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Posted 11 May 2007 - 06:15 PM

Mine is landing in Detroit tommorow, with a little bit of luck I will have it out of hock by monday.
I never though I would hate the weekend.....

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Posted 11 May 2007 - 06:34 PM

I'd be lying to myself if I said I wasn't green with envy....

Make sure to take pics and post 'em :lol:

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Posted 12 May 2007 - 05:30 AM

View Postcaptanarchy560, on May 11 2007, 11:34 AM, said:

I'd be lying to myself if I said I wasn't green with envy....

Make sure to take pics and post 'em :lol:



Oh dont worry.

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Posted 12 May 2007 - 04:39 PM

View Postbgulari, on May 11 2007, 10:30 PM, said:

Oh dont worry.


Considering the amount of talk, we are expecting a proportional amount of pics.....

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Posted 13 May 2007 - 12:52 AM

and/or do as every other mothist out there and start a blog...

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Posted 13 May 2007 - 01:28 AM

View Postthe_skiff_devil, on May 12 2007, 05:52 PM, said:

and/or do as every other mothist out there and start a blog...


blogging i would just make people laugh with my antics..
damn two more days the weekend sucks...

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Posted 13 May 2007 - 04:51 AM

moths? antics? :lol: since when?

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Posted 14 May 2007 - 11:58 PM

It's monday. I want pics.

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Posted 15 May 2007 - 11:13 AM

View Postballywho, on May 14 2007, 04:58 PM, said:

It's monday. I want pics.




I hate the shipping company no word yet they say today now mother fers.

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Posted 15 May 2007 - 01:18 PM

Oh shit boat will be here in three hours!!!!!!


TWEAK!

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Posted 15 May 2007 - 01:36 PM

!!!!!!!!!!! ;)

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Posted 15 May 2007 - 01:58 PM

Quote

TWEAK!


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/63/Tweek-90349235.jpg - can't take the pressure! Arrgh!

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Posted 15 May 2007 - 02:51 PM

http://forums.sailinganarchy.com/public/style_images/master/snapback.png' alt='View Post' />the_skiff_devil, on May 15 2007, 06:58 AM, said:


Arrgh! one more hour if this m'fer is lieing to me I am gonna put a turkish curse on him..


...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY IN EFFECT UNTIL 8 PM EDT THIS EVENING...
.REST OF TODAY...SOUTHWEST WINDS 15 TO 20 KNOTS WITH GUSTS TO 30 KNOTS.
MOSTLY SUNNY UNTIL ABOUT 3 PM...THEN BECOMING MOSTLY CLOUDY.
NUMEROUS SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS AFTER ABOUT 3 PM. WINDS AND
WAVES WILL BE HIGHER IN AND AROUND THUNDERSTORMS. WAVES 1 TO 2
FEET.



Good day for a first go?

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Posted 15 May 2007 - 03:00 PM

View Postbgulari, on May 15 2007, 08:51 AM, said:

Arrgh! one more hour if this m'fer is lieing to me I am gonna put a turkish curse on him..
...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY IN EFFECT UNTIL 8 PM EDT THIS EVENING...
.REST OF TODAY...SOUTHWEST WINDS 15 TO 20 KNOTS WITH GUSTS TO 30 KNOTS.
MOSTLY SUNNY UNTIL ABOUT 3 PM...THEN BECOMING MOSTLY CLOUDY.
NUMEROUS SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS AFTER ABOUT 3 PM. WINDS AND
WAVES WILL BE HIGHER IN AND AROUND THUNDERSTORMS. WAVES 1 TO 2
FEET.



Good day for a first go?

It is if you want to see the difference between landing a kite board and a Bladerider. :P

I imagine a good share of today will be spent sorting out all the bits and pieces. Good on ya and don't forget the pics. when you get on the water. Hell pics of her coming out of the box would work too. This may be on of the longes hours of your life.

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Posted 15 May 2007 - 03:36 PM

View PostTeamFugu, on May 15 2007, 08:00 AM, said:

It is if you want to see the difference between landing a kite board and a Bladerider. :P

I imagine a good share of today will be spent sorting out all the bits and pieces. Good on ya and don't forget the pics. when you get on the water. Hell pics of her coming out of the box would work too. This may be on of the longes hours of your life.



Lets see if this works. Kinda like the satan's haloween party on south park.



DOUG LORD
DOUG LORD
DOUG LORD!

bet he shows up

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Posted 15 May 2007 - 10:22 PM

I will give you two days to put it together. Time for the weather to improve? This based on watching Scott (foilr) assembling his at easter with Team Bladerider in support. See his Blog: http://scott.projectsomewhere.com/category...ng/moth/page/2/

Being his 4th moth he had a fair idea where things belonged too. Took him maybe 6hrs first time. Its quicker later when you work out the sequence, and have all the bits of rope cut to length etc.

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Posted 15 May 2007 - 11:20 PM

i'm surprised it takes that long to put a BR together... to my eye it looks to be comparatively easy -

take photos of boat in box
pull boat bits out of box
take photos of boat out of box
assemble trolley
take photos of assembled trolley
slot front wingbars and mast post in front sockets (plenty of McLube here) attach compression struts at same time. put little retaining bolt into front bars.
take photos of front wingbars
put tramps on seat and back bars
take photos of back wingbars
slot seat bars on back bars.
take photos of seat bars
put back bars on boat, attach u-bolts lightly, slotting front of seat bars into front bars at the same time
take photos of assembled wings
slot tramps in tramp tracks
take photos of tramps
tighten u-bolts
take photos of u bolts
tighten tramps
take photos of tramps again
attach PBO/dyneema/wire/whatever back wing 'wire'. HEAPS of tension.
take photos of something looking a bit more like a moth
attach toestraps
take photos of toestraps
attach sidestay adjusters
take photos of sidestay adjusters
attach fittings for vang+cunno
take photos of fittings
attach bridle and mainsheet fittings
take photos of mainsheet
feed in internal main foil rod
take photos of foil rod
assemble and bolt on wand
take photos of wand
assemble foils
take tonnes of photos of foils
Attach gantry and rudder box. Discover how cool the canting rudder box really is by spending hours playing with twist adjuster.
take photos of gantry, canting rudder box and your mile-wide smile as it cants back and forth
thread up all control lines
take photos of control lines
slot mast together
take photos of mast
fit out boom
take photos of boom
get some overhead projector transparancies and tape to mast in areas where cams will rub
take photos of mast again
assemble spreaders + stays
take photos of stays and prodder
put battens + cams into main (if they're not in there already)
take photos of sail
rig and admire
take more photos of your mile-wide smile as the boat comes to life.
go sailing.
take photos of everything
discover you left the bung on shore.
don't take photos
Doh!
take photos of that priceless moment.
Upload photos on net.
Post on Sailing Anarchy.

on second thought... that might take a while. Good luck with it Bora.

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Posted 16 May 2007 - 12:29 AM

Jon,
Obvious mistake made by all new moth assemblers, and many sleepy experienced ones.

Toestraps go onto back wing bar with the tramps about step 9.

So when you get to step 23, swear and curse, and undo everything back to step 9 and then proceed again.
There may well be other back steps.

This sort of thing is why bq will take a lot longer than he thinks.
Phil S

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Posted 16 May 2007 - 01:34 AM

Don't want to talk about it but boat is stuck in customs at the airport. Customs must have pulled my record :(

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Posted 16 May 2007 - 01:38 AM

View PostPhil S, on May 15 2007, 05:29 PM, said:

Jon,
Obvious mistake made by all new moth assemblers, and many sleepy experienced ones.

Toestraps go onto back wing bar with the tramps about step 9.

So when you get to step 23, swear and curse, and undo everything back to step 9 and then proceed again.
There may well be other back steps.

This sort of thing is why bq will take a lot longer than he thinks.
Phil S


It is a BG btw Phil. still no boat, but i will bet a case of beer it takes me less than 3 hours to go from box to water.

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Posted 16 May 2007 - 02:14 AM

View Postbgulari, on May 16 2007, 11:38 AM, said:

It is a BG btw Phil. still no boat, but i will bet a case of beer it takes me less than 3 hours to go from box to water.


No Chance. Aim for 2 days then you will not be dissapointed.

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Posted 16 May 2007 - 03:40 AM

View Postbgulari, on May 16 2007, 11:38 AM, said:

It is a BG btw Phil. still no boat, but i will bet a case of beer it takes me less than 3 hours to go from box to water.


not sure who you're betting with there... but i reckon you're going to wind up with a severely rushed job doing all that in 3hrs... when you're playing with razor's edge engineering like one of these things, it's worth taking your time.

I don't think that if you take the prerequisite hour to admire the raking rudder box (and to ensure the rudder pin well secured) and the finish on the boat, the time to drink a few beers while assembling it and if you take your time putting the foils together... it'll take you at least 4hrs... and could well take you all day if you don't happen to have all the tools or help at hand to do it. Add into that any factors that prevent you from working on the boat (such as working to keep food on table and roof over head), I'd schedule a working week of doing bits and pieces after work to assemble the boat.

Thanks phil for filling me in on those little points - was assuming the toestaps would be tied around the back bar using a cutout in the tramps to restrict the movement like it was on my old lazich instead of being a sewn on thing... then again the b/r's do have sewn straps, so logic says that they go on with the tramps. I also missed out the fine detail of tying shock cord to the straps to hold them up off the tramp surface, and the detail of inflating the wing buoyancy, and to shackle or tie the cunno block to the main, and to tie+tape small bits of shock cord to the stays to stop the prodder rotating, and the shock cord on the wand/end of the 'May stick'... long, expensive phone calls to Amac when something goes wrong... the list of things to do to a boat continues ad infinitum, as you well know. The idea was to give some idea as to how much goes into one of these things even when nothing goes wrong (ie. can't get the wingbars to go into the sockets, missing nuts/bolts and/or screws etc.), not to list absolutely everything that needs to be done to get one of these on the water...

skiff devil

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Posted 16 May 2007 - 12:32 PM

View Postbgulari, on May 16 2007, 11:38 AM, said:

but i will bet a case of beer it takes me less than 3 hours to go from box to water.


I'll take you up on that. You're not going to be on the water in 3 hours.

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Posted 16 May 2007 - 02:00 PM

View Postfoilr, on May 16 2007, 05:32 AM, said:

I'll take you up on that. You're not going to be on the water in 3 hours.



Right now i would gladly give up three cases if they would give me my boat

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Posted 16 May 2007 - 02:04 PM

View Postbgulari, on May 16 2007, 02:00 PM, said:

Right now i would gladly give up three cases if they would give me my boat


Hang in there BG... I've done a bunch of importing from Europe for sailboats, trailers and masts, and inevitably it takes a couple of days longer than they initially tell you. I hope you have a good customs broker, it speeds the process up a lot as they know the right people to talk to.

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