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Ishmael
post Nov 13 2009, 02:55 AM
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QUOTE (ozzie @ Nov 12 2009, 06:13 PM) *
I didn't start this thread to beat up on big boats (even if it is fun sometimes) The message I am getting is that it is best to sail what you have and enjoy it for it's strengths and try to fix most its weaknesses. I am glad that no one said "Ozzie you are fucking crazy to take that boat offshore"
We will give this boat a try and let you know how it works out.

In the words of Mick Jagger "You can't always get what you want but If you try sometimes you just might find you get what you need"

Ozzie


One of the greatest beat tracks in rock, in my opinion. The way Charlie shuffles into that syncopation is so tasty.

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Have a great time and sail safe. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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A mear Paps
post Nov 13 2009, 09:00 AM
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QUOTE (Joli @ Nov 12 2009, 10:16 PM) *
Seems like some one needs to speak for those sailing larger boats. We like our boat, it sails great, it's pretty, it carries all the gear we wish to carry, it's extremely comfortable and it's a tough boat. After almost 10 years of ownership we are very happy with it and knowing what we now know we would still have made the purchase. Is it the right boat for everyone? No, but it's the right boat for us.


Sorry Joli didnt mean to give "big boats" a hard time. Bigger is always better if you can afford it to a point. Just sayin you can get by with less.


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Joli, as a kid, the C&C 61 Sorcery was a serious lust object for me, purposeful and sleek, a truly great looking boat. I get a kick that you and Mrs. Joli are out cruising one of those beauties.


You too can have one, and for less than $900,000.00...

C&C 61

It's a beautiful boat, but it has been on the market for a while, and will stay on the market for a long time at the asking price. It has already come down in price once or twice. Go ahead, make an offer.


Gee, thanks for hinking of me Ish, and that's a beautiful rebuild, but the Loser family is already in a committed relationship with a blue sloop. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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How could you be unfaithful to her!!
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post Nov 13 2009, 10:44 AM
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What is it ?
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post Nov 13 2009, 12:22 PM
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Cruisin, that's lovely. Looks like a Hinkley SW 43 maybe?

Paps, no worries, sometimes Joli feels big and ostentatious but it sure is a nice sailing boat and thats really what we like about her. It is just a wonderful cruising boat. Simple, quick and tough.

Oz, all in good fun. There are days I miss pushing a boat out of the dock and hoisting the main and working in and out of the marina under sail. I was ready to go cruising with a much smaller boat we owned at the time but was vetoed.

And, like others have said there sure seem to be a lot of people that buy more boat then they can handle financially, physically, and with inadaquate skill sets to run the boat but hey, if ya have the cash......

Ish, the 61 on the west coast was sent to Bruckman for a total rebuilt and although the layout is not to my taste Bruckman surely did a fantastic job. Funny story, first time that boat was painted here after it had come from France. The yard sprayed the first coat of Awlgrip and closed the shop for the evening. Upon returning the following morning they discovered thousands of cockroaches had crawled out of the interior of the boat and had died on the fresh paint, now ruined. They ended up having to sand the hull back down and repaint it again, after calling the exterminator.
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post Nov 13 2009, 12:59 PM
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Mighty close guess. I found one pretty similar. Nice.

http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1989/Hinck...I/United-States

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post Nov 13 2009, 02:50 PM
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I was on a Bruckmann 42 a couple of years ago, amazing boat, eye-popping interior.

Yes, our is a SW-42, thanks for the kind words. She's a member of the family, my wife and son would sell my kidneys if they caught me cheating on her.

Like true anarchists, we're barbaric enough to drink red wine with lobstah.

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post Nov 13 2009, 03:01 PM
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Cruisin, a toast to your wife and son for such good sense. Cheers!

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I was on a Bruckmann 42 a couple of years ago, amazing boat, eye-popping interior.

Yes, our is a SW-42, thanks for the kind words. She's a member of the family, my wife and son would sell my kidneys if they caught me cheating on her.

Like true anarchists, we're barbaric enough to drink red wine with lobstah.

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post Nov 13 2009, 03:05 PM
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So Oz, long story short. Yes you can quite racing! Come join the party, bring what ya got. We promise, no protest hearings.

QUOTE (ozzie @ Nov 7 2009, 07:12 PM) *
I know what you probably think that I am full of shit. The fact that a racer can stop racing and cruise. I have been sailing since I was a kid. I race most weekends and have done seven years of coastal races. I have my old boat up for sale and bought a Catalina 34mkII. We will be taking this boat offshore in about two years down the west coast from Vancouver to Mexico and beyond.
So my question is should we sail the Catalina for a few years then sell it and buy a bigger ( more expensive ) boat which will cut in to the cruising kitty or prep the Catalina for offshore and sail smart in the proper seasons during the known favorable weather periods.

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post Nov 13 2009, 09:57 PM
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QUOTE (Joli @ Nov 13 2009, 03:05 PM) *
So Oz, long story short. Yes you can quite racing! Come join the party, bring what ya got. We promise, no protest hearings.

QUOTE (ozzie @ Nov 7 2009, 07:12 PM) *
I know what you probably think that I am full of shit. The fact that a racer can stop racing and cruise. I have been sailing since I was a kid. I race most weekends and have done seven years of coastal races. I have my old boat up for sale and bought a Catalina 34mkII. We will be taking this boat offshore in about two years down the west coast from Vancouver to Mexico and beyond.
So my question is should we sail the Catalina for a few years then sell it and buy a bigger ( more expensive ) boat which will cut in to the cruising kitty or prep the Catalina for offshore and sail smart in the proper seasons during the known favorable weather periods.

ozzie



No protest hearings? Do you know me? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)


We are looking forward to just kicking back and having some fun.

Red wine and lobster sounds good to us.
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post Nov 13 2009, 10:47 PM
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Jesus H, Joli !! I'm looking at your traveller winches and wondering which retired Maxi your driving?????
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post Nov 14 2009, 12:21 AM
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QUOTE (Joli @ Nov 13 2009, 07:05 AM) *
So Oz, long story short. Yes you can quite racing! Come join the party, bring what ya got. We promise, no protest hearings.


You still get to do the fun stuff like sail trim, predicting shifts, finding current lanes, etc. Because of your experience, your boat will be in top shape. Add to that--you can bring as much food and booze as you want, and if you don't like how the weather looks you can turn over and go back to sleep. Hell, you can even bring a harp--and a harpist!

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And a harpoon!!!!
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post Nov 14 2009, 01:08 AM
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QUOTE (A mear Paps @ Nov 13 2009, 02:47 PM) *
Jesus H, Joli !! I'm looking at your traveller winches and wondering which retired Maxi your driving?????


Joli has a C&C 61, as in the link I posted.
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Nooice
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post Nov 14 2009, 01:49 AM
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QUOTE (tigger12 @ Nov 14 2009, 01:21 AM) *
QUOTE (Joli @ Nov 13 2009, 07:05 AM) *
So Oz, long story short. Yes you can quite racing! Come join the party, bring what ya got. We promise, no protest hearings.


You still get to do the fun stuff like sail trim, predicting shifts, finding current lanes, etc. Because of your experience, your boat will be in top shape. Add to that--you can bring as much food and booze as you want, and if you don't like how the weather looks you can turn over and go back to sleep. Hell, you can even bring a harp--and a harpist!

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Some guys have all the luck ! I tried to get a harpist and finished up with a harpie.

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QUOTE (savoir @ Nov 13 2009, 05:49 PM) *
QUOTE (tigger12 @ Nov 14 2009, 01:21 AM) *
QUOTE (Joli @ Nov 13 2009, 07:05 AM) *
So Oz, long story short. Yes you can quite racing! Come join the party, bring what ya got. We promise, no protest hearings.


You still get to do the fun stuff like sail trim, predicting shifts, finding current lanes, etc. Because of your experience, your boat will be in top shape. Add to that--you can bring as much food and booze as you want, and if you don't like how the weather looks you can turn over and go back to sleep. Hell, you can even bring a harp--and a harpist!

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Some guys have all the luck ! I tried to get a harpist and finished up with a harpie.




Count yourself lucky. We got Harper.
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QUOTE (tigger12 @ Nov 13 2009, 05:21 PM) *
QUOTE (Joli @ Nov 13 2009, 07:05 AM) *
So Oz, long story short. Yes you can quite racing! Come join the party, bring what ya got. We promise, no protest hearings.


You still get to do the fun stuff like sail trim, predicting shifts, finding current lanes, etc. Because of your experience, your boat will be in top shape. Add to that--you can bring as much food and booze as you want, and if you don't like how the weather looks you can turn over and go back to sleep. Hell, you can even bring a harp--and a harpist!

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Holy crap, how do you keep that thing in tune?

"It takes 14 hours to tune a harp, which remains in tune for twenty minutes or until someone opens the door."
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QUOTE (oldgoatroper @ Nov 13 2009, 08:10 PM) *
Holy crap, how do you keep that thing in tune?
"It takes 14 hours to tune a harp, which remains in tune for twenty minutes or until someone opens the door."


Harpists spend half their time tuning, and the other half playing out of tune!

Nowhere more true than on a boat. The little one she is playing is called a 'harpsicle' (really) It's just a wee little thing to keep her fingers moving while on board. Due to the small size, you can't get much tension on the strings, and therefore it does not require the physical effort and does not keep her in playing shape the same way the big ones do. She does have a lovely mid-sized folk harp, but it is still too big and frankly too good to bring on board. You have to be prepared for it to get banged around a bit. To be truthful, I was actually quite surprised how well the little one stayed in tune. Not much in the way of tone quality, but hey--a glass of wine after dinner and live music ain't bad!

The really great thing? After day 5, she finally stopped playing the theme from "Titanic" and went back to Celtic stuff (!)
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