Live Race Reports - 100th Race To Mackinac
#101
Posted 20 July 2008 - 06:38 PM
and stevedallas - thanks for the tip. We're headed to Pyramid Point.
#102
Posted 20 July 2008 - 06:38 PM
Did you give up sailing?... The wife and I went hiking & kayaking there 2 weeks ago
What happened to your CatalinaS dream?
#103
Posted 20 July 2008 - 06:46 PM
"Just next to Inferno and Hot Lips - 7 knots BS, wind around 8 from 236.
#104
Posted 20 July 2008 - 06:50 PM
Report from Nice Pair - bearing 024, 56 miles to go to South Manitou. Just passed Promo, Windancer is in sight as well. We're 10 miles off Big Point Sable, catching all the other sleds.
We've got a kite, full main, jib, wind is pretty thermal coming from 220-240 or so.
No decision as to go inside or outside just yet. We're just trucking man.
#105
Posted 20 July 2008 - 06:55 PM
Turbo Class:
Multihull 2:
And the final start - with Earth Voyager, the Gunboat, Nice Pair and more:
#106
Posted 20 July 2008 - 07:08 PM
Report from Bora "About to roll Talisman. They're ours."
#107
Posted 20 July 2008 - 07:11 PM
Thanks for watching, and please make sure to check out the unofficial, unauthorized, unlicensed, unapproved Chicago-Mackinac website at www.chicagomackinac.com - the webcams are running now, and they've got some fun stuff planned. Also, go buy some shit at Torresen Marine - The Sailboat Specialists on the Great Lakes and Worldwide.
#108
Posted 20 July 2008 - 08:05 PM
#109
Posted 20 July 2008 - 08:17 PM
#110
Posted 20 July 2008 - 08:24 PM
#111
Posted 20 July 2008 - 09:23 PM
P.S..... I understand that the 2 lead boats on the iboat tracker are indeed not.
And fwiw..... I like the google maps iboat tracker better than the other one.
And And..... I got tired of waiting for vid yesterday so I took my son sailing for the first time on a dinghy. It was on my Contender and it was blowing. He said Dad, I see why your are addicted to this. I immediately turned the boat around and went in on a very good note. In any case, thanks for the vid.
#112
Posted 20 July 2008 - 10:51 PM
Looks like you better hustle Clean
Looks like GR, Windquest and a couple others have gone by already. They're moving pretty good now.
#113
Posted 20 July 2008 - 11:14 PM
#114
Posted 20 July 2008 - 11:35 PM
#115
Posted 20 July 2008 - 11:48 PM
Were now stopping at every overlook we can find to try to see the boats coming through the manitous, still no luck at whaleback mtn. Near leland. Feels like a bizarro scavenger hunt. Were going to miss the last ferry for sure. Reports from hellion on can can are of terrible breeze, impossible sailing.
any word on the location of Earth Voyager? word from Nice Pair is they are 25 nm south of the manitou's as of 6:45 p.m. toledo time.
#116
Posted 20 July 2008 - 11:54 PM
#117
Posted 21 July 2008 - 12:23 AM
Looks like your best shot would be from Leelanau State Park, The camp ground is right on the tip of "the little finger" From there you can see North Manitou and South Fox Islands.
If you get to L. State Park, good luck getting the last ferry to the island. stayed there last year, beautiful place, but way off the beaten path. Great effort on the photo. The cocktail party at the Grand Hotel, has many "dock box" ladies. I suggest you forget the pic, and get to the land of horse!
#118
Posted 21 July 2008 - 12:47 AM
#119
Posted 21 July 2008 - 01:06 AM
You can check out the weather conditions from the Chippewa on our webcams. (at least until it gets really dark
http://www.chicagoma...om/2008/webcam/
#120
Posted 21 July 2008 - 01:16 AM
the flies suck, the fog sucks! It rolled back in about an hour ago. Had 2 close calls with a pickle fork coming from no where out of the fog. Just plugging along 125 apw 10 tws 6.6-7knots.
#121
Posted 21 July 2008 - 01:46 AM
#122
Posted 21 July 2008 - 02:04 AM
Windquest is pulling ahead of GR , slightly more than 40 miles out from the finish. Looking at Denali's transponder I'm guessing it is in a car heading up to the island. Unless things shut down - a pretty fast race - not record breaking but certainly not slow.
How can you tell Windquest is pulling ahead? The transponder positions are being taken at different times, and they are so close, it is hard to tell who is ahead.
#123
Posted 21 July 2008 - 02:38 AM
A report from peacefrog-
the flies suck, the fog sucks! It rolled back in about an hour ago. Had 2 close calls with a pickle fork coming from no where out of the fog. Just plugging along 125 apw 10 tws 6.6-7knots.
The flies sucked earlier in the week during the delivery too! Good times...
#124
Posted 21 July 2008 - 02:38 AM
Please don't argue with BUSH SUPPORTER who, like his hero shrub, believes that he is "The Decider".How can you tell Windquest is pulling ahead? The transponder positions are being taken at different times, and they are so close, it is hard to tell who is ahead.Windquest is pulling ahead of GR , slightly more than 40 miles out from the finish. Looking at Denali's transponder I'm guessing it is in a car heading up to the island. Unless things shut down - a pretty fast race - not record breaking but certainly not slow.
BUSH SUPPORTER'S 83 SECONDS OF FAME.
#125
Posted 21 July 2008 - 02:40 AM
#126
Posted 21 July 2008 - 02:45 AM
How can you tell Windquest is pulling ahead? The transponder positions are being taken at different times, and they are so close, it is hard to tell who is ahead.
Please don't argue with BUSH SUPPORTER who, like his hero shrub, believes that he is "The Decider".
BUSH SUPPORTERS 83 SECONDS OF FAME
Jesus....Take it to PA will ya?
#127
Posted 21 July 2008 - 02:53 AM
Jesus....Take it to PA will ya?

Old Bozo,
Please keep your religion out of politics.
#128
Posted 21 July 2008 - 02:55 AM
#129
Posted 21 July 2008 - 03:01 AM
You got it, Mr. Clean.GP, take it elsewhere.
#130
Posted 21 July 2008 - 03:03 AM
Denali is losing all that time they made sitting waiting for the ferry. My guess is this is going to cost them big time. All that way and screwed by Scheppler's at the end.
#131
Posted 21 July 2008 - 03:04 AM
So what's going on out there besides what we can see on the race tracker? Anyone?
#132
Posted 21 July 2008 - 03:07 AM
#133
Posted 21 July 2008 - 03:13 AM
#134
Posted 21 July 2008 - 03:15 AM
#135
Posted 21 July 2008 - 03:22 AM
#136
Posted 21 July 2008 - 03:39 AM
, and Mer's in the ladies room of a gas station in charlevoix.
Thanks Clean, we really needed to know that!
Keep up the coverage though, it's fun watching a yacht race from the other side of the world.
#137
Posted 21 July 2008 - 03:43 AM
#138
Posted 21 July 2008 - 03:44 AM
#139
Posted 21 July 2008 - 03:56 AM
Hippie, gonzo and big country are trudging along at 8-10 knots in 14 or so from 200. Evolution and another 70 were gybing through the manitous at sunset when we saw them. We need to make tracks toward the bridge, its a real race now for us vs genuine risk and windquest, and Mer's in the ladies room of a gas station in charlevoix.
Excellent coverage Clean! Trey shouting out from Cleveland/PIB (I-14 became a flower box way back when). Buy Pepe a beer for me at the pony. Fantastic job as always.
#140
Posted 21 July 2008 - 04:12 AM
Matt from gamera just called in, before his signal dropped he said "I know what's wrong with this race...we forgot the porn!"
Based on the latest, our brother Geff may very well make the 100th his first ever chi-mack win, and take the double this year. Go the cat!
#141
Posted 21 July 2008 - 04:14 AM
Attached Files
#142
Posted 21 July 2008 - 04:25 AM
#143
Posted 21 July 2008 - 04:25 AM
Were now stopping at every overlook we can find to try to see the boats coming through the manitous, still no luck at whaleback mtn. Near leland. Feels like a bizarro scavenger hunt. Were going to miss the last ferry for sure. Reports from hellion on can can are of terrible breeze, impossible sailing.
Hope you waved to my parents.
#144
Posted 21 July 2008 - 04:32 AM
Thanks, Mer for providing us with all the coverage. It's making missing this Mac a lot less painful. I'll be there next year (neck willing) and anticipate a few photos of me. You're doing a great job!
#145
Posted 21 July 2008 - 04:34 AM
#146
Posted 21 July 2008 - 05:02 AM
We are under the bridge, and it is GLASS.
I love it...the last five miles are always the trickiest----! Keep up the great reports Clean. Will you be in Harbor? If so, I will see you there. I will be hanging out on a tender watching for a change
JHood
#147
Posted 21 July 2008 - 05:04 AM
#148
Posted 21 July 2008 - 05:22 AM
On the other side of the bridge now, and there is about 5 knots of breeze coming straight up the pipe from the E. It may be a while! Fyi, it's that typical cold wet mack night- maybe 60 degrees on the giant fridge that is lake michigan.
#149
Posted 21 July 2008 - 05:27 AM
Hey juggy! Great to see you here bro. Unfortunately we can't make harbor- got to hightail it to marblehead to drive a viper 640 at their NA's thurs-sunday. Considering the lack of sleep I expect for then next two nights, I probably shouldn't bother trying to race. Make sure you send us some good shots from harbor k?
On the other side of the bridge now, and there is about 5 knots of breeze coming straight up the pipe from the E. It may be a while! Fyi, it's that typical cold wet mack night- maybe 60 degrees on the giant fridge that is lake michigan.
10-4 I will snap the pictures for sure! Enjoy the rage on the Island. Ohhhhhh one of them cold en's eh. It has been just a riot watching this race from home the last day and half. Kudos to all involved with all of the Coverage/Tracking/Tenders ect.
Can you see either boat from the East Side of the bridge??
Say hi to Mer. Good luck at the Nationals.
JH
#150
Posted 21 July 2008 - 05:56 AM
The question becomes, how long will it take them to cover this last stretch?
#151
Posted 21 July 2008 - 06:07 AM
#152
Posted 21 July 2008 - 06:09 AM
UPDATE: N/m its back, they're still right on top of each other...
#153
Posted 21 July 2008 - 06:17 AM
#154
Posted 21 July 2008 - 06:23 AM
Genuine Risk has just finished with line honors.
#155
Posted 21 July 2008 - 06:28 AM
All they have left are the five miles to the finishline.
#156
Posted 21 July 2008 - 07:01 AM
Alright, I'm fried. Gonna grab a shitty hotel, get the big videos loading, then pass the flock out. Thanks to all of you, especially the newbies, for the help and for watching. Tomorrow is gonna be a busy one.
#157
Posted 21 July 2008 - 07:12 AM
I frankly don't have a goddamned clue how GR slipped through. We were here the whole time, saw windquest without trouble, and were certainly here with binocs when GR shouldve been coming through. Nav lights perhaps?
Alright, I'm fried. Gonna grab a shitty hotel, get the big videos loading, then pass the flock out. Thanks to all of you, especially the newbies, for the help and for watching. Tomorrow is gonna be a busy one.
Clean - I don't know where you're planning to sit tomorrow but a really good vantage point would be right at the northmost point of Sleeping Bear Dunes. If you drive to Glen Arbor and then take the M-109/W Harbor Highway to Glen Haven, you have to take a right onto Glen Haven Rd (there's signs). You can park there and then walk out and there is a really tall dune right at the entrance to Sleeping Bear Bay. My ex-g/f has a house up there and that would probably provide some spectacular shots especially when the large packs come through. Just a thought....
#158
Posted 21 July 2008 - 07:15 AM
#159
Posted 21 July 2008 - 07:24 AM
Windquest has just finished. Approximately 45 minutes after GR.
And beat them on corrected time...
#160
Posted 21 July 2008 - 07:34 AM
We were just really close to there today - but tomorrow we've got to get to the Island to meet the boats coming in and hopefully find a boat to take us out to the bridge for some shots. We are incredibly beat - I was behind the wheel for fourteen hours today chasing boats. Just insane, but pretty fun knowing you all were watching.Clean - I don't know where you're planning to sit tomorrow but a really good vantage point would be right at the northmost point of Sleeping Bear Dunes. If you drive to Glen Arbor and then take the M-109/W Harbor Highway to Glen Haven, you have to take a right onto Glen Haven Rd (there's signs). You can park there and then walk out and there is a really tall dune right at the entrance to Sleeping Bear Bay. My ex-g/f has a house up there and that would probably provide some spectacular shots especially when the large packs come through. Just a thought....
Videos loading now - and here's a little bonus pic of Vincitore during one of their last races - thanks to usasail for the shot.
Attached Files
#161
Posted 21 July 2008 - 08:25 AM
In the meantime, here's a little video of us following the 70s after the start:
Here's more post-start up close with Windquest:
And a little Equation:
#162
Posted 21 July 2008 - 08:30 AM
#163
Posted 21 July 2008 - 08:35 AM
Not sure where you're looking on the tracker as far as links/pages go but you should check their system out.
Try http://charthorizon....google_view.php
There's plenty of info and glitz there which seems like what you like and want.
BTW, call me when you read this. We've gotta talk!
LZ
#164
Posted 21 July 2008 - 08:40 AM
#165
Posted 21 July 2008 - 08:45 AM
Still, it's an improvement over last year, and iBoat seems committed, so good on them, and good on CYC for making a deal with them to get it done. This stuff is really imperative for building interest in an event. We met some people who were actually crawling the Leelenau coast with cameras looking for the boats. They weren't sailors, and had simply heard about it in the news. Video of them later.
#166
Posted 21 July 2008 - 08:45 AM
Clean, GR Bridge time call in was at 2:02am and Windquest was at 2:31am.I frankly don't have a goddamned clue how GR slipped through. We were here the whole time, saw windquest without trouble, and were certainly here with binocs when GR shouldve been coming through. Nav lights perhaps?
You musta been paying the toll at that time...
LZ
#167
Posted 21 July 2008 - 09:25 AM
#168
Posted 21 July 2008 - 09:26 AM
#169
Posted 21 July 2008 - 09:28 AM
Seriously - we weren't even that delirious then, and we were looking as hard as humanly possible from every angle. Pisses me right off.Clean, GR Bridge time call in was at 2:02am and Windquest was at 2:31am.
You musta been paying the toll at that time...![]()
LZ
#171
Posted 21 July 2008 - 09:31 AM
Videos loading now - and here's a little bonus pic of Vincitore during one of their last races - thanks to usasail for the shot.
Hey Mr Clean - Let me correct your caption for the Vincitore photo - that was taken on their delivery to Chicago - at least that was the info I was given when we got our copy. You can see Vincitore being put back together again as soon as the pics are posted in the 2008 race photos.
http://www.chicagomackinac.com/2008/
and be sure to check the webcams once the sun comes back up - well, give me a few minutes to finish tweeking. Got rained out last night.
#172
Posted 21 July 2008 - 09:51 AM
The trickle of boats has begun for the morning.
#173
Posted 21 July 2008 - 10:15 AM
He will be going into the inspections slips on the middle camera.
#174
Posted 21 July 2008 - 10:30 AM
#175
Posted 21 July 2008 - 11:29 AM
Maybe you can help the sport and make suggestions on how to make it better or what you would like to see instead of complaining and just "disappointing yourself for the better part of 2 days".I have been watching this iboat Track for the better part of 2 days now. And before that, I tuned in occasionally for both Annapolis/Bermuda and Newport/Bermuda. Other than for the boat groupie, without a clue as to what really goes on at sea, the system is no better than what was available through the French Argos satellite system back in the late 80's and early 90's. What a disappointment...and mostly waste.
This is better than 90%+ of the distance events out there. PM me with suggestions and I'll be glad to pass it along.
I'm waiting to hear...
LZ
#176
Posted 21 July 2008 - 12:50 PM
#177
Posted 21 July 2008 - 01:17 PM
Maybe you can help the sport and make suggestions on how to make it better or what you would like to see instead of complaining and just "disappointing yourself for the better part of 2 days".
This is better than 90%+ of the distance events out there. PM me with suggestions and I'll be glad to pass it along.
I'm waiting to hear...
LZ
I was not complaining, merely reporting. Since you seek suggestions, let me suggest that whoever is working on the system engage someone like a Stan Honey to provide further development/improvement. As a start I believe there would be general consensus that a report, even if aged by an hour or two, showing all the boats in relative positions at a specific moment in time, would be an improvement over the current system in which all the boats are visible but none of the times and positions can be linked. If you want to go further, how about boat direction in degrees instead of by one of eight compass quadrants, true wind speed and direction and barometric pressure and trend. My guess is this wouldn't be so difficult to incorporate.
#178
Posted 21 July 2008 - 01:25 PM
I was not complaining, merely reporting. Since you seek suggestions, let me suggest that whoever is working on the system engage someone like a Stan Honey to provide further development/improvement. As a start I believe there would be general consensus that a report, even if aged by an hour or two, showing all the boats in relative positions at a specific moment in time, would be an improvement over the current system in which all the boats are visible but none of the times and positions can be linked. If you want to go further, how about boat direction in degrees instead of by one of eight compass quadrants, true wind speed and direction and barometric pressure and trend. My guess is this wouldn't be so difficult to incorporate.
I apologize, make that one of 16 compass points.
#179
Posted 21 July 2008 - 01:25 PM
I was not complaining, merely reporting. Since you seek suggestions, let me suggest that whoever is working on the system engage someone like a Stan Honey to provide further development/improvement. As a start I believe there would be general consensus that a report, even if aged by an hour or two, showing all the boats in relative positions at a specific moment in time, would be an improvement over the current system in which all the boats are visible but none of the times and positions can be linked. If you want to go further, how about boat direction in degrees instead of by one of eight compass quadrants, true wind speed and direction and barometric pressure and trend. My guess is this wouldn't be so difficult to incorporate.
+ add a link to the boats entry page
+ run the calculation on the handycap, with the projected time left from let's say the last 4 hrs VMG average, then compute postions.
#180
Posted 21 July 2008 - 02:30 PM
Great reporting, real time finishes, web cams and video, very fun for those not doing the race. Hats off to all those that put this together.
TM
#181
Posted 21 July 2008 - 02:34 PM
The Tracker isn't perfect. But it sure beats the old 45th call in posting board. Not that long ago you waited hours if you were at the island and days if you were back home for results.
Great reporting, real time finishes, web cams and video, very fun for those not doing the race. Hats off to all those that put this together.
TM
Just to be clear, I agree completely with your assertions. However, we can and should do better. The technology exists. Anything worth doing is worth doing well.
#182
Posted 21 July 2008 - 02:49 PM
Just to be clear, I agree completely with your assertions. However, we can and should do better. The technology exists. Anything worth doing is worth doing well.
I can't believe there hasn't been a "fuck off, newbie" yet.....maybe they are all on the water?
#183
Posted 21 July 2008 - 02:56 PM
#184
Posted 21 July 2008 - 02:58 PM
#185
Posted 21 July 2008 - 03:29 PM
What happened to Denali?
From the polar bears mouth.
"We blew our head stay at the splice and its a custom PBO stay and foil it takes about twenty days to proccess a new one so we had to drop harbor springs as well."
It sucks, they were in the lead.
#186
Posted 21 July 2008 - 03:30 PM
I can't believe there hasn't been a "fuck off, newbie" yet.....maybe they are all on the water?
Is this directed at me?
#187
Posted 21 July 2008 - 03:35 PM
merely an SA tradition....relaxIs this directed at me?
(besides nothing was directed at anyone, I was just expressing surprise that it hadn't happened)
#188
Posted 21 July 2008 - 03:55 PM
There are currently 7 boats docked and Defiance has just crossed the line.
#189
Posted 21 July 2008 - 03:57 PM
#190
Posted 21 July 2008 - 04:02 PM
Vincitore did finish about 11:00 am Michigan time. There was another boat about 20-25 minutes behind them. (I think - I was slacking & out shopping) I think it may have been ....... I will figure this out.
There are currently 7 boats docked and Defiance has just crossed the line.
I think the gun I heard around 11:30 was the gun at the Fort - unless someone didn't dock.... I will not leave the finish line again!!
#191
Posted 21 July 2008 - 04:04 PM
Anyone got a link for the J-120 start video? I can't seem to find it.
I am sure it is on this thread somewhere.
But we also have it posted at http://www.chicagoma...deo/farr395.php
It is labled Farr 395 & J/120
#192
Posted 21 July 2008 - 04:29 PM
#193
Posted 21 July 2008 - 04:48 PM
merely an SA tradition....relax
(besides nothing was directed at anyone, I was just expressing surprise that it hadn't happened)
Relax? Wow. You're suggesting this to me? You don't know me, and I have no idea who you are. Nice recovery though.
#195
Posted 21 July 2008 - 05:08 PM
any updates?
#196
Posted 21 July 2008 - 05:15 PM
http://charthorizon....ackinac/htdocs/
The CYC site... not so much.
CYC website seems to have died and gone to hell...
any updates?
#197
Posted 21 July 2008 - 05:22 PM
We are finally back up after a much-needed sleep. Much videos are on their way.
#198
Posted 21 July 2008 - 05:24 PM
If you need to link to the boat tracker, it's still up and running here:
http://charthorizon....ackinac/htdocs/
That data seems to be out of date as well. The finish times aren't coming in.
#199
Posted 21 July 2008 - 05:24 PM
#200
Posted 21 July 2008 - 05:29 PM
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