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TheCadMan

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In Topic: Electrical Anarchy (Household)

09 May 2012 - 03:37 AM

Okay, so the missing piece to the puzzle has been found, and I am reminded why one of my rules of troubleshooting is to always doubt what others tell you.  I broke that rule this time.

Short version of this story is that during a conversation about what I planned to do today (chasing the suspect circuit to make sure it didn't involve more than the known bathroom) my wife remembered "pushing a reset button not that long ago".  Turns out the remodelled (7 or so years ago)ensuite bathroom, that has a GFCI (that I was under the understanding that was added during the remodel), is actually part of the circuit.  A quick test of this outlet and sure enough, lower bathroom (light, fan, outlet etc) is dead.  Nice thing is I no longer need to suspect a flaky breaker, and do not need to add a GFCI to this bathroom.

Must have been part of the original house wiring.  So the only question I have now is truly why the hell would they have bothered?  As I was too young to care about such things when this house was built, so I have to ask were these things that expensive back then that wiring multi-bathrooms on multi-floors using a single GFCI was justified?  Or is this something that is still done today?

My opinion, as if it isn't already clear, just because you can do something doesn't always mean that you should.

Thanks again for all your thoughts, opinions and assistance.

In Topic: Electrical Anarchy (Household)

08 May 2012 - 02:02 PM

And yes plugs (or the lack of them) do vary around the world. A sparky told me a story about checking-in to a chalet in Nepal whilst on the hippy trail way back when. The owner showed him around and the guest enquired about the two 3/8" brass studs sticking out over the sink. The owner said that they were for the toaster - twist the copper strands of the appliance lead wires around them and away you go, but don't touch both studs at the same time.


Told my wife, who has been to Nepal several times, about that one.  Her first comment was that your buddy must have been staying in a pretty upscale place, considering that he had a toaster.  While she has never seen the two brass studs approach, she wasn't surprised by it either.  Apparently they have some rather dodgey approaches to most things electrical.  But then again, they have internet cafes where it only costs $0.10 per hour, so what could you expect.

In Topic: Electrical Anarchy (Household)

08 May 2012 - 03:16 AM




Any chance there is a thermal protection device in the system somewhere?


VC hit the nail on the head. The motor has internal thermal protection and resets itself after it cools down. Find out why the motor is overheating. Clogged airflow, lint in the system, or bad bearings.

Thank you very much, send a check to me for $75.00 please.

Wrong answer, that would not kill the lighting circuit, only the VAC.

Sure add more information after I gave a great answer. Now I need to charge you overtime. It is still a thermal short. Could be at a wirenut but most likely in the panel. Either the neutral connection or the breaker. And it could be in the breaker also. Start by tightning the screws in the panel.


Sorry that we confused you with facts given during the initial post.  I realize that was a little while ago, so lack of rum must be your problem.  Rum being the most effective agent I know of to disrupt apparent time passage (thereby aiding your memory). :P

In seriousness though, thanks for your comments on the panel.  I am still trying to connect with the electrician I am hoping will come look into my panel for me, but will discuss your points with him if he does.

In Topic: Electrical Anarchy (Household)

07 May 2012 - 01:54 PM

What strange people you are north of the equator.  The 'outlet tester' - 'plug this unit into the wall and instantly diagnose your plug'.

The power outlet in the wall is a socket isn't it ?    Not a plug - a plug is male, a socket female.    Or it is down here ....



LMAO - I stand corrected (as I did it too). We very well might be considered strange by those of you south of the equator.  While I could try to blame it on being near the end of a long day, but in this case I would suggest it is just an example of lazy English usage.  Nice part is that most people look at the context and automatically adjust for the mistake.  It helps adjust for us less edumacated people. ;)

Now strange is the various plug and socket designs in use around the world.

In Topic: Electrical Anarchy (Household)

06 May 2012 - 02:45 AM

many appliances have thermal overload protection


sure it was not the vac, rather than the circuit ?


Whole circuit was out.  Bathroom light, exhaust fan, and multimeter test on plug all without power.  Even after the breaker was cycled multiple times.  Power did not resume until sometime in the night, or early the next day.  If I didn't know better I would say it must be controlled by microsoft software, and waited for a reboot :P (no, I do NOT have any advanced control systems in this house).