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  1. Armed with an IOR cert, if you laid the points down in section at the corresponding stations, it is almost hard to not come up with a reasonable facsimile of the lines plan - without it looking goofy. Some things like the stern tuck or transom detail you'd have to have photos or seen in person in order to get right, but on the whole the IOR cert was all you needed to get pretty darn close. I made a decent wood half model of the Ganbare 35 I sailed on years ago - just from the cert.
  2. I've never seen the under-the-companionway-ladder dinette before. It doesn't seem like a good arrangement. ^^ BTW, nice air bags. "Very forgiving" is a term I don't think I've seen applied to a Peterson 35 before. The under the companionway dinette is a feature also found on the New York 36. Some people like it. Owner seems to think he can make a quick buck I assume. Considering the 'Goon sold for about the same price in much better condition and decent sails.
  3. Shut the door!! He got a new boat? First pic looks like the same 4ksb, the second picture he is standing in front of a boat. Usually he would be draped in a 30" orange ring buoy which hides stuff like that. I think hobot was referring to the post implying Rimas has a J/24.
  4. .... I mentioned Neptune and some potential wrath,,,but I think someone else gets the 'glory' on that one I believe it was Norse Horse who came up with King Ineptune
  5. I guess they hadn't come up with the term "canting keel' at the time of the drawing, referring to it as "deep lead keel that swings sideways" Not the most practical design, but cool nonetheless.
  6. She was briefly mentioned some 3500 posts ago, but I will go with Fiery Cross - a Jim Young design recognized as the first canter which I think warrants the submission under cool boats. Built in the late 50's. Nice canoe stern. Quite similar to Herreshoff's Arion. I prefer Arions sheer and cabin, but I prefer the rounded hull sections of FC and the lack of hollow waterlines fore and aft as well as topside flare vs slight tumblehome on Arion. Plus the canting keel , which was subsequently banned. She was converted to a keeler, which I'm sure affected performance a lot since she
  7. I'm with Ish and bigrpwr on his one - looks more like an "accident' from pounding his way through Nat Geo.
  8. Anyone know anything other than Jean's comment and the following? 2014-12-04 I am very strong love adventure canadian expedition car pick up in the north west teritories so surprised i am travel on the foot took me years to cross canada 2014-11-19 To samoa island now only 777 miles to go. My dream it was always in adventures to cross canada on the foot i never forget that s so awesome and now crossing too 2014-10-05 Always it was a dream to travel and i discover all canada the most i like it quebec city and ottawa also impresive about lakes of yukon i never forget of people 201
  9. the thing is, his speed has always been that slow. always. And he left with a clean bottom. Okay - I thought I had solved one of life's great mysteries . Now I'm back to being perplexed again.
  10. I was a bit perplexed as well - but I had a mussel/barnacle farm sprout up under my boat in a couple of weeks one summer and I am pretty certain I didn't hit over 2-3 knots under full power. Just a guess since the knotmeter wasn't working - fouled for obvious reasons.
  11. Is Rimas trying to say he has passion for sea guys? Me? I prefer sea gals.
  12. Sounds to me like Rimas wants someone to e-mail batterys to the awaiting master harbor in Samoa. Should probably e-mail a spinniker while they're at it.
  13. He probably already has all that stuff, he just hasn't "found" it yet.
  14. I have often mused about this....I am 99.44% certain that nary a cotter pin has been inspected, shroud tension checked, turnbuckle adjusted, etc. etc. In his defence, he would have to know what those things are in order to inspect them.
  15. Sounds like Mr. Self-Sufficiency wasn't the one who provisioned the boat.
  16. There was an extremely nelected Cat 27 at Burrard a few years ago. Apparently the owner was a very old fellow who couldn't really sail any more - but he clung to the hope he might one day. On the bright side, a couple of years ago, he sold it to some young guys for $1. They hauled it out, fixed it up and had her sailing in a few months. Saw it out racing one day and couldn't believe it was the same boat. So miracles do happen.
  17. The answer to why other boats don't have them is that other boats are not designed to need them. The wings on this boat were a part of the overall design concept, which was to create a narrow and light boat (which has low drag, but little stability) and endow it with stability from the leverage of rail meat on the wings. There have been other boats designed around this concept such as the Moore 30 and Kiwi 35. By removing the wings, I think you will find the boat very tender, even with bodies stacked on the rail, due to the narrow beam. You may end up wanting to shorten the mast and sa
  18. I think YMT already cleared this up, but the Scaramouche which did Tranpac was not the S&S boat, it was a 40 something designed by none other than YMT. Completely different boats with the same name. I do not think the aluminum boat ever raced on the west coast-and certainly not during the time she was on top of her game (the 70's) There is some interesting speculation about who did the actual drawings and later went on to fame and fortune in his own right. I am guessing it may have been Frers.
  19. Yes its a rating thing, but that bow?? many others like that? Stephen Jones was fairly consistent with that bow, in some instances more extreme than others; Moon Dog & Boadicea both had a very pronounced kink in the stem profile whereas the Wings & the Supernova 31s (Smiffy etc) had more of a curved 'clipper' type. (The final Supernova 31 'Demolition' had the hollow filled in as she was built in '81 after the rule had changed) The exception at the time would be Xaviera in '77, perhaps because she was the prototype for the Hustler 32 production 1/2 tonner. Moody Frog may know
  20. I think that what Jones was doing was trying to get a bit longer waterline in relation to rated length. With the bow of a typical IOR boat, the FOC would intersect the waterline slightly forward of the bow stem. With Jones bow, imagine the kink is not there. The FOC would still intersect the waterline at the same place it would in a normal design. But below the kink, the bow extends forward, so the bow stem at the waterline is forward of FOC In theory, you should get additional unrated sailing length. I doubt if it worked that well in practise since you need volume as well as length in
  21. Yes, I recall a story about some of the Hustler 32s at the 78 Half Ton Worlds where they had to take a grinder to the skeg because it came out of the mold a touch too wide. This caused the rating to balloon well past the half ton level, so they thinned it out a bit to get the boats back to their designed rating. As a result they were ineligible for the production boat prize. You had to be very careful to make sure the skeg fell inside the 5% buttock line. I`m not sure why such drastic surgery was required for the C&C 38 unless it wasn`t designed properly to begin with. The Dream Mac
  22. I agree with “discontinuous curves”, but I doubt you would see “bumps” on the lines plan or loftings. I don’t know if I would consider Jones’ designs as outliers. Yes, his bow and stern treatments were unusual, but when you look at the ``meat and potatoes`` of his designs (i.e. sail area, displacement, mid-section shape, etc.) you would find them similar to most moderate displacement IOR boats of that era. A bit beamier though and some of his early designs had pronounced tumblehome, as did other designers at the time such as Mull. Why didn`t Peterson/Farr copy Jones. Obviously becau
  23. Hey Oystercatcher 79' - the first of the 27 Oyster SJ41's ever built... she is still sailing around (was for sale in Holland for quite some time. Nice boats... have one... Hi halfton, 41ft was pretty big for a One Tonner back then, from the photo above it would seem that Oystercatcher paid for length through some pretty aggressive bumping around the stern sections? and perhaps with a smaller sail plan? I've posted a feature and short history on Pendragon here - http://rbsailing.blo...avidson-34.html - an amazing boat, and thanks to P Mello for use of his great photos. It would b
  24. IIRC, in the seventies several IOR boats were experimenting with boron to stiffen the mast, and I'm wondering if it was boron rather than carbon that you are referring to. For some reason, I think that while IOR permitted some exotic materials like boron, carbon either was not allowed at that time or they hadn't made it into the form we know of today that is so readily usable on boats. Just curious. Carbon was allowed mid 70's under IOR...Williwaw had it glued to her untra light highly bendable spar....this pix is of "Ron Holland "Jacknife" carbon fiber tows hanging over the sheer awa
  25. IIRC, in the seventies several IOR boats were experimenting with boron to stiffen the mast, and I'm wondering if it was boron rather than carbon that you are referring to. For some reason, I think that while IOR permitted some exotic materials like boron, carbon either was not allowed at that time or they hadn't made it into the form we know of today that is so readily usable on boats. Just curious.
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