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#201 Grinder

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Posted 16 January 2008 - 12:06 AM

some sweet big boats popping up in there.
check it.

Hope we can get out of the harbor with the low water predicted

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Posted 16 January 2008 - 12:31 AM

My newsflash got buried at the end of the last page....

I heard the Flying Tiger 006, now named Gung Ho, got her invite today.

Go the Ho!


186 days to start

Total entries 359

314 registered in monohull racing class

Where the hell are they going to dock all these extra boats?


St Ignace

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Posted 16 January 2008 - 01:02 AM

some sweet big boats popping up in there.
check it.

Hope we can get out of the harbor with the low water predicted


Predicted Section One boats

USA 47001 Big Country Concordia 47
USA 3175 Challenge S&S 50
USA 42250 Chewbacca Nelson Marek 50
USA 46892 Fine Line Nelson Marek 46
USA 50020 Fox Swan 53
USA 52555 Goblin Nelson Marek 50
USA 50048 Main Street J145
USA 50596 Natalie J. Nelson Marek 46 46
USA 52791 Promo Nelson Marek 52
USA 25600 Rampage Concordia 47
USA 52 Retriever Alden 52
CAN 2001 Seagoon Farr ILC 46
USA 51651 St. Francis X-482
USA 40888 Swiftsure Nelson Marek IOR 50
USA 482 Talisman B/C 58 custom
USA 51115 Twister DuBois 50
NZL 52 Vincetore Southern Cross R/C 52
USA 48008 Wildhorses One Design 48
USA 50030 Wooton Custom Rogers 46

Predicted Turbo class

USA 52575 Defiance Judel-Vrolijk 66
USA 97363 Denali Nelson Marek 70
USA 323 Equation Andrews 68
USA 97834 Kokomo Shock 55
USA 52152 Lucky Transpac 52
USA 25168 Stripes Santa Cruz 70
USA 38699 The Cone of Silence Reichel-Pugh Super 30
USA 28686 Windquest Max Z86

Lots of Big boat, There is going to be great competition in Section 1

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Posted 16 January 2008 - 01:07 AM

My newsflash got buried at the end of the last page....
St Ignace


The Judel-Vrolijk 66 'Defiance' from the Merchant Marine Academy

Another Concordia 47 'Rampage'

A Schock 41 returns

And the mysterious Southern Cross R/C 52 'Vincetore'

Nothing else all that new as far as big boats

Windquest is back
Lucky is back (with it's name now in English)
Wooton is back
Promo is back

#205 Sailor90

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Posted 16 January 2008 - 01:12 AM

My newsflash got buried at the end of the last page....
St Ignace

I know that but is there really that much room there for all of the overflow boats?

Their going to have to clear the harbor alittle more this year,

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Posted 16 January 2008 - 01:20 AM

I need to find a ride for this event

anyone know of boats from Muskegon,Mi area looking for crew?

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Posted 16 January 2008 - 01:32 AM

Sleds on the island? Who knew...

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Posted 16 January 2008 - 01:37 AM

186 days to start

Total entries 359

314 registered in monohull racing class

Where the hell are they going to dock all these extra boats?


Total entries 365

318 registered monohulls to race

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Posted 16 January 2008 - 01:51 AM

186 days to start

Total entries 359

314 registered in monohull racing class

Where the hell are they going to dock all these extra boats?


Docking....oh shit, we forgot about that...time for an emergency meeting :huh:

rew

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Posted 16 January 2008 - 02:22 AM

This should be a fun year. A bunch of us decided to step back from the big boat programs and have a go at it with just friends on the little bus. The Laser 28 got her invite today!

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Posted 16 January 2008 - 02:28 AM

Melges 24 One Design Outlaw Start!!

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Posted 16 January 2008 - 02:47 AM

Melges 24 One Design Outlaw Start!!


What? Are you trying to incite anarchy?

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Posted 16 January 2008 - 02:49 AM

If five or six boats committed, I'd do it in a second.

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Posted 16 January 2008 - 02:52 PM

Team Jack-A-Roe is planning on throwing some type of get-together (ie. drunken fiesta). We have a condo at the end of Star Line dock. Day and time not yet decided. Support crew will be there Saturday night. We can't see the finish line from the terrace, but you can sure hear the cannons.

"Enjoy the view from your private rooftop terrace."

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Posted 16 January 2008 - 03:23 PM

so, we're in. DD's slow boat to North China.
CYC's web site is getting hammered today with all the latest crew sign-ins, etc.
Any ETA on safety regs? can we use ORC cat3 as a preliminary guide?

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Posted 16 January 2008 - 03:23 PM

I know that but is there really that much room there for all of the overflow boats?

Their going to have to clear the harbor alittle more this year,


if you are on a fast boat who cares.

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Posted 16 January 2008 - 03:43 PM

Team Jack-A-Roe is planning on throwing some type of get-together (ie. drunken fiesta). We have a condo at the end of Star Line dock. Day and time not yet decided. Support crew will be there Saturday night. We can't see the finish line from the terrace, but you can sure hear the cannons.

"Enjoy the view from your private rooftop terrace."


Sweet digs! Care to share what the rental is for that?

Our hotel for me and the wife is about $300 per night with a 3 night minimum (Sun-Mon-Tue). Recommendation to all--book now!

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Posted 16 January 2008 - 04:02 PM

Sweet digs! Care to share what the rental is for that?

Our hotel for me and the wife is about $300 per night with a 3 night minimum (Sun-Mon-Tue). Recommendation to all--book now!

Hroth


4 night minimum (Sat-Tues), $425 a night. 3 bedrooms, 2 1/2 baths, full kitchen, dining and living room. Washer and dryer. Covered porch and the terrace shown. And a private elevator (ooh la la). We found this last year and immediately booked it for this year before anyone else got a look at it. We did have to crew-proof it a little bit and hide away any breakable furnishings!

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Posted 16 January 2008 - 04:16 PM

I got two nights at the Murray for 134.00/night ("Historic One Queen Standard") by booking last year.

When I called in December to book for the P-H Mac, they had instilled a three night minimum. For one night, I'll stay on the boat... :(

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Posted 16 January 2008 - 04:23 PM

I got two nights at the Murray for 134.00/night ("Historic One Queen Standard") by booking last year.

When I called in December to book for the P-H Mac, they had instilled a three night minimum. For one night, I'll stay on the boat... :(


Murray as well, I booked in December and they only had a few rooms left and there was the 3 night min but it was only about $220 a night for 2 queen bed room...
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Posted 16 January 2008 - 04:28 PM

Team Jack-A-Roe is planning on throwing some type of get-together (ie. drunken fiesta). We have a condo at the end of Star Line dock. Day and time not yet decided. Support crew will be there Saturday night. We can't see the finish line from the terrace, but you can sure hear the cannons.

"Enjoy the view from your private rooftop terrace."


Is the Jack-A-Roe going to need a tow to Charlevoix again this year?... Maybe you can book our tow vessel early this year, and I'll have enough time to make up some additional sandwiches for the trip.

Hee haw.

DG

Sweet digs! Care to share what the rental is for that?

Our hotel for me and the wife is about $300 per night with a 3 night minimum (Sun-Mon-Tue). Recommendation to all--book now!

Hroth


Congrats on the entry buddy-boy... looking forward to seeing you on the island!

DG

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Posted 16 January 2008 - 04:59 PM

Sweet digs! Care to share what the rental is for that?

Our hotel for me and the wife is about $300 per night with a 3 night minimum (Sun-Mon-Tue). Recommendation to all--book now!

Hroth


Book last year! I think the island is pretty close, if not totally, full!

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Posted 16 January 2008 - 05:01 PM

"Is the Jack-A-Roe going to need a tow to Charlevoix again this year?... Maybe you can book our tow vessel early this year, and I'll have enough time to make up some additional sandwiches for the trip."

We hauled the crapola converted lawn mower engine and went with an outboard. Last year we motored overnight from Frankfort to Port Washington. Refueled and were home for last call at Columbia Saturday night. We'll always take an extra sandwich though.

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Posted 16 January 2008 - 05:15 PM

4 night minimum (Sat-Tues), $425 a night. 3 bedrooms, 2 1/2 baths, full kitchen, dining and living room. Washer and dryer. Covered porch and the terrace shown. And a private elevator (ooh la la). We found this last year and immediately booked it for this year before anyone else got a look at it. We did have to crew-proof it a little bit and hide away any breakable furnishings!


That's actually a pretty nice deal. Now that I know this, Team Hrothgar will be poaching the reservation for 2009! Just kidding...maybe.

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Posted 16 January 2008 - 05:19 PM

Congrats on the entry buddy-boy... looking forward to seeing you on the island!

DG


Thanks, my diminutive friend. We are pretty psyched. Are you planning on coming to Muskegon in May?

Hroth

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Posted 16 January 2008 - 07:05 PM

Thanks, my diminutive friend. We are pretty psyched. Are you planning on coming to Muskegon in May?

Hroth


Yup. We'll be there. It's crew dependent, among other things, but yes... we are planning on doing the race. It'll be good to dust off the little toy, and get out and about.

Good times.

DG

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Posted 17 January 2008 - 02:55 AM

Any of you Farr 40 people try to contact Victrix to get them to do both Macs? They have ex' Morrigan.

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Posted 17 January 2008 - 03:28 AM

Any of you Farr 40 people try to contact Victrix to get them to do both Macs? They have ex' Morrigan.


Farr 40's can get their own start for the Chi to Mac, that ought to sell them!

Flash Gordon 5 USA 50001 Farr 40
Gravitas USA 40044 Farr 40 1D MH
Heartbreaker USA 50092 Farr 40 1D MH
Hot Lips USA 40027 Farr 40 1D MH
Inferno USA 40048 Farr 40 1D MH
Pendragon USA 40037 Farr 40 1D MH
Solution USA 40025 Farr 40 od

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Posted 17 January 2008 - 06:44 PM

388 today. I have heard rumblings about a 400 limit... any truth to that? Logistically there has got to be a max at some point.
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Posted 17 January 2008 - 07:07 PM

Predicted Section One boats

USA 47001 Big Country Concordia 47
USA 3175 Challenge S&S 50
USA 42250 Chewbacca Nelson Marek 50
USA 46892 Fine Line Nelson Marek 46
USA 50020 Fox Swan 53
USA 52555 Goblin Nelson Marek 50
USA 50048 Main Street J145
USA 50596 Natalie J. Nelson Marek 46 46
USA 52791 Promo Nelson Marek 52
USA 25600 Rampage Concordia 47
USA 52 Retriever Alden 52
CAN 2001 Seagoon Farr ILC 46
USA 51651 St. Francis X-482
USA 40888 Swiftsure Nelson Marek IOR 50
USA 482 Talisman B/C 58 custom
USA 51115 Twister DuBois 50
NZL 52 Vincetore Southern Cross R/C 52
USA 48008 Wildhorses One Design 48
USA 50030 Wooton Custom Rogers 46

Predicted Turbo class

USA 52575 Defiance Judel-Vrolijk 66
USA 97363 Denali Nelson Marek 70
USA 323 Equation Andrews 68
USA 97834 Kokomo Shock 55
USA 52152 Lucky Transpac 52
USA 25168 Stripes Santa Cruz 70
USA 38699 The Cone of Silence Reichel-Pugh Super 30
USA 28686 Windquest Max Z86

Lots of Big boat, There is going to be great competition in Section 1



Merlin Bill Lee 68 canting keel is now registered for the Mac!

Registration Information:
Owner/Charterer: Jerome D. Sullivan
From: Vero Beach, Florida USA
Representing Club: Milwaukee Yacht Club
Registered Crew: 12
Section: ORR
Division: Unassigned
Yacht Information:
Sail Number: USA 8955
Yacht Type: Bill Lee 68 canting keel
Length: 68.5
Min. Draft: 12.0
Hull Color: Blue
State of Registration: Wisconsin
Registration #: ***Wi
ORR Offsho

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Posted 17 January 2008 - 07:13 PM

Merlin Bill Lee 68 canting keel is now registered for the Mac!

Registration Information:
Owner/Charterer: Jerome D. Sullivan

Bit of a jump from Bacchant...

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Posted 17 January 2008 - 07:33 PM

Farr 40's can get their own start for the Chi to Mac, that ought to sell them!

Flash Gordon 5 USA 50001 Farr 40
Gravitas USA 40044 Farr 40 1D MH
Heartbreaker USA 50092 Farr 40 1D MH
Hot Lips USA 40027 Farr 40 1D MH
Inferno USA 40048 Farr 40 1D MH
Pendragon USA 40037 Farr 40 1D MH
Solution USA 40025 Farr 40 od


If Solution is coming from D Town I hope they bring Victrix. They could stay and do WCMR and the Verve heck bring the boats in for the NOOD's too.

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Posted 17 January 2008 - 07:53 PM

Up to 389 entries.

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Posted 17 January 2008 - 08:03 PM

Bit of a jump from Bacchant...

What, you don't think they have similar performance/handling characteristics?

:rolleyes:

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Posted 17 January 2008 - 09:20 PM

4 feet of length is a big jump?

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Posted 17 January 2008 - 09:47 PM

4 feet of length is a big jump?


Quote from a report of the 1998 race:

"In the PHRF fleet Bacchant, a classsic 75 square meter
owned and skippered by Jerome Sullivan of Milwuakee, was 1st
overall. Bacchant scored her win by less than a minute over
Sayonara."

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Posted 17 January 2008 - 10:05 PM

4 feet of length is a big jump?

You decide...

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Posted 17 January 2008 - 10:47 PM

You decide...

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Those are like two completely different boats. Wow - it'll be strange racing a mac without seeing that gorgeous wooden boat on the line. You'd think he would've waited to at least compete in the 100th running. ? Very classic boat. Hope it goes to a good home.

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Posted 17 January 2008 - 11:15 PM

Merlin Bill Lee 68 canting keel is now registered for the Mac!

Registration Information:
Owner/Charterer: Jerome D. Sullivan
From: Vero Beach, Florida USA
Representing Club: Milwaukee Yacht Club
Registered Crew: 12
Section: ORR
Division: Unassigned
Yacht Information:
Sail Number: USA 8955
Yacht Type: Bill Lee 68 canting keel
Length: 68.5
Min. Draft: 12.0
Hull Color: Blue
State of Registration: Wisconsin
Registration #: ***Wi
ORR Offsho


That boat was for sale in the back of sailing world for over two years!

Did someone finally buy it?

All the specs and photos are here

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Posted 18 January 2008 - 01:27 PM

Bacchant hasn't raced the Mac for three years now. Just gotta wonder if Merlin will even fit at the island with a 12' draft.

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Posted 18 January 2008 - 01:44 PM

Predicted Section One boats

USA 47001 Big Country Concordia 47
USA 3175 Challenge S&S 50
USA 42250 Chewbacca Nelson Marek 50
USA 46892 Fine Line Nelson Marek 46
USA 50020 Fox Swan 53
USA 52555 Goblin Nelson Marek 50
USA 50048 Main Street J145
USA 50596 Natalie J. Nelson Marek 46 46
USA 52791 Promo Nelson Marek 52
USA 25600 Rampage Concordia 47
USA 52 Retriever Alden 52
CAN 2001 Seagoon Farr ILC 46
USA 51651 St. Francis X-482
USA 40888 Swiftsure Nelson Marek IOR 50
USA 482 Talisman B/C 58 custom
USA 51115 Twister DuBois 50
NZL 52 Vincetore Southern Cross R/C 52
USA 48008 Wildhorses One Design 48
USA 50030 Wooton Custom Rogers 46

Predicted Turbo class

USA 52575 Defiance Judel-Vrolijk 66
USA 97363 Denali Nelson Marek 70
USA 323 Equation Andrews 68
USA 97834 Kokomo Shock 55
USA 52152 Lucky Transpac 52
USA 25168 Stripes Santa Cruz 70
USA 38699 The Cone of Silence Reichel-Pugh Super 30
USA 28686 Windquest Max Z86

Lots of Big boat, There is going to be great competition in Section 1



Sailor90, while we would love to think we are that fast, both Retriever (won the Mac 2 times) and Challenge are state of the art 1970 and will again be competing in Section 5. :P

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Posted 18 January 2008 - 02:56 PM

Nor will St Francis (X-482) be in section 1

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Posted 18 January 2008 - 04:37 PM

Just checked, 400 entries as of now.

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Posted 18 January 2008 - 05:22 PM

Bacchant hasn't raced the Mac for three years now. Just gotta wonder if Merlin will even fit at the island with a 12' draft.

Max Z86 has gotta draw at least that much.

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Posted 18 January 2008 - 05:26 PM

That boat was for sale in the back of sailing world for over two years!

Did someone finally buy it?

All the specs and photos are here

12' beam is awful thin for a 68' boat.

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Posted 18 January 2008 - 05:55 PM

12' beam is awful thin for a 68' boat.


That boat was designed for one thing only, and going upwind it isn't.

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Posted 18 January 2008 - 06:00 PM

That boat was designed for one thing only, and going upwind it isn't.

Just reminded me of a Mac 65 (Ace), also at 12' beam.

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Years Built 2006-
LOA 65'
LWL 63'
Beam 12'
Draft 6'
Displacement 32,000 lbs, dry
Ballast 12,000 lbs
Sail Area 1330
Mast Height
Water Capacity 225 gal
Fuel Capacity 250 gal
Aux. Power 150 h.p. diesel
Hull Speed 10.64
I 62'
J 26' 7 in
P 53' 3 in
E 19'
Capsize Ratio
Disp. Length Ratio T
Keel Material

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Posted 18 January 2008 - 06:03 PM

Comparing a MacGregor 65 to Merlin is like comparing a Pinto to a Ferrari.

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Posted 18 January 2008 - 08:08 PM

Comparing a MacGregor 65 to Merlin is like comparing a Pinto to a Ferrari.


A Mac 65 will burst into flames if you hit it from behind? Is that some kind of gay codespeak?

Alright, I'm doing the Mac with you guys on the sled. Both actually. Figured I'd start firing the shots now...

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Posted 18 January 2008 - 08:15 PM

A Mac 65 will burst into flames if you hit it from behind?


awesome

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Posted 18 January 2008 - 08:29 PM

A Mac 65 will burst into flames if you hit it from behind? Is that some kind of gay codespeak?

Alright, I'm doing the Mac with you guys on the sled. Both actually. Figured I'd start firing the shots now...


Gay codespeak? Although I don't think MacGregor ever introduced the a Mac 65 Cruising Wagon, I'd like to spend as much time on one as a Pinto.

Good, the boat needs a good head mechanic. RJ keeps falling down on the job.

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Posted 18 January 2008 - 11:05 PM

Bacchant hasn't raced the Mac for three years now. Just gotta wonder if Merlin will even fit at the island with a 12' draft.

I miss seeing Bacchant on the water. Absolutely beautiful. That boat ought to be on the National Register of Historic Treasures.

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Posted 18 January 2008 - 11:20 PM

Team Jack-A-Roe is planning on throwing some type of get-together (ie. drunken fiesta). We have a condo at the end of Star Line dock. Day and time not yet decided. Support crew will be there Saturday night. We can't see the finish line from the terrace, but you can sure hear the cannons.

"Enjoy the view from your private rooftop terrace."



I'll be there...staying at Island House again. Goodies already stored in the booze locker at MIYC so we gotta have a toddy on that veranda, too.

Any truth to the rumor that the awards have been moved to Mission Point? We were too much for the Grand??? :P :P

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Posted 19 January 2008 - 04:37 PM













Stark Raving Mad III

USA 52566

James Madden

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Reichel-Pugh 66

66

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Posted 19 January 2008 - 04:54 PM

Burnsy, Shife- no Fuzzy Logic this year?

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Posted 19 January 2008 - 05:23 PM

Comparing a MacGregor 65 to Merlin is like comparing a Pinto to a Ferrari.

Hey I had a pinto growing up

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Posted 19 January 2008 - 05:58 PM

There goes the neighborhood!

Looks like SRM III is going to give WindQuest MaxZ86 a run for their money on line honors!

I can see the "Rock Star's " lining up now... going to be a fun summer on the Great Lakes.





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66[/quote]

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Posted 19 January 2008 - 08:38 PM

182 days til start--413 entries. Cool.

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Posted 19 January 2008 - 08:59 PM

182 days til start--413 entries. Cool.

Hroth


Yea and 352 of them are monohull racing! Sweet!! :)

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Posted 19 January 2008 - 09:08 PM

Sailor90, while we would love to think we are that fast, both Retriever (won the Mac 2 times) and Challenge are state of the art 1970 and will again be competing in Section 5. :P


I'm guessing a lot of those "Big Boats" WON't make it div 1.

FOX, Retriever? way down the line... where do you think the ratiing cut off will be for Div 1? I'm betting there will be at least two divisions with ratings less than O (perhaps three) not counting the GL70's

#261 5degrees

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Posted 19 January 2008 - 09:28 PM

Here's another very fast boat that should compete with the big guys.

"Defiance" USMMA is coming in for the race

Belle Mente

AKA Bella Mente JV 66 USA 52575 IRC endorsed 1.435


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From: Kings Point, New York USA
Representing Club: U.S. Merchant Marine Academy
Registered Crew: 16
Section: ORR
Division: Unassigned
Yacht Information:
Sail Number: USA 52575
Yacht Type: Judel-Vrolijk 66
Length: 65.95
Min. Draft: 11.94
Hull Color: Blue
State of Registration:
Registration #: ***N/A

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Posted 19 January 2008 - 09:36 PM

I'm guessing a lot of those "Big Boats" WON't make it div 1.

FOX, Retriever? way down the line... where do you think the ratiing cut off will be for Div 1? I'm betting there will be at least two divisions with ratings less than O (perhaps three) not counting the GL70's

I know I wasn't looking at the rating, In my Haste to post (friend was physically pulling me out of my chair) I was just looking at the LOA, Some of the boats names seemed odd and I didn't think they were Section One boats.

The rating for section one is generally anything above a 1.037, It just depends on the fleet.

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Posted 19 January 2008 - 09:46 PM

Start praying for breeze. This could be a really great thing with all these big boats coming to town. Hopefully they have a good enough time that they will return for future races not ending with a '00'.

Edit: wow. what shitty sentence structure. i'm too lazy to rewrite it.

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Posted 19 January 2008 - 09:55 PM

I will venture a guess, that anything rating over 1.1 will be in a turbo section.

Section 1 will boats that rate between 1.02 and 1.099.

Linc

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Posted 19 January 2008 - 10:01 PM

Probably about right. Should make for a very interesting Turbo and Sec 1..

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Posted 20 January 2008 - 02:45 PM

Looking like a sweet line up. And I can only immagine more to come. I'm stoked. Are they really going to cut the entrys off? That would suck. I know logistics get tricky once your up there. Why not just offer the race sponsored dockage to a set # boats based on the time they entered. It's a slight deterant for late entries but better than getting denied from the party.....

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Posted 20 January 2008 - 03:45 PM

Start praying for breeze. This could be a really great thing with all these big boats coming to town. Hopefully they have a good enough time that they will return for future races not ending with a '00'.

Edit: wow. what shitty sentence structure. i'm too lazy to rewrite it.


Shit, thanks for caring about sentence structure!

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Posted 20 January 2008 - 03:51 PM

In addition to the question of where will they put all those boats, I am wondering where they will put all the people. Rooms get scarce in a normal year...

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Posted 20 January 2008 - 05:32 PM

What happened to "KarMitzvah" or "Flyswatter"


I heard the Flying Tiger 006, now named Gung Ho, got her invite today.

Go the Ho!



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Posted 20 January 2008 - 08:26 PM

What happened to "KarMitzvah" or "Flyswatter"



I know, I know.
Personally I prefer Flyswatter, but Sammy got Gung Ho from the Ken Burns film about the 2nd World War.
Apparently Gung Ho means "working together" in Chinese.
It has more of a communistic co-operative sense to the meaning than our semper fi do or die connotation.

Go the Ho!

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Posted 20 January 2008 - 08:46 PM

I prefer the 'Flying Tabby'.

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Posted 20 January 2008 - 09:54 PM

I will venture a guess, that anything rating over 1.1 will be in a turbo section.

Section 1 will boats that rate between 1.02 and 1.099.

Linc

The 'Turbo' section, in the past, has been reserved for boats that don't meet the requirements of 'traditional' race yachts. For example, before they created a Multi section, Steve Fossett raced ex-Starts & Stripes catamaran in Turbo section. Other examples of 'Turbo' boats are those using canting keels (Genuine Risk), water-ballast (Windquest) and, I would suspect, any boat that uses power winches.

I am not saying that is how it will be for 2008 but that is how it has been in the past.

Oh, and boats in the Turbo section are NOT elligible for the Mac Cup or Mac Trophy (Overall awards).

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Posted 20 January 2008 - 10:57 PM

Shit, thanks for caring about sentence structure!

Fuck off English teacher! (was the structure of that sentence acceptable?)

#274 barleymalt

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Posted 20 January 2008 - 11:18 PM

The 'Turbo' section, in the past, has been reserved for boats that don't meet the requirements of 'traditional' race yachts. For example, before they created a Multi section, Steve Fossett raced ex-Starts & Stripes catamaran in Turbo section. Other examples of 'Turbo' boats are those using canting keels (Genuine Risk), water-ballast (Windquest) and, I would suspect, any boat that uses power winches.

I am not saying that is how it will be for 2008 but that is how it has been in the past.

Oh, and boats in the Turbo section are NOT elligible for the Mac Cup or Mac Trophy (Overall awards).


Stripes SC70 sailed (and won) the turbo class two years ago. Windquest was the only non traditional boat in the class that year.

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Posted 20 January 2008 - 11:42 PM

The 'Turbo' section, in the past, has been reserved for boats that don't meet the requirements of 'traditional' race yachts. For example, before they created a Multi section, Steve Fossett raced ex-Starts & Stripes catamaran in Turbo section. Other examples of 'Turbo' boats are those using canting keels (Genuine Risk), water-ballast (Windquest) and, I would suspect, any boat that uses power winches.

I am not saying that is how it will be for 2008 but that is how it has been in the past.

Oh, and boats in the Turbo section are NOT elligible for the Mac Cup or Mac Trophy (Overall awards).


Turbo boats are purely a ratings based decision and can include traditional keels. They are eligible for all honors and awards (and have been). There is not a hard rule for where the break is. Last year there were only about 3 boats that it would have made sense to split out and that is below the committees threshold for setting a section. There are certainly enough of the really fast this year to establish a turbo section.

There was one year ('01 or '02) where we put moveable ballast boats in a separate section. Only two boats and the committee abandoned that idea after one year. Ever since then they have been allowed to race as any other entry.

Fossett was in an exhibition class which was created primarily for multihulls, and later became the multihull division (i believe we made that change in 1998). THere was only one entry in the old exhibition division that was a monohull, Red Hornet in 1997.

ORR rates canting keels and thus they are allowed. Powered winches are only allowed if the OA allows it and we have only done that for cruising class boats.

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Posted 21 January 2008 - 03:42 PM

The 'Turbo' section, in the past, has been reserved for boats that don't meet the requirements of 'traditional' race yachts. For example, before they created a Multi section, Steve Fossett raced ex-Starts & Stripes catamaran in Turbo section. Other examples of 'Turbo' boats are those using canting keels (Genuine Risk), water-ballast (Windquest) and, I would suspect, any boat that uses power winches.

I am not saying that is how it will be for 2008 but that is how it has been in the past.

Oh, and boats in the Turbo section are NOT elligible for the Mac Cup or Mac Trophy (Overall awards).



Windquest won the Mac Trophy last year.

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Posted 21 January 2008 - 03:45 PM

The 'Turbo' section, in the past, has been reserved for boats that don't meet the requirements of 'traditional' race yachts. For example, before they created a Multi section, Steve Fossett raced ex-Starts & Stripes catamaran in Turbo section. Other examples of 'Turbo' boats are those using canting keels (Genuine Risk), water-ballast (Windquest) and, I would suspect, any boat that uses power winches.

I am not saying that is how it will be for 2008 but that is how it has been in the past.

Oh, and boats in the Turbo section are NOT elligible for the Mac Cup or Mac Trophy (Overall awards).



Actually, Stars and Stripes raced in the experimental section.

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Posted 22 January 2008 - 05:09 AM

Am I looking at the mac race entry correctly-it would appear that the "PP-2" entered this year is the old decision/pegasus the turbo'ed andrews 70 that went through katrina? If so it looks like another sled won owner lotto in terms of care/rehab. Looks to be an interesting year indeed if that is correct.....chicago crowd wish to chime in on this one?



Start: July 19, 2008 179 days to start
"Runaway"
Registration Information:
Owner/Charterer: Richard Jennings
From: Niles , Illinois USA
Representing Club: Burnham Park Yacht Club
Registered Crew: 14
Section: ORR
Division: Unassigned
Yacht Information:
Sail Number: USA 46269
Yacht Type: Andrews 70
Length: 70
Min. Draft: 12
Hull Color: white
State of Registration: ***tbd
Registration #: ***TBD
ORR Offshore Course - All Purpose:
ORR Offshore Course - Mainly Downwind:
Entry Status:
NOR 5. a. Race Application: Received
NOR 5. b Entry Fee Received: Received
NOR 5. d. Race Tracking Application:
NOR 5. e. Certificate of Insurance:
NOR 5. f. ORR Rating Certificate:
NOR 5. h. Safety Compliance (MSR):
NOR 5. i. Completed Crew List:
NOR 5. k. Pre-Race Sign-in Certificate and Waiver:

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Posted 22 January 2008 - 05:32 AM

421 entries and counting?

Who will be heading to Harbor Springs for the US-IRC National Championship after the Chicaog Mac?

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Posted 22 January 2008 - 12:48 PM

SparWars3(Olson 30) will be there....I'll be on Bramble(Frers 41) in the CHI-Mac...my 5th (6th if you count one Bayview/Mac).

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Posted 22 January 2008 - 12:50 PM

Am I looking at the mac race entry correctly-it would appear that the "PP-2" entered this year is the old decision/pegasus the turbo'ed andrews 70 that went through katrina? If so it looks like another sled won owner lotto in terms of care/rehab. Looks to be an interesting year indeed if that is correct.....chicago crowd wish to chime in on this one?



Start: July 19, 2008 179 days to start
"Runaway"
Registration Information:
Owner/Charterer: Richard Jennings
From: Niles , Illinois USA
Representing Club: Burnham Park Yacht Club
Registered Crew: 14
Section: ORR
Division: Unassigned
Yacht Information:
Sail Number: USA 46269
Yacht Type: Andrews 70
Length: 70
Min. Draft: 12
Hull Color: white
State of Registration: ***tbd
Registration #: ***TBD
ORR Offshore Course - All Purpose:
ORR Offshore Course - Mainly Downwind:
Entry Status:
NOR 5. a. Race Application: Received
NOR 5. b Entry Fee Received: Received
NOR 5. d. Race Tracking Application:
NOR 5. e. Certificate of Insurance:
NOR 5. f. ORR Rating Certificate:
NOR 5. h. Safety Compliance (MSR):
NOR 5. i. Completed Crew List:
NOR 5. k. Pre-Race Sign-in Certificate and Waiver:


That would be correct, Jennings has bought the boat and is bringing her to the GL.

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Posted 22 January 2008 - 12:57 PM

Is there an NOR for the rumoured Round the Island (Mackinac) Race?

I heard it would be on Wednesday or Thursday .......

#283 Hrothgar

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Posted 22 January 2008 - 01:49 PM

421 entries and counting?

Who will be heading to Harbor Springs for the US-IRC National Championship after the Chicaog Mac?


We're planning on that. We probably won't due the IRC thing but the Regatta is fun. Plus, the kids will be with grandma in Bay View across the bay so it will be a little vacation before we bring the boat back south.

Hroth

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Posted 22 January 2008 - 01:51 PM

421 entries and counting?


So, its 422 now out of 558 invitations issued. To me, that seems like a REAL high hit rate--76%!

Hroth

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Posted 22 January 2008 - 04:49 PM

Any word on the GL70's doing the IRC races instead of the Bay Harbor Regatta?

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Posted 22 January 2008 - 05:23 PM

So, its 422 now out of 558 invitations issued. To me, that seems like a REAL high hit rate--76%!

Hroth


Hey Hroth,

Is this like porn for you?

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Posted 22 January 2008 - 05:24 PM

No Bay Harbor this year. I think the 70s are doing a W/L regatta at Harbor Springs after Chi-Mac, and some will probably stay for the IRC championship. No idea which boats.

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Posted 22 January 2008 - 06:04 PM

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Hey Hroth,

Is this like porn for you?

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OH MY GOD I"M GONNA CUM

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Posted 22 January 2008 - 06:18 PM

Hey Hroth,

Is this like porn for you?

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If you're going to do that, you've got to put "Friday" in the thread title.....

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Posted 22 January 2008 - 07:07 PM

You guys have waaaaaaay too much time on your hands. Is the snow storm addling your brains!

Besides, this is the only thing I like!

Hroth

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Posted 22 January 2008 - 07:11 PM

You guys have waaaaaaay too much time on your hands. Is the snow storm addling your brains!

Besides, this is the only thing I like!

Hroth


Thats the formula for Standard Deviation for all us dumb folk... so creative
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Posted 22 January 2008 - 09:06 PM

Any idea who this is? I don't recognize the name as a GL70 owner.

USA 50045
Lance Smotherman
Harrison Twp., Michigan
Bayview Yacht Club
Great Lakes 70

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Posted 22 January 2008 - 09:10 PM

Any idea who this is? I don't recognize the name as a GL70 owner.

USA 50045
Lance Smotherman
Harrison Twp., Michigan
Bayview Yacht Club
Great Lakes 70


I think he charters that boat for the race. He used to own the J/35 Dark Star, has a Melgi now (I think) and is a fairly big wig in the Detroit area yacht club scene. At least when I was racing there he was. I can neither confirm or deny some people called his J/35 Dark Stain.

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Posted 22 January 2008 - 09:11 PM

Thats the formula for Standard Deviation for all us dumb folk... so creative
-000

You obviously started drinking very early today.

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Posted 22 January 2008 - 09:20 PM

Any idea who this is? I don't recognize the name as a GL70 owner.

USA 50045
Lance Smotherman
Harrison Twp., Michigan
Bayview Yacht Club
Great Lakes 70


He owns a 1d35 and m24 both named Evolution in the Detroit area. He recently bought the old Colt 45.

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Posted 22 January 2008 - 09:27 PM

Thats the formula for Standard Deviation for all us dumb folk... so creative
-000


What the hell is he talking about???? I thought the two martini lunch was a thing of the past.

#297 Hrothgar

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Posted 22 January 2008 - 10:54 PM

What the hell is he talking about???? I thought the two martini lunch was a thing of the past.


Aren't you supposed to be in Key West?

Hroth

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Posted 22 January 2008 - 11:37 PM

With 558 invites sent out, that number being about twice the average of boats that do the race, and with about 450 already entered, all joking aside, how does CYC plan to pull this off without some serious shit going down on and around the island? There seems not to be a cut-off number other than that 558 sent out.
Anyone involved care to shed some light on depth of logistics involved and gone over?

#299 JoeO

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Posted 23 January 2008 - 12:05 AM

With so many entries, I really think it's time to reconsider that Hobart-style start... just think what it could look like! Who wants to serve on the jury now??!!

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Posted 23 January 2008 - 01:19 AM

With so many entries, I really think it's time to reconsider that Hobart-style start... just think what it could look like! Who wants to serve on the jury now??!!


General Recall? :o




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