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#101 MR.CLEAN

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Posted 20 July 2008 - 06:38 PM

BTW - Mark M - we have that shirt for your guy - will give it to him on the island.



and stevedallas - thanks for the tip. We're headed to Pyramid Point.

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Posted 20 July 2008 - 06:38 PM

... The wife and I went hiking & kayaking there 2 weeks ago

Did you give up sailing?

What happened to your CatalinaS dream?

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Posted 20 July 2008 - 06:46 PM

Still not sure as to Denali's equipment failure yet...also, a report from Heartbreaker, Farr 40

"Just next to Inferno and Hot Lips - 7 knots BS, wind around 8 from 236.

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Posted 20 July 2008 - 06:50 PM

Some photos from the start are here as well. Mer's work will be up in a couple of hours.

Report from Nice Pair - bearing 024, 56 miles to go to South Manitou. Just passed Promo, Windancer is in sight as well. We're 10 miles off Big Point Sable, catching all the other sleds.

We've got a kite, full main, jib, wind is pretty thermal coming from 220-240 or so.

No decision as to go inside or outside just yet. We're just trucking man.

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Posted 20 July 2008 - 06:55 PM

Finally got the damned start videos done! Here they are...

Turbo Class:




Multihull 2:



And the final start - with Earth Voyager, the Gunboat, Nice Pair and more:



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Posted 20 July 2008 - 07:08 PM

From Baby J "There's a big gap now - we're all by ourselves. But - the beer is still ice cold and the beer is going down nicely!"

Report from Bora "About to roll Talisman. They're ours."

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Posted 20 July 2008 - 07:11 PM

I'm gonna sign off for a few minutes and let Mer edit and post her photos. Anyone that needs to talk to me can call me at 248-563-0657.

Thanks for watching, and please make sure to check out the unofficial, unauthorized, unlicensed, unapproved Chicago-Mackinac website at www.chicagomackinac.com - the webcams are running now, and they've got some fun stuff planned. Also, go buy some shit at Torresen Marine - The Sailboat Specialists on the Great Lakes and Worldwide.

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Posted 20 July 2008 - 08:05 PM

It is pretty trippy to be racing genuine risk to the manitous. Any analysis you have for me on our repsective VMG to pyramid point is appreciated. We are just past farwell mi on the 10, going 74 mph. Destination intended to be frankfort then the scenic highway northward, as far as we can, then back down and to the bridge.

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Posted 20 July 2008 - 08:17 PM

Very little breeze here in the middle of michigan, bakin' hot too. Sirius radio rocks.

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Posted 20 July 2008 - 08:24 PM

It's 4;20 - do you know where waldo is? Actually we're 70 miles from frankfort- I want those pics!

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Posted 20 July 2008 - 09:23 PM

The 2 lead boats apear to be at least 2 hours from Frankfort... That's ... well I'm not sure but I think your in Eastern Time so, that's 7pm your time. Plus, they are much further off the coastline, 6mi. Are you guys pulling a boat and putting in somewhere? Otherwise, I'd plant myself at the point near Frankfort. But you need a boat to get that money shot.

P.S..... I understand that the 2 lead boats on the iboat tracker are indeed not.

And fwiw..... I like the google maps iboat tracker better than the other one.

And And..... I got tired of waiting for vid yesterday so I took my son sailing for the first time on a dinghy. It was on my Contender and it was blowing. He said Dad, I see why your are addicted to this. I immediately turned the boat around and went in on a very good note. In any case, thanks for the vid.

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Posted 20 July 2008 - 10:51 PM

Those old J35's are doing pretty good from what I can see. One is not too far behind Merlin. What's up with her?

Looks like you better hustle Clean ;)

Looks like GR, Windquest and a couple others have gone by already. They're moving pretty good now.

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Posted 20 July 2008 - 11:14 PM

That GR sure is an amazing boat, the tracker shows it going right over the tip of North Manitou Island. Windquest's tracker seems to have died out

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Posted 20 July 2008 - 11:35 PM

Were now stopping at every overlook we can find to try to see the boats coming through the manitous, still no luck at whaleback mtn. Near leland. Feels like a bizarro scavenger hunt. Were going to miss the last ferry for sure. Reports from hellion on can can are of terrible breeze, impossible sailing.

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Posted 20 July 2008 - 11:48 PM

Were now stopping at every overlook we can find to try to see the boats coming through the manitous, still no luck at whaleback mtn. Near leland. Feels like a bizarro scavenger hunt. Were going to miss the last ferry for sure. Reports from hellion on can can are of terrible breeze, impossible sailing.


any word on the location of Earth Voyager? word from Nice Pair is they are 25 nm south of the manitou's as of 6:45 p.m. toledo time.

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Posted 20 July 2008 - 11:54 PM

Looks like your best shot would be from Leelanau State Park, The camp ground is right on the tip of "the little finger" From there you can see North Manitou and South Fox Islands.

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 12:23 AM

Looks like your best shot would be from Leelanau State Park, The camp ground is right on the tip of "the little finger" From there you can see North Manitou and South Fox Islands.



If you get to L. State Park, good luck getting the last ferry to the island. stayed there last year, beautiful place, but way off the beaten path. Great effort on the photo. The cocktail party at the Grand Hotel, has many "dock box" ladies. I suggest you forget the pic, and get to the land of horse!

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 12:47 AM

We found 'em- but its not the most exciting sight ever...on a bluff overlooking south manitou, we can see what looks like earth voyager headed on starboard gybe toward shore, but still a good 3 nm out and in the haze. Got some reports coming in soon as well, vids of genuine risk a speck on the horizon, etc. Since we're probably stuck here on the mainland, we might try some fugitive shit and walk out on the mackinac bridge to get the leader later tonight. If the wind holds they should be just 6 hours out I guess. Moon is pretty bright too.

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 01:06 AM

There is one heck of a cell about to hit the Island - hail and the whole bit. The weather radar also shows sporatic cells all over across northern Lake Michigan. We shall see who gets hit and who takes advantage of what they are given.

You can check out the weather conditions from the Chippewa on our webcams. (at least until it gets really dark :) )
http://www.chicagoma...om/2008/webcam/

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 01:16 AM

A report from peacefrog-
the flies suck, the fog sucks! It rolled back in about an hour ago. Had 2 close calls with a pickle fork coming from no where out of the fog. Just plugging along 125 apw 10 tws 6.6-7knots.

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 01:46 AM

Windquest is pulling ahead of GR , slightly more than 40 miles out from the finish. Looking at Denali's transponder I'm guessing it is in a car heading up to the island. Unless things shut down - a pretty fast race - not record breaking but certainly not slow.

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 02:04 AM

Windquest is pulling ahead of GR , slightly more than 40 miles out from the finish. Looking at Denali's transponder I'm guessing it is in a car heading up to the island. Unless things shut down - a pretty fast race - not record breaking but certainly not slow.


How can you tell Windquest is pulling ahead? The transponder positions are being taken at different times, and they are so close, it is hard to tell who is ahead.

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 02:38 AM

A report from peacefrog-
the flies suck, the fog sucks! It rolled back in about an hour ago. Had 2 close calls with a pickle fork coming from no where out of the fog. Just plugging along 125 apw 10 tws 6.6-7knots.


The flies sucked earlier in the week during the delivery too! Good times...

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 02:38 AM

Windquest is pulling ahead of GR , slightly more than 40 miles out from the finish. Looking at Denali's transponder I'm guessing it is in a car heading up to the island. Unless things shut down - a pretty fast race - not record breaking but certainly not slow.

How can you tell Windquest is pulling ahead? The transponder positions are being taken at different times, and they are so close, it is hard to tell who is ahead.

Please don't argue with BUSH SUPPORTER who, like his hero shrub, believes that he is "The Decider".

BUSH SUPPORTER'S 83 SECONDS OF FAME.

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 02:40 AM

There are more storms out there for sure, we just drove through one near charlevoix, and can see a hell of a light show out over the lake. Can anyone extrapolate GR's posi for an ETA at the bridge for us?

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 02:45 AM

How can you tell Windquest is pulling ahead? The transponder positions are being taken at different times, and they are so close, it is hard to tell who is ahead.

Please don't argue with BUSH SUPPORTER who, like his hero shrub, believes that he is "The Decider".

BUSH SUPPORTERS 83 SECONDS OF FAME


Jesus....Take it to PA will ya?

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 02:53 AM

Jesus....Take it to PA will ya?

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Old Bozo,

Please keep your religion out of politics.

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 02:55 AM

GP, take it elsewhere. This is your only warning.

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 03:01 AM

GP, take it elsewhere.

You got it, Mr. Clean.

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 03:03 AM

My guess is that GR is 1 hour 17 minutes to the bridge. WQ is 25 minutes behind. Based on the 9:02 CDT report. (don't hold me to this, I went to Art school)

Denali is losing all that time they made sitting waiting for the ferry. My guess is this is going to cost them big time. All that way and screwed by Scheppler's at the end.

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 03:04 AM

Kinda feels like we're in school... :lol:

So what's going on out there besides what we can see on the race tracker? Anyone?

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 03:07 AM

I'm curious to know where Earth Voyager is?

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 03:13 AM

Looks like a nasty squall over Sleeping Bear/Manitous right now.

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 03:15 AM

What happened to Denali?

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 03:22 AM

Hippie, gonzo and big country are trudging along at 8-10 knots in 14 or so from 200. Evolution and another 70 were gybing through the manitous at sunset when we saw them. We need to make tracks toward the bridge, its a real race now for us vs genuine risk and windquest, and Mer's in the ladies room of a gas station in charlevoix.

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 03:39 AM

, and Mer's in the ladies room of a gas station in charlevoix.


Thanks Clean, we really needed to know that!

Keep up the coverage though, it's fun watching a yacht race from the other side of the world.

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 03:43 AM

Clean, if you don't want to walk over the bridge, a good shot could be taken from the shore right by the bridge fudgie shop. there's usually good light there from the floodlights, and they have to take the center spire with their mast height.

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 03:44 AM

Thanks for tuning in podrick! Mers on the tracker right now, and other than GR the boats are seeming really slow. Maybe that storm sucked the breeze out of the straits. In any event, we think we should beat GR to the bridge by a little bit, and sinve the fog seems to have gone and the moon is big and fat, we may got some eerie moonlit tripod shots...at least until homeland security throws us off the bridge.

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 03:56 AM

Hippie, gonzo and big country are trudging along at 8-10 knots in 14 or so from 200. Evolution and another 70 were gybing through the manitous at sunset when we saw them. We need to make tracks toward the bridge, its a real race now for us vs genuine risk and windquest, and Mer's in the ladies room of a gas station in charlevoix.


Excellent coverage Clean! Trey shouting out from Cleveland/PIB (I-14 became a flower box way back when). Buy Pepe a beer for me at the pony. Fantastic job as always.

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 04:12 AM

"Sup trey! Our 14 is finally ready to sail, albeit with a slightly crooked rig ;)

Matt from gamera just called in, before his signal dropped he said "I know what's wrong with this race...we forgot the porn!"

Based on the latest, our brother Geff may very well make the 100th his first ever chi-mack win, and take the double this year. Go the cat!

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 04:14 AM

Photos from the start...more to come

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 04:25 AM

Damn that Vincitore is a fast boat

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 04:25 AM

Were now stopping at every overlook we can find to try to see the boats coming through the manitous, still no luck at whaleback mtn. Near leland. Feels like a bizarro scavenger hunt. Were going to miss the last ferry for sure. Reports from hellion on can can are of terrible breeze, impossible sailing.


Hope you waved to my parents.

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 04:32 AM

They should be in sight from the bridge...

Thanks, Mer for providing us with all the coverage. It's making missing this Mac a lot less painful. I'll be there next year (neck willing) and anticipate a few photos of me. You're doing a great job!

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 04:34 AM

We are under the bridge, and it is GLASS.

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 05:02 AM

We are under the bridge, and it is GLASS.


I love it...the last five miles are always the trickiest----! Keep up the great reports Clean. Will you be in Harbor? If so, I will see you there. I will be hanging out on a tender watching for a change :) Hope your doing well pal. EHood (pops) is on Windquest. Waiting for a phone call when they finish... Any updates??? Are GRisk and Windquest getting closer to each other, now that the breeze has shut off?

JHood

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 05:04 AM

GR seems to be increasing their lead.

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 05:22 AM

Hey juggy! Great to see you here bro. Unfortunately we can't make harbor- got to hightail it to marblehead to drive a viper 640 at their NA's thurs-sunday. Considering the lack of sleep I expect for then next two nights, I probably shouldn't bother trying to race. Make sure you send us some good shots from harbor k?
On the other side of the bridge now, and there is about 5 knots of breeze coming straight up the pipe from the E. It may be a while! Fyi, it's that typical cold wet mack night- maybe 60 degrees on the giant fridge that is lake michigan.

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 05:27 AM

Hey juggy! Great to see you here bro. Unfortunately we can't make harbor- got to hightail it to marblehead to drive a viper 640 at their NA's thurs-sunday. Considering the lack of sleep I expect for then next two nights, I probably shouldn't bother trying to race. Make sure you send us some good shots from harbor k?
On the other side of the bridge now, and there is about 5 knots of breeze coming straight up the pipe from the E. It may be a while! Fyi, it's that typical cold wet mack night- maybe 60 degrees on the giant fridge that is lake michigan.


10-4 I will snap the pictures for sure! Enjoy the rage on the Island. Ohhhhhh one of them cold en's eh. It has been just a riot watching this race from home the last day and half. Kudos to all involved with all of the Coverage/Tracking/Tenders ect.

Can you see either boat from the East Side of the bridge??

Say hi to Mer. Good luck at the Nationals.

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 05:56 AM

Genuine Risk is truly under the bridge and heading for the finish line.

The question becomes, how long will it take them to cover this last stretch?

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 06:07 AM

We definitely see a boat coming toward us now- we're on the bridge looking west and see a green bow light, most likely GR since we don't think we missed them. They're on starboard tack headed toward the U.P. Side.

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 06:09 AM

Anyone know what the status of Stripes and Evolution is? It seems Stripes tracker is down...


UPDATE: N/m its back, they're still right on top of each other...

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 06:17 AM

This is pretty damned funny- we're driving back and forth across the miles long mackinac bridge trying to time it so we're on the bridge when they cross below. 3 bucks a pop, and the toll booth operators don't know what to make of two bug-eyed folks and a bear-sized dog. No sign of windquest yet, assuming what we're seeing is gr.

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 06:23 AM

OK - I think you are seeing Windquest - Clean. You need a nap.

Genuine Risk has just finished with line honors.

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 06:28 AM

Windquest has just called in under the bridge.
All they have left are the five miles to the finishline.

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 07:01 AM

I frankly don't have a goddamned clue how GR slipped through. We were here the whole time, saw windquest without trouble, and were certainly here with binocs when GR shouldve been coming through. Nav lights perhaps?

Alright, I'm fried. Gonna grab a shitty hotel, get the big videos loading, then pass the flock out. Thanks to all of you, especially the newbies, for the help and for watching. Tomorrow is gonna be a busy one.

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 07:12 AM

I frankly don't have a goddamned clue how GR slipped through. We were here the whole time, saw windquest without trouble, and were certainly here with binocs when GR shouldve been coming through. Nav lights perhaps?

Alright, I'm fried. Gonna grab a shitty hotel, get the big videos loading, then pass the flock out. Thanks to all of you, especially the newbies, for the help and for watching. Tomorrow is gonna be a busy one.


Clean - I don't know where you're planning to sit tomorrow but a really good vantage point would be right at the northmost point of Sleeping Bear Dunes. If you drive to Glen Arbor and then take the M-109/W Harbor Highway to Glen Haven, you have to take a right onto Glen Haven Rd (there's signs). You can park there and then walk out and there is a really tall dune right at the entrance to Sleeping Bear Bay. My ex-g/f has a house up there and that would probably provide some spectacular shots especially when the large packs come through. Just a thought....

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 07:15 AM

Windquest has just finished. Approximately 45 minutes after GR.

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 07:24 AM

Windquest has just finished. Approximately 45 minutes after GR.


And beat them on corrected time...

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 07:34 AM

Clean - I don't know where you're planning to sit tomorrow but a really good vantage point would be right at the northmost point of Sleeping Bear Dunes. If you drive to Glen Arbor and then take the M-109/W Harbor Highway to Glen Haven, you have to take a right onto Glen Haven Rd (there's signs). You can park there and then walk out and there is a really tall dune right at the entrance to Sleeping Bear Bay. My ex-g/f has a house up there and that would probably provide some spectacular shots especially when the large packs come through. Just a thought....

We were just really close to there today - but tomorrow we've got to get to the Island to meet the boats coming in and hopefully find a boat to take us out to the bridge for some shots. We are incredibly beat - I was behind the wheel for fourteen hours today chasing boats. Just insane, but pretty fun knowing you all were watching.

Videos loading now - and here's a little bonus pic of Vincitore during one of their last races - thanks to usasail for the shot.

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 08:25 AM

We were looking through the long, long range shots Mer took at the Manitous when we saw Evolution. There was a boat motoring North with its main flaked on the boom. Too far to see, but way too late for Denali - any ideas?

In the meantime, here's a little video of us following the 70s after the start:




Here's more post-start up close with Windquest:



And a little Equation:




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Posted 21 July 2008 - 08:30 AM

And here's the Seagoon and some other Class 1 boats:




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Posted 21 July 2008 - 08:35 AM

Clean,

Not sure where you're looking on the tracker as far as links/pages go but you should check their system out.

Try http://charthorizon....google_view.php

There's plenty of info and glitz there which seems like what you like and want.

BTW, call me when you read this. We've gotta talk!

LZ

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 08:40 AM

Here's some fun from Genuine Risk, peeling to a Zero from a big kite after the start. That's your line honors winner for the 100th Mack.



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Posted 21 July 2008 - 08:45 AM

No worries Luiz. As I told you, I'm impressed that the iBoat guys did as well as they did, given this is the biggest ever tracking operation in a sailboat race. I still don't like the interface - it's sticky and choppy, and while there are lots of features, they bog it down pretty badly on anything but a superfast connection in my experience (lots over the past day...) That may be a function of the huge amounts of data they're getting, or it may just be that there is a lot more development left to go.

Still, it's an improvement over last year, and iBoat seems committed, so good on them, and good on CYC for making a deal with them to get it done. This stuff is really imperative for building interest in an event. We met some people who were actually crawling the Leelenau coast with cameras looking for the boats. They weren't sailors, and had simply heard about it in the news. Video of them later.

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 08:45 AM

I frankly don't have a goddamned clue how GR slipped through. We were here the whole time, saw windquest without trouble, and were certainly here with binocs when GR shouldve been coming through. Nav lights perhaps?

Clean, GR Bridge time call in was at 2:02am and Windquest was at 2:31am.

You musta been paying the toll at that time... :P

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 09:25 AM

Hey - we found Earth Voyager. They just called in their finish a few minutes ago.

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 09:26 AM

The pile-up inside the manitous is amazing right now. At one point, Natalie J was trying to roll Talisman, but now T is gone. It looks like Bora went outside the manitous - maybe not the call. However, inside might just be worse. It seems that nearly the entire multihull fleet (1 and 2) as well as the trailing half of the 70s and pretty much everyone in group 1 are all hanging out in there together. With ultra flat water, the boats are moving well (6-10 knots), but who knows if that channel will keep working - it sure has been known to shut off pretty much every goddamned year.

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 09:28 AM

Clean, GR Bridge time call in was at 2:02am and Windquest was at 2:31am.

You musta been paying the toll at that time... :P

LZ

Seriously - we weren't even that delirious then, and we were looking as hard as humanly possible from every angle. Pisses me right off.

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 09:31 AM

Here's your overall finish so far.

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 09:31 AM

Videos loading now - and here's a little bonus pic of Vincitore during one of their last races - thanks to usasail for the shot.


Hey Mr Clean - Let me correct your caption for the Vincitore photo - that was taken on their delivery to Chicago - at least that was the info I was given when we got our copy. You can see Vincitore being put back together again as soon as the pics are posted in the 2008 race photos.
http://www.chicagomackinac.com/2008/
and be sure to check the webcams once the sun comes back up - well, give me a few minutes to finish tweeking. Got rained out last night.

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 09:51 AM

Equation has called in 1/2 mile east of the Bridge.

The trickle of boats has begun for the morning.

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 10:15 AM

Equation has made it to the finish line - I could even see it on the top webcam.

He will be going into the inspections slips on the middle camera.

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 10:30 AM

I have been watching this iboat Track for the better part of 2 days now. And before that, I tuned in occasionally for both Annapolis/Bermuda and Newport/Bermuda. Other than for the boat groupie, without a clue as to what really goes on at sea, the system is no better than what was available through the French Argos satellite system back in the late 80's and early 90's. What a disappointment...and mostly waste.

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 11:29 AM

I have been watching this iboat Track for the better part of 2 days now. And before that, I tuned in occasionally for both Annapolis/Bermuda and Newport/Bermuda. Other than for the boat groupie, without a clue as to what really goes on at sea, the system is no better than what was available through the French Argos satellite system back in the late 80's and early 90's. What a disappointment...and mostly waste.

Maybe you can help the sport and make suggestions on how to make it better or what you would like to see instead of complaining and just "disappointing yourself for the better part of 2 days".

This is better than 90%+ of the distance events out there. PM me with suggestions and I'll be glad to pass it along.

I'm waiting to hear...

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 12:50 PM

The 70's have started to arrive. Evolution has finished and docked, closely followed by Stripes.

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 01:17 PM

Maybe you can help the sport and make suggestions on how to make it better or what you would like to see instead of complaining and just "disappointing yourself for the better part of 2 days".

This is better than 90%+ of the distance events out there. PM me with suggestions and I'll be glad to pass it along.

I'm waiting to hear...

LZ


I was not complaining, merely reporting. Since you seek suggestions, let me suggest that whoever is working on the system engage someone like a Stan Honey to provide further development/improvement. As a start I believe there would be general consensus that a report, even if aged by an hour or two, showing all the boats in relative positions at a specific moment in time, would be an improvement over the current system in which all the boats are visible but none of the times and positions can be linked. If you want to go further, how about boat direction in degrees instead of by one of eight compass quadrants, true wind speed and direction and barometric pressure and trend. My guess is this wouldn't be so difficult to incorporate.

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 01:25 PM

I was not complaining, merely reporting. Since you seek suggestions, let me suggest that whoever is working on the system engage someone like a Stan Honey to provide further development/improvement. As a start I believe there would be general consensus that a report, even if aged by an hour or two, showing all the boats in relative positions at a specific moment in time, would be an improvement over the current system in which all the boats are visible but none of the times and positions can be linked. If you want to go further, how about boat direction in degrees instead of by one of eight compass quadrants, true wind speed and direction and barometric pressure and trend. My guess is this wouldn't be so difficult to incorporate.


I apologize, make that one of 16 compass points.

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 01:25 PM

I was not complaining, merely reporting. Since you seek suggestions, let me suggest that whoever is working on the system engage someone like a Stan Honey to provide further development/improvement. As a start I believe there would be general consensus that a report, even if aged by an hour or two, showing all the boats in relative positions at a specific moment in time, would be an improvement over the current system in which all the boats are visible but none of the times and positions can be linked. If you want to go further, how about boat direction in degrees instead of by one of eight compass quadrants, true wind speed and direction and barometric pressure and trend. My guess is this wouldn't be so difficult to incorporate.


+ add a link to the boats entry page
+ run the calculation on the handycap, with the projected time left from let's say the last 4 hrs VMG average, then compute postions.

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 02:30 PM

The Tracker isn't perfect. But it sure beats the old 45th call in posting board. Not that long ago you waited hours if you were at the island and days if you were back home for results.

Great reporting, real time finishes, web cams and video, very fun for those not doing the race. Hats off to all those that put this together.

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 02:34 PM

The Tracker isn't perfect. But it sure beats the old 45th call in posting board. Not that long ago you waited hours if you were at the island and days if you were back home for results.

Great reporting, real time finishes, web cams and video, very fun for those not doing the race. Hats off to all those that put this together.

TM



Just to be clear, I agree completely with your assertions. However, we can and should do better. The technology exists. Anything worth doing is worth doing well.

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 02:49 PM

Just to be clear, I agree completely with your assertions. However, we can and should do better. The technology exists. Anything worth doing is worth doing well.


I can't believe there hasn't been a "fuck off, newbie" yet.....maybe they are all on the water?

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 02:56 PM

Looks like the CYC site is down. Anyone on the Island with some finish reports? The webcam just showed a finish, looked like Vincitore but not sure.

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 02:58 PM

Can't say I know much about the history of boat tracking, except in the past, boat owners would have to pay $100 or so to have a tracker on board. Hats off to CYC, Torresen Marine and the other sponsors for making this happen for all the boats! This forum should be a great way to get ideas for tracking future races.

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 03:29 PM

What happened to Denali?


From the polar bears mouth.

"We blew our head stay at the splice and its a custom PBO stay and foil it takes about twenty days to proccess a new one so we had to drop harbor springs as well."

It sucks, they were in the lead.

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 03:30 PM

I can't believe there hasn't been a "fuck off, newbie" yet.....maybe they are all on the water?



Is this directed at me?

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 03:35 PM

Is this directed at me?

merely an SA tradition....relax
(besides nothing was directed at anyone, I was just expressing surprise that it hadn't happened)

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 03:55 PM

Vincitore did finish about 11:00 am Michigan time. There was another boat about 20-25 minutes behind them. (I think - I was slacking & out shopping) I think it may have been ....... I will figure this out.

There are currently 7 boats docked and Defiance has just crossed the line.

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 03:57 PM

Anyone got a link for the J-120 start video? I can't seem to find it.

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 04:02 PM

Vincitore did finish about 11:00 am Michigan time. There was another boat about 20-25 minutes behind them. (I think - I was slacking & out shopping) I think it may have been ....... I will figure this out.

There are currently 7 boats docked and Defiance has just crossed the line.



I think the gun I heard around 11:30 was the gun at the Fort - unless someone didn't dock.... I will not leave the finish line again!!

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 04:04 PM

Anyone got a link for the J-120 start video? I can't seem to find it.



I am sure it is on this thread somewhere.

But we also have it posted at http://www.chicagoma...deo/farr395.php
It is labled Farr 395 & J/120

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 04:29 PM

Nice Pair is 15 miles from the finish in light air.

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 04:48 PM

merely an SA tradition....relax
(besides nothing was directed at anyone, I was just expressing surprise that it hadn't happened)



Relax? Wow. You're suggesting this to me? You don't know me, and I have no idea who you are. Nice recovery though.

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 04:59 PM

MORE PHOTOS FROM THE START ON TORRESEN MARINE'S RACE WEBSITE

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 05:08 PM

CYC website seems to have died and gone to hell...

any updates?

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 05:15 PM

If you need to link to the boat tracker, it's still up and running here:
http://charthorizon....ackinac/htdocs/

The CYC site... not so much.

CYC website seems to have died and gone to hell...

any updates?



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Posted 21 July 2008 - 05:22 PM

Just spoke to Luiz and he assures us that the finishes on CYC will be fixed shortly. I think this is the first time I've ever seen Yachtscoring go down.

We are finally back up after a much-needed sleep. Much videos are on their way.

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 05:24 PM

If you need to link to the boat tracker, it's still up and running here:
http://charthorizon....ackinac/htdocs/


That data seems to be out of date as well. The finish times aren't coming in.

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 05:24 PM

thanks for the tracker link. i closed it and couldn't find it again.

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 05:29 PM

Our good pal Brian Janney from Quantum San Diego shows us around Windquest before the race.





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