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  1. As I ran into a few disappointing surveys and sea trials I reviewed all the advice and opinions given and looked further into the S2 7.9. I found a nice one in Green Bay at a reasonable price (the upgrades alone since 2016 were equal to the selling price) and it is now sitting securely in the slip I had prepaid at the beginning of the season. While immensely smaller than my first choices, this boat is adequate in all ways for my stated mission since I don't mind camping. It is large enough to justify keeping in a slip and small enough to trailer cross country if needed. It won't cost $50
  2. This is a Black Swan event designed to prop up the price of oil. Expect more to come, as the inescapable rampant inflation will be blamed on energy costs/covid and not the frenzy of the money printing presses. People are working from home, the economy is in free-fall, people are being paid by the government to stay home and not work as occurred during the Weimar Republic, and the price of oil goes... up? One can explain all of this insanity on the central banks manipulating the currency at the end of a debt cycle. There is a glut of oil... and government debt.
  3. Some interesting points have been raised. The Bermuda 40 has been off the table for quite a while for me. I think everyone would agree that a pristine J/42 is more valuable than a pristine J/40 and far more expensive. For me, I have looked at two J Boats in a row that are in need of tens of thousands of dollars in work just in the categories of deck and hull rot/gelcoat failure. My new rule is not to drive more than three hours to inspect a J Boat, or to consider boats not on the Great Lakes already. When I looked at the J/32 the J boat dealer said J’s were only cored to the waterline, maybe
  4. And of course now the Hinckley is sold!
  5. Worth reading the whole thread, this is the moisture meter used by the surveyor and he says it is the best of all he has tried. $40 at Home Depot. Next time I will do a self-survey prior to paying $28 per foot for a legal survey.
  6. Falmouth Maine is a beautiful place, I arrived a little early and started poking around the boat. Overall, the boat is about what I expected but I was hoping for a little less crazing on the deck gelcoat. People say this is the brand of gelcoat they use but this is nine years before that era of gelcoat and seems as much their manufacturing as the gelcoat quality. There is no comparison to the Hinckley in condition or hardware. The hull is so poorly faired that the shape of the balsa core blocks is plainly visible in dozens of places. Just tapped out the hull. There is a 12x24” high moist
  7. Sadly at this point the US government is not funding its expenditures with taxes, rather with an artificial economy based on zero percent interest rates and printing money. Covid has been at best a fortuitous excuse for the printing which was going to happen anyway and also served to dramatically slow the velocity of money. Taxation is now just being used for social engineering as the debt cycle ends. It is a sad thing to see the nature of government seems to be the abuse of power and management of resources. Realize also that printing money is a form of "silent" taxation that steals wea
  8. Just got a phone call from the broker, survey delayed until Friday due to rain storms predicted Friday. Good thing I am retired...
  9. Saw it in the J/40 owners site. $1700 for four hoses under the pedestal, and that was with the pedestal out to repair the core under the pedestal. Seems crazy high to me also but that was the yard bill for that item.
  10. Survey Wednesday! It will be squeezed into an afternoon as the surveyor added it on to a morning survey the same day, on the request of the broker to avoid a month delay in performing a survey. Added to that, with trucking the boat 500 miles it is impractical financially to put it in the water for a sea-trial, so the motor will only be tested on a hose without being under load, not ideal at all. But the several thousands of dollars to commission and decommission the boat will go toward preparing for trucking. This of course is nerve-wracking but almost universally this is the approach ta
  11. Yes that would be improper installation. It is very important to pre-drill the holes, drill and fill, and chamfer the edge. Good tutorial: https://marinehowto.com/bed-it-tape/
  12. Things are moving along in a positive direction. This time Markel came back with a timely quote, in the $800 per year range covering the Great Lakes region. That's a lot better than $3000 for Annapolis and the east coast I was quoted for the B40 of identical price. Wow, it's giving me flashbacks as to how much more boat I am getting with the J/40 than the B40 . I've been looking for a suitable dinghy, and I have settled on a 2016 Shellback built by a maritime instructor in Buffalo. It is in new condition. The only problem seems to be arranging transport for the J/40. After looking at the
  13. The underwear came with the woman and the woman is self-sufficient. Same woman yesterday catching a grouper from her own fishing boat, launched from her nice house on the waterfront in Samar:
  14. The economy has been on life support since 2008, interest rates have been near zero since-this is the big gun to stimulate the economy. Now the only thing left is to print currency and forbearance of mortgage payments. We are nearing the end of a long financial cycle and there is no way out. Enjoy the decline!
  15. Yes, that’s why I said it. But the Swan 44 has a deep draft and would still be a $35K white elephant. Most going that route are not using premium marquees to cut off the mast and be motor only cruisers.
  16. The nice J/40 became available just now when the buyer backed out of the deal. I put a deposit on it. And now the Hinckley is back on the market for the same reason, I guess the moral of the story is to be polite with the broker on a pending sale boat. I’m two for two on deals falling through by other buyers and that surprises me. Survey one year ago, like new sails geared for single handling (blade jib,) re-powered, stored inside eight months per year, nice upgrades- very happy with this one and the advice that led me to the J/40.
  17. Not planning a Great Loop and never was, but living in Cleveland it would be half of one to get to the Bahamas. I have mentioned above that plan doesn’t seem practical. I think the confusion comes from seeing the swan 44 in Michigan with a rotten mast step would make a good great loop vessel because it’s too expensive to fix to hold a rig, I was jesting
  18. The J/40 is a great recommendation, it checks all the boxes for sure. There is a beautiful one in Maine for $79K, but it has an offer already awaiting survey and 40 people waiting in line if it is rejected. $40K less than the Hinckley and has many advantages: better performance, better galley, nice sails, bright teak interior, two heads (I am not in favor of sharing a head with another couple,) $500 less for a slip, little exterior teak, meets the 40' limit for many local marinas etc. https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1990/j-boats-j-40-3818150/
  19. Thanks for your recommendations, I really appreciate the advice on the J/40. For what I have described from the beginning it is really the perfect choice. It is way more boat than the J/32 I looked at, and faster. 

    I don't see any weaknesses in this one below other than the cabin sole needs refinishing. Repowered, owned by a yacht broker, recent sails, nice upgrades, great galley, used only four months of the year and stored covered... the interior is brighter and tougher teak instead of soft, dark mahogany. Do the decks craze on these like many other J Boats? I can't figure this out, which ones are prone to that problem. 

    The J/35 is appealing but I understand the limitations of weak ground tackle, big headsail, smaller volume interior... however still SO much boat for the money and I love the speed as I used to race cars and motorcycles. 

    If you see anything problematic with the J/40 I would like to hear about it. It is a long trip just to see it. 




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    2. T sailor

      T sailor

      Hi Mike,

      I was looking at boats last year and the years prior in a similar price bracket so I had considered some of the options you are considering.  I really liked the J/40 as well.  At the time I was looking, most of them were around $100K which I felt was overpriced.  I ended up buying a J/120 instead (my requirements included offshore racing - Newport-Bermuda, etc... and the 120 is alittle better suited to that).  The one I bought was pretty cheap and in need of some investment, but it was a way to get into that boat and upgrade over time as funds became available.  

      As far as crazing goes, my understanding is that it is related to a bad supply of gelcoat affecting boats from several manufacturers in the time frame around 1995-2001.  I personally have only seen it in J boats but have heard from a broker that it goes beyond J's.  My boat has a little crazing but not too bad.  I looked at a J/42 that was pretty bad.  

      Not sure how tall you are, but headroom in the V berth can be alittle low in the J/40 (actually any of the jboats for that matter).  My 120 is actually a little worse on headroom, but I am only 5'-9" so not really an issue for me.  one of the crew is 6'-2" and it is a bit of a problem for him.  

      You seem to have a pretty good eye for detecting potential problems with any boat so I think you are good at determining if a boat is worthy of consideration.  The J/40 is probably one of the better boats J/boats ever made.  I think an 88 or 89 build with a repower would be a good buy.  That boat in Maine looked fantastic.  They are relatively simple, but well laid out boats.  A good moisture survey of the hull and deck is a must.  I have seen some 40's that had significant moisture issues in the hull caused by poorly sealed thru hulls.  

      I would also give the blue J/37 in MD a look.  I have raced against that boat and it seems well taken care of.  The photos of the listing look like it could use some cosmetic work on the interior but overall i think it is a pretty good value.  

      J/35's are tempting at their price point, but I think the cockpit would drive me nuts.  it also has no coamings around the cockpit so I think you will have a wet ass in any kind of seaway.  I think the Thomas 35 is a better boat for the same money and addresses some of the shortfalls of the J.

      Good luck! 

    3. Caliente


      Well, a miracle has happened. The potential buyer for the J/40 had offered over asking price, saw the boat and backed out of the deal. There is a recent survey and the broker says there are no issues maybe a touch of moisture in some areas like they all have. After calling two more people that gave low 70 offers, the broker called me instead of going down the list and implied it would require a full price offer to get the boat, which I agreed to. It does seem to be a fantastic boat maybe needing some fresh cosmetics which I actually enjoy doing if there is not a ridiculous amount of body work. 

      Your observations about the J/35 are spot on. It is more of a purist's boat and everyone will have a wet ass, but I hang out with thirty youngish volleyball beach types so it wouldn't be hard to find people. Lake Erie is always going to have chop and wind. OTOH they are SO cheap! The one in Buffalo has two offers on it but the owner is seeking higher and rejected my 32.5. 

      On paper at least, the J/40 looks like the perfect boat for me and I'm glad you mentioned it, I had thought they were out of my price range and I was shocked to see the one for sale at $79k. NOT looking forward to the trip from Maine to Cleveland during my busiest time of year ha. 

      The broker is sending me the offer paperwork and I plan to go see the J/40 ASAP. I think I like it better than the Hinckley which is $40K more. 

      Thanks again for your insights! 

    4. T sailor

      T sailor

      Good Luck!  I think that is a great boat.  I'm not a huge fan of Bermuda 40's.  They are nice, but the SW 42 is ten times a better boat (at more than double the price).  I would take the J/40 over a B40 every day of the week.  

      I think that J/40 in Maine at $79K is a good buy, especially in this market.  it was only a year or two ago that they were in the $90-100K range and those typically were not repowered.  



  20. No gracias on the appearance, and I cannot even imagine the extent of crazy that would come with it
  21. Time for an update as everyone has been very helpful. The broker did not mention there was another offer on the Hinckley with the potential buyer living far, far away and planning to personally inspect the boat on April 9. Today. My understanding is that this is bad broker form, in that usually when an offer is accepted and a deposit taken the boat should come off the market until it is either accepted or rejected after the personal inspection, survey, and sea trial. Further, I have now been waiting a long time without Markel giving an insurance quote, the industry seems to be in disarray perh
  22. Hello George, this is Mike. I was in Manila just prior to the covid and plan to move there half the year asap. Also, I live on Lake Erie and I'm looking for a J/35. I'm on Viber and WhatsApp at 440-370-5708

    1. George Hackett

      George Hackett

      Good morning Calente,

      welcome to the Philippines.  We live up north in Subic Bay, about a two and half hour drive from Manila.  And we keep our J35 up here at the Subic Bay Yacht Club.  Tell me more of your plans so I can see how I can help you.  




    2. Caliente


      Thanks for writing !I have a significant other in Samar, met her a year ago- she has a nice house on the water and a farm. She also has family near Subic Bay and I know there is a nice yacht club there. I was thinking it would be a nice second home to have a J/35 in Subic and also to cruise at times, is the seven foot draft a problem for this?  

      You are very knowledgeable about the J/35. There are two nice examples one in Buffalo, NY which is 3  hours away, the other is in Green Bay, WI eight hours away. That one is owned by a lawyer, has a factory shower stall, and appears to be in great condition by photos. I'd like to buy one here and polish my sailing skills, I've lived on a Cal 34 for a year in the past but have only had powerboats recently. 

      I've been studying about the J/35 and I am very familiar with restoring sailboats, especially fiberglass repair which seems to be their biggest weakness with the deck penetrations into the balsa core and poor bedding of the deck hardware. Also the rudder bearings, and all of them have ancient diesels. I wonder how often one comes up for sale that has all of these items already resolved. 

      Anyway, I am encouraged that someone is already doing exactly what I want to be doing in the Philippines. It doesn't look good for international travel in 2021. 



  23. The hottest month in the Philippines is May, with an average high of 92. Please don’t go there, it is just awful
  24. When you can’t win an argument with your brain, just resort to name calling. Classy and intellectual! It’s pretty obvious who needs to get laid more around here and it isn’t me.
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