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In Topic: ....got stung by the 'WASZP'?..OD foiler...

05 February 2016 - 09:39 PM




I'd say the above is not sensible but it's how the market is (a person is intelligent, people are stoopid).  The Wazsp may impact this 2nd hand market but that remains to be seen. 



i think this could go two ways, depending on the timescale the boats are built / delivered in. 


- if a ton of them land in the uk at the same time, a racing fleet / series immediately kicks off and loads of them all buzz round together, then this will have a negative impact on moth fleets.


- if they come over piecemeal, the early adopters will jump into existing moth fleets, and very quickly land up with a massive disappointment when they realise they have just spent circa 10k on a slow(ish) boat. when they could have picked up a BR / prowler / ninja starting from 4k, which wouldnt be 'out of class' if they happened to want to change it. This situation may well see a firming up of the 2nd hand older moth market, along with a downward spiral of used waszp prices.   


IMO, obviously.    



I would guess these adopters are not stupid, and know that the Waszp is not M2 speed, and they also know it's 'class' 

Unless freakishly talented, these 'new to Moth' guys would be in the same sector of the fleet no matter which  boat they get,

splash once or twice and your lapped.

3 or 4 'journeyman' tacks and your down 1/2 a kilometre despite which 'faster moth' you buy.

Its not like traditional classes

In Topic: Rolex Wild Oats XI

05 February 2016 - 09:21 PM

no-one mentioned 'sell' except on this page !


the boats been out multiple times, and its testing (new?) mainsails 


tell me that is a sign of a program thats 'over' ???


Seeing as its out this early in the year i'd say a Syd-GC race is possible ( another sign of the program being 'alive & well')  



2m is pocket change, equiv to us getting a speeding/parking fine, anyway its a business expense

In Topic: 18'ers 2015/16 the -real- thread

04 February 2016 - 10:08 PM

And is Chris sailing again? Back on mojo?

not as yet 

he was 2 seasons ago

last years MOJO (full crew) is now on the SMEG sponsorship, they won the Aust Champs this week with a 2,1,1,5,crash 


also this SMEG  outfit have combined skiff titles for the first time, they won the 16' Nationals a month agohttps://fbcdn-sphoto...6812889f5d18e62




This years MOJO is a rookie 18 team from the 16' skiff class, last few races they are showing up in the top 1/2 doz places


imgs: Chittenden

In Topic: 18'ers 2015/16 the -real- thread

04 February 2016 - 10:03 PM

handicaps span 0-10mins with the slowest off 10, all races have handicap results along with across the line

they adjust minus 3,2,1 as the boat places on hcap

as to your earlier post SI's are amended boats can bounce off marks as long as they don't hook up

In Topic: 18'ers 2015/16 the -real- thread

02 February 2016 - 10:43 PM

courtesy the omnipresent photog Michael Chittenden, he's good