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[Jim Donovan]

Kevin,
Did you go with synthetic shrouds? If so, what kind & brand?
Thanks

Steel shrouds on Kevins mast at launch; working on synthetics now

[OJ O'Connell]

A beautiful boat. well done kevin and jim

[Kevin Farrar]

Well I have sort of been taking a post launch breather. However, today with the days getting longer and somewhat milder temperatures I went over and checked the boat. I bailed a little water out of it as the block that was sealing the mast opening had blown off with the 50 knot plus winds this past week. It's time to start the "TO DO LIST".
I have not decided whether or not to go to Charleston and if we were to go we would still be in the "fitting it out mode" and there is an important regatta about 25 miles east of here in June.
Kevin

[Kevin Farrar]

http://youtu.be/tkkGg6zEhBQ

Pithy sailing in light breeze on day one.

[Kevin Farrar]

http://youtu.be/AcpNu7ZPhY8

Really Light Air

[Ryley]

Nice.

[spich]

Like

[Winchgrinder69]

Well I can't wait to see what she'll do on a close reach in 15-18 knots of air , especially after seeing her realize 4-5 knots of boatspeed in 4-5 knots of air with virtually no wake ! Whoweeeee! You go Kevin and many thanks to Jim Donovan----- Winchgrinder

[Christian]

Well I have sort of been taking a post launch breather. However, today with the days getting longer and somewhat milder temperatures I went over and checked the boat. I bailed a little water out of it as the block that was sealing the mast opening had blown off with the 50 knot plus winds this past week. It's time to start the "TO DO LIST".
I have not decided whether or not to go to Charleston and if we were to go we would still be in the "fitting it out mode" and there is an important regatta about 25 miles east of here in June.
Kevin

If I were you I probably would ditch Charleston. Racing outside the harbor is not so fun on a boat like yours and the daily commute to the racecourse is a bitch. Been there - done that - I like CRW but would not even consider it unless I was racing one of the small OD boats on the harbor

[dolphinmaster]

Well I have sort of been taking a post launch breather. However, today with the days getting longer and somewhat milder temperatures I went over and checked the boat. I bailed a little water out of it as the block that was sealing the mast opening had blown off with the 50 knot plus winds this past week. It's time to start the "TO DO LIST".
I have not decided whether or not to go to Charleston and if we were to go we would still be in the "fitting it out mode" and there is an important regatta about 25 miles east of here in June.
Kevin

If I were you I probably would ditch Charleston. Racing outside the harbor is not so fun on a boat like yours and the daily commute to the racecourse is a bitch. Been there - done that - I like CRW but would not even consider it unless I was racing one of the small OD boats on the harbor

C, I like it when you make sense, but that's some whiny ass shit there. Sailing is sailing. Was racing outside there in small boats in the 70s, (MORC).

[Jerryd]

Well I have sort of been taking a post launch breather. However, today with the days getting longer and somewhat milder temperatures I went over and checked the boat. I bailed a little water out of it as the block that was sealing the mast opening had blown off with the 50 knot plus winds this past week. It's time to start the "TO DO LIST".
I have not decided whether or not to go to Charleston and if we were to go we would still be in the "fitting it out mode" and there is an important regatta about 25 miles east of here in June.
Kevin

Hey Kevin,

CRW is the place to showcase the boat. I'm sure many here would appreciate seeing it there. I'm only a few hours away and would be available to crew for you on sort notice if you do decide

[Ryley]

Will he be able to launch a 6.5' draft boat there? It seems without a lifting keel there are issues, but I've never been so I'm probably talking out of my ass.

[Christian]

Will he be able to launch a 6.5' draft boat there? It seems without a lifting keel there are issues, but I've never been so I'm probably talking out of my ass.

Yes you can - at high tide at CYC

[Christian]

Well I have sort of been taking a post launch breather. However, today with the days getting longer and somewhat milder temperatures I went over and checked the boat. I bailed a little water out of it as the block that was sealing the mast opening had blown off with the 50 knot plus winds this past week. It's time to start the "TO DO LIST".
I have not decided whether or not to go to Charleston and if we were to go we would still be in the "fitting it out mode" and there is an important regatta about 25 miles east of here in June.
Kevin

If I were you I probably would ditch Charleston. Racing outside the harbor is not so fun on a boat like yours and the daily commute to the racecourse is a bitch. Been there - done that - I like CRW but would not even consider it unless I was racing one of the small OD boats on the harbor

C, I like it when you make sense, but that's some whiny ass shit there. Sailing is sailing. Was racing outside there in small boats in the 70s, (MORC).

There is no whiny ass in what i said. CRW will suck for racing a GP26 - a long commute to sail against 30-40 foot leadmines in coastal slop. That is not my idea of fun. I personally got a sportboat class together a few years ago for CRW and while it was certainly better than racign against the leadmines it just wasn't fun compared to the cost and effort in bringing the boat there with the associated costs. You might notice that there hasn't been a "mixed bigger sportboat" class there since. I would do CRW any day on one of the smaller sportboats that get to sail on the harbor.

[dolphinmaster]

Well I have sort of been taking a post launch breather. However, today with the days getting longer and somewhat milder temperatures I went over and checked the boat. I bailed a little water out of it as the block that was sealing the mast opening had blown off with the 50 knot plus winds this past week. It's time to start the "TO DO LIST".
I have not decided whether or not to go to Charleston and if we were to go we would still be in the "fitting it out mode" and there is an important regatta about 25 miles east of here in June.
Kevin

If I were you I probably would ditch Charleston. Racing outside the harbor is not so fun on a boat like yours and the daily commute to the racecourse is a bitch. Been there - done that - I like CRW but would not even consider it unless I was racing one of the small OD boats on the harbor

C, I like it when you make sense, but that's some whiny ass shit there. Sailing is sailing. Was racing outside there in small boats in the 70s, (MORC).

There is no whiny ass in what i said. CRW will suck for racing a GP26 - a long commute to sail against 30-40 foot leadmines in coastal slop. That is not my idea of fun. I personally got a sportboat class together a few years ago for CRW and while it was certainly better than racign against the leadmines it just wasn't fun compared to the cost and effort in bringing the boat there with the associated costs. You might notice that there hasn't been a "mixed bigger sportboat" class there since. I would do CRW any day on one of the smaller sportboats that get to sail on the harbor.

Yes, in the perfect world where we all get to go OD sailing, stay inside. I'll be there. but the GP isn't OD and I think those guys should be encouraged to get out there and send that thing. It's supposed to be fast, it's supposed to be stable, it's supposed to eat up bigger machines, I say go get'em and tell us how it went back on the beach there at Patriot's Point. Take your dinghy gear though fellows.

[Jim Donovan]

Well I have sort of been taking a post launch breather. However, today with the days getting longer and somewhat milder temperatures I went over and checked the boat. I bailed a little water out of it as the block that was sealing the mast opening had blown off with the 50 knot plus winds this past week. It's time to start the "TO DO LIST".
I have not decided whether or not to go to Charleston and if we were to go we would still be in the "fitting it out mode" and there is an important regatta about 25 miles east of here in June.
Kevin

If I were you I probably would ditch Charleston. Racing outside the harbor is not so fun on a boat like yours and the daily commute to the racecourse is a bitch. Been there - done that - I like CRW but would not even consider it unless I was racing one of the small OD boats on the harbor

C, I like it when you make sense, but that's some whiny ass shit there. Sailing is sailing. Was racing outside there in small boats in the 70s, (MORC).

There is no whiny ass in what i said. CRW will suck for racing a GP26 - a long commute to sail against 30-40 foot leadmines in coastal slop. That is not my idea of fun. I personally got a sportboat class together a few years ago for CRW and while it was certainly better than racign against the leadmines it just wasn't fun compared to the cost and effort in bringing the boat there with the associated costs. You might notice that there hasn't been a "mixed bigger sportboat" class there since. I would do CRW any day on one of the smaller sportboats that get to sail on the harbor.

Yes, in the perfect world where we all get to go OD sailing, stay inside. I'll be there. but the GP isn't OD and I think those guys should be encouraged to get out there and send that thing. It's supposed to be fast, it's supposed to be stable, it's supposed to eat up bigger machines, I say go get'em and tell us how it went back on the beach there at Patriot's Point. Take your dinghy gear though fellows.

The rating system used for racing against larger "slower" boats is a key in making the choice. PHRF is probably the most likely choice?

[Turd Sandwich]

Racing outside in a 26' boat sucks. Been there done that. Tripp 26's were the first class to get the boot from the inside when the O.D. racing went big time. Makes for a very long day and it sucks to be pretty much the last boat home with 5 m24's tied up to your dock spot. Need some boat work no party for you. Wind in your face coming home no party for you. Racing 40' leadmines with a GP26 ouside in 9-14 knots no trophy for you and if you do get a light or heavy air day the race PRO will finish you upwind just to make damn sure.

OD outside maybe. Big boat outside sure. 4hp outboard sportie fuck that

[Murphness]

Racing outside in a 26' boat sucks. Been there done that. Tripp 26's were the first class to get the boot from the inside when the O.D. racing went big time. Makes for a very long day and it sucks to be pretty much the last boat home with 5 m24's tied up to your dock spot. Need some boat work no party for you. Wind in your face coming home no party for you. Racing 40' leadmines with a GP26 ouside in 9-14 knots no trophy for you and if you do get a light or heavy air day the race PRO will finish you upwind just to make damn sure.

OD outside maybe. Big boat outside sure. 4hp outboard sportie fuck that

At 2200#'s I think a 4 hp should be more then adequate to push the boat at hull speed or more regardless of some chop or wind.

HTFU people...Sometimes you have to sub comfort for balls to wall excitement and fun...Put some foulies on and send it!

[Ryley]

Racing outside in a 26' boat sucks. Been there done that. Tripp 26's were the first class to get the boot from the inside when the O.D. racing went big time. Makes for a very long day and it sucks to be pretty much the last boat home with 5 m24's tied up to your dock spot. Need some boat work no party for you. Wind in your face coming home no party for you. Racing 40' leadmines with a GP26 ouside in 9-14 knots no trophy for you and if you do get a light or heavy air day the race PRO will finish you upwind just to make damn sure.

OD outside maybe. Big boat outside sure. 4hp outboard sportie fuck that

At 2200#'s I think a 4 hp should be more then adequate to push the boat at hull speed or more regardless of some chop or wind.

HTFU people...Sometimes you have to sub comfort for balls to wall excitement and fun...Put some foulies on and send it!

you mean like sailing an Elliott 770 88 miles from long island around block and back in October in 30 knot winds and 6-8' seas? Been there, done that, got the T-shirt

[dolphinmaster]

Racing outside in a 26' boat sucks. Been there done that. Tripp 26's were the first class to get the boot from the inside when the O.D. racing went big time. Makes for a very long day and it sucks to be pretty much the last boat home with 5 m24's tied up to your dock spot. Need some boat work no party for you. Wind in your face coming home no party for you. Racing 40' leadmines with a GP26 ouside in 9-14 knots no trophy for you and if you do get a light or heavy air day the race PRO will finish you upwind just to make damn sure.

OD outside maybe. Big boat outside sure. 4hp outboard sportie fuck that

At 2200#'s I think a 4 hp should be more then adequate to push the boat at hull speed or more regardless of some chop or wind.

HTFU people...Sometimes you have to sub comfort for balls to wall excitement and fun...Put some foulies on and send it!

What Murph said !

[tamaozy]

With all this bitching and moaning Kevin will be hard pressed to find some crew. So I offer myself up as the sacrificial lamb to do the hard yards against all these bigger boats in the big bad ocean. Kevin, I will happily rock up for a ride if you need!!!! Im already halfway there.!!!!

[Prova]

Hey Kevin: CONGRATULATIONS!!!

That's how you eat the elephant!! One bite at a time.

Enjoy it man!

By the way I spent the winter building a new rudder for my squirl. Holy crap is it a different boat from when you drove it. It is so wonderful. We're looking forward to a great summer.

[Jerryd]

With all this bitching and moaning Kevin will be hard pressed to find some crew. So I offer myself up as the sacrificial lamb to do the hard yards against all these bigger boats in the big bad ocean. Kevin, I will happily rock up for a ride if you need!!!! Im already halfway there.!!!!

Too late! I already made the offer a few days ago and I'm closer!

[Heriberto]

The rating system used for racing against larger "slower" boats is a key in making the choice. PHRF is probably the most likely choice?

There will be an HPR class there for a handful of the 40' boats which although much larger, have similar performance attributes. That said, looking at the way the HPR treats small boats, that might not be better than phrf. HPR wants a much heavier, much more powerful boat at this size range. The HPR base boat at 7.9 meters (with minimal forward overhang), from which they assess penalties and credits, has a target disp of 1250kg, target beam of 3 meters, target freeboard of 1 meter, target draft of 2 meters, target rig height of 12.5 meters. All in all, a much bigger 26-footer, that isn't legal tow width and is more expensive to race.

Jim, I know you are swamped, but a phone call or email from you to Bill Lee or Jim Teeters regarding boats at this size range would have an awful lot of clout. I just don't think it is on their radar screen. The parameters aren't even scaled down from the Carkeek boats, I'm not sure where they come from.

[Jerryd]

Kevin,

What's your rating looking like for Block Island?

[Ryley]

The rating system used for racing against larger "slower" boats is a key in making the choice. PHRF is probably the most likely choice?

There will be an HPR class there for a handful of the 40' boats which although much larger, have similar performance attributes. That said, looking at the way the HPR treats small boats, that might not be better than phrf. HPR wants a much heavier, much more powerful boat at this size range. The HPR base boat at 7.9 meters (with minimal forward overhang), from which they assess penalties and credits, has a target disp of 1250kg, target beam of 3 meters, target freeboard of 1 meter, target draft of 2 meters, target rig height of 12.5 meters. All in all, a much bigger 26-footer, that isn't legal tow width and is more expensive to race.

Jim, I know you are swamped, but a phone call or email from you to Bill Lee or Jim Teeters regarding boats at this size range would have an awful lot of clout. I just don't think it is on their radar screen. The parameters aren't even scaled down from the Carkeek boats, I'm not sure where they come from.

Right now Kevin's boat is registered in PHRF. With a projected rating around 69 and based on some of the other boats registered, that'd either make him scratch boat among the express 37s and 10r's, or "slow" boat with the Melges 32s and 1d35s. So far only one 111 registered. Unfortunately the boats he'd rate most even with, the J109s, have their own class with 10 already registered. Hope my circle's close enough to watch these guys a bit.

[Left Hook]

Ryley, entries are nowhere near close to being finished. It's way too early to start speculating about divisions or class breaks.

Also your circle will not be close enough to watch any other circle.

[Ryley]

Ryley, entries are nowhere near close to being finished. It's way too early to start speculating about divisions or class breaks.

Also your circle will not be close enough to watch any other circle.

I really wasn't speculating on class breaks, I was pointing out that Kevin's boat will rate lower than a Beneteau 10R and Express 37 and higher than a Melges 32, J111, and 1D35. I might have also pointed out that there are 10 J109s registered, which maybe I'm jumping the gun but seems like enough for an OD start.

[Kevin Farrar]

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=ZbymVcEoLGs

Another somewhat blury video taken on day one. Not much breeze.
Kevin

[tamaozy]

Kevin, have you been sailing that vessel of yours, any good pics or video yet.  Havent heard much and am interested to hear and see how it has been going.

[Kevin Farrar]

Launching tomorrow along with it's first race. We now have a ship's Go Pro so Video soon. Kevin

[B.Wilkinson]

Hey Kevin-  What phrf rating did you end up getting??

 

Cant wait for tomorrow night, see you out there!

[Mr Zog]

Hey Kevin-  What phrf rating did you end up getting??

Looks like 69

 

https://docs.google....ratch052213.pdf

[bloodshot]

the GP26 looked slick out there last night.  too bad it was a sufferfest of a race.