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In Topic: Being a better Bowman

07 September 2014 - 04:17 AM

Midbow. Know everything the bowman has to do and look for opportunities to back him up when he needs it. Get halyards off the mast and to him, run sheets if they need it, grab the jib bag and help flake the back end. Etc.

Sewer: pack chutes. Fast. Pack it into the bag in the reverse of how it'll come out. Foot and belly in from the bottom up and then 8 feet of the clew and tack at either sides of the bag. Learn how to run tapes efficiently. Don't ever disconnect anything without a good reason.

Floater changes from boat to boat but basically you need to do a variety of things that have to happen when there aren't hands to do it.


As left hook stated but also could include the following depending on the size of the boat e.g modern IRC 45 to TP52 or bigger:


1. Mid bow - if the bowguy is out on the sprit, pole, up the mast, at the kite clew changing gear, then bow is run and maintained by the mid bow until he is back in position.

2. Sewer may be also be a mid bow position in buoy racing but owns the sail stack below (especially distance racing when you are carrying staysails, MGs, code-0, etc), packs kites, clears the sail after string drops, fixes sails if needed, runs zippers and properly rolls sail turtles for the sails that are up.

3. Floater - depending on the boat , you may need two pit people to handle halyard locks, even if the halyards are brought up on pedestal run winches (no mast man), floater may be the second pit person, the sewer and assist with sail drops


Sewer Vid:


Mid Bow:

In Topic: Being a better Bowman

06 September 2014 - 09:29 PM

13 times up the rig during KWRW, not cuz we skied halyards, but cuz the internal halyard lock failed and I had to cut the main halyard to let it down.  These are the kind of things that a bowman has to do!  But the second picture is the reward!  Doing 18 knots crossing the finish line in KWRW in the last race for a second overall!


The previous post mentioned most, but here's my list:

  • You have to be fearless, but know your limits!  Big difference between the two.  You have to be willing to do things on and off the boat that no one else will do!  Knowing your limits will keep you safe.
  • Remember that you can get hurt and hurt very badly if something goes fubar!
  • Always be in shape; run, lift, stay flexible, and understand the physical demands.  You will need to be the strongest pound for pound on the boat.  You won't have the luxury to sit in the back of the bus drinking beer and eating sammies between races.
  • Never assume someone else did your job or that its done correctly.
  • From the mast to the point, its yours, make sure everyone knows you got it and back that up!
  • Check everything!  Knots, shackles, halyards, luff groove, lines, stanchions, sails, bags, trims, etc!  If anything ain't right, either fix it or make sure it gets fixed.  Never just leave it for someone else.
  • Bag, band, pack, fold, store, number, set, launch, recover, inspect, fix, all sails, including the main!!!  It's not all yours, but you should know all of it and how its done.
  • First on and last off everyday.
  • Never stop working!  Never!  When the race is over, the bowman's work begins.  No time for a beer or sandwich. 
  • You always tidy up after everything!
  • Know everything about the boat.  If its new to you, ask a lot of questions.  Go below and peek in all of the cubbies.  Check out all of the systems; engine, mast, electronics, generator, ice box, nav station, EVERYTHING.
  • Suit up early and stay that way until you get back to the dock.  Harness, multi, knee pads, shoes, hat, sunglasses.
  • Help everyone on the boat, even if you don't like them.
  • Get a little driving time in so you can feel the helm and see what the helmsman deals with. (Obviously before the race!)
  • Say very little until its absolutely necessary or your asked.
  • Bond with the pit and mast man, they got your back.
  • Most important, develop other skills so you can get off the bow before you get too old!

Sometimes its the hardest job on the boat and sometimes its tough to watch the rest of crew relax between races.  If you can't get that you don't have time to relax, then you can't be an effective bowman.  Well gotta go, gotta get in my 5 miles and workout.  Yeah its 3 pm and 95 out, but that's the life of a bowman!


I have had the opportunity to do bow all over the world in several of the top fleets/events and I cant tell if your list is tongue and cheek or not.   If it isn't I would have walked off after race one...  The bow guy can only good as all the team behind him and a tired bowguy who has to carry all the weight listed above would be useless come race 2 during day 2 a multi race series. Hope you had help at KWRW.... : )


Sarc, check your PM here and get back to me, I may have an opportunity for you if you are interested to sail with a AC  caliber bowguy (not me, I am old now) in the PNW during a couple practice days. This is for late September early October in Seattle.

In Topic: Older well known IOR Boats

02 June 2014 - 05:50 AM

For fun, I am posting the 45 foot version from 5 years later under the Canada's Cup boat... Later became Rumours in Detroit, built tons of sails for it in 85 and 86.


Taken from the Larry Moran thread.....


Evergreen.  Donald R Green.  Burlington, Ontario, Canada. Frers 45.  1983 SORC Class C, rated IOR 34.4.

Miami to Nassau Race.




In Topic: what is it?

02 June 2014 - 04:27 AM

Looks like a pearson flyer 30...

In Topic: Older well known IOR Boats

02 June 2014 - 01:26 AM

Thanks again for that post. It took a lot of work to produce a perspective of the hull lines back in that day. Today any kid with a 3d program can be a yacht designer.

I wish someone could find a pic of my old flush deck two tonner HEATHER. That was a very handsome and effective IOR boat.


Spent the day with John and Gloria to check on his progress after his accident and give him the full Swiftsure and Blake Island race recaps since he will not be able to sail for a a few more months.  Got a history lesson about 1976-1986 and pulled out all the old photos for the Heather and Glory boats...  We think this is one you are looking for Bob - John had quite a few stories about his time with it...