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Isle of Whores

Member Since 01 Jul 2004
Offline Last Active Apr 06 2011 07:05 AM
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In Topic: Anema core at miami

06 March 2009 - 04:22 PM

"One more kite in the piss and you all shall be sleeping on the god #@*# Fu*#*@! BOAT for the weekend!!!!"
I am surprised he just didn't quit the regatta which is more his style. Take my toys and go home, and the rest of you can ride the train home or sit in the container".
As they say, "you get what you pay for" and 2 or 3 pros sitting in the back of the bus was not going to save 2 kites.

In Topic: C&C 115

24 February 2009 - 05:54 PM

My thinking on the 36.7 being "Maxed out" is from the 19 boats (8%) on the market currently and slow production sales this year for new boats (40% down). The market is 50% off from a year ago on used boats sales and the local Bay boat was probably a left over inventory boat that need to find a home.
The boats will move around the country as they all do developing different 1/D classes in a new area as another area finds a new toy to play with. The 1/D 35's moved from the East Coast through the Great Lakes until they reached San Fran. The Farr 40s have done the same thing and the old IMS boats and IOR boats follow the same migration East to west as the prices get cheaper.
As for the impressive numbers for the 2007 North Americans in Buffalo for the Ben 36.7 that only reflected 18% of the boats sold in the North America (2008 in Chicago was down 30% from the year before in entries), funny it is the same percentage of C&C 115s that shall show up for this year's NOOD/North American Championship (18% of North America), but an increase of entries of 40% over 2008. This may just show it takes a while for a boat to take off and gain some momentum to become a 1/D in some areas. It takes a lot of work on the part of the manufacture and dealers as well as the owners to get things moving in their local areas and it also depends on what established fleets you may have to go up against.
I look at the success of the 36.7 (250+ sold in North America) as people who wanted to have a little more boat than what a J-105 has to offer and if I am not mistaken it has taken a few years for them to reach a 1/D status in the local areas as the boat is now 7 years old.
Hopefully you can keep a local fleet in a time where racing and campaigning a boat is going to be tough. You don't have to look any further than Key West to see how the numbers are down.

In Topic: C&C 115

24 February 2009 - 04:38 PM

To date there have been 85 C&C 115's built/sold.
The North American Championship will be held during the Annapolis NOODs this April.
There will be between 12 and 15 boats in Annapolis.
There is a growing fleet in Seattle/Vancouver area about 7 to 10 boats.
Long Island is starting a fleet where there are about 5 or 6 boats.
Annapolis has about 7 boats
Toronto about 3 or 4 boats

Future 1/D starts could be;
Block Island 2010
Key West 2010
Charleston Race Week 2010
Seattle NOODs
Annapolis NOODs

The boat just won Key West Race Week PHRF 1 Class as well as PHRF Boat of the WEEK. Success at Charleston and Block Island and Annapolis as well as Southern Florida.
IRC is a little tougher with the rating, but has won in Australia and tied for 3rd in the 2006 IRC East Coast Championships

The idea of develpoing a 1/D class can be very tough and one never knows if it is going to take off. It took the J-105 over 6 years to develope into a 1/D class and then some of the boats had to change out their keels to compete out of their local areas. The Beneteau 10R is a flop having sold less than a handful of boats over the past 3 years compared to the 36.7 which seems top have maxed out. The economy is going to effect any furture 1/D start ups, the SC 37 is a bust ay over $300K and the little Melges 20 and other small 1/D classes are going to be fighting each other to see who can make a class at the under $50K groups.

In Topic: Fallout from Key West IRC 2 What happens now?

30 January 2009 - 10:46 PM

How can you loose to an Elan 450 with 3 DNFs out of 10 races by over12 pts. That is just schocking. You all can pin your hopes on the SC37 as an offwind flyer, but I doubt it. She is not good in the light breeze either, so you So. Cal. guys might want to rethink a bit on that especially on you downwind runs to Ensenada. Hopefully the boat won't have to jibe on the way to Jamaica, I heard one lost a wheel and pedestal on her way down from St. Pete to Key West.
When you build a boat out of carbon and don't think your going to take a hit in the rating, you are living in a perfect world. The boat is cute, fun to sail if you like getting beat by a J44 that is almost 20 years old(redress was definitely bull), but at what cost. $300-400K for a one way boat that has yet to produce any "fun "factory that the other "lead mines" dont have except they are taking home the silver/pweter/glass trophies. Key West is a harsh proving ground for a new boat, and this year was an easy year as for competitors (50% down), so what is the upside on where this boat is going to fit in.
Maybe there should be an W/L rating and an Offshore Reaching/Running rating for these types of boats and hope the wind does not go on the nose while offshore.
From what I saw on the course, the SC 37 is slow upwind and never seemed to catch up downwind on the runs. As for the 4 and 5 legged course, the offwind finishes should have been better than the second races each day. That was not the case.
Let the world know how you guys in the UK or in OZ do with the boat, she's not hunting well on the east coast, nor the west from what I have seen.
As someone earlier saild, "can't it just be a shitter" it does happen from time to time and leave it at that.
Maybe extrapulate the PHRF numbers and find the silver lining there and I would use a PHRF number of a Farr 395 (27)to start with.