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Fishingmickey

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In Topic: Texas Centerboard Circuit 2016

23 May 2016 - 12:21 AM

Harpoonette and I are planning on being there. We will be racing on Harpoonette's crew's boat (Pearson 26).

FM


In Topic: Texas Centerboard Circuit 2016

11 March 2016 - 03:48 AM

I'm not going to bite Dave, Your entitled to your opinions. it didn't fall on deaf ears regarding the ratings Dave. It was never in my control. If you read the prescriptions on US sailing web site about running a race using portsmouth ratings maybe you'd realize it isn't the clubs we sail at.  It is US Sailings (national) rules. It's the only set of rules that the clubs have to use as a guideline.  You want to make some up? Have at it. I'll be happy to vote for you to be commodore next year. 

Hasta,

FM


In Topic: Texas Centerboard Circuit 2016

10 March 2016 - 02:34 AM

You betcha I remember, I'm gonna sit on my hands for a bit and let some of the others chime in. I do remember you really legging it out last weekend off of the start line before the breeze piped up. You can observe a lot from the back. lol

FM


In Topic: Texas Centerboard Circuit 2016

10 March 2016 - 12:36 AM

 

No funnin, if a DC can sail at 79.1 so shall we. Seems more than fair, I sail almost exactly as fast as a weta to windward, and with kite, about same downwind. So much can go wrong on our AC raising, dousing, gybing, no real advantage. I just want a chance at a trophy someday. And yer calcs are perfect, 4th is better than 6th!

I just made it a point to make sure we had the raw times, I did the calc's as they have been done in the past. We've used that 76 rating for the A/C several years now. I agree that the rating should not be the same for the new rules boats as it is for the old Nethercott hulls.

 

 

My question to you is "what should mine or John's IC rate", should it be the same as yours? I'm not the commodore this year and we don't have any type of formal board to discuss or apply to for relief from ratings issues other then talking about them here. The RC's at the clubs we sail at don't know how to score us properly most of the time. They try to do their best, some do better then others, some even use wind ratings (which the Weta doesn't have and the Weta is considerably faster in big breeze).  I know I can't or don't even come close to sailing the canoe to it's rating.  Should a fiberglass International 420 with a trap rate the same as a heavy plastic club 420 without a spin or traps?  According to US sailing they do.  Should I put a large asymmetrical on my Contender and expect the same rating as with out it?  Should your Hansen sail on your Laser rate the same as a regular Laser?  We know in our hearts that the rating should changed to reflect the changes made in the boats and it is pretty much a guesstimate with out a good set of data points from having accurate records taking and turned in to US sailing by the race committees.

 

     My hat is off to you Derek for sailing one of the hardest boats to sail out there.  You sure keep after it and there is no quit in you that is for sure!  Trying to lake sail a A/C in the crazy shifty winds we have is next to impossible (as you well know).  How Big D manages it I don't know but it takes serious skills to do it well.  I have never felt comfortable sailing my IC  in competition (yet). Trying to race my IC, I felt I was possibly dangerously out of control at times and worried about hitting other boats at the start or mark roundings.

 

     The US sailing system is sadly outdated and it has been bitched about mightly for years on SA and elsewhere. To the point of racing Portsmouth was about as much fun as being kissed by that nasty old aunt Nellie. When we start changing the rules US sailing has in place we go down a very slippery slope.  That is why when I was commodore I tried to stress the social side, win the party and make friends. The make up of the TCC has been changing rapidly these last few years with new faster boats coming out to play with us (that don't have accurate ratings).We have to live with how the clubs score us, the courses they set for us and be glad they let us come out and play with them.

 

     On a lighter note.  Austin Yacht Club has reached out to us (the TCC) and offered us a start in the weekly series races. I have always felt races were very hard to come by and I was glad/grateful to have the opportunity to come out and race without being a member of the club.

 

That's all I have for now, take care all!

FM

 


In Topic: Texas Centerboard Circuit 2016

10 March 2016 - 12:28 AM

No funnin, if a DC can sail at 79.1 so shall we. Seems more than fair, I sail almost exactly as fast as a weta to windward, and with kite, about same downwind. So much can go wrong on our AC raising, dousing, gybing, no real advantage. I just want a chance at a trophy someday. And yer calcs are perfect, 4th is better than 6th!

I just made it a point to make sure we had the raw times, I did the calc's as they have been done in the past. We've used that 76 rating for the A/C several years now. I agree that the rating should not be the same for the new rules boats as it is for the old Nethercott hulls.

 

 

My question to you is "what should mine or John's IC rate", should it be the same as yours? I'm not the commodore this year and we don't have any type of formal board to discuss or apply to for relief from ratings issues other then talking about them here. The RC's at the clubs we sail at don't know how to score us properly most of the time. They try to do their best, some do better then others, some even use wind ratings (which the Weta doesn't have and the Weta is considerably faster in big breeze).  I know I can't or don't even come close to sailing the canoe to it's rating.  Should a fiberglass International 420 with a trap rate the same as a heavy plastic club 420 without a spin or traps?  According to US sailing they do.  Should I put a large asymmetrical on my Contender and expect the same rating as with out it?  Should your Hansen sail on your Laser rate the same as a regular Laser?  We know in our hearts that the rating should changed to reflect the changes made in the boats and it is pretty much a guesstimate with out a good set of data points from having accurate records taking and turned in to US sailing by the race committees.

 

     My hat is off to you Derek for sailing one of the hardest boats to sail out there.  You sure keep after it and there is no quit in you that is for sure!  Trying to lake sail a A/C in the crazy shifty winds we have is next to impossible.  How Big D manages it I don't know but it takes serious skills to do it well.  I have never felt comfortable sailing my IC  in competition (yet). Trying to race my IC, I felt I was possibly dangerously out of control at times and worried about hitting other boats at the start or mark roundings.

 

     The US sailing system is sadly outdated and it has been bitched about mightly for years on SA and elsewhere. To the point of racing Portsmouth was about as much fun as being kissed by that nasty old aunt Nellie. When we start changing the rules US sailing has in place we go down a very slippery slope.  That is why when I was commodore I tried to stress the social side, win the party and make friends. The make up of the TCC has been changing rapidly these last few years with new faster boats coming out to play with us (that don't have accurate ratings).We have to live with how the clubs score us, the courses they set for us and be glad they let us come out and play with them.

 

     On a lighter note.  Austin Yacht Club has reached out to us (the TCC) and offered us a start in the weekly series races. I have always felt races were very hard to come by and I was glad/grateful to have the opportunity to come out and race without being a member of the club.

 

That's all I have for now, take care all!

FM