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    Centerboard aluminium singlehanded go anywhere

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  1. Hi! Welcome aboard the chase! I talked to Ed also, and although his designs stand out same like you I'm not into a new build. The market is very thin when it comes to the kind of boat we look for, but there has recently been a new one entering the market. It's a bit above my size and exceeds my requirements, but it may be of interest to you. It would definitely serve your purpose! https://nl.yachtworld.com/boten/2003/Custom-chatam-60-3215232/country.frankrijk
  2. Steve! is it safe to say that your experience with the Boreal has spoiled your interest in other likewise competent vessels? If not, or if you still have some valuable information on other boats from before you purchased the Boreal, it would be very much appreciated. The Boreal has already sold itself to me, but it sure is reassuring to read a hands on evaluation of somebody who has much more experience on the subject than myself. That greatly enhances the value i put on your opinion on other boats (still) out there. So please feel free to chip in!!!
  3. Hi Steve, nice of you to drop by! I think your Boreal has been the only one to hit the pre-owned market these last couple of years!? It sure says a lot about the boats. And yes I am not too far away from the Boreal yard and yes a visit is in my planning. From my research I had already gathered as much about the yard and the owners' attitudes as you so well describe. I am quite exited about the Boreal design and although in particular the Ed Joy designed 'Seal' has some preference over the Boreal design for me personally, the only drawback I see is the whole process of building a new boat. The
  4. Has it been commissioned by someone or still on the drawboard?
  5. yeah, even that goddess must have told the guy - pleeease sell it. not even a year in the wet up for sale. something seriously wrong with that boat for sure. But I bet some flaky hippie in the old world will think of it as "the next best thing" and scoop her up. at a steal for only half a million whahahaha (maybe I should have posted this one in the uglyboat admiration threat instead? I guess it qualifies for both!)
  6. where is it? would like to witness that abortion ;-)
  7. I can not think of a cooler boat to post on this thread: http://nl.yachtworld.com/boten/2016/Mithral-Marine-Tribrid-RD-24-2998224/country.indonesiƫ#.WhHQwkrtyUk dig that!
  8. By looking at the way the guy is sitting leaning into his railing it doesn't appear to have worked out very well for the Garcia helm position. Pretty uncomfortable looking to me. Imagine having to sit like that all the time. And what if you're not as tall as the average European bloke, eh? What if you're an averaged sized Bolivian or Indonesian male, eh? Then you're about 5 ft 3 inches tall. And his averaged sized wife is only 4 ft 8 inches!! Good luck with that, standing up and looking over the shed. And when you're sitting under the protection of the doghouse, you cant look any way but
  9. this picture shows the props design of the JPB 52 better
  10. for comparison the two pilothouses of the Garcia exploration 45 and Cordova40: The garcia has the plus there is the sheltered outside area which the Cordova lacks. But I guess my biggest objection to the Garcia design is not the out of the ordinary shape the pilothouse has, but the fact that when you are in the cockpit you cannot see THROUGH the pilothouse. I wonder why they did such a big concession in their design? You would always have to look over or besides the superstructure like the guy is doing in pic3. When you look at the Cordova, Boreal Futuna, Seal and most of the others, wind
  11. In checking out the designs of the JPB52 mentioned above I found another shipyard (normandy yacht services) that builts boats under the name Cordova. A 40ft has been completed, and on the site there are also designs of a 45 ft version. http://normandy-ys.fr/ below pics of the 40ft version. I like the pilothouse, and compared to the Carcia eploration I like the traditional design of this boat better. I do wonder how the space below deck turns out, because on a 40ft the leftover space whilst incorporating the decksaloon/pilothouse must be quite small
  12. Thanks! I had not come across that yet. Interesting to see how they seem to have incorporated 2 engines and props in the design. Like you say quite light on details. They also built a 47 footer, Metapado 47 (2nd pic)
  13. i had not seen one under sail, but yes, you are right! What the heck is going on with those sails eh? it;s another point I would add to my 'dislike' list of this design, here my earlier comment on this boat under another thread that is about 'go anywhere': "For me the long and the short of it is that for my personal taste the design fails to be innovative enough, it hangs on to the old school designs, and has a strange mix of new/old I really don't dig. Nowhere any commitment to be found; -the hull takes a modern twist at the bow, but remains rooted in nostalgia at the stern.
  14. I came across a Patago 50, which has another solution for a lifting keel going through the hull all the way up to the deck. I guess this design minimizes the possibility of leakage underwater, but if you hit anything? The seal and Futuna are designed so it will swing up in such an unlucky event. And it doesn't look like this particular design will sit on its hull.
  15. hahaha it's like you are describing how to make an origami. .. I have seen the combination before, but have no personal experience to judge the difference between the designs. I can imagine the combination would improve capability to sail closer to the wind than the solution in the bottom left picture
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