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  1. Did you get hit in the head on a jibe? I literally self-quoted last time you tried to paint me into this corner, to show you the several places where I said moorings should be legal, anchoring should be legal, etc. And in my most recent post, I was literally describing the precedent for anchoring being allowed. But you keep banging your nuance-proof drum: "he wants to ban moorings! He wants to ban anchoring!" I like a lot of your posts outside of this thread but this is getting tiresome.
  2. Well after all they did pay for it
  3. That's not actually how public lands work. Broadly speaking they are available to all for shared, temporary use, but to none for exclusive long-term use. Have you ever been camping? Have you heard of a national Forest or park? Clearly there are a few types of public lands where camping is not allowed - namely road rights-of-way and local/muni parks. But camping is explicitly allowed (even encouraged) on the vast majority of state and federal land.
  4. Actually what I said was: And: And: Ah´╗┐, Bainbridge, the nice place. Honestly, that sounds like a pretty good system´╗┐. I can simultaneously believe the current system (in the PNW) is flawed AND that in abstract, hogging a bay with buoys is a bit contrary to the spirit of public lands AND that in practice, the best idea is probably to improve upon the current system, rather than abolishing it. These beliefs are not mutually exclusive, even though they are in tension. What is so hard to grasp about that?
  5. This seems like a very good idea. Another good one
  6. Lmao that's obviously not what I'm saying but go off, King. If you want to mischaracterize what I'm saying and then ridicule the thing you're pretending I'm saying, that reflects on you not me. I've repeatedly clarified myself here, at length, but you keep on this 'so you want to BAN MOORING BUOYS HAHAHA OH MY GOD DID YOU HEAR THAT HE WANTS TO BAN ANCHORING' thing and cool, I guess. Do your thing.
  7. Obviously there's a balance. I can't say exactly what the perfect solution is, but given that this is an internet forum I sure as hell can complain about the problem ;-) Seriously though, it's not an easy question. But I can say that no, even if it is 'traditional', I don't think it makes sense to allow people to use public space for the long term storage of private property, beyond a certain point. See the earlier analogy about national forests. And I can say that yes, the photo you posted does represent a 'tragedy of the commons' situation. I think we have arrived at the eter
  8. The word is 'entitlement' I think this is pretty close to the 'blue sky' scenario. A well administered buoy/permit system would serve numerous goals and groups, and probably ultimately reduce zombie fleets by limiting the ability of private individuals (of the bum or wealthy variety) to use navigable waters as their personal long-term parking lots. Obviously, though, we're a long way from that being possible, in terms of either political sentiment in general or the capacity of the relevant administrative bodies in particular. Come on. I never said it was a crim
  9. Beat you to it. Actually by almost every metric Seattle is one of the best places to live in the nation. Clean air, beautiful mountains and wild areas that haven't been destroyed by sprawl and unregulated resource extraction, and one of the highest median incomes in the country, thanks to the skilled tech and manufacturing jobs we've attracted seemingly despite the policies you chide. Somehow I even made it to the grocery store today without being menaced by liberal thugs or having my taxes stolen by Obumgler and the DemonRats, nary a mobof antifa in sight. Must have been du
  10. Practice is often trickier than theory. Yours is a very friendly, rational approach, and good on you for it. You've set your ball on the edge of things - it could barely be argued it's even taking up a regular anchoring spot. Certainly not the way it would be if it were another 75 feet out. All of that said..... As benevolent as you're being in sharing the part of the bay you've staked out, you've still staked out a part of the bay. If everyone were as good as you about it - and especially if they left anchorage space the way you have - allowing such staking-out wouldn't be an
  11. Don't mind the common turd, they're a bit thick around here at times
  12. Mooring buoys are listed later in the document Do you have this marked on the buoy though - somehow indicating it's available? Because if you don't, that offer isn't good for much (no offense). Maybe one in a thousand cruisers might see a buoy and consider knocking on the door of the nearest waterfront home to ask if they can use it. For the other 999 it might as well be for your own personal use, since that's what everyone will assume and how they'll treat it.
  13. Yeah, you are a rebel. A true patriot freeholder citizen. Go get em tiger.
  14. Turns out marinas are fetid hell pits tho
  15. It's a chick thing, you wouldn't understand! Sorry couldn't resist. I mean, I think I could close the deal, if you could be genuinely open minded about it. But it appears you're pretty set in your thinking, and I don't really feel like arguing with someone just for the sake of it. Plus, from a distance it looks like you're riding a strain of either small government traditional conservative thinking or libertarian/tea party/independent-conservative thinking, with conspiratorial elements thrown in - so I'm guessing that beyond being used to/set in your thinking, you're also emot
  16. Yeah the media company owners, they're the ones pulling the strings. The cabal! The Rothschilds! Q!
  17. Thought of an example from recently: Doe Bay, and the associated bight just south of it, behind Doe Island. What could be a pair of lovely little nooks with space for 2-3 boats to swing on anchor are instead parking lots for the water toys of the various rich fellas who live on the adjacent shore, to the point where at least in Doe Bay there's not a single remaining spot to anchor (unless you did some sort of medievally complicated Bahamian Moor or stern tie over a long sand beach into someone's yard). In the little bight just south there might be space for one tenuous hook, but that
  18. There's rules and then there's reality. In WA you need a permit, but property owners can get them pretty directly, and others without too much more trouble I think. And of course, if you've got a buddy who dives, or a boat with a big enough pick to yard a 350 small block over the side with a chain around it, you can just 'go for it' - which I think in practice ends up happening... maybe a quarter of the time?
  19. Fair wind and following seas, Marv. Sounds like you were a man who met the challenge of living a life to its fullest, as only one driven by a love of the world can.
  20. Interesting indeed. Well, I will look it up but sounds like not something to be worth stripping and redoing, since it's already done. But I will keep that in mind next time I do heavier-duty stripping, and am trying to talk myself out of more hours behind the sander. It must have been growth that slowed me down before. I kept the hull pretty scrubbed but had a good handful of hard stuff on the very middle of the bottom of the keel (hard to reach with just a mask). In future I'll take a few extra breaths and try to reach it.
  21. Ah, Bainbridge, the nice place. Honestly, that sounds like a pretty good system. In the rest of the sound though it would seem theory varies from practice by a fair bit.
  22. Interesting about Maine. Our tidal range runs ~13 feet, but maybe the geography is more permissive of Marinas here. And alas, in the weeds is where you end up, sometimes, if you try to figure the right and wrong of things. I only hope one day they'll unearth these writings and we'll assume our place in the pantheon of philosophers: piroclese, demosthenes, breamerly and kent-island-guy.
  23. Obviously we're getting into ambiguous territory. The majority of balls I see are empty. Even many of the actively used ones are empty a good chunk of the off season, and I'd bet sit empty a numerical majority of the day of the year If we go with your logic, are we also condemning people who pull their boats in winter, but leave their mooring? If not, why is storing it off-mooring okay on land, but not on water (if having a morning and a slip isn't okay)? And by that logic, why is it okay to leave your mooring sitting taking up space while you're out cruising for a month, but not while yo
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