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  1. That is cool! Which one is your boat? I just grabbed all these off the net, because Sailing Anarchy does a lot better with URL's than uploads! *A belated thank-you to all the people providing images to this thread* And, here's a couple pictures of the missing Mystere 6.0 Aa for specs or history - it's a bit of a mystere ! I think my location in Santa Cruz during the Age of Giants meant that I saw a lot of West Coast manufactured cats: Hobies, NACRAs and Prindles, and not very much of anything else (except I do remember the Supercat 17, but they Su
  2. Stars and Stripes 1988. I think the C-class really developed the wing-sail up to the point that it could be used on Stars and Stripes.
  3. For beach cats, aside from foiling, which is obviously a breakthrough, has the beach cat really changed that much? I can see it both ways. Lots of small changes add up, but also it's not that different? I'd argue that there was more change between the Hobie 16 and the NACRA 5.2 than between the NACRA 5.2 and the NACRA Infusion. And how much difference is there really between the Infusion and the Evolution? The reverse wave piercing bows have made the boats look different, finally. Ye' olde banana boat: 1971 NACRA 5.2: 1975 The modern architecture establi
  4. I was looking at the revived Worrell 1000 site and I see that the race is being held using Formula 18 boats. That's a great choice, and those are some seriously advanced machines. It reminded me though of the excitement of the beach cat scene in the late 1980s and early 1990s when the Worrell was in full swing and the beach cat market was still much bigger in the USA, with several companies battling for the King of the Beach, and in typical American style - yes, size was a factor! Without further ado: When Monsters Ruled the Beach: the over 18' beach cats of the 1980s and 1990s.
  5. ooops! here is the link. The history of the boat name is pretty interesting, as is the boat itself. It's the first foiler to attempt the record. The Jules Verne Trophy has had two phases: the era of the giant cats which ended around 2010, and since then the trimarans have been the contenders. And now we may be on the verge of the age of foils. http://www.gitana-team.com/en/
  6. The Gitana 17 team is holding (beginning Nov 1) waiting for the weather report they like to set sail in their record attempt. Their web site has a countdown clock on it, and will be the place to monitor the attempt once it is underway. Anyone else keeping an eye on this?
  7. I subscribed to Multihulls Magazine for 10 years, so I remember the occasional proa showing up in there. I think Dick Newick designed one that someone built. The only one I have any familiarity with is the Hawaiian outrigger canoe. And that's mostly from watching the Hawaii Five Oh opening sequence. When they sail outrigger canoes the keep the ama (which is heavy, I know from messing around with the on the beach) always to leeward? And when they paddle it's always on the left (port)?
  8. I'm not sure the sail area comparisons in my little chart above are apples to apples. On some of the other articles about maxi-cats they list upwind and downwind sail area, when neither is specified one wonders which it is. Mast height is a decent proxy. It sees like the shorter (LOA) and wider tris are faster than then cats which have the same size mast. That's a rough generalization. Maybe their are material issues, but it seems like a 100' cat with a 75 or larger beam would be more competitive with the trimarans.
  9. Gitana 17 is awesome, and basically is using the same architecture as IDEC Sport, but adding foils. What an amazing machine. They are currently on standby for their round-the-world record attempt, waiting for the right weather to set sail. It's impressive that they seem to have a very small crew: only 5. So, while we are waiting for the first full foiling record, it's interesting to look back at all the progress made against this record in the last 30 years. The baton was passed from the cats to the tris in 2010. From 1993 to 2010 six boats held the record, five catamara
  10. Here is IDEC Sport, the current record-holder for crewed circumnavigation. (she's had a bunch of names). So has Playstation, and she was named Cheyenne when she set the 'round-the-world record. A comparison of two champion record setting boats - 15 years apart: Length Beam Displacement Mast Height Sail Area Crew Record Date IDEC 103' 74' 18 long tons 131' 8,910 sq ft 10
  11. Besides increasing the length and decreasing the beam on the MOD 70s they also decreased the sail area, decreased the length of the mast, and moved the mast further aft on the hull (per my quote from their website in OP). This is from 2013, and it's really awesome to see the entire fleet in a couple of the shots here.
  12. Thanks for this detailed answer. I'm really interested in this. Your use of the term "over-square" seems to suggest that there is an optimum ratio of length to beam for tris, and it's less than 1:1. I don't understand why an "over-square" tri would be more likely to pitchpole. Aren't the shape of the bows, the buoyancy of the bows and the front-to-rear weight (balance) of the boat the things that designers tweak to counter tendency to capsize? I get that making the bows longer helps prevent capsize. As I recall from the mega-cat era Playstation added 20 feet to the bows to figh
  13. The "Pure Multihull Porn from the mythic front page" thread and videoos were excellent and got me thinking about the evolution of these big boat classes The ORMA (Ocean Racing Multihiull Association) was a official racing rule propagated by the ISAF (now "World Sail") in 1996 and active until 2007. So, sort of like an oversized Formula 18. The MOD 70 (Multihull One Design) was created in 2009, and claimed to serve as the successor. These were already a very different thing (Development Rule class vs. One Design class). How successful were they? According to Wikipedia
  14. So, I'm introducing a fun topic to hold us over through the virus. What blue water boats do you favor for world cruising. A small crew, 2 to 4 or 5 people tops. I grew up lusting after boats like Pacific Seacraft, Valiant yachts, Hans Christians and that sort. But now we have X-yachts, Hallberg-Rassy, and more modern performance cruisers. So, while we wait out the plague, what's your fantasy 40-50 foot blue water yacht? Pictures encouraged!
  15. This thread needs more pictures! Here is the Antrim 40' tri. Aotea - a 40' trimaran for shorthanded ocean racing I grabbed these pics from Antrim Associates web page. Lovely boat. Anyone know what Peter Hogg is up to these days? These boats were built to smash records. They sound pretty Spartan: ACCOMODATION Private double berth with limited headroom located under cockpit. Berth access is from main cabin to starboard with optional hinged companionway steps for increased access. Wet seat and wet locker conveniently located by companionway. To port i
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