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#1 K38BOB

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Posted 20 March 2009 - 08:12 PM

BAMA's 30th annual double handed race to the Farralones is rapidly approaching. Saturday March 28th. Who's in?

It's an easy race course with only one mark to round.
http://www.sfbama.or.../dhf/index.html

BAMA's 30th Doublehanded Farallones Race is Saturday, March 28. Sailing instructions are online and can be faxed for entry until Friday, March 27, at 8 p.m. After that, deliver the signed entry to the race deck at Golden Gate YC before 7:45 a.m. on race day. Payment can be made online at the BAMA store. Have a great race! Skippers Meeting Wed March 25 at Oakland YC

Cheers and have a great race!
Bob

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Posted 21 March 2009 - 01:26 AM

It's an easy race course with only one mark to round.

Famous last words.... I hope we don't get smashed for the 'easy course' comment.... bad ju-ju.

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Posted 21 March 2009 - 01:31 AM

It's an easy race course with only one mark to round.

Famous last words.... I hope we don't get smashed for the 'easy course' comment.... bad ju-ju.


no shit...now I gotta buy Sweet Okole and knock on it all the way around bird shit rock.

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Posted 21 March 2009 - 11:38 PM

I'm entered, it's one of my favorite races.

Rounding the Farallone Island is SO much fun, especially when there is a swell running.
"Should we bear off now? Or should we tack?" Yup, it's an interesting place.

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Posted 22 March 2009 - 07:03 AM

Rounding the Farallone Island

"Should we bear off now? Or should we tack?" Yup, it's an interesting place.


Truer words.... truer words....

Great race!

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Posted 23 March 2009 - 06:38 PM

any forecast predictions? trending for the week shows nw 20-30

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Posted 23 March 2009 - 06:48 PM

any forecast predictions? trending for the week shows nw 20-30




I would guess that you will have decent base solely on the fact that I will not be doing it this year and it has been proven that any race I enter will turn into a light up wind beat!! :(

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Posted 23 March 2009 - 06:51 PM

any forecast predictions? trending for the week shows nw 20-30


Warming trend with more sun !!!
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Posted 24 March 2009 - 04:50 PM

Looks good so far:

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NW WINDS 15 TO 25 KT. WIND WAVES 3 TO 6 FT. NW SWELL 3 TO 8 FT.

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Posted 24 March 2009 - 08:13 PM

Looks good so far:

SAT
NW WINDS 15 TO 25 KT. WIND WAVES 3 TO 6 FT. NW SWELL 3 TO 8 FT.


Check out the websites below for forecasted weather conditions.

SF Bay Area General Forecast

http://www.weather.c...m=sixten_topnav

NWS buoys closest to the sailing route to the Farallones:

http://www.ndbc.noaa...p?station=46026
http://www.ndbc.noaa...p?station=46214

Farallones forecast (using NWS experimental system that lets you select the location of interest):

http://forecast.weat...l...nit=0&lg=en

SF Bay forecast for start/finish:

http://www.wrh.noaa....p...&zone=PZ530

Golden Gate currents forecast for Mar 28

http://tbone.biol.sc...de/tideshow.cgi :

2009-03-28 05:53 PDT -4.72 knots Max Ebb
2009-03-28 07:00 PDT Sunrise
2009-03-28 07:45 PDT Moonrise
2009-03-28 09:29 PDT 0.00 knots Slack, Flood Begins
2009-03-28 12:30 PDT 3.65 knots Max Flood
2009-03-28 15:50 PDT -0.00 knots Slack, Ebb Begins
2009-03-28 18:21 PDT -3.02 knots Max Ebb
2009-03-28 19:29 PDT Sunset
2009-03-28 21:22 PDT 0.00 knots Slack, Flood Begins
2009-03-28 22:15 PDT Moonset

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Posted 25 March 2009 - 03:39 AM

I spoke with Gary Helms today (chair of the BAMA Farallones, etc) and he got a call yesterday from the Coast Guard. They said that BAMA needed to reapply for a permit to race Saturday. They sent him the forms which he filled out and got right back to them. They said they would 'review' it and would get back to him FRIDAY ! They never said the original issued permit was revoked nor gave him anything in writing that states that. No explanation given to him on what they are up to. Not good if they pull the plug on the race - this organization works for US and they are way overstepping the line if they cancel the race.

Gary will announce at the skippers meeting tomorrow that everyone will need to check the bama.org website Friday night to see if there is even a race.

I plan on going out Saturday, take my own time...... they can take away the race committee but not the course! -g

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Posted 25 March 2009 - 04:55 AM

I spoke with Gary Helms today (chair of the BAMA Farallones, etc) and he got a call yesterday from the Coast Guard. They said that BAMA needed to reapply for a permit to race Saturday. They sent him the forms which he filled out and got right back to them. They said they would 'review' it and would get back to him FRIDAY ! They never said the original issued permit was revoked nor gave him anything in writing that states that. No explanation given to him on what they are up to. Not good if they pull the plug on the race - this organization works for US and they are way overstepping the line if they cancel the race.

Gary will announce at the skippers meeting tomorrow that everyone will need to check the bama.org website Friday night to see if there is even a race.

I plan on going out Saturday, take my own time...... they can take away the race committee but not the course! -g


WTF------

Big Brother is watching.

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Posted 25 March 2009 - 02:18 PM

april fool's is next week, but this still has to be a joke

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Posted 25 March 2009 - 03:52 PM

april fool's is next week, but this still has to be a joke

The permit situation will be covered at the skippers meeting tonight...... wish I were kidding. Cross your fingers that they just reissue it.

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Posted 25 March 2009 - 04:26 PM

april fool's is next week, but this still has to be a joke


Didn't the race run on April 1st a couple of years ago and BAMA listed it on their web site as the "Around the Aleutians" race? And the race t-shirts had the "race instructions"-- under the big red bridge, round the island, and back-- printed on them upside down so you could read them while wearing the shirt? They have a history of humor. But this latest bit doesn't strike me as a joke. The Coast Guard tends to be pretty humorless.

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Posted 25 March 2009 - 04:43 PM

Didn't the race run on April 1st a couple of years ago and BAMA listed it on their web site as the "Around the Aleutians" race?

Yes, still have the upsidedown shirt. Again, no joke on about this one.

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Posted 25 March 2009 - 04:48 PM

Didn't the race run on April 1st a couple of years ago and BAMA listed it on their web site as the "Around the Aleutians" race? And the race t-shirts had the "race instructions"-- under the big red bridge, round the island, and back-- printed on them upside down so you could read them while wearing the shirt? They have a history of humor. But this latest bit doesn't strike me as a joke. The Coast Guard tends to be pretty humorless.


yes they did. this CG hard-on thing is bizarre though as the dhf has a long history of participation and a good safety track record. once again it would seem the pussification of america continues and our govt takes another bite in the neverending quest to protect us from ourselves. it truly never ends...

if you get a chance can you please update us tomorrow greg? i am out of town on business and will not make the skips mtg

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Posted 25 March 2009 - 05:00 PM

the dhf has a long history of participation and a good safety track record

Well actually the DHF has had more issues than any other race in the Gulf of the Farallones. 4+ deaths over the years (last one in 1999 - the other in a gale in the 80's I recall). The DHF has always been in the spring when the weather can be quite harsh. All that aside, the race has a lot of entries year after year and is a very popular event. Cross your fingers.

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Posted 25 March 2009 - 08:04 PM

I plan on going out Saturday, take my own time...... they can take away the race committee but not the course! -g


Right. And isn't that why, in part, we like it so much, the risks? Hell, my wife gets nervous anytime I get anywhere near the brown buildings on Clement Ave. Also, might it not be simply unfortunate coincidence that the DHF has the record it does when the SSS and YRA also run Farallones and other coastal races in the spring? Haven't people died during summer beer can races in the estuary? Shun the nanny state.

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Posted 25 March 2009 - 08:20 PM

yes they did. this CG hard-on thing is bizarre though as the dhf has a long history of participation and a good safety track record. once again it would seem the pussification of america continues and our govt takes another bite in the neverending quest to protect us from ourselves. it truly never ends...


they're just trying to protect the orcas

nuke the whales

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Posted 26 March 2009 - 03:21 AM

Race committee says the race is on......

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Posted 26 March 2009 - 03:06 PM

Race committee says the race is on......


..apparently a new supplemental form/permit to the general/historical YRA permit is now required for offshore races. Its so the CG and the RC are more specifically in contact in advance of the race. Seems like a good thing since at least 3 shorthanded races in last year have had CG assistance.

One trophy for the DHF is the Madigan trophy..I was on the course surfing an ULDB when the helo flew the course and saved one of the crew..before eprirb / handheld VHF. They got a brief sos before the water killed the battery- its amazing the CG got there in time with so little info. Anything we can do to make their job easier (and save tax dollars supporting our sport) I think is a good thing!
Have a great race!!

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Posted 26 March 2009 - 07:30 PM

Be glad it's not today:

"This Afternoon: NW wind 28 to 32 kt, with gusts as high as 40 kt. Mostly sunny. WNW swell 8 feet at 10 seconds. Wind waves around 7 ft."

It's supposed to be nice for Saturday, then getting breezy again Saturday night into Sunday.


As usual, I'll wait for the singlehanded version. Like beating your head against a wall - it feels so good when you stop . . .

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Posted 26 March 2009 - 08:02 PM

It's supposed to be nice for Saturday, then getting breezy again Saturday night into Sunday.


The high raters and RC will appreciate that......in the evening..

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Posted 27 March 2009 - 02:40 AM

I'll be there with my Santa Cruz 27 - just as soon as I replace the busted traveler car from the DH Lightship. I bought a new one two days ago, tried to place it on the track - nope, Harken changed track styles at some point. Tomorrow, I get to rip up my old traveler track and put down a new one.

As a related aside, how many plan on wearing a wetsuit and/or have a backup rudder? I've read a few accounts now of people wearing wetsuits - at all common??

-phillip

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Posted 27 March 2009 - 03:54 AM

I'll be there with my Santa Cruz 27 - just as soon as I replace the busted traveler car from the DH Lightship. I bought a new one two days ago, tried to place it on the track - nope, Harken changed track styles at some point. Tomorrow, I get to rip up my old traveler track and put down a new one.

As a related aside, how many plan on wearing a wetsuit and/or have a backup rudder? I've read a few accounts now of people wearing wetsuits - at all common??

-phillip



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E-rudder- oh hell yea

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Posted 27 March 2009 - 02:36 PM

Sat
NW winds 10 to 20 kt. Wind waves 1 to 4 ft. NW swell 7 to 10 ft at 9 seconds.




hmmm...

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Posted 27 March 2009 - 08:46 PM

As a related aside, how many plan on wearing a wetsuit and/or have a backup rudder? I've read a few accounts now of people wearing wetsuits - at all common??

Wetsuit is very uncommon. Seen a few Mustang survival suits and some of us carry a full on survival 'gumby' suit. Most just get wet with their plain old foulies. I doubt very few have emergency rudders for this short race - even those that have them, including myself, don't carry it for every race.

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Posted 27 March 2009 - 11:37 PM

My absolute favorite day race! I'll be thinking of ou guys while we are racing on Puget Sound up here. (If you can smell the rock from upwind, you're probably a bit too close.) My trouble has always been wanting to set the kite too soon instead of reaching up first. Not great for finishing position, but a GREAT ride.
Cheers,
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Posted 28 March 2009 - 09:21 PM

The wind is quite light outside the Golden Gate Bridge.
Vessel Traffic called because they thought some
boats anchored in the shipping channel, uhh, no(?).

There are a few starting line
pictures online now.


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Posted 29 March 2009 - 01:07 AM

Talked to a few racers at the dock today, all 3 boats returned due to lack of wind, fog rolling in and lots of shipping traffic with low visability. I'm sure others did the course, anxious to hear about it.
mm

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Posted 29 March 2009 - 01:13 AM

I saw 2 Moores coming in around 14:00 I assume they dropped out PL was out taking Pictures and the SC 50 was out also. I was on the beach hanging out with the kids and eating smoked salmon from the farmers market!! :P

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Posted 29 March 2009 - 02:29 AM

Any sign of finishers or results. From the photo's looks like Tiberwolf was entered - glad to see David back out after shoulder surgery

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Posted 29 March 2009 - 02:35 AM

I dodn't see any one and it looks like light wind inside.



http://cams.exploratorium.edu:8010/





Edit..............here come some one who is it??

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Posted 29 March 2009 - 02:45 AM

I dodn't see any one and it looks like light wind inside.



http://cams.exploratorium.edu:8010/





Edit..............here come some one who is it??


I had two finishers, then they took the webcam away from me.

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Posted 29 March 2009 - 02:48 AM

I dodn't see any one and it looks like light wind inside.



http://cams.exploratorium.edu:8010/





Edit..............here come some one who is it??


I had two finishers, then they took the webcam away from me.


Someone is finishing under a genny and main. Looks tres slow.

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Posted 29 March 2009 - 02:48 AM

I dodn't see any one and it looks like light wind inside.



http://cams.exploratorium.edu:8010/





Edit..............here come some one who is it??


I had two finishers, then they took the webcam away from me.




1.20 out from control

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Posted 29 March 2009 - 02:53 AM

Hummmm no spins <_<

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Posted 29 March 2009 - 03:23 AM

I don't get it. 46026 is showing 21 gusting to 27 with 9.5 ft seas at 12.7 seconds. That should make for a pretty quick ride. At 4 pm it was blowing 18 in Richmond. Ochen strana.

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Posted 29 March 2009 - 04:28 AM

Bummer about the conditions for the DHF. I had a great day racing the last Encinal mid-winter north of TI. We had about 12 knots for the first race and near 20 for the second one.

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Posted 29 March 2009 - 04:33 AM

I don't get it. 46026 is showing 21 gusting to 27 with 9.5 ft seas at 12.7 seconds. That should make for a pretty quick ride. At 4 pm it was blowing 18 in Richmond. Ochen strana.


The outside bouys were showing good pressure early this AM too. Peter followed the fleet in the ebb out to Point Bonita this AM where they parked. By 2:00 a large number were STILL parked near Bonita
and a few started to give in. Peter reported seen a number of racers abandoning between 3:00 PM and 4:00PM...

Viisted the Southbay to try to see the plane crash at San Carlos that my driver witnessed driving up 101 this AM, Saw White Dove racing the Seq event..huh? Visited the High school event at the StFYC,
caught some finishers in Raccon Straight from the SFYC Cup, went to RYC's Big Dinghy and the caught some windysurfers at TI.. very windy late in the Berkeley flats and South Bay..Go figure...

I got a new tooth brush.. well it's new to me... :blink:




I'm thinking I picked a good year to skip it!!


Then again probably not!!!

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Posted 29 March 2009 - 06:15 AM

Heat Wave, J-80, capsized in the San Francisco Entrance Channel, near buoys 7 & 8.

Both sailors were recovered by the Coast Guard and they were treated by EMS CG personnel
at the SF Crissy Field station for hypothermia. They were not hospitalized. Fortunately, handheld
VHF communication from the vessel allowed the Coast Guard to be alerted.

Preliminary data is the entrance channel had breaking waves, as reported by finishers after dark.

BAMA Race Committee

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Posted 29 March 2009 - 06:18 AM

Thanks for the update!!

Glad to hear all safe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

how many boat still out there??


Looks like the wind is picking up.

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Posted 29 March 2009 - 06:23 AM

how many boat still out there??


One boat is left on course: Galaxsea, Nauticat 44

BAMA Race Committee, 23:22 hr

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Posted 29 March 2009 - 06:28 AM

how many boat still out there??


One boat is left on course: Galaxsea, Nauticat 44

BAMA Race Committee, 23:22 hr



Thanks for your hard work!!!

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Posted 29 March 2009 - 04:12 PM

I don't get it. 46026 is showing 21 gusting to 27 with 9.5 ft seas at 12.7 seconds. That should make for a pretty quick ride. At 4 pm it was blowing 18 in Richmond. Ochen strana.

There was enough breeze to keep moving from the start to Bonita. Then it started to lighten. Lumpy conditions made or tough work, especially for the multihulls that started before us. We were one of the lead boats when we pulled the plug after 3 hours of going 1-3k but getting nowhere against the flood a few miles past Bonita.... our GPS track drew a nice large figure-8. Most of the fleet was still trying to get to Bonita when we slowly came back in with the flood. Fog was getting real heavy.

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Posted 29 March 2009 - 04:32 PM

I don't get it. 46026 is showing 21 gusting to 27 with 9.5 ft seas at 12.7 seconds. That should make for a pretty quick ride. At 4 pm it was blowing 18 in Richmond. Ochen strana.

There was enough breeze to keep moving from the start to Bonita. Then it started to lighten. Lumpy conditions made or tough work, especially for the multihulls that started before us. We were one of the lead boats when we pulled the plug after 3 hours of going 1-3k but getting nowhere against the flood a few miles past Bonita.... our GPS track drew a nice large figure-8. Most of the fleet was still trying to get to Bonita when we slowly came back in with the flood. Fog was getting real heavy.


Ditto. After 3 hours of bobbing around in circles at pt bonita we pulled the plug too. Tons of boats were stacked up along the tide line like driftwood where there was almost zero wind and heavy chop. I lost track of how many times I got wacked in the sholder by the boom as the boat slotted in the chop. Dodging other boats with no stearage was tricky too. Not a lot of fun. The only redemtion was the nice chute run we had on the way home once we got back under the gate where there was plenty of sea breeze.

I'm curious to know how many people stuck it out and finished. Much respect for those that did.

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Posted 29 March 2009 - 05:17 PM

gybed on the backside at 6, finished at 9:30

horrid angle, very challenging day

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Posted 29 March 2009 - 05:27 PM

6+ hours from the start to get to Muir Beach, and 7+ hours to get around the rock pile and back. The ride back from the Farallones was worth the admission ticket! Glad we were past the "cresting" swells the time the sun went down, though.

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Posted 29 March 2009 - 06:43 PM

gybed on the backside at 6, finished at 9:30

horrid angle, very challenging day


don't really feel all that bad about calling it at noon. I was drunk by 6 and asleep at 9:30

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Posted 29 March 2009 - 07:14 PM

We were the first boat out of the swirly stuff and into the Northwesterly, at around 1:30.
The Newick tri, which did really well in the light and lumpy, beat us to the Island by about 25 minutes.
We rounded about 4:00, finished around 7:30, after getting stuck hard in a weird transition zone from Mile rock to the Bridge.
Way in was 20 to 30 knots from about 120 TWA and BIG waves with a #3 and main.

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Posted 29 March 2009 - 08:14 PM

We were on the Mumm 30, and finished just behind Trevor... Took FOREVER to break away from the coast, but was well worth the ride in...

Shook the reef out just after the island, and never dropped below 10knts with sustained 14's and 15's with a jib and main, with BIG waves. Peak speed was 17.5knts. we had one wave break in the back of the boat, but all in all was some of the most fun I've had for a long time. :lol: :lol:

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Posted 29 March 2009 - 08:21 PM

Results are up.
Eleven Finishers.
Native, a 38' tri
Moore24
Olson 30
J-100

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Posted 29 March 2009 - 08:29 PM

don't really feel all that bad about calling it at noon. I was drunk by 6 and asleep at 9:30


lol. slacker indeed







peter wins last year and 2nd this year. nice work

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Posted 29 March 2009 - 10:17 PM

Link: Heatwave Write-up

"The keel did fall off. We were going really fast down a very large wave with a reefed main and the jib."



Heat Wave, J-80, capsized in the San Francisco Entrance Channel, near buoys 7 & 8.

Both sailors were recovered by the Coast Guard and they were treated by EMS CG personnel
at the SF Crissy Field station for hypothermia. They were not hospitalized. Fortunately, handheld
VHF communication from the vessel allowed the Coast Guard to be alerted.

Preliminary data is the entrance channel had breaking waves, as reported by finishers after dark.

BAMA Race Committee



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Posted 30 March 2009 - 04:10 AM

some snaps...

dead air and lump at bonita
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4 miles in 6 hrs
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Posted 30 March 2009 - 04:13 AM

the rocks aproach

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exiting
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Posted 30 March 2009 - 04:17 AM

more exiting

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casa de science

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Posted 30 March 2009 - 08:50 PM

Nice writeup in lectronic latitude

http://www.latitude3...o...0&dayid=251

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Posted 02 April 2011 - 03:48 PM

Nice weekend to prep the boat for April 9th 2011 DHF

SA Forum on DHF 2011 w weather link

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