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Wicked One

Member Since 04 May 2011
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In Topic: Melbourne Big Boat Fleet

17 April 2013 - 07:18 AM

 

Mexican:

 

The Southern Cross Cup and the FoS both used New Tack as their regatta / event managers.

New Tack's client (ie. the entity who engage them to run their regatta / event) for the Southern Cross Cup are the local owners of TP52's. They make all the decisions about their regatta / event.

For the FoS, New Tack's client is the RGYC. New Tack's client is not the entrants to the regatta. This is where the similarities between the two events end. New Tack are following the direction of their client: RGYC.

To reiterate, if anyone has a gripe with the cost and format of the FoS, you'll need to influence the RGYC directly or indirectly through their key stakeholders (eg. the City of Greater Geelong, the sponsors and the State Government of Victoria). You're wasting your time blaming New Tack.

 

Gee, well there is the problem Mexxy.

 

You see mate, I always thought that the "key stakeholders" were the owners and crews of the competitors yachts. This event is not like some fucking rock concert where the band plays no matter who attends, if their ain't no boats then your "festival of sail" is just a bunch of fucking unemployed Geelong Bogans wandering around looking for a fight.

 

I mean think of it Mexxy, There is a crew to organise, food and drink to be purchased and a boating asset worth between $10,000 and $3,000,000 or so to be punted down to Geelong - and we aren't the "key Stakeholders"?

 

Ever heard of the marketing terms "buy In" and "ownership" Mexxy? I'll bet those stupid RGYC, Geelong Council and State Government pricks convinced themselves that "Festival of Sail" was a "Brand" right? A "brand " that they owned.

 

That came through loud and clear when Scandia first sponsored the race; the yachting population was immediately divided into "Grand Pricks" yachtsmen welcomed into the corporate tent and the rest of us great unwashed boaters. Each year you progressively alienated more of the Victorian yachting community till we were just a fucking sideshow, a pleasant backdrop for the Bogans to look at, with no real stake in the proceedings. That is what your "branding" has achieved.

 

You see Mexxy, in days gone by every yachtsman in the Bay had "Ownership" of the Geelong regatta and we dutifully "bought in". We organised bought and paid for food, drink and accommodation each year because it was something everyone did as a matter of course. We went because everyone went.

 

And this year you fucked it up even worse than last time.. No passage race and sailing during a work day as well.

 

Let me tell you what the original highlights of Geelong regatta actually were:

 

1. Passage races from every point in the bay, the course, starting order and start times chosen so that everyone arrived at the Hopetoun channel at once. For those on board that provided fun and games at the narrowest point and it was not unusual to see several unwary players go aground. The spectacle of about a thousand yachts (which is something like the numbers that attended in the late 1960's) arriving en masse was pleasing to the watchers. - But you fucked that all up now haven't you?

 

2. Then there was the fact that all yachts held "open house" and you caught up with people you hadn't seen all year, wandered off to get drunk together and eat something. Now replaced by acres of commercial food stalls.

 

3. Then there was the Sunday afternoon race for the teams in the inner harbour. The action at the gybe mark produced several magazine covers. I was there when Police Car broke its vang. All that is gone now - replaced by boring up/down races in the outer harbour.

 

4. Then there are the prices of everything. We didn't mind buying beer tickets, but today prices are just gouging.

 

 

So tell RGYC, the City of Geelong and the State Government to take their "Brand" and stick it up their arses.

What's the quote? "Don't argue with an idiot. They'll only drag you down to their level and beat you with experience every time...."

 

Nice rant, however, you've made some sensational assumptions which have no basis. When you say "But you fucked that all up now, haven't you?" I presume you think I'm somehow involved with New Tack, RGYC, et al.

 

Nothing could be further from the truth. I've been racing at Geelong Week (as I still think of it) for over 25 years as a crew and have seen the same changes you rant against. And I do agree that the event has taken a turn for the worse from a sailor's perspective. The difference is that I see myself, and the sailors who race at the event, as the customer of the event. The reason I've termed RGYC, the City of Greater Geelong, the sponsors and the State Government of Victoria as the key stakeholders is because they're actually in a position to make decisions regarding the event.

 

The only decision you or I have to make is whether we buy the product. This year, I did not.

 

So we can vote with our feet and not turn up; as many did this year. The point I'm trying unsuccessfully to make is this may not be enough to change the course of the event. I'm absolutely certain ranting on the internet is not the solution. It's also clear, to me at least, that bagging New Tack will not change the outcome. So how do you influence a change in the event for the betterment of the sailing customer?

 

You need to influence the people and organisations who actually make or have a huge influence over the decisions made about the event: RGYC, the City of Greater Geelong, the sponsors and the State Government of Victoria.

 

By the way, I've told you a million times before: don't exaggerate!

 

Mex

 

(or Mexxy to my fans)

The Club Captains have provided advice to RGYC on some changes to the divisions and how they are scored that will hopefully offer the Port Phillip keelboat community a reason to participate in the regatta again. Whether those suggestions find their way into the NoR will be interesting to see.

I hope you have more success in those discussions with RGYC than your predecessor had... 


In Topic: Square-top Headsail

26 March 2013 - 11:58 AM

One First 40 flew these in 2012 Sydney-Hobart. IRC rating dropped quite a few points (reduced luff length I suspect?) but had some major issues with them pulling out of the forestay foil (probably due to extra loads?), and had to resort to bare-headed changes which they reported cost them time and grief. Owner was not particularly complimentary about the change.

In Topic: SYC 2013 Notice of Motion

21 March 2013 - 09:08 AM

Why put up a motion, and not bother to show up for it? Knew it wasn't getting up ?


Suspect you already know this (or would if you were there and listening).... proposer overseas and seconder unwell.

In Topic: SYC 2013 Notice of Motion

21 March 2013 - 12:47 AM

For all those conspiracy-theorists out there on this thread... this motion did not come up at SYC OGM (was withdrawn) as neither the proposer nor seconder (Note: both ordinary members and not on general committee!) could be present at the meeting.

But you probably already know that if you were interested enough in your Club to attend the meeting.

Guess you will have to go find some other unsubstaniated rumours to start.... hey I know one... how about that the evil general committee are now deliberately re-writing the Club's constitution and by-laws to otherwise achieve their sinister plans.... :blink:

In Topic: SYC 2013 Notice of Motion

27 February 2013 - 06:35 AM

Think you are reading more things into this motion than actually exist. On my reading there is no "sinister" intent to prevent members from voting for flag officer positions. Also remember that members vote for General Committee - when an election is required.

The motion's intent, on my reading, is to ensure that Flag Officer candidiates are familiar with the current strategies/priorities of the Club and the way the governance operates... which, personally, I support as it helps to ensure that longer-term projects actually get done, and not delayed due to the 2-year turnover of Flag Officers.

However, I do think that the 5-year period could be a little restrictive.... but agree with the intent as stated on the motion.

There is nothing in the motion to support your statement that " Flag Officers will be appointed by a committee".

Also can't see how the motion is "..removing the decision making from the general club members to "annointed" selected club member..." The decision making in the Club is still driven by (the member-elected) General Committee from a policy/strategic perspective and the management team from an operational perspective.


Also worth noting that this motion has been raised by a Member..... not General Committee.


Are you are viewing this impartially, or perhaps have a personal agenda which benefits from distributing false and misleading information on public forums like this? <_<

May be an interesting OGM coming up...