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In Topic: Vendee Globe 2016?

30 November 2016 - 11:01 PM

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Oh and Alex how does it feel not to have a heater now ?   Its called a cigarette lighter plug and a heater. OOOH  it's so heavy , yeah right. Twat.
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One of you is in second place in the world's biggest solo ocean race, with a multimillion dollar sponsorship, the sexiest monohull in the world, a hot wife and two cute kids at home, and a half million bucks worth of nice suits and trousers and sweaters.
 
The other one is calling people names on the interweb.
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I still think it's a stupid thing that the boats do not have heat on board . Macho no bloody dangerous.  Sailing down there you need heat I do not give a shit what you think ,as I said cigarette lighter  and small fan works wonders when its below - 5 . You get cold you under perform , not my words survival experts .  Off to Antartica ,So Bill wheres ya jacket ? Nah don't need it . KIN ELL. I will ask Alex when he gets back. How was the Southern Ocean with no heater that would weigh 1/2 kilo.
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it's just your lack of knowledge showing.  They don't have heaters because they have engines that warm the boat up quite well.  Often the guys that have dedicated heaters do so because (1) they are not going to be fighting for the win, so might as well be dry and comfy, and (2) they can't stand the noise of the engine.  Alex don't give a shit about either of these, and given he has as much experience in the Southern Ocean as anyone in this entire fleet, I'm guessing he's going to be more accurate about what's necessary than you are.   Unless you've got 5 circumnavigations via the Capes under your belt, which, well, you don't.
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I can't believe I'm agreeing with Clean.  I feel like I'll need to go wash my mouth out with soap after this.  Alex already said he didn't bring a heater because last time he did bring a heater and then didn't have enough fuel to run it, so he never used it (and he survived).  Besides, I don't see him complaining about it, other to state the obvious, that it is cold.  Seb & Armel are saying the same thing, so what's the difference?  We are only talking about 0-5 degree temperatures.  Hardly life threatening.  
 
One last thing, for comfort and performance what really matters is these massive hard dodgers all the top boats have.  Would you rather have a teeny little heater down below and an open cockpit like the tail enders.  Or a freaking pilot house with no heat.  I know which I'd pick.  Being wet and cold sucks much worse than just being cold.  
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I wonder how many Volvo sailors secretly wish to have something similar at times?

In Topic: Vendee Globe 2016?

30 November 2016 - 10:51 PM

BP seems to be plowing a lot of water for a foiler.  HB seems to very bow up for a boat without a foil.
 
The difference in sail plan is likely more significant than the foils though.  And now they both know what the other is running.


Have to agree, BP seems to be pushing a lot of water at times.

All the HB clips always show the hull having a very bows up trim, especially compared to BP.

Any opinions welcome.

Yep, not very much discussed regarding the sail plans. Anyone care to speculate on the differences between the top boats?

 
 
Besides the obvious?  Everyone is North (usually with some Incidences inventory) but one.

I've tried a quick search, whats the name of the other loft?

In Topic: Vendee Globe 2016?

30 November 2016 - 10:21 PM

BP seems to be plowing a lot of water for a foiler.  HB seems to very bow up for a boat without a foil.
 
The difference in sail plan is likely more significant than the foils though.  And now they both know what the other is running.


Have to agree, BP seems to be pushing a lot of water at times.

All the HB clips always show the hull having a very bows up trim, especially compared to BP.

Any opinions welcome.

In Topic: Vendee Globe 2016?

30 November 2016 - 10:03 PM

Wasn't it Pindar that became a heavily modded Hugo boss?

That's right. Alex thought that going with the most powerful of the previous generation would have been the fastest option in the last Vendée Globe. Didn't work out for him in the end.

After the BWR, what ever happened to it? Or the old Artemis boat as well?

In Topic: Vendee Globe 2016?

29 November 2016 - 11:13 PM

For some reason I can't this one out of my head:
https://www.youtube....h?v=krIus0i9xn8
 
Add a few more colors and the VOR is good to go. ;)
 
More realistically the shot shows why the VG skippers prefer their roofs. Will the next generation take a look at the MACIF ultime? We'll see.
 
 
 
On more VG notes
Alex is still grinding down Armel. Now down to 17nm.
Paul and Jeremie are still match racing each other.
Further back Conrad still hanging on to his group. Looks like a solid place 11-14 in 12h or so, with a bit of look they'll be ~100nm ahead of the rest.
Didac has to gain another ~140nm to catch faceocean and place 24. Place 23 will be harder, curently ~600nm. The race is long. =)

 
Agreed for the sub-marine effect!
 
Let's go crazy for a second:
I would like to see a sailing sub-marine...
The hull is intentionally always submerged, with only a foil shape thingy sticking out of the water, with the rig attached to it. you would still have a canting keel, daggerboards, etc... If you remove all the drag at the interface between the 2 fluids, (water and air), how much gain to you get? Granted, there is no more initial form stability. But dragging an object at the interface between 2 fluids is stupid... Really....
 
OK, I'll get back on my meds.  :)

Well somebody has to go first, might as well be you.

Not sure you deal with the lack of outdoor BBQ space though.