Catalina - has that Butler look

Maybe Their answer to the 105 with that sprit?




Damn, this was my guess! Enjoy the swag if you win. :-)

#65 Manana

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 03:13 PM

Andrews 28ish, being built in the BC interior(Penticton?). Poosibly the new "Saint Vetus Dance".

What say you Rudimentary?

Cheers, Trev

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 03:33 PM

It looks like you would need a ladder to climb out of the cockpit onto the deck.

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 03:34 PM

good on ya!
First impression was in fact a Hunter Blend!

Shall we name it a "Cunter"...


HAHAHA that just made my day!

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 03:36 PM

I think you'ss find it is a K280 by Hudson Yachts of Xiamen in China - not far from the builders of the editor's boat.

Good early picture as it is still at the prototype stage

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 03:43 PM

Actually at the Shanghai International Boat Show it had been fitted with pulpit and pushpit with seaats on the quarters.

You are right it is a lifting keel and outboard powered and definately built in China.

Not a race boat by any means but not designed as such but as a voluminous cruiser with a prodder.

As a quarter ton owner not my cup of tea but for the cruising market appears to be a lot of boat for the money.

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 04:00 PM

oh, poor dibley - what did your client make you do?

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 04:15 PM

I am no boat builder but my guess is its Hunter's new foray into the open transom racing world. It will be a lock if the boat has a pedestal or arch mounted traveler! HA HA HA. :lol:

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 04:44 PM

looking at the wheels and no keel i'd have say it the secret winnimacgregerbago 27000

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 05:26 PM

Its boxy and slab sided. I also am reminded of O'Day boats of the 70's.


that's funny-- boxy and slab-sided reminds me of modern AC boats. (this is not intended as a compliment of the boxy and slab-sided look. see also the last of the IMS boats)

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 05:29 PM

It looks like a Kiwi to me

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 05:30 PM

Dehler or some other European POS !

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 05:36 PM

I knew right off Hunter - the windows gave it away - though the deck/hull joint is a little cleaner than past versions. Making progress tward more decent looking boats. Now they just need to rebrand the name.

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 06:02 PM

It would be nice if somewhere on their website they would list the displacement/ballast.....


Displacement looks to be 4,435lbs. Using this value and 25.1' for LWL and 456 square feet for the sail area produces the published D/L and SA/D. Ballast is not available because neither the ratio nor the actual value is published.

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 06:06 PM

It's funny, looking at the various websites for the K280 there is no displacement listed, yet they show SA/Disp and L/Disp.

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 06:06 PM

Whew, I thought Bayliner was making another run at the Buccaneer!

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 06:07 PM

Hey if it isn't a Hunter I want to know more! What the heck is it? the Dibly something?

All I get is some gibberish stuff when googling the K280 - someone post a link if you found it. I want to know more. Shoot if it's better than the Hunter and Catalina I have interest.

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 06:08 PM

I don't get it.

The boat appears affordable. Kevin Dibley did the design and Chris Mitchell did the rig. Plus it is a trailerable family cruiser that looks like it will do fine against the Hunters and Catalinas on Wednesday night.

What's the fucking beef? The wheel? Someone said it is an option for crying out loud.

Man this sport screwed up. Someone steps up to the plate and builds what appears to be an affordable family boat and all you guys do is shit on it.

Opinions are like assholes. Everone has one and they all smell.

Finally there looks like there is an affordable alternative to the Mac, Catalina and Hunter. New families are not heading for the race course right off the bat. They need to learn the ropes. If you shits had your way they would all be hanging their little kids on the rail of a Melges.

You do the sport no justice with this attitude. But this isn't anything new. Its been around since I was a kid. My wanker is bigger that yours and if you disagree I'll piss on your leg.





what's your real name, troll.

#82 Bulbhunter

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 06:11 PM

Hey if it isn't a Hunter I want to know more! What the heck is it? the Dibly something?

All I get is some gibberish stuff when googling the K280 - someone post a link if you found it. I want to know more. Shoot if it's better than the Hunter and Catalina I have interest.



Found it - http://www.kiwiboatworks.com/

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 06:21 PM

K-Mart 33


Not sure what it is other than ugly and looks slow.

Although I think 1sailor deserves the prize for the best answer so far! Haven't laughed this heard in a while!

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 06:25 PM

Winner, prick. PM me.




I was thinking that the factory floor and shop was looking a little too clean.

#85 Delta Blues

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 06:27 PM

No backstay at all?

Posted Image



I thought Catamount nailed it. The graphic he has versus the ED's picture sure seem to be identical. However, the ED required "who, what and where." The What seems to be identified, can you figure out "who and where?"

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 06:36 PM

Now, you listen here! He's not the K-280c. He's a very naughty boat! Now, go away!

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 06:38 PM

Lots of people looking at the forum and not a whole lot of discussion? Granted it doesn't look like an all out racer but could be a nice alternative to the small catalina or hunter as the family mini cruiser/sailor. Thoughts anyone? Backstay thing - hope they aren't going the Hunter no backstay route. I'm not a big fan of the no backstay idea.

If its an updated MAC 26 - then that was one hell of a bad prank. :lol:

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 07:03 PM

I thought Catamount nailed it. The graphic he has versus the ED's picture sure seem to be identical. However, the ED required "who, what and where." The What seems to be identified, can you figure out "who and where?"


I was just following antfromnz's lead.

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 07:32 PM

FT10M with the exploding rudder/tiller problem re-engineered.

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 07:41 PM

K-Mart 33


Does it come with a rotating blue light at the top of the mast?

-w

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 09:45 PM

Does it come with a rotating blue light at the top of the mast?

-w


"Clean up, aisle 4." I just pissed myself with that visual. Not far off with the cost efficiencies of China. Perhaps a Costco 24 is in the works. Too bad it will get taxed as personal property annually and you cannot find a slip because they are all condos now.

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 10:02 PM

the missing rudder is the give-away......

does it come with hiptrader dishrags?

No, but the supplied toilet paper is embossed with "Bush Is a Moron wishes he could own this boat".

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 10:16 PM

Dehler or some other European POS !

Sure, Dehler and the other European brands will never compare to the Cambodian rowboat you've been tooling around in.

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 10:20 PM

This is getting pretty funny. Did we ever sort it out? Or did we all assume it was the KC280? - or giveup?

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 10:28 PM

Kevin Dibley K280 by Kiwi boat works. www.kiwiboatworks.com
Being build in China


You, upon further review, are the winner. How did you know? PM me...

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 10:34 PM

Dehler or some other European POS !


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Posted 11 April 2007 - 10:49 PM

Flying Tampon 10

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 11:03 PM

Its EDs new boat to replace the T-10 now that the wife's getting bitchy :lol:

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 11:24 PM

The back end looks like a bathtub that would leak. The sides look like a Winnebago. The cabin top looks like a schoolbus. Is it the latest design from a guy that gets fired from a lot of jobs?

#100 movable ballast

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 11:24 PM

While it seems a little light on sail area for a 30 footer imagine a tall rig version with tiller for racing and now you have something still at a reasonable price. Would be a great club boat that the wife could deal with.




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