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In Topic: Lake Ontario Anarchy

11 May 2015 - 08:14 PM


Coastal Race format is bullshit designed to bring in participation by pandering to the lower skill sailors. Offer it, sure, just like the orr offshore courses at Chicago regattas but don't kill the competitive W/L race just to do it.

Last year the PHRF fleet was 3 white sail boats - this might increase participation.



So I discovered this evening when I went to the LORC site to register that ABYC Open "Regatta" this year is not running a full, two-day series of races for PHRF boats. Instead they are running a single "coastal race" on the Saturday only. This isn't worth the time, effort and resources to commit either of our boats to. This is unfortunate (we really enjoyed this regatta in past years), but there is not much we can do about it. Last year RCYC also moved to this format, reserving the actual racing for one-design and IRC boats. This is a worrying trend.

Perhaps LORC should drop the pretense and only run races for OD and IRC boats?

The only "Open" that seems to get a reasonable number of PHRF boats is QCYC.


The move is designed to try and help boost the PHRF participation.  I think 2 years ago, they even killed off the PHRF fleet entirely.  The entry into IRC can be daunting for someone with a Catalina 30 who wants to participate in his home clubs regatta.  This gives him a low entry point, more relaxed race, and they get to enjoy the party at the end of the day with everyone else.  One day makes it easier to secure crew commitments and is a good start for many people.  The W/L is not killed off.  You get two full days of it for the IRC and OD classes.  Recently, (last 5 years), there has been very little to no PHRF participation at these events.  Generally only 4-5 boats tops.  RCYC rally race had a good handful, and seemed to be a success (barring the RC f'up).  So rather than continuing to bang their heads against the wall, they are doing something to try and promote the racing.  If you want to do W/L racing you can get an IRC rating, it is not that difficult, John is enthusiastic and willing to help you get measured or a temp rating.  There have been a surprising number of smaller boats getting certs.

In Topic: Vang

17 March 2015 - 06:05 PM

We ran this system on a number of I14's.  Saves a ton of space and gives you a lot more power than a GNAV, and doesn't require a wrap around with the sail at the tack.  It was pretty simple, a couple bullet blocks going back and forth to the mast leading to a massive cascade.  Most guys use this as their primary way to flatten the mainsail.  

In Topic: Household Dispute

05 February 2015 - 03:10 PM

1. Never square back the pole leading into a gybe.  If it is light wind you will very likely collapse the spinnaker (slow), if it is windy, the pole is already back.  Don't start the rotation until the boat starts to move.


Disagree here about light air. Once the turn starts, we fully rotate the chute to the new side while there's still air in it - pole all the way back, sheet to the headstay. If you don't get it around, as you get DDW, there isn't enough pressure to keep it full and you get a collapse which often leads to it filling under the headstay as you come out of the jibe.  If you do get it around, it fills nicely as you come up on the new jibe.  In light air you're basically doing reach to reach jibes anyway, and you want to minimize the DDW time as much as possible.

Yes, but you've already started the turn before you pulled the pole back.  If your bow and trim team is good enough you can get away with keeping the pole on this late because they'll be able to get the pole on while heated up to a reach.  Most guys at a club race level will likely have trouble with this, or won't be able to rotate the spinnaker fast enough because the pole is in the way.  What you want to avoid is the guy yelling "Square back the pole, we're going to gybe" type thing where the sail instantly collapses at the start of the maneuver.  On something like a J24, yeah just turn the boat and worry about the rest later, harder once you get up in the 30'+ range.

In Topic: Household Dispute

05 February 2015 - 02:37 PM

tricks to looking flash in a gybe:


1. Never square back the pole leading into a gybe.  If it is light wind you will very likely collapse the spinnaker (slow), if it is windy, the pole is already back.  Don't start the rotation until the boat starts to move.

2. I'm short so I usually have the topper lowered until the pole is at a manageable height.  On a smaller boat burp the downhaul.  DO NOT COMPLETELY RELEASE THE DOWNHAUL/FOREGUY.  In breeze if the kite fills or pulls suddenly, it may sky the pole increasing your troubles.  You just need a little slack to make life easier.

3. Trip the outboard end of the pole off the old guy before putting on the new one.  Makes it easier to handle the pole with nothing pulling on it, and it allows the trimmers to rotate the sail faster because your dumbass is out of the way

4. clip new guy in

5. rotate the pole as far forward as possible then push it out to get it on the ring.  Makes for a faster transition out of the gybe.


Other notes/personal preferences:

I prefer jaws up in 95% of the cases.  When tripping off the end of the pole it allows the kite to pull the sheet up and out making trimming easier, and it allows me to slam the pole up into the ring from underneath rather than having to move it up and over then bring it down, miss, hit myself in the face, bleed, repeat.

lazy sheets/guys should be used by almost every boat above 29'.  Why?  Yes it is more cordage and shit lying around, but it allows the sail and the pole to operate independently.  All the load comes off the pole making it easy to move, and lets the sail rotate.  This means that you can actually gybe in light air without the sail collapsing, and makes your life a breeze in heavy air.  They're also convenient for getting you the sail when you go for the takedown.


This is how I like it setup when I'm doing bow, and how I like it setup when I'm trimming.  It reduces the chances of either us looking like dummies.  


TL:DR, if you can reach the pole no problem ease the downhaul a bit, if you can't reach it easily drop the topper, if really struggling, you missed your window have the trimmer ease the guy and you owe him a beer.