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    Sailing, woodworking, freediving, building wooden boats.

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  1. I built my first dinghy from a set of Richard Woods's plans, very clear and easy to follow, I've had a ton of fun in the boat too he was easy to get in touch with via e-mail and very helpful
  2. I hadn't realized it was a problem, there have been asymmetrical proas built, not so much lately though, I suspect that any gain isn't worth the lost displacement, better to put a big lee/dagger board in the middle of the ama and then you have as much lateral resistance as you need when you need it without having to worry about tripping over it and capsizing.
  3. I really don't get why folks are so confounded by shunting, for me it's great because it's laid back, at any point I can drop the sheets and the boat will drift to a stop ama to windward and the rig luffing off to the lee, when I'm ready to go I can pick up one sheet or the other and take off in either direction, handy when you overshoot your crab pot if I'm headed into trouble a one eighty is as easy as dropping one sheet and grabbing the other. I sail to go freediving/fishing/crabbing/beachcombing/camping so an adverse current + headwind = the perfect opportunity/excuse to do more free
  4. makes sense, Jzerro does look a bit like a particularly sporty spaceship and an incredibly slender sloop got together and had a lovechild
  5. Thanks everybody I'm interested in all pacific/atlantic proa plans, unfortunately my "Perfect Proa" hasn't been built yet although I'm waiting for those Bieker proas to hit the water with bated breath, those boats are going to be amazing. I'm mainly interested in ideas to incorporate into a design, even the least likely seeming set of plans might have something I can use. I did get a kick out of the "Uncapsizable" claim, give me 10 knots of wind and 30 seconds I could turtle that boat no problem I might have bought a set of their plans though if they weren't using other desig
  6. here's a video of a pacific proa sailing on it's lee pod for a couple minutes. not sure I agree with the comentary, but if you were wondering if lee pods work...
  7. Hi All I'm looking for Pacific Proa plans, preferably in wood, from 24'-40', I'm interested in composite builds too if only for ideas. I'm also interested in Atlantic Proa plans in the same length. at the moment I have plans for Mbuli and Madness as well as Gary Dierking's book on building outrigger canoes, Bolgers "Folding Schooner and Other Adventures" which has a 40' proa is in the mail. Any links to pacific/atlantic proa plans you can share would be greatly appreciated. 2b
  8. @SeaGul If you're that interested for less than $1000 USD you could buy Gary Dierkings book "Building Outrigger Sailing Canoes" and all the materials to build a quick and dirty Wa'apa and try all the possible proa/tri combinations yourself, it's such a simple build I had my 16 footer three-d in one weekend, you could probably build the 24 footer for about $150 US more.
  9. now there's some beam failure, odd that it's the aft beam, I would have expected the forward beam to take the most stress.
  10. other than a stabilized monohull like Akka I don't really see the point in tacking outriggers, they have to be overpowered on one tack or underpowered on the other, or both. if you're going to tack then cats and tri's do a much better job, weight saving is minimal since you have to make most of a full set of beams for both sides, and once you add in a safety ama you've got an odd looking trimaran that weighs just as much and is much less efficient. The Vaa motu is a really gorgeous boat, I'd love to go for a ride on it, heck, I'd like to build one but I don't see how it does a
  11. checkout tackingoutrigger.com there are plenty of boats similar to the ninja right up to about 40'
  12. it's a great idea, in a beach boat that can be righted by one guy, when, not if, it capsizes.
  13. most things more doable if you throw a quarter mil at them...
  14. the weight becomes fairly significant when you compare the tris two sets of beams that each has to carry 2/3s or more of the boats weight to the proas one set of beams that only have to carry 1/6th of the boats total weight... then consider that the tri's amas will weigh at least 4 times as much as the proas ama, and we haven't even mentioned the extra structure in all 3 of the tris hulls needed to carry 2/3s of the boats weight as opposed to the proas 1/6th of the boat in two hulls. Again, it has absolutely nothing to do with beam failure, that's simply not a consideration for a pac
  15. sigh, it's not about beam failure, pacific proas don't sail on the crossbeams like tris do, it's about reduced beam loads which let you have lighter beams and lighter scantlings in the hulls to carry those beams, which lets you have a smaller rig because it's pushing less parasitic weight which let you have lighter beams to carry the rig, it's a spiral, where you get off is up to you. Look at it this way, over half a trimaran exists only to keep the rest of the boat from falling over, on a pacific proa it's about 15% of the boat that exists for the sole purpose of keeping the rest of the
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