Story on the J105 Web Site


Sailing Anarchy is a web site run by Scot T, aka "Scooter". Here is a photo taken in 2005:



Mr. Tempesta



Scot Tempesta makes a living not with his web site, but as a left-wing AM radio commentator recently with San Diego's radio station KLSD (formerly KOGO). He's married, has two sons, and lives in Carlsbad, CA. His e-mail address is scot@nethere.com. He attended San Diego State, was a sailmaker (Sobstad) for awhile, and partied hard in those early days. He was a fine sailor than and undoubtedly still is. In the early 1990s he won the Lipton Cup and California Challenge Cup sailing for the San Diego Yacht Club when it was sailed in Olsen 35s. Now they use J/105's.

When you Google "Scot Tempesta", the top entry is "Scot Tempesta: Loudmouthed Idiot". Not that I'm against idiots. I was a big Johnny Damon fan before he left the Sox for the Yankees. But the moniker seems to fit. His role model seems to be Howard Stern. He started SA in 2000 because he was seeing "way too much BS going on in the sport -- cheating, manipulating, softball journalism, a lack of honesty, no alternative voice, etc." Nothing wrong with that. But Scot is proud that his forums on SA have no rules. So what happens is that everyone hides behind anonymity and says whatever they want. If you like f---ing this and f---ing that (including F---ing Nelson), all kinds of scurrilous accusations, and scatological dialog, the SA forums are for you. Instead of spending $8.95 to go to a like-minded movie, you can get the same pleasure out of SA for nothing.

Scot nevers seems to miss an opportunity to bash J/Boats' offerings and the J/105 in particular. Apparently J/105s are overpriced and underperforming. I guess Scot does not understand or place any value on one-design racing and well-organized class associations. He uses our openness and our mistakes against us. How many other class associations do you know that are as transparent and open as we are?

Why don't you see Scot Tempesta's name prominently in Sailing Anarchy? I guess he's just shy. If you look around, there's a "Contact" page, but no mention of Scot Tempesta as the founder or primary operator. But in other venues, he not above taking credit for "the most visited sailing website in the world". What you will find on SA is a very long "Legal" page on Terms and Conditions for using his web site. There are twelve long lawerly paragraphs, the first of which is "1. Copyright". It seems all of SA is copyrighted in 2001 even though most of it has appeared since 2001. Is that possible??? And "Any redistribution, retransmission, or publication of any material is strictly prohibited without the express written consent of the copyright owner", e.g. Sailing Anarchy, e.g. Scot Tempesta. With a section entitled "Lies and Rumors" on SA, you must be prepared for lawsuits, yes?

Actually if you search really, really hard you can find Scot Tempesta's name on one page of SA. It's the page called "Sore Loser" which gives a complete e-mail dialog between Scot and the aggrieved and agitated designer of the Bravura 29, which Scot trashed on his web site. The designer fell to Scot's level in his "rebuttal" while threatening legal remedies. It's a sad, sad dialog.

So why am I agitated by SA? Especially when I don't read the web site? Somebody e-mailed me part of his home page (a copyright violation, of course). I was not too surprised to see quotes from the (copyrighted) Minutes of a recent meeting of the J/105 Executive Committee conference call. These minutes were placed in a private area of our j105.org web site for the Members of our Class Association. Scot Tempesta is not a member and had help from a San Diego sailor in accessing them. The quotes were not identified as quotes from the minutes, but rather as quotes by individuals on the call. And by implication he completely distorted the reasons for some of the voting. There's no point in reasoning with Scot Tempesta and asking for a retraction. He is way beyond reason and not worthy of our time.

We encourage our owners to read our Owner's FORUM if you want to know what's going on with the J/105 Class or "Sailing Scuttlebutt" for generic sailing news. SS counsels "save your bashing, whining and personal attacks for elsewhere". I guess they are referring to SA.

Nelson Weiderman (speaking only for myself)
2006 J/105 Secretary/Treasurer

[Lightly edited 5/25 to correct the "left/right" error and to make it a tad less confrontational.]

WTF? An editorial on a class website?

Very old news. Goes back to when the Ed published a report of minutes from a J105 Class association meeting and NW got his knickers in a twist about it.

I don't think that Scot has a problem with J-Boats--or even J/105's--there are some posters that like to bash J/Boats--and that's fine--that's what SA is all about--I think that Scot has a problem with Nelson--who is so consumed by SA that he posts a diatribe on his own (J/105) website


NELSON--GET A LIFE!!

Oh Great

Now what do we do

With all the Peanuts

Nelson, you should really give SA a try. There's good people here.

That took way too long to read and now my head hurts.

This coming from a guy who calls himself Satan. Too funny.

at least the putz edited it to say "left-wing"
i believe in the first incarnation it pegged Scooter as a "right-wing" talk show host

(not that there's anything wrong with that)

i cant believe Nelsons rant is still up there...

wow, trying to use his class association to go against sailing anarchy... very impressive, but in its own right, we are against J105's right?

But come on, your not a true anarchist until you criticize a J/boat

I bow to our hero.

I find it hard to believe that Nelson doesn't check out this site to see if someone might be bashing his beloved J-105.

WTF is this, drag up every worn down retread old SA/Tempesta story week here?

Hey - I heard Lief Bailey got all pissed at Scot and called him a Dickhead!

Hey - did you hear Bruce Nelson pushed Tempesta off a dock?

he's probably a unregistered wanker that looks at stuff

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Old News.

Drive on.

I would bet that there are more 105 owners that come here then the class website.

jbieset

They must be masochists.

Why are we talking about this again?

Because the poster using "Lebanese Robot" as an anonymous nick is a fucking moron.

If you're from the states you'd be very hard pressed to have not raced on several J boats. I wouldn't bad mouth any of them in public. Besides OD is OD. People that bad mouth 105 racing may as well bad mouth mumm 30's or lasers, or any other OD fleet.

The part I find funny is that he is not worthy of Neidermier's (oops, Weiderman) time - it just took 7 paragraphs and a class website posting to continually ignore him! And not just 7 paragraphs, but an attempt to "out" him (email, family facts, and GASP - he's a left-wing radio host! Egads! Hide the children!) that took a little bit of research. Gosh, now I have even less reason to want a J105. Of course, the main reason being they only have one hull...

He looks like Sammy Hagar.

Why do you people beat up on Nelson?

He was honored by US Sailing for his volunteer work in support of sailing.

Give the guy a break.

What he said....

My first thoughts when I looked at this topic

Was Major Shit Fight

as I read it

I thought "Old News"


A Day later I'm thinking

This could be current as

it is still posted on the J105 site


To keep this rant posted

on J105's Class site

Shows a compleat lack of Class

(not a jab at any people, just what it looks like)

After making whatever point was intended

that post should have been taken down


Look how many have read this 1 day "OLD" thread



I never get that many people to look at a thread I post


Just as this thread

that was so out dated

caused the effect that it did (is)


that rant on the J105 site

could be thought of as a current story to some "not" in the know

( People who don't follow SA )


It's no wonder we get so many people comming to SA

Nelson Weiderman (speaking only for Him-self)

is doing a Great Marketing Job for SA

by 1st setting the mood (Ranting)

and then telling everyone where to Go to Rant too


As long as the J105 site is "Promoting" SA

Then they are ripe to be Thanked on SA

This is old news

The j105 site is excellent, very useful not just for 105 sailors but lots of useful info for other asym-j's

The 105 is a great boat

Nelson does a great job

now I must try and ignore this thread and hope it just fades away ....

is the J 105 a good OD boat?
who is this Nelson dude?
Do Rag says he wants that job...

You are funnier than a 600 point drop in the Dow.

ouch

hardly .. anyway nothing will dampen the mood - off to Val D'Isere tomorrow morning 40cm fresh snow and more coming, had a very nice sail on a J122 Saturday .. oh happy days

Hardly ever see anyone bash the J105 - it's the demolition derby wannabe what's a rule book hey you talkinta me J105 OWNERS that get bashed.

I was referring more to the drop than the jab

Oxygen, you're right on.

The 105 is a good boat; what pisses me off is the class association getting together
and deciding on a crew weight limit (except for the helmsman?).

So you end up with a bunch of crew that wear Medium (cut slim) t-shirts (or Smalls) and are 5'5"
(but tell everyone they're 5'7"). Except to my buddy Clubber Lange who used to have one
(He drove, had too, big guy), you never see any crew that wear XL size anything. Mostly a bunch of weenie-
WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED-erman's that jump when you say BOOOOO!

All classes should drop weight restrictions.

Is this thread still here,too.....what is everybody bored today.or what?

Those were the days, wern't they..... Excuse me, I've got a tear in my eye.....

Fact is the J/105 is overpriced and under performing; but that does not necessarily make it a bad boat. It the J/105 makes happy owners and a good class, power to them.

Ah - ha

Anyway what's a mark to market loss amongst friends ...

The above portion of the quote is what bothers me. I can go to any Yacht Club or Class meeting and find a loud potty mouth. The SA forums do not have an exclusive on that. We are just more easily accessed.

Maybe that should be in the Meta tag keyword section: "scurrilous accusations, scatological dialog"

"scurrilous accusations, scatological dialog"

Nelson Weiderman eats hot poop!