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post Nov 4 2009, 11:14 AM
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post Nov 4 2009, 01:14 PM
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Oh sure... his BMWO team loses a mast and Franck just goes off sailing...pfft! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Should be fun to watch. Good on Stan Honey for getting another wack at the record. And with Thomas Coville on board you have a prodigous amount of talent in that boat.
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post Nov 4 2009, 02:25 PM
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Damn what a skilled group. But why do they need a World Champion Match Racer (Bruno Jeanjean) for ???? Is BP5 on standby too (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) ?
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post Nov 4 2009, 02:53 PM
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QUOTE (LeoV @ Nov 4 2009, 06:25 AM) *
Damn what a skilled group. But why do they need a World Champion Match Racer (Bruno Jeanjean) for ???? Is BP5 on standby too (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) ?


Not yet on stand-by from their website.

If Cammas' routing his good, he may stand a chance to go on the WR holders list, for a time or longer, whatever BPV does, not a bad move to start early.

PS: with Caraes from Orange attempts, Le Peutrec, Ravussin etc... it certainly is a star studded crew.

PPS: 50 days from Nov. 5th is way before February 8th (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Nov 4 2009, 05:15 PM
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Just saw that Lemonchois was on board too...definitely an all-star crew.

M - good luck to them
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post Nov 4 2009, 11:05 PM
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No No No
it s not a TJV attempt
just a training session & crew selection for next VOR campaign...

becauz of limitations on sailing days on any VOR70, they just took this old fashionned tri !
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post Nov 4 2009, 11:11 PM
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latest update on twitter says they set off on thursday: - http://twitter.com/cammas_groupama

http://www.cammas-groupama.com/en/courses/...es_verne_08.jsp
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post Nov 4 2009, 11:38 PM
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• Franck Cammas, Watch leader - helmsman, skipper
• Fred Le Peutrec, Watch leader - helmsman, operational head of Groupama 3
• Stève Ravussin, Watch leader - helmsman
• Lionel Lemonchois, Helmsman
• Thomas Coville, Helmsman
• Loic Le Mignon, Helmsman
• Ronan Le Goff, Bowman (No.1)
• Bruno Jeanjean, Bowman (No.1)
• Jacques Caraës, Bowman (No.1)
• Stan Honey, Navigator

What are the typical crew roles on such a boat/navigation? Why is everyone either helmsman or bowman?
Are the bowmen also trimmers? Are there many sail changes during a record attempt?
How are the watches typically organized during a RTW?

C.
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post Nov 4 2009, 11:50 PM
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QUOTE (Clovis @ Nov 5 2009, 12:38 AM) *
• Franck Cammas, Watch leader - helmsman, skipper
• Fred Le Peutrec, Watch leader - helmsman, operational head of Groupama 3
• Stève Ravussin, Watch leader - helmsman
• Lionel Lemonchois, Helmsman
• Thomas Coville, Helmsman
• Loic Le Mignon, Helmsman
• Ronan Le Goff, Bowman (No.1)
• Bruno Jeanjean, Bowman (No.1)
• Jacques Caraës, Bowman (No.1)
• Stan Honey, Navigator

What are the typical crew roles on such a boat/navigation? Why is everyone either helmsman or bowman?
Are the bowmen also trimmers? Are there many sail changes during a record attempt?
How are the watches typically organized during a RTW?

C.


Doing the math, it looks like it is three watches of three. Maybe three hour watches? Stan is on no set schedule but floats through every watch.

I am guessing that one person drives, and the other two trim main and head sail. If sail changes are required I bet that it is a two-watch exercise. But the apparent wind goes so far forward on these boats that this is a genoa-to-code-sail-to-genoa sail change scenario.
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post Nov 5 2009, 09:39 AM
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Hmm, I think sail changes is a 3 watch affair... And watches overlap eachother, so you have standby crew. At least that was last time if my memory still is trustworthy.
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post Nov 5 2009, 04:28 PM
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Thank you for the answers!

C.
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post Nov 5 2009, 04:39 PM
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QUOTE (Clovis @ Nov 4 2009, 11:38 PM) *
What are the typical crew roles on such a boat/navigation? Why is everyone either helmsman or bowman?


IIRC, from reading about these beasts, they don't really trim. They set the sails and the helm steers to the trim. But you have a hand on the sheets for emergency big dumps.
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post Nov 5 2009, 04:39 PM
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Groupama 3 crossed the starting line off Ushant at 3pm 50mn 22s UT
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post Nov 5 2009, 04:56 PM
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NIce, another thing to follow the next 50 days... or even 49 ?
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post Nov 5 2009, 05:52 PM
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QUOTE (LeoV @ Nov 5 2009, 08:56 AM) *
NIce, another thing to follow the next 50 days... or even 49 ?



Heard Cammas on radio this morning , 48 days (IIRW) would make it for his birthday, he said that was a good dream to have.
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post Nov 5 2009, 09:39 PM
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Incredible crew, the sailing equivalent of a rock supergroup. How do they keep it together?
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post Nov 5 2009, 11:01 PM
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looking forward to following the guys, hopefully there'll be more reports from the boat this time (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

what's the word on Banque Populaire V having a crack at the JV?
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post Nov 5 2009, 11:21 PM
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It looks like Coville isn't taking a third crack at the solo record this year, then.
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post Nov 6 2009, 12:30 AM
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QUOTE (Genealex @ Nov 5 2009, 09:39 PM) *
Incredible crew, the sailing equivalent of a rock supergroup. How do they keep it together?



Keep the really big egos in separate watches. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Nov 6 2009, 02:11 AM
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I think you've got the watches wrong.

I see:

Floating
• Franck Cammas, Watch leader - helmsman, skipper
• Stan Honey, Navigator

Watch one.
• Fred Le Peutrec, Watch leader - helmsman, operational head of Groupama 3
• Stève Ravussin, Watch leader - helmsman
• Lionel Lemonchois, Helmsman
• Loic Le Mignon, Helmsman
• Ronan Le Goff, Bowman (No.1)
• Bruno Jeanjean, Bowman (No.1)
• Jacques Caraës, Bowman (No.1)

Watch two.
• Thomas Coville, Helmsman
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post Nov 6 2009, 07:19 AM
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QUOTE (LeoV @ Nov 5 2009, 05:56 PM) *
NIce, another thing to follow the next 50 days... or even 49 ?


haha, EXACTLY!
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post Nov 6 2009, 07:22 AM
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QUOTE (Scarecrow @ Nov 6 2009, 03:11 AM) *
I think you've got the watches wrong.

I see:

Floating
• Franck Cammas, Watch leader - helmsman, skipper
• Stan Honey, Navigator

Watch one.
• Fred Le Peutrec, Watch leader - helmsman, operational head of Groupama 3
• Stève Ravussin, Watch leader - helmsman
• Lionel Lemonchois, Helmsman
• Loic Le Mignon, Helmsman
• Ronan Le Goff, Bowman (No.1)
• Bruno Jeanjean, Bowman (No.1)
• Jacques Caraës, Bowman (No.1)

Watch two.
• Thomas Coville, Helmsman


(IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Nov 6 2009, 07:32 AM
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QUOTE (Jazz Freak @ Nov 6 2009, 12:01 AM) *
looking forward to following the guys, hopefully there'll be more reports from the boat this time (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

what's the word on Banque Populaire V having a crack at the JV?


Bidégorry said that from the start BP V was planning to go on standby around the 15th of November and that he intends to stick to this plan.
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post Nov 6 2009, 11:40 AM
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Found the tracking on geovoile. Even the Cammas-groupama site had the link wrong.

http://cammas-groupama.geovoile.com/julesverne2009/?lg=en

enjoy!
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post Nov 6 2009, 01:25 PM
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QUOTE (Scarecrow @ Nov 6 2009, 02:11 AM) *
I think you've got the watches wrong.

I see:

Floating
• Franck Cammas, Watch leader - helmsman, skipper
• Stan Honey, Navigator

Watch one.
• Fred Le Peutrec, Watch leader - helmsman, operational head of Groupama 3
• Stève Ravussin, Watch leader - helmsman
• Lionel Lemonchois, Helmsman
• Loic Le Mignon, Helmsman
• Ronan Le Goff, Bowman (No.1)
• Bruno Jeanjean, Bowman (No.1)
• Jacques Caraës, Bowman (No.1)

Watch two.
• Thomas Coville, Helmsman


I just spit my tea all over my desk. Well played.
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