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[Day-Sailer]

Here some nice shots from the swiss sportboat scene (Onyx, Esse, Platu25, Ufo, Dolphin 81)

http://picasaweb.goo...UriStierCup2009

found on the web.

[schoonerman]

A Viper JUST sold to an owner in Switzerland. Not sure where's he's sailing.

[ultraracer613um]

How about the boat that's sportin' the chick on the sail.. now that's sponorship! Wonder what they'd say if it showed up in the states ;-) Ed - you need to get those guys to the sportboat world champhiship of the world!

Went to a hot air balloon event in Europe a few years ago... this was my favorite

How about a set of rags sportin' some sort of S.A. thong.. I like it!

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[Elliot7]

Cool shots...love the sails on SUI010...l think the guys on SUI012 gotta little ripped off thou....

[sos]

And we wonder why there is a lack of participation in sailing in this country. We need more boats like that.

[steveromagnino]

And we wonder why there is a lack of participation in sailing in this country. We need more boats like that.

quite a few of the shots are I think of a Longztse (thompson 650/680 derivative) - some great range of boats there including a few wired boats, some racks....great to see.

[notallthere]

what is an x-37 doing in the mix though?!

[Day-Sailer]

Here some other picture, this are from the lake of zurich, the other were taken on the lake of uri.

http://www.zsv.info/...3-9/index50.htm

[Gingerbread]

what is an x-37 doing in the mix though?!

racing against the Platu?

[steveromagnino]

what is an x-37 doing in the mix though?!

racing against the Platu?

absolute classic.

[schoonerman]

Here some other picture, this are from the lake of zurich, the other were taken on the lake of uri.

http://www.zsv.info/...3-9/index50.htm

someone needs to 'splain to these boys that it's just not fast to bury the racks

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[The Black Pearl]

Think I saw these guys heading out last Sudnay. I was in Switzerland and coming donw from Stoos. Do you know which lake they were on? Reason for interested is I will be relocating to Switzerland in a few years and was stoked to see all the SBs out

[Shaw-650]

wires on the T830....... tre cool.........

[Andraz Seascape18]

Also one Seacape18 (www.seascape18.com) in Tennwil. Hopefully few more until end of year.

[fullsail]

wires on the T830....... tre cool.........

did you see this one?:

Christian

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[TocToc]

Think I saw these guys heading out last Sudnay. I was in Switzerland and coming donw from Stoos. Do you know which lake they were on? Reason for interested is I will be relocating to Switzerland in a few years and was stoked to see all the SBs out

the first gallery is from the urnersee, a part of lake lucerne. one of the best places to sail in central europe ;-)
fotos from the 2006 regatta: Uristier 2006

the second gallery is from the lake zurich, not very famous for sailing ...


swissT780

[Day-Sailer]

the second gallery is from the lake zurich, not very famous for sailing ...

oh that hurts, the lake of zurich isn't so bad, we had lot of good windy days this year....

[FlyingScozzies]

Great photos of some great looking boats.
Sportboat sailing is obviously popular in Switzerland.
There seems to be trapeze on a lot of different boats. Do the local rules allow that?

[quasi-expert]

Great photos of some great looking boats.
Sportboat sailing is obviously popular in Switzerland.
There seems to be trapeze on a lot of different boats. Do the local rules allow that?

a lot of the OD (Joker, Streamline, ASSO 99) and development classes (all kinds of Liberas) have been using traps for quite a bit of time.
Those boats were designed with traps so most of the wires were not retrofitted. Would exclude a lot of boats if traps weren't allowed and rated.

[oldensloh]

U20 in Switzerland.

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[ians]

I think the only boat on lac leman that isnt a sport boat, is a Surprise.

[Day-Sailer]

I think the only boat on lac leman that isnt a sport boat, is a Surprise.

and a Surprise isn't a sportboat?

[TocToc]

I think the only boat on lac leman that isnt a sport boat, is a Surprise.

it is a U20, check the sticker, a Surprise looks more like this:



but I'm with you, a Surprise is not a sportboat, it's too old, too heavy, too less sailarea, no asym, etc... but still a good boat (sailed a lot on Surprise)

swissT780

[trucdesign]

There is something new in a swiss shed...that will mix in the swiss fleet

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[GybeSet®]

the chines are a givaway truc

it's one of yours and plywood !!?

[trucdesign]

the chines are a givaway truc

it's one of yours and plywood !!?

Yes Gybe,

my design and swiss manufacture.

plywood, wings and everything... 6,9 meters long.

[fullsail]

Truc
I guess it is a new design of yours.
Do you have renderings to show?

Christian

[trucdesign]

voilà

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[CazzaRanda]

so the leeward rack swings up when the load is on the windward one? Smart! Was it done before or is it a new concept?

Cazza

voilà

[trucdesign]

so the leeward rack swings up when the load is on the windward one? Smart! Was it done before or is it a new concept?

Cazza

voilà

It's new for me, still have to work it out properly but we have time, as you see in the pic he's still building the hull.
This hull shape can heel upwind and still go fast, so there is the need to have some clearance on the leeward rack

[fullsail]

Looks like a little bigger version of Velivolo.
Nice.

Christian.

[msprick]

Hi,

sorry that the leeward rack is up is not new. it was a must in the rules of the class libera since 20 years i think.

best from germany,

markus

[trucdesign]

Looks like a little bigger version of Velivolo.
Nice.

Christian.

Yes it is 1m longer but same beam, so the shape is much cleaner.
It has a bigger bulb too (200 kg) and wider wings ( we'll go really wide, something around 4 m )

[trucdesign]

Hi,

sorry that the leeward rack is up is not new. it was a must in the rules of the class libera since 20 years i think.

best from germany,

markus

You dont have to be sorry markus. So it was a good solution 20 years ago and it is a good solution for us now.

cheers

Paolo

[Day-Sailer]

Here some new pictures from the swiss sportboat scene
http://picasaweb.goo...ct7Bachaucup02#

not a lot of wind we had for this race.
14 Onxy, 12 Esses and 5 Dynamic started for five up down races.

[Ego Ergo]

I've been lurking over these boats for years. The next work trip to that side of the planet and I'm there.

I have always been torn between the Onyx and Esse. Slim sexy beast vs power to burn. Don't really need to compare since they both have great one design classes, but hey.

The jib twist trim for the Onyx gives me pause. Is it just that set of holes in the clew, or have people set up the jib halyard/cunningham to do the job under load?

[trucdesign]

it's coming

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[fullsail]

Nice and what about the specs?

Christian

[trucdesign]

length 6,9 m
beam 2,2 m / wings 3,5 m
weight 500 kg
ballast 200 kg
draft 2 m

[plaanaa]

Very cool, keep updating and pics coming

Remember to paint rudders and keel orange

[lickety-split]

man I like what you draw in flat panel boats, they look fantastic.

work of art - keep us posted!

[K9u20]

I like the Blu 30 which is from Switzerland, I think. Simple design with self tacking jib. Just add a bow prod. I think only one was built. Anyone know where it is or sailed against it ?

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[trucdesign]

new pics

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[Mojounwin]

Looking good Truc, do you have a website with more pics?

Cheers
Mojo

[Boatzilla]

Here some new pictures from the swiss sportboat scene
http://picasaweb.goo...ct7Bachaucup02#

not a lot of wind we had for this race.
14 Onxy, 12 Esses and 5 Dynamic started for five up down races.

Wow awesome boats! I'm going to have to look up some of these designs. This one is looking like it's on the brink...

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[trucdesign]

Looking good Truc, do you have a website with more pics?

Cheers
Mojo

Sorry Mojo no site, these are the pics the builder is giving me step by step during the building

[on the breeze]

new pics

Nice Design TRuc
any idea on costs????

really like the lines

[trucdesign]

new pics

Nice Design TRuc
any idea on costs????

really like the lines

Thank OTB
This is the first one, so we'll have a detailed building budget when it hit the water. It is something between 10000 and 15000 euros (it is in switzerland).
By now consider 1000 for the plans, about the same for the plywood, 200 for the lead, about 40 kg epoxy, light glass + some carbon for the fin.
So the hull is quite cheap, the not so cheap item is the rig, it has a big impact on the budget.
It is up to your wallet as there are many options: alu vs carbon mast, new vs second hand, exotic sail material vs dacron, you can do it cheap or spend a lot of money.

[trucdesign]

Progress from Switzerland, it's coming together slowly but nicely
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[quasi-expert]

Progress from Switzerland, it's coming together slowly but nicely

every home built in switzerland seems to take its time (this one, T780,...)
but the result is usually a piece of art!

[trucdesign]

Progress from Switzerland, it's coming together slowly but nicely

every home built in switzerland seems to take its time (this one, T780,...)
but the result is usually a piece of art!

Yes I'm sure he's building with lot of care and love, so the result will be nice.

[Day-Sailer]

What a great weekend, specially Sunday 4 hours wind between 4-6Beaufort (Lake Zuerich)
http://bit.ly/N0huYB