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  1. Good information from those who posted above. For many years there was a "circuit" of sorts here for beer cans. Wednesdays at Keehi, (Sand Island), Thursdays, at Kaneohe YC, and Fridays at the Alai Wai, both HYC and Waikiki YC. Your best bet will be to hang out around the piers at the Ala Wai on a Friday, late afternoon, but I'd recommend at least a cold pack vs. a six'er. COVID has changed things. La Marianas closed and is still closed and I don't know if it will re-open, for Keehi that's where most would meet, greet & eat but that was generally after the race anyways, (boy do I miss
  2. Yeah or Maybe, Yeaahh, Quahaugs, Little Necks, Mussels, Soft Shelled Crabs, Razorbacks,.. Did I mention Mussels? The Calamari State?? If I was just passing through, maybe an assortment but that contradicts specialties doesn't it? If the weather is not co-operating, why not stop and taste the seafood? After all the cannery is not there anyhow, blue collar side, no pretenses, good food, good company, = good times. Last Time I was In NY, Hurricane Floyd Hit...., Kinda,... I told my now wife, I'm going to buy everyone (in the bar across the street from our hotel a drink, ((when the power was
  3. If you decide to take the LIS ride down and have the chance to pull into a spot at the entrance to Seven Mile Pond, or whatever they call it now, by Point Judith in Rhode Island/Blue Collar side of Narragansett Bay, there is, or at least according to Google Maps, still is, a restaurant named "Little George's", great chowder and one of RI's specialties, "Clam Cakes". If they are still willing, order the chowder the way my dad used to....."clear". While you are there,... If you can pick up a box of "Jonny Cakes" for breakfast, well,.....Definitely an acquired taste especially if you're expectin
  4. As mentioned above it must be a centerboarder - draws only 5.7" for a 54 footer. From what I learned from my earlier post there were at least two keel types, one a longish fairly shallow keel with a centerboard, and another, more like a 12 meter of the period with a much deeper keel with a "trim tab" at the back of the lower part of the keel. The "trim tab" was larger than many rudders I have seen and you could tack the boat with it. Silversword had the deeper keel version and I would guess its draft was well over 6'. It pretty much maxed out the Travel Lift at Ala Wai Marine and dwarfed
  5. Sure looks like a Morgan 54 to me. My 1st post in SA was trying to locate a Morgan 54' "Silverswoard" I crewed on for day sails in the early 90's. SLB & S4B, GRS, and a few others gave me great feedback but I never did locate the boat, (last I knew it was on its way to Thailand with a different name). I don't care what anyone says about that design but, it was pretty, had a beautiful sheer line, short handsome house & Big Mo. Cracked off, or on a reach the boat was a machine. For us we needed 4 + the owner/skipper to sail her, however the guy who bought her, sailed her single handed fr
  6. Thank you all!! I've heard surfing and planing, thrown around for a long time, big grey area for me, and I figured if anybody had or knew of actual/measurable, distinction between the two, you or they they might be here. I guess it's like porn,.. You can't really define it,...But, you know it when you see it!! Thanks Again for all your responses.
  7. I know it is 2' longer than the OP's desired size range, but how about the Colgate 26? Easy to rig and launch, massive cockpit, stiff but also forgiving to sail, I don't know about planing, but it's no slouch, heck it's a training boat!! Also well built (from what I understand).
  8. Sooo... We now get to throw swell into the mix. Unless I missed any earlier posts, most of us have been relating our past experiences, mathematical knowledge, formulas & whatnot. There have been references to three dimensional thought, however many of us are thinking in two dimensional terms, flatwater or implied one directional swells that rarely exist in open/larger waters. If we consider multiple underlying swell directions, size, and make note of tides and currents,.... Bingo!! (Rise & Fall). we bring at least a significant element of gravity into play. I'm interested in wha
  9. One of the most noticeable differences between "surfing" on a surfboard, body board or body surfing at a surf break and, surfing on a boat on open water swells, (uh-oh swell vs. wave discussion forthcoming), is the shape and length of the wave/swell. Unless it is a sandy bottom you generally find the peak where the wave starts to break due to the shape and depth of the bottom and you catch the wave where and when the face steepens, There is a sweet spot where the swell changes from rolling underneath you and not actually moving the water to breaking and becoming a moving mass of water, this s
  10. Thank you all for the clear and concise responses. They allow me to hone in and clarify my inquiry. Obviously dinghies & multi-hulls have different parameters for "surfing vs. planing", and to muddy the water, (sorry for the pun), there is now so much development in lifting foils, T-foils, hull shape and stability that our very basis for what is "hull speed" may not be so clear anymore. Good possibility I am wrong but I believe in the era of the age of sail up to and including the clipper ships, hull speed was determined to be the square of the weighted waterline length, as the twentieth c
  11. How do you separate surfing vs. plaining? Over here the ocean swell runs at approximately ~ 14 knots. In blue water you hear that number often. To me, if your boat speed/swell speed is similar, you are "surfing". When you start launching into the backs of waves in front of you, you are "getting on the step". My Moore definitely lights it up downwind, to the speed of the swell, even under reduced plain sail, but in flat water bursts up to wind speed are great and fun, but short lived... Where do you guys make the distinction??
  12. WoW!! The information on this thread is amazing and fun and let's not forget the best part, it's not about explaining the realities of a dream to some numbnut, It's fun because someone (you), more knowledgeable than many, is asking experienced and qualified sailors if this dream that rings a bell with many of us,... If you give up on a it now, will you ever?!! Personally I like the "idea" of the Santa Cruz 50', it's not a Big 50 footer. There is at least one here in the 808 and she regularly does the transpac, and is well maintained, when hauled out on the hard, she is most impressive with h
  13. "Reality is a bitch and then you die." Everything is a bitch; your life, your wife, & you die...
  14. This thread drift keeps reminding me more and more of the vessel used in "The Guns of Navarrone" film (1961). As a kid, I wondered why the commandos didn't choose the beautiful sailing yacht for their mission, as an old fart, I wonder why the yacht was even considered, ahhh Hollywood..... Of course, the story was set in the Aegean Sea and.......
  15. And all you IOR studs were still doing bowman on the beasties!!!!
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